little big planet isnt a good platformer
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LOL SONIC UNLEASHED IS GOOD??? Not even the Wii version, buddy. The best 3D Sonic being Secrets? Well, after so many crappy ones I agree. But the 360 XBLA has both Banjo-Kazooie AND Banjo-Tooie, so it automatically wins by the sheer epicness of the 2 greatest platformers of all time:PThe Wii, not just because of SMG as it has other good platformers such as De Blob, Super Paper Mario, WarioLand, Sonic Unleashed, Sonic and the Secret Rings (best 3D sonic game in a long time IMO), Nights and other Wiiware games. VC also has many great platformers.
fabz_95
Wii because of Mario.
PS3 second because of Ratchet and Clank.
360 last I guess...
Edit-I forgot Little Big Planet! :o
I guess it depends if you like Mario, Banjo & Kazooie or Ratchet & Clank. I like R&C the most but Super Mario Galaxy was the best platformer I have ever played. B&K is also great, Nuts and Bolts needs more love. It's a hard decision but I'll have to pick the Wii for SMG, SMG2, New Super Mario Bros., Super Paper Mario, the **** ton of Virtual Console games and more.
I don't know. I really want to say Wii, but the only platformer I've played on there is The Simpsons game. Pretty good game on the Wii, but that's a multiplat. I really don't care for Galaxy, nintendoboy16what :| are you implying that the simpsons game is better than SMGOTY?
[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]I don't know. I really want to say Wii, but the only platformer I've played on there is The Simpsons game. Pretty good game on the Wii, but that's a multiplat. I really don't care for Galaxy, Shinobishyguywhat :| are you implying that the simpsons game is better than SMGOTY?
R&CF ToD and LBP. Two amazing platformers that alone would bring many people to choose PS3.Wii. PS3 doesn't even come close, so I don't know why the poll is so damn high.
BioShockOwnz
[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]R&CF ToD and LBP. Two amazing platformers that alone would bring many people to choose PS3.Wii. PS3 doesn't even come close, so I don't know why the poll is so damn high.
StealthMonkey4
Well there's the problem. People think Rachet is still a platformer and LBP had good gammeplay. Understandable . . . . Wrong, but understandable.
R&CF ToD and LBP. Two amazing platformers that alone would bring many people to choose PS3.[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]
Wii. PS3 doesn't even come close, so I don't know why the poll is so damn high.
ActicEdge
Well there's the problem. People think Rachet is still a platformer and LBP had good gammeplay. Understandable . . . . Wrong, but understandable.
R&CF ToD is still a platformer even if it's not 100% a platformer. LBP's strong point wasn't it's gameplay, it was it's level creation which made it an amazing game. The question wasn't which system had the games with the best platforming gameplay, it was which system has the best platformers and LBP and R&CF ToD are both platformers.I think this is one genre where Wii wins by a landslide. Although my favourite platformer this gen is Kameo, then LBP and then SMG (havent played all of it yet).
When talking about platformers i really think we should distinct the 2 sub categories within them more. 3D platformers are so different to 2D ones, they should each be a genre. But then again, in regards to this topic, i think the Wii wins both.
[QUOTE="ActicEdge"][QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"] R&CF ToD and LBP. Two amazing platformers that alone would bring many people to choose PS3.StealthMonkey4
Well there's the problem. People think Rachet is still a platformer and LBP had good gammeplay. Understandable . . . . Wrong, but understandable.
R&CF ToD is still a platformer even if it's not 100% a platformer. LBP's strong point wasn't it's gameplay, it was it's level creation which made it an amazing game. The question wasn't which system had the games with the best platforming gameplay, it was which system has the best platformers and LBP and R&CF ToD are both platformers.How can you be the best platformer and not have good platforming? Or have platforming as the main focus? Rachet isn't a platformer, you have to actually do a moderate level of platforming to be a platformer. LBP had meh platforming, I don't see how creation matters to the end result of being a good platformer.
