What can Nintendo do to fix the Wii U?

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#1  Edited By Jakandsigz
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I mean actually right now. It has done quite poorly, but advertising the Wii u as differet form the Wii is not exactly working, they seem to purposefully gave up on third-party which they WERE doing the first few months which is rather strange, and they are not puttng any DS connectivity or 3DS with it.

What's left? Another Price cut? That may work but they actually cut the price of bundles of popular games and that did not seem to work. It got a bit of a boost in japan recently but that was during the holiday weeks.

Some people will say name change but that would alienate some fas already, it already has a few million world wide.

Replacing the console with a new one could be quite a bad decision. Buybacks and lack of any money coming it, with tons of money down the drain.

WAIT, they could..

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RE INTRODUCE the Wii U. Maybe add a slight cosmetic change (even just the logo would be good), and advertise it almost like it;s brand new. Maybe throw some heavy money on advertising. And then throw in comparisons of how the Wii U has ore games and guise it as more support.

Offer it with maybe two games for the family and another bundle with two games toward a older audience. I mean it worked for Sega.

Also free downloads for Wii U sports and Wii u fit with each bundle. eh eh? Then you get at least half the people you brought both. Would sell maybe 10 million through the year. Maybe takes some sales from Ouya and throw in some android games in the market place.

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#2 LegatoSkyheart
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Well, they could start bringing in new features for WiiU, but so far it's just baby steps. Maybe once Mario Kart shows up things will get rolling.

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Great games take time. Although I do wish they announced these and started working before it was announced...

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#4  Edited By Sword-Demon
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release more games.

that's really all they need

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1.Keep making high quality games.

2.Make a proper unified account system and put all your classic games on there.

3.Stop with the anti-consumer tactics, stop region locking everything and offer price protection to retailers so your games dont stay at full price for 3 years.

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#6  Edited By LegatoSkyheart
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@Sword-Demon said:

release more games.

that's really all they need

Yeah, but that's a bit of the problem.

We can't rely on Nintendo all the time to Release games whenever they please because their games take time to develop. So that's why we depend on 3rd Party to fill in the gaps. Problem is 3rd Party games also take time to develop so there's the wait on that as well and sometimes 3rd Party developers just don't see WiiU a viable option and opt to skip out on the system and then the system gets nothing so we turn to indie games which are few and far between and some of the heavy hitting indie titles also take time to develop so you're in this sudden limbo of wait that short of turns you off from the system in which you just bought and the only game you'll be playing is of the waiting variety.

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@crimsonman1245 said:

1.Keep making high quality games.

2.Make a proper unified account system and put all your classic games on there.

3.Stop with the anti-consumer tactics, stop region locking everything and offer price protection to retailers so your games dont stay at full price for 3 years.

Good ideas. I also think they should do strict family fun and children. They seem to be trying to get more serious with tapping into CoD territory and so on and it just isn't them IMO. On the other hand Sony and MS have tried to venture into the Wii zone and take some of the market the other way.

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@LegatoSkyheart said:

@Sword-Demon said:

release more games.

that's really all they need

Yeah, but that's a bit of the problem.

We can't rely on Nintendo all the time to Release games whenever they please because their games take time to develop. So that's why we depend on 3rd Party to fill in the gaps. Problem is 3rd Party games also take time to develop so there's the wait on that as well and sometimes 3rd Party developers just don't see WiiU a viable option and opt to skip out on the system and then the system gets nothing so we turn to indie games which are few and far between and some of the heavy hitting indie titles also take time to develop so you're in this sudden limbo of wait that short of turns you off from the system in which you just bought and the only game you'll be playing is of the waiting variety.

It's not even that, the Gamecube had them begging and making exclusive Third-party deals that got some attention, they skipped third party after the first 2 months, especially western and don't even have that.

The Gamecube was considered a point of no return for a bit at nintendo to the point of Iwata coming in and even him saying the Wii did not outsell the gamecube they would move out the business, this is selling worse and losing 4x the money.

hey need to market better, they worked on certain things to make the Wii a success (can't find the interview) where they announced their plans to change to ake the Wii a success, the funny thing is they dropped those ideas for the Wii u.

They need games, market, some appeal, to get support, to get players to be interested, and to not make false promises etc.

Wii U seems to have the same problems another company did in 1993.....

