What chanages do you want to see on the next Zelda?

I think that though Zelda is an awesome series, from a game player's standpoint (not a reviewer). But, Zelda has been pretty much the same since OOT. However, because OOT was one of the greatest games I have ever played, that's not really a bad thing. There are few elements that make a Zelda game Zelda, but at the same time, it makes Zelda predictable to play, and not as interesting as if it was something I have never experienced, imo. You also gotta admit that Nintendo's hardcore game sales are in need of a great boost, so I'm sure they'll do something special with the next Zelda. I would personally like a Zelda with better character development, more detailed exploration, more violence, more complex themes deviating away from the good versus evil, new weapons... etc. So, what do you want to see in the next Zelda?

Everything like Zelda TP but a better castle town and motion plus support

Wind Waker art style tia-Feath-

Violence, I want it to be a mature title for once and all.RichardStallman

It absolutely has to have voice acting. Actually, Twilight Princess should have had VOs. It's been too long, and there no excuse not to include it in this day and age.

Violence, I want it to be a mature title for once and all.RichardStallman

It absolutely has to have voice acting. Actually, Twilight Princess should have had VOs. It's been too long, and there no excuse not to include it in this day and age.

BuryMe

It absolutely has to have voice acting. Actually, Twilight Princess should have had VOs. It's been too long, and there no excuse not to include it in this day and age.

BuryMe

But, Zelda has been pretty much the same since OOT. IQ138

Is this the Nintendo forum? Just Joking, I don't really care.

[QUOTE="RichardStallman"]Violence, I want it to be a mature title for once and all.sam_nintendo

It absolutely has to have voice acting. Actually, Twilight Princess should have had VOs. It's been too long, and there no excuse not to include it in this day and age.

BuryMe

[QUOTE="IQ138"] But, Zelda has been pretty much the same since OOT. foxhound_fox

you got me there:P yes, majora's mask is different than other zeldas.

It absolutely has to have voice acting. Actually, Twilight Princess should have had VOs. It's been too long, and there no excuse not to include it in this day and age.

BuryMe

[QUOTE="IQ138"] But, Zelda has been pretty much the same since OOT. foxhound_fox

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[QUOTE="IQ138"] But, Zelda has been pretty much the same since OOT. sam_nintendo

Is this the Nintendo forum? Just Joking, I don't really care.

shawn7324

yea but, Zelda needs help from games like Gears of War, God of War, Halo, GTA...:D

What I would like from the new Zelda:

• Strategic dismemberment, Dead Space styIe. Well, not quite, but it would be nice to use the motion plus in a strategic way to fight enemies, adding a bit of challenge in dispatching them.
• Seasons. Ocarina of Time amazed me with its night to day transition, and the importance of it. They should do the same thing with a seasonal system that really helps the game feel long and epic.
• You know how the NES title drops you into a big world, and lets you loose to discover everything about it? I would like that. Hidden, interlinking dungeons and areas that you can approach in any way you wish.
• Related to the above, lots of sidequests with important results.
• Do away with heart pieces and instead incorporate RPG-lite features, some of which can be found in Zelda II. Have the abilitiy to grow link proportional to the enemies he has fought and triumphed over.
• Voice over work for everyone except Link, who should forever remain a silent everyman.
• An art styIe that is consistent, and does not conflict with itself, as Twilight Princess did.
• A return to form in terms of theme; something as deep and mature as Majora's Mask, or Links Awakening.
• A truly Vertical world. The mountains and sky temple were nice in Twilight Princess, but the whole world would work much better as the inside of a sphere, with many layers of complexity to explore. The series has been edging towards this.
• A more populated world, with lots of memorable NPCs.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
You haven't played Majora's Mask, have you?

I don't know what changes I want. I just want to see an entire formula chance and the addition of an actual narrative that goes beyond "hero in green, get gems, get Master Sword, get more gems, get Tri-Force, beat Ganondorf, win." A modern or futuristic adaptation would be exceptionally intriguing, given that the "Hero of Time" can exist in any time period, and doesn't necessarily have to be a medieval fantasy setting. Steam-punk would be quite exciting.

farnham

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[QUOTE="sam_nintendo"] Steampunk Zelda? Ugh, now I have to go change my pants :evil:

sam_nintendo

[QUOTE="IQ138"]

But, Zelda has been pretty much the same since OOT.

foxhound_fox

You haven't played Majora's Mask, have you?

I don't know what changes I want. I just want to see an entire formula chance and the addition of an actual narrative that goes beyond "hero in green, get gems, get Master Sword, get more gems, get Tri-Force, beat Ganondorf, win." A modern or futuristic adaptation would be exceptionally intriguing, given that the "Hero of Time" can exist in any time period, and doesn't necessarily have to be a medieval fantasy setting. Steam-punk would be quite exciting.

For an intelligent poster, it disappoints me that you would fall back on terrible fan fiction as a good idea for the direction of this franchise.