R&CF ToD is still a platformer even if it's not 100% a platformer. LBP's strong point wasn't it's gameplay, it was it's level creation which made it an amazing game. The question wasn't which system had the games with the best platforming gameplay, it was which system has the best platformers and LBP and R&CF ToD are both platformers.[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]
Well there's the problem. People think Rachet is still a platformer and LBP had good gammeplay. Understandable . . . . Wrong, but understandable.
ActicEdge
How can you be the best platformer and not have good platforming? Or have platforming as the main focus? Rachet isn't a platformer, you have to actually do a moderate level of platforming to be a platformer. LBP had meh platforming, I don't see how creation matters to the end result of being a good platformer.
The same way Fallout 3 can be considered an amazing RPG despite having strong FPS elements prevailing. And again the question was which is the best platformer. LBP and R&C are both platformers reagardless of how much platforming content is actually in them. And LBP was considered by many to be an amazing platformer, it's your opinion if you don't like it but it is very much a platformer. As for R&C it still has many platforming elements, it isn't completely and 100% a platformer, but it is still a platformer.[QUOTE="ActicEdge"][QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"] R&CF ToD is still a platformer even if it's not 100% a platformer. LBP's strong point wasn't it's gameplay, it was it's level creation which made it an amazing game. The question wasn't which system had the games with the best platforming gameplay, it was which system has the best platformers and LBP and R&CF ToD are both platformers.StealthMonkey4
How can you be the best platformer and not have good platforming? Or have platforming as the main focus? Rachet isn't a platformer, you have to actually do a moderate level of platforming to be a platformer. LBP had meh platforming, I don't see how creation matters to the end result of being a good platformer.
The same way Fallout 3 can be considered an amazing RPG despite having strong FPS elements prevailing. And again the question was which is the best platformer. LBP and R&C are both platformers reagardless of how much platforming content is actually in them. And LBP was considered by many to be an amazing platformer, it's your opinion if you don't like it but it is very much a platformer. As for R&C it still has many platforming elements, it isn't completely and 100% a platformer, but it is still a platformer.Difference being that it may still be strong in its core focus. A platformer with mediocore platforming isn't a good platformer. To actually argue that the core basis of what makes a platformer good (the platforming) doesn't need to be good to make the game an amazing "platformer" is actually baffling to me. Its like trying to say an FPS can be amazing with poor combat or a puzzle game can be amazing even with poor puzzles. Its a logic error. Its actual a common sense aspect that is completely missed in reviews. How can a game get fantastic scores when its core component isn't amazing itself?
As far as being a platformer regardless of platforming content that is also false. The platforming defines a platformer. The friggin name of the genre explains its core component. If the core component of the game isn't the general act of platforming and platformer like activities its not a platformer. Its like calling uncharted or GOW plaformers because they have platforming in them. That's wrong. There is a difference between a game that contains platforming elements and a game that is a platformer. Ratchet is the former. I don't see how you think the bolded actually makes logical sense if you think about it. A platformer where the act of platforming is secondary? What?
As for LBP, I admit its a platformer, not a good platformer which you already admitted but still a platformer. However Ratchet isn't a platformer. Its an action adventure game with platforming elements. There's a difference.
[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]R&CF ToD and LBP. Two amazing platformers that alone would bring many people to choose PS3.Wii. PS3 doesn't even come close, so I don't know why the poll is so damn high.
StealthMonkey4
I love LBP, but the platforming is subpar. And an A game? I hated ToD. ACIT is probably a better argument.
what :| are you implying that the simpsons game is better than SMGOTY?[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]I don't know. I really want to say Wii, but the only platformer I've played on there is The Simpsons game. Pretty good game on the Wii, but that's a multiplat. I really don't care for Galaxy, foxhound_fox
because I have yet to find anyone legitimately hate galaxy for a good reason other than the whole "bu bu opinions" excuse or just being a flat out nintendo hater such as yourself.Shinobishyguy
The same way Fallout 3 can be considered an amazing RPG despite having strong FPS elements prevailing. And again the question was which is the best platformer. LBP and R&C are both platformers reagardless of how much platforming content is actually in them. And LBP was considered by many to be an amazing platformer, it's your opinion if you don't like it but it is very much a platformer. As for R&C it still has many platforming elements, it isn't completely and 100% a platformer, but it is still a platformer.[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]
How can you be the best platformer and not have good platforming? Or have platforming as the main focus? Rachet isn't a platformer, you have to actually do a moderate level of platforming to be a platformer. LBP had meh platforming, I don't see how creation matters to the end result of being a good platformer.