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#10  Edited By DarthaPerkinjan
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#1 Introduce a new model priced at $199. Make it 4GBs, with perhaps a dumbed down tablet controller with a smaller screen or something. Get the price of this thing lower as fast as possible

#2 Open an online Network like the PSN or Xbox Live. Make all future games online compatible

#3 Release WAY more classic games on the eshop. At the moment the selection is embarrassing. All the best gamecube and Wii games need to be available digitally.

That's about all they can do. 3rd party is dead and buried for them so no use in going after that because nothing will fix their biggest issue which is lack of hardware power.

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#11  Edited By dbtbandit67
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The Skylanders bundle sold very well. It's targeted towards kids, a key demographic for them. It's a family game. Perhaps they can spend more money advertising it.

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#13  Edited By LegatoSkyheart
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@Jakandsigz said:

@LegatoSkyheart said:

@Sword-Demon said:

release more games.

that's really all they need

Yeah, but that's a bit of the problem.

We can't rely on Nintendo all the time to Release games whenever they please because their games take time to develop. So that's why we depend on 3rd Party to fill in the gaps. Problem is 3rd Party games also take time to develop so there's the wait on that as well and sometimes 3rd Party developers just don't see WiiU a viable option and opt to skip out on the system and then the system gets nothing so we turn to indie games which are few and far between and some of the heavy hitting indie titles also take time to develop so you're in this sudden limbo of wait that short of turns you off from the system in which you just bought and the only game you'll be playing is of the waiting variety.

It's not even that, the Gamecube had them begging and making exclusive Third-party deals that got some attention, they skipped third party after the first 2 months, especially western and don't even have that.

The Gamecube was considered a point of no return for a bit at nintendo to the point of Iwata coming in and even him saying the Wii did not outsell the gamecube they would move out the business, this is selling worse and losing 4x the money.

hey need to market better, they worked on certain things to make the Wii a success (can't find the interview) where they announced their plans to change to ake the Wii a success, the funny thing is they dropped those ideas for the Wii u.

They need games, market, some appeal, to get support, to get players to be interested, and to not make false promises etc.

Wii U seems to have the same problems another company did in 1993.....

But that in itself is a problem with the WiiU.

With it's current state the Market doesn't care for the system and the Games all depend on the Publishers and Developers and WiiU is getting pretty much No support from every 3rd Party Publisher and Developer, and thanks to that Players won't be interested and it makes Nintendo Liars from their Promises.

Nintendo is pretty much in a space they were in with the Gamecube except worse.

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#14  Edited By EZs
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Why fix something that isn't broken?

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1. Continue to make great first party games including Zelda and Metroid.

2. Partner with 3rd party devs and publishers to make exclusive games. Imagine partnering with EA to make a good Star Wars game, or working with Bethesda to bring an exclusive Elder Scrolls game to Nintendo,

3. Court indies to make exclusives

4. Create new IPs for a new generation of gamers.

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Pull their heads out of their asses. But aside from that.....

1) Unify accounts so wiiu and 3ds purchases are under one user account.

2) Make online usage for gaming actually user friendly and well done. Just copy what sony and Microsoft and the PC have done instead of that mangled mess they call online.

3) Kiss some 3rd party ass and get them onboard instead of just ignoring them.

4) Ditch the tablet. Failing that put a battery (no, selling a separate one doesn't cut it) that will last more than 5 hours, make the interface not feel like its from 2001, give it multi touch input, and find a way to actually make it worthwhile instead of just putting a map on it, drawing a shape instead of just pushing a button, and honking a horn.

5) Make an actual fucking game that isn't the 514th franchise jerkoff sequel, spinoff, re-release, or remake. Try something original and new.

6) Stop trying to use gimmicks like motion controls, tablet controllers and 3d to sell your stuff. Id like Nintendo to actually make a new system instead of just taking the previous one and throwing a tiny hardware upgrade on it and slapping on a gimmick.

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#17  Edited By KBFloYd
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advertise mario kart to the heavens... mario kart is loved by casuals because of the wii wheel and even hardcores love this game....it has a chance to be the best selling wiiU game... maybe release a mario 3d world bundle along side it to tempt people as well....

for japan....release monster hunter 4 HD edition on wiiU....and release hyrule warriors before july.

europe? ...tsss forget it...thats sony land....but hey, im sure they love mario kart and smash bros...everyone does.

basically...spend more on advertising. get mcdonalds 7-11 ampm...get everyone on board. and just release the games and keep advertising.