Narrative is actually quite deep in Zelda games, but it is only there if you explore. So much can be interpreted from the world you are given, its unreal. You have played Majora's Mask; that is quite possibly the most mature game I have ever played, from a narrative perspective. Even Twilight Princess and Wind Waker had themes that transcended the basic storyline. That is what makes the games so enjoyable for so many people. Steampunk Zelda would easily distract from the world. It should grow and evolve, yes, but do so organically. We have had cameras, rockets, trains, loads of "modern" stuff in Zelda already, and they have all fit inside the world well enough.

Ok here is what i want if they take the dark path:

No voice acting. Or it better be darn good voice acting, and what are the odds?! The way they make the text work to convey a feeling is fantastic. The text will have to change into regular subtitles if You do VA.

More mystery! TP was great but it lacked sense of mystery. The series started with the idea of mystery. A cave in a forest that makes You wonder, what is inside? I missed that feel. There weren't enough corners and things to look into. Maybe more buildup would help. Like a form of ingame folklore that makes You curious about a certain happening or enemy.

Bring back the organic world! What made MM so awesome was how all characters intertwined. They had schedules, many had secrets and almost all characters contributed significantly to creating a living breathing fantasy world. In TP they completely threw that aspect out the window. A shame, in my opinion.

More sidequests! What TP also lacked were sidequests and especially in a Zelda game where You are tempted to explore every corner, sidequests fit right in. It's not exactly a gameseries that makes You want to rush through the story. It's a game in which You want to go out, explore, challenge, and breathe the magical world.

Awesome unlockz! We all remember that Magic armor from TP... It looked funny but... What a letdown!!! Now, remember that island You could receive in WW or the swords/masks in MM? Now THAT was the way it should be done! Except... that You could hardly use that awesome mask when You got it.
Also, personally, i'd like more aesthetic unlocks. Like ways to alter Your appearance. We saw this a bit in Spirit Tracks. I liked it a lot.

Difficulty! TP could have been like twice as epic, IF the bosses actually posed a threat. As they were, i almost withheld myself from killing bosses, afraid it would end already. And it did. Really nintendo don't be afraid to use difficulty settings or something similar, please!

Linearity! In TP when You got an item You used it for the next 30 minutes and then hardly ever again. Made me very sad. What i missed was the idea of having to solve puzzles throughout the world like in OOT, where You get items without knowing straight away where to use them. I think this is also very personal.

That's all.

I dont want another twilight princess, i want a zelda game that innovates or adds something completely newMicrosoft1234

[QUOTE="shawn7324"]

Is this the Nintendo forum? Just Joking, I don't really care.

IQ138

yea but, Zelda needs help from games like Gears of War, God of War, Halo, GTA...:D

[...] make them speak jibberish/Hylian whatever. Like the elves on the LOTR movies. [...]Thunderdrone

[QUOTE="IQ138"]

[QUOTE="shawn7324"]

Is this the Nintendo forum? Just Joking, I don't really care.

shawn7324

yea but, Zelda needs help from games like Gears of War, God of War, Halo, GTA...:D

What I would like from the new Zelda:

• Strategic dismemberment, Dead Space styIe. Well, not quite, but it would be nice to use the motion plus in a strategic way to fight enemies, adding a bit of challenge in dispatching them.
• Seasons. Ocarina of Time amazed me with its night to day transition, and the importance of it. They should do the same thing with a seasonal system that really helps the game feel long and epic.
• You know how the NES title drops you into a big world, and lets you loose to discover everything about it? I would like that. Hidden, interlinking dungeons and areas that you can approach in any way you wish.
• Related to the above, lots of sidequests with important results.
• Do away with heart pieces and instead incorporate RPG-lite features, some of which can be found in Zelda II. Have the abilitiy to grow link proportional to the enemies he has fought and triumphed over.
• Voice over work for everyone except Link, who should forever remain a silent everyman.
• An art styIe that is consistent, and does not conflict with itself, as Twilight Princess did.
• A return to form in terms of theme; something as deep and mature as Majora's Mask, or Links Awakening.
• A truly Vertical world. The mountains and sky temple were nice in Twilight Princess, but the whole world would work much better as the inside of a sphere, with many layers of complexity to explore. The series has been edging towards this.
• A more populated world, with lots of memorable NPCs.

eveileb-ekam

Those are some really great ideas. I've always thought that Zelda could use season changes which would change the entire gameplay over course of seasons. I like the idea of more populous world (hopefully a big city like the ones found in GTA... oh no i didn't just say that), but at the same time, a country feel to it by having open fields where you can get away from the city.

get some talanted voice acting.......give them some damn character development. text doesnt cut it anymore. Now it just shows your lazy.

no more soundboard soundtracks........hire a live orchestra.

would it kill Nintendo to have maybe a smidge of blood in their games?

get some talanted voice acting.......give them some damn character development. text doesnt cut it anymore. Now it just shows your lazy.

no more soundboard soundtracks........hire a live orchestra.

would it kill Nintendo to have maybe a smidge of blood in their games?