ActicEdge
Difference being that it may still be strong in its core focus. A platformer with mediocore platforming isn't a good platformer. To actually argue that the core basis of what makes a platformer good (the platforming) doesn't need to be good to make the game an amazing "platformer" is actually baffling to me. Its like trying to say an FPS can be amazing with poor combat or a puzzle game can be amazing even with poor puzzles. Its a logic error. Its actual a common sense aspect that is completely missed in reviews. How can a game get fantastic scores when its core component isn't amazing itself?
As far as being a platformer regardless of platforming content that is also false. The platforming defines a platformer. The friggin name of the genre explains its core component. If the core component of the game isn't the general act of platforming and platformer like activities its not a platformer. Its like calling uncharted or GOW plaformers because they have platforming in them. That's wrong. There is a difference between a game that contains platforming elements and a game that is a platformer. Ratchet is the former. I don't see how you think the bolded actually makes logical sense if you think about it. A platformer where the act of platforming is secondary? What?
As for LBP, I admit its a platformer, not a good platformer which you already admitted but still a platformer. However Ratchet isn't a platformer. Its an action adventure game with platforming elements. There's a difference.
Ratchet and Clank IS a platformer, it doesn't matter if you think it doesn't have much platforming or not, it still IS a platformer. And yet again the question is which system has the best platformers (which R&C is) not which system has the best platformers with the best platforming elements. Even though R&C doesn't have amazing platforming elements it is still a good game and a good platformer, thus it is a good platformer. And I fail to see what is so bad about LBP's gameplay.R&CF ToD and LBP. Two amazing platformers that alone would bring many people to choose PS3.[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]
Wii. PS3 doesn't even come close, so I don't know why the poll is so damn high.
BioShockOwnz
I love LBP, but the platforming is subpar. And an A game? I hated ToD. ACIT is probably a better argument.
Just because GameSpot gave it a 7.5 doesn't mean it's bad. Metacritic is more of the general consensus for a game and it's a 89 on Metacritic.[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]because I have yet to find anyone legitimately hate galaxy for a good reason other than the whole "bu bu opinions" excuse or just being a flat out nintendo hater such as yourself.
foxhound_fox
[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="SalesAnalyst"] "Best", not "worst"...SilverChimeraYou think it sucks so much, but you can't give much of a reason beyond "it has no multiplayer." the story sucks? :P lol
ya cuz we all know LBP has a way better story :P
[QUOTE="ActicEdge"][QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"] The same way Fallout 3 can be considered an amazing RPG despite having strong FPS elements prevailing. And again the question was which is the best platformer. LBP and R&C are both platformers reagardless of how much platforming content is actually in them. And LBP was considered by many to be an amazing platformer, it's your opinion if you don't like it but it is very much a platformer. As for R&C it still has many platforming elements, it isn't completely and 100% a platformer, but it is still a platformer.StealthMonkey4
Difference being that it may still be strong in its core focus. A platformer with mediocore platforming isn't a good platformer. To actually argue that the core basis of what makes a platformer good (the platforming) doesn't need to be good to make the game an amazing "platformer" is actually baffling to me. Its like trying to say an FPS can be amazing with poor combat or a puzzle game can be amazing even with poor puzzles. Its a logic error. Its actual a common sense aspect that is completely missed in reviews. How can a game get fantastic scores when its core component isn't amazing itself?
As far as being a platformer regardless of platforming content that is also false. The platforming defines a platformer. The friggin name of the genre explains its core component. If the core component of the game isn't the general act of platforming and platformer like activities its not a platformer. Its like calling uncharted or GOW plaformers because they have platforming in them. That's wrong. There is a difference between a game that contains platforming elements and a game that is a platformer. Ratchet is the former. I don't see how you think the bolded actually makes logical sense if you think about it. A platformer where the act of platforming is secondary? What?