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re introducing it sounds like a good idea just as long as there more games too. The DS didn't start flying off the shelves until the ds lite came out and new super mario bros came out. They can't really do anything with the specs and the wii u is already slim so I don't know what they would do though.

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It's unfixable. The best they can do is put some duct tape on it and ride it out for the next 4 years and pray they can sell more than 20 million of them. They should just re-hash the same games like they always have and start early on making a great console for next gen.

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they killed it by excluding the wii mote,

they de-emphasised its importance because at the time, it was saddled with ancient hardware.....

I said it before and I will say it again,

the wii remote was not a novelty or a gimmick, it could've been much more,

but the risk was too great for devs to sink its time into,

its stride would've been this generation but nope,

they have to release the leap pad with Mario on it.......

I think a reboot is In order, but retain backwards compatibility with both wii u and wii games....

the focus and willingness to be adventurous would rest on 3rd parties this time around....

a rockstar wii u game?

Bethesda maybe?

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@killatwill15 said:

they killed it by excluding the wii mote,

they de-emphasised its importance because at the time, it was saddled with ancient hardware.....

I said it before and I will say it again,

the wii remote was not a novelty or a gimmick, it could've been much more,

but the risk was too great for devs to sink its time into,

its stride would've been this generation but nope,

they have to release the leap pad with Mario on it.......

I think a reboot is In order, but retain backwards compatibility with both wii u and wii games....

the focus and willingness to be adventurous would rest on 3rd parties this time around....

a rockstar wii u game?

Bethesda maybe?

They didn't exclude the Wiimote though, It's still a main controller type used in many WiiU games. It just has to be Wiimotion plus now and it's not bundled with the console.

and GTA V and Skyrim or even Fallout could do wonders with the WiiU gamepad, but it's one thing to think of stuff to use on the system and it's another to convince developers there's an audience for the system.

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#22  Edited By killatwill15
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@LegatoSkyheart said:

@killatwill15 said:

they killed it by excluding the wii mote,

they de-emphasised its importance because at the time, it was saddled with ancient hardware.....

I said it before and I will say it again,

the wii remote was not a novelty or a gimmick, it could've been much more,

but the risk was too great for devs to sink its time into,

its stride would've been this generation but nope,

they have to release the leap pad with Mario on it.......

I think a reboot is In order, but retain backwards compatibility with both wii u and wii games....

the focus and willingness to be adventurous would rest on 3rd parties this time around....

a rockstar wii u game?

Bethesda maybe?

They didn't exclude the Wiimote though, It's still a main controller type used in many WiiU games. It just has to be Wiimotion plus now and it's not bundled with the console.

and GTA V and Skyrim or even Fallout could do wonders with the WiiU gamepad, but it's one thing to think of stuff to use on the system and it's another to convince developers there's an audience for the system.

it is excluded when every game requires the gamepad,

can you play batman arkham origins with the wii mote?

assassins creed 4 or splinter cell?

Nintendo got caught in the "gimmick" fake out,

they believed people when they said the wii remote was a gimmick,

so they drew up plans for a new one....the fuckers,

them doing that is like they invented the wheel,

but thought "nah, a square will slide easier"

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#23  Edited By no-scope-AK47
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This is what should be done but won't be done.

1. Get rid of that tablet controller it cost too much and add very little ie it is a shit value

2. Hard drive inside the box 500GB so 3rd party devs and gamers have space

3. Upgrade the online gaming ASAP it sucks

4. Get games from andriod,indie or pc or 3rd parties yesterday

5. Marketing Marketing and more Marketing increase brand awareness and give a clear message on the future of the brand.

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#24  Edited By MirkoS77
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I could name many specifics that could potentially help them, but believe that all of their problems stem directly from poor business acumen and overall general philosophy. Nintendo is a company stuck in its ways and is unable to keep up with the times. I don't believe we'll see any significant changes until Iwata and Miyamoto retire (or are demoted), and the BoDs leave to be replaced by people who aren't stuck in the 80s-90s. It's quite obvious at this point that Nintendo's problem are deeply rooted.

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@LegatoSkyheart said:

@Jakandsigz said:

@LegatoSkyheart said:

@Sword-Demon said:

release more games.

that's really all they need

Yeah, but that's a bit of the problem.