ZuneHD

[QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"]

What I would like from the new Zelda:

• Strategic dismemberment, Dead Space styIe. Well, not quite, but it would be nice to use the motion plus in a strategic way to fight enemies, adding a bit of challenge in dispatching them.
• Seasons. Ocarina of Time amazed me with its night to day transition, and the importance of it. They should do the same thing with a seasonal system that really helps the game feel long and epic.
• You know how the NES title drops you into a big world, and lets you loose to discover everything about it? I would like that. Hidden, interlinking dungeons and areas that you can approach in any way you wish.
• Related to the above, lots of sidequests with important results.
• Do away with heart pieces and instead incorporate RPG-lite features, some of which can be found in Zelda II. Have the abilitiy to grow link proportional to the enemies he has fought and triumphed over.
• Voice over work for everyone except Link, who should forever remain a silent everyman.
• An art styIe that is consistent, and does not conflict with itself, as Twilight Princess did.
• A return to form in terms of theme; something as deep and mature as Majora's Mask, or Links Awakening.
• A truly Vertical world. The mountains and sky temple were nice in Twilight Princess, but the whole world would work much better as the inside of a sphere, with many layers of complexity to explore. The series has been edging towards this.
• A more populated world, with lots of memorable NPCs.

IQ138

Those are some really great ideas. I've always thought that Zelda could use season changes which would change the entire gameplay over course of seasons. I like the idea of more populous world (hopefully a big city like the ones found in GTA... oh no i didn't just say that), but at the same time, a country feel to it by having open fields where you can get away from the city.

I'd like the overall gameworld to be more compact than it was in Twilight Princess. There were too many long stretches of area with very little interact with. Even though I love the game, that aspect didn't feel very Zelda to me.

I would also like items to serve more of a purpose. Not just some piece of equipment that comes in useful like once in the entire game.

I want them to stick with the Wind Waker art style. It's much stronger than the OoT/TP style and has much more personality.

Twilight Princess is exactly what the fans were clamouring for after Wind Waker. A return to form, they wanted. A return to Ocarina of Time. It is a good game, but it is not refreshing. The only issue with it is the lack of an overarching theme, as are present in the other games, and the conflicting art styIe. It is light on side quests and population, but that is not really detrimental to the overall game. If it had been anything other than Zelda, it would have been a massive success as far as action adventure games go. eveileb-ekam

Conveniently enough, Wind Waker became the God game when Twilight Princess came out and turned out not to be the second coming of Christ.

The Wind Waker is a great game and the cel-shaded style was a bold move, but it's no better or worse than TP and people go on and on about the Wind Waker's "art style" as if to say Twilight Princess had bland or inferior art direction/production design which could not be further from the truth.

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

It absolutely has to have voice acting. Actually, Twilight Princess should have had VOs. It's been too long, and there no excuse not to include it in this day and age.

Thunderdrone

[QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"]Twilight Princess is exactly what the fans were clamouring for after Wind Waker. A return to form, they wanted. A return to Ocarina of Time. It is a good game, but it is not refreshing. The only issue with it is the lack of an overarching theme, as are present in the other games, and the conflicting art styIe. It is light on side quests and population, but that is not really detrimental to the overall game. If it had been anything other than Zelda, it would have been a massive success as far as action adventure games go. Menalque2

Conveniently enough, Wind Waker became the God game when Twilight Princess came out and turned out not to be the second coming of Christ.

The Wind Waker is a great game and the cel-shaded style was a bold move, but it's no better or worse than TP and people go on and on about the Wind Waker's "art style" as if to say Twilight Princess had bland or inferior art direction/production design which could not be further from the truth.

Oh yeah make Zelda a linear button-masher like God of war with much blood

They should go back and make it retro but stylize it, maybe making it look like blocks of legos.

They should go back and make it retro but stylize it, maybe making it look like blocks of legos.

gago-gago

To Fully utilize the motion plus.

Couple things i want for the new Zelda

1. Seasons changing could be really cool. Imagine, puzzles only being able to be solved if the water is frozen so you need to use the song of Winter. Later through the game you unlock the song of Spring so that a bean stalk will grow and you can use it to travel up to a ledge. I'm not a designer but the makers of LoZ could come up with some really great stuff using this type of feature.

2. Make it more like Majora's Mask. You hear it a lot, but MM was a really awesome Zelda game that was SO different from the others that it needs to be borrowed from. Bring back the intense and LONG dungeons that are multilayered and where every lever you pull affects everything there. But also have a lot of dungeons like in TP or OoT. Also from MM, have a great castle town. Clock Town had so many characters and every one of them had a story and side-quests to do, bring that back! And of course, bring a mature story to the game as well much like MM.

3. Most importantly, revolutionize Zelda. When Zelda came to the N64 it came in a whole new perspective and way of playing. I know Miyamoto can do it again. I was thinking an overview again like the original and LttP, but have us control Link differently. Not completely like Phantom Hourglass or Spirit Tracks, but perhaps similar. Like the poll suggests, have something new besides Z-Targeting. Also, i'm not too keen on motion based sword fighting. Unless the developers can make it REALLY cool and interesting and keep it tight to the way of the Zelda experience. which i have confidence they can do if they try.

Thats pretty much all i can think of right now, but even just ONE of those things would be a very welcome change. And like someone else said, a new theme could be really awesome. Maybe not make it in space, but change up the setting for the world instead of just a Tolkien esque fantasy/medieval land