We can't rely on Nintendo all the time to Release games whenever they please because their games take time to develop. So that's why we depend on 3rd Party to fill in the gaps. Problem is 3rd Party games also take time to develop so there's the wait on that as well and sometimes 3rd Party developers just don't see WiiU a viable option and opt to skip out on the system and then the system gets nothing so we turn to indie games which are few and far between and some of the heavy hitting indie titles also take time to develop so you're in this sudden limbo of wait that short of turns you off from the system in which you just bought and the only game you'll be playing is of the waiting variety.

It's not even that, the Gamecube had them begging and making exclusive Third-party deals that got some attention, they skipped third party after the first 2 months, especially western and don't even have that.

The Gamecube was considered a point of no return for a bit at nintendo to the point of Iwata coming in and even him saying the Wii did not outsell the gamecube they would move out the business, this is selling worse and losing 4x the money.

hey need to market better, they worked on certain things to make the Wii a success (can't find the interview) where they announced their plans to change to ake the Wii a success, the funny thing is they dropped those ideas for the Wii u.

They need games, market, some appeal, to get support, to get players to be interested, and to not make false promises etc.

Wii U seems to have the same problems another company did in 1993.....

But that in itself is a problem with the WiiU.

With it's current state the Market doesn't care for the system and the Games all depend on the Publishers and Developers and WiiU is getting pretty much No support from every 3rd Party Publisher and Developer, and thanks to that Players won't be interested and it makes Nintendo Liars from their Promises.

Nintendo is pretty much in a space they were in with the Gamecube except worse.

They got SOME devs to put games on the Gamecube, even convinced EA for a bit.

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Think maybe call customer service

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#27  Edited By thegroveman
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Allow the 3DS to be paired to the console and be used in lieu of the GamePad, and then sell a SKU with a 3DS and Wii U for $299, or a Wii U without GamePad for $199

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#28  Edited By starwolf474
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1. Advertise more. I've seen more advertising for the Xbox One and PS4 in the past few weeks than I have ever seen for the Wii U in the entire year that it has been out.

2. Release a 3DS Player for the Wii U like the old GameBoy Player that lets you play 3DS and DS games on your TV with the Wii U.

3. Do a better job with the Virtual Console. I think that the Virtual Console was one of the Wii's biggest selling points, but it has been handled poorly on the Wii U. They are just re-releasing the same games that were already released on the Wii's Virtual Console but at a much slower pace. They need to start releasing at least 3 Virtual Console games a week and release games for systems that were not already released on the Wii such as GameCube, DreamCast, and GBA.

3. Improve their online service and actually support it by having all of their first party multiplayer games be playable online.

4. Start packing the Pro Controller with the Wii U instead of the tablet controller. The tablet controller has proven to be a flop with little appeal and removing it as a pack-in with the Wii U will allow them to lower the price of the console to a more appealing price point. They can still sell the tablet controller as a separate peripheral for the people that want it.

5. Buy-up a major developer like Sega or Capcom. Nobody is going to buy 3rd party games on the Wii U when they can get a better version on Xbox or PS4, so Nintendo needs a new RARE to fill in the gaps between the major Nintendo franchise releases like RARE did on the N64. If Nintendo had a company like Sega or Capcom exclusive to Wii U, there would be less game droughts and it would also bring many more popular franchises exclusively to Wii U.

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#29  Edited By Jakandsigz
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Packing the pro controller with the console instead of the pad would be a financial issue. Maybe as a separate option.

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Oh the Wii U will be getting it's amazing games alright. 2014 will be an onslaught if anything.

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#31 thegroveman
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@starwolf474 said:

4. Start packing the Pro Controller with the Wii U instead of the tablet controller. The tablet controller has proven to be a flop with little appeal and removing it as a pack-in with the Wii U will allow them to lower the price of the console to a more appealing price point. They can still sell the tablet controller as a separate peripheral for the people that want it.

Have to disagree with you here. The GamePad and off-TV play are a pretty big selling point to the console. Just because it's not being used as a true second screen experience in a lot of games doesn't mean it's useless.

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#32  Edited By Lucianu
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Aggressive marketing. Show off the system, the games, the upcoming games, the features in a balls out powerful marketing campaign, not only on the internet, but outside of it aswell. Pour sweat and effort into it like never before and let it be known to the entire world that the WiiU exists and has good games.

I don't work there so i can't say it would work and there must be a reason why they haven't done so yet (the company is 124 years old, that is a miracle, and a testament to the strength and adaptability of it) but i sure as **** am going to assume that it might.

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#33  Edited By good_sk8er7
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@DarthaPerkinjan said:
#2 Open an online Network like the PSN or Xbox Live. Make all future games online compatible

Why the hell should they make all games online? The only games people want to play online are COD and BF.

Also, I agree with bringing in more virtual console titles. I'll buy them up :) But that's not something that's going to help the Wii U. Most people aren't buying consoles to play classic games.

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Doesn't need fixing.

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#35  Edited By good_sk8er7
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@no-scope-AK47 said:

This is what should be done but won't be done.

1. Get rid of that tablet controller it cost too much and add very little ie it is a shit value

2. Hard drive inside the box 500GB so 3rd party devs and gamers have space

1.) The Tablet controller is awesome, one of the best parts. Play your games while your fiance wants to watch something you don't, or when she goes to sleep with some headphones so you can continue gaming without distubring here. Shit, you don't even have to turn your tv on to check the e shop or play a game. Also, alot of the times I'll just wake up and get on these forums using just the controller, the web browser is great btw, and go back to bed. Great application in games. Not having to open a map is the best thing since sliced bread.

2.) Really, 32 GB is plenty for Wii U. And you can attach flash drives or external hdd's if you really need it.

When I see stuff like this I just wonder if the poster even has one, if you do and don't see the value I'm sorry. For me it is great, I love the tablet controller personally.

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@starwolf474 said:

1. Advertise more. I've seen more advertising for the Xbox One and PS4 in the past few weeks than I have ever seen for the Wii U in the entire year that it has been out.

2. Release a 3DS Player for the Wii U like the old GameBoy Player that lets you play 3DS and DS games on your TV with the Wii U.

3. Do a better job with the Virtual Console. I think that the Virtual Console was one of the Wii's biggest selling points, but it has been handled poorly on the Wii U. They are just re-releasing the same games that were already released on the Wii's Virtual Console but at a much slower pace. They need to start releasing at least 3 Virtual Console games a week and release games for systems that were not already released on the Wii such as GameCube, DreamCast, and GBA.

3. Improve their online service and actually support it by having all of their first party multiplayer games be playable online.

4. Start packing the Pro Controller with the Wii U instead of the tablet controller. The tablet controller has proven to be a flop with little appeal and removing it as a pack-in with the Wii U will allow them to lower the price of the console to a more appealing price point. They can still sell the tablet controller as a separate peripheral for the people that want it.

5. Buy-up a major developer like Sega or Capcom. Nobody is going to buy 3rd party games on the Wii U when they can get a better version on Xbox or PS4, so Nintendo needs a new RARE to fill in the gaps between the major Nintendo franchise releases like RARE did on the N64. If Nintendo had a company like Sega or Capcom exclusive to Wii U, there would be less game droughts and it would also bring many more popular franchises exclusively to Wii U.

Agree with every point.

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#37  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@starwolf474 said:

4. Start packing the Pro Controller with the Wii U instead of the tablet controller. The tablet controller has proven to be a flop with little appeal and removing it as a pack-in with the Wii U will allow them to lower the price of the console to a more appealing price point. They can still sell the tablet controller as a separate peripheral for the people that want it.

5. Buy-up a major developer like Sega or Capcom. Nobody is going to buy 3rd party games on the Wii U when they can get a better version on Xbox or PS4, so Nintendo needs a new RARE to fill in the gaps between the major Nintendo franchise releases like RARE did on the N64. If Nintendo had a company like Sega or Capcom exclusive to Wii U, there would be less game droughts and it would also bring many more popular franchises exclusively to Wii U.

4. And with that, you just killed the point of the Wii U. Therefore, possibly killing off ANY sales it was going to have. Also, you realize you NEED the Wii U pad for running the damn thing, right?

5. With that, you caused another controversy WORSE than Bayonetta 2.

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#38 trugs26
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I don't know what they can do to increase sales. But at least they are fixing their software problem with a good 2014 lineup.

Here's hoping that it's enough to get them enough sales to keep profitable and carry on.

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#39  Edited By DocSanchez
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@princessgomez92: Not sure even Nintendo would agree with you on that one.

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#40 MirkoS77
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@thegroveman said:
@starwolf474 said:

4. Start packing the Pro Controller with the Wii U instead of the tablet controller. The tablet controller has proven to be a flop with little appeal and removing it as a pack-in with the Wii U will allow them to lower the price of the console to a more appealing price point. They can still sell the tablet controller as a separate peripheral for the people that want it.

Have to disagree with you here. The GamePad and off-TV play are a pretty big selling point to the console. Just because it's not being used as a true second screen experience in a lot of games doesn't mean it's useless.

I never understand the "get rid of the gamepad" argument. I can see how it'd make things cheaper, but it'd be incredibly difficult to implement. Patches would have to be retroactively applied to past games, and Mii-verse is heavily dependent on its functionality so that'd require Nintendo to do a complete overhaul. Unfortunately for Nintendo, the gamepad is an integral part of the system. There's no removing it without massive hassle.

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#41  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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I don't know if Nintendo can do anything. It's not the console that is the problem, it's them. Far too much has to change imo, and Nintendo are just too stubborn and have too much pride. Anything small Nintendo does would just be a bandaid, and even if that works they'd probably just do the same thing over and over.

Where to begin:

  • Politics
  • Management
  • Focusing on the same technologies as others, like online infrastructure.
  • Embracing the capabilities that current technologies allow such as better use of ai and physics.

And on and on.

Anwhy no analogue triggers, would it have hurt to put it on there and let developers decide what they want to use.

Among many others i'm sure. What is clear is that these are the fundamentals that need work before anything else. It's not good enough to drop the price or sell it with a couple of games.

Nintendo use the phrase 'we're not in competition with them' as an excuse not to keep up and adapt and that's what hurts them imo. Just because you "tell people" you aim your games at a different audience, it doesn't mean you don't bring you're products in line with new technologies or the use of them.

And note i'm not talking about releasing competitive hardware, they haven't even got to the stage where they're making use of the basics and what their own technology provides.

It shows in gameplay as well imo. Nintendo could be considered a front runner with level design but that's it. Indie devs are being more innovative with less powerful requirements than Nintendo these days, I mean WTF is going on? These little games on Steam have gameplay ideas that's you'd expect from a Nintendo product back in the day when they led innovation.

And why no analogue triggers, would it have hurt to put them on there and let developers decide what they want to use. That's how you do it, you don't tell people what they can use. Just like on the GC with that stupid control pad, what happens when Capcom want to make a fighter. It missed out on what was probably one of my favourite fighters of all time, a competent version of Capcom Vs SNK 2. They just had some weird EO version.

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#42  Edited By DarthaPerkinjan
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@princessgomez92 said:

Doesn't need fixing.

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#43  Edited By HarlockJC
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Hire more staff, Nintendo would do fine on their own if they came out with more games. If they hire more staff then they could make more new IPs as well use more older IPs. Nintendo games are well know for their quality, but there is just too large of a gap between games.

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In order for Nintendo to fix the problems they have, they need to know what problems they have. They do not seem to understand what problems they have, so they should take their feedback seriously; it does not seem like Nintendo is doing this. If people are going to complain about Super Mario 3D World needing on-line multi-player, then Nintendo should release a patch as soon as possible (They won't do this.); so that people who need it, can use it. If people feel there are not enough video games for the virtual console, on the Wii U or the Nintendo 3DS, then Nintendo should be trying to improve this; they should be trying to at least release the video games they have the rights to at a steady pace. If people feel the Wii U is lacking in terms of the third party support, then Nintendo should be trying to fix this; especially seeing as that they should know by now that is a problem, because it has been a problem for them, for a long time. If people feel Nintendo is not using a proper on-line account system, then this should be something they should have been focusing on when it was first complained about, instead it seems like they are wasting the time they had to do it, if they had not been working on it secretively already. The problems are simply remaining unsolved, they have no one to blame but themselves.

I feel like if they are going to ignore the problems and not make feedback their #1 priority and make progress based on the feedback, then they deserve anything that happens to them. I think this is obvious unless I am wrong, but I do not think Nintendo is trying to compete with Sony or Microsoft, otherwise they would have released better hardware and observed what Sony and Microsoft were doing before releasing their console. The only think they can keep doing now is make mistake after mistake as they been doing, so they can finally get it or continue to be the way the are until it catches up with them. Nothing we say matters, they will not pay any attention to what we think, even though we actually have a better idea of what the problem is, where as they do nothing.