As for LBP, I admit its a platformer, not a good platformer which you already admitted but still a platformer. However Ratchet isn't a platformer. Its an action adventure game with platforming elements. There's a difference.
Ratchet and Clank IS a platformer, it doesn't matter if you think it doesn't have much platforming or not, it still IS a platformer. And yet again the question is which system has the best platformers (which R&C is) not which system has the best platformers with the best platforming elements. Even though R&C doesn't have amazing platforming elements it is still a good game and a good platformer, thus it is a good platformer. And I fail to see what is so bad about LBP's gameplay.1. No its not. Its an action adventure game with some platforming elements.
2.Logical error. You are not even paying attention to what I typed. Not gonna type it again because its clear as day what I'm saying is logically correct.
I think lbp and infamous tip the scale towered the ps3 sideTekkenloving
and i think its common that ppl confuse platformers with action advantures
just like first party and second party
[QUOTE="Tekkenloving"]I think lbp and infamous tip the scale towered the ps3 sideActicEdge
Infamous isn't a platformer :|
and even if it was. mario galaxy = best game this gen
[QUOTE="Tekkenloving"]I think lbp and infamous tip the scale towered the ps3 sideActicEdge
Infamous isn't a platformer :|
infamous is the ultimate platform , not only lots of mission/powers are platform oriantd you can climb on almost anything in the game[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="SalesAnalyst"] "Best", not "worst"...SilverChimeraYou think it sucks so much, but you can't give much of a reason beyond "it has no multiplayer." the story sucks? :P lol
like in any mario game
[QUOTE="ActicEdge"][QUOTE="Tekkenloving"]I think lbp and infamous tip the scale towered the ps3 sideTekkenloving
Infamous isn't a platformer :|
infamous is the ultimate platform , not only lots of mission/powers are platform oriantd you can climb on almost anything in the game(sigh) Grabbing ledges is not what makes a platformer a platformer. The act of platforming and platforming activities as the PRIMARY FOCUS of the game is what makes it a platformer. That's why Super Metroid is not a platformer even though there is a ton of platforming in it. Infamous is an action adventure game becasue the platforming is not the focus of the game. From what I've seen (not played) of inFamous its not even superb in the platforming section either. Climbing does not qualify as platforming. Platformer involves jumping for goodness sakes.
Your Favorite Platformer isn't a Platformer Kameo is basically Microsofts Legend of Zelda (It is a great game but I wouldn't call it a Platformer I would call it an Action/Adventure just like Zelda.)I think this is one genre where Wii wins by a landslide. Although my favourite platformer this gen is Kameo, then LBP and then SMG (havent played all of it yet).
When talking about platformers i really think we should distinct the 2 sub categories within them more. 3D platformers are so different to 2D ones, they should each be a genre. But then again, in regards to this topic, i think the Wii wins both.
shutdown_202
But yeah I agree the Wii wins this genre they have so many great 2D and 3D platformers and 2.5D platformers.
infamous is the ultimate platform , not only lots of mission/powers are platform oriantd you can climb on almost anything in the game[QUOTE="Tekkenloving"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]
Infamous isn't a platformer :|
ActicEdge
(sigh) Grabbing ledges is not what makes a platformer a platformer. The act of platforming and platforming activities as the PRIMARY FOCUS of the game is what makes it a platformer. That's why Super Metroid is not a platformer even though there is a ton of platforming in it. Infamous is an action adventure game becasue the platforming is not the focus of the game. From what I've seen (not played) of inFamous its not even superb in the platforming section either. Climbing does not qualify as platforming. Platformer involves jumping for goodness sakes.
Super Metroid is in a Sub-genre of Platformers it is like Castlevania they are both Platformers but a sub-genre of Platformer. Contra is a Platformer it is an Action Platformer.[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]
[QUOTE="Tekkenloving"]infamous is the ultimate platform , not only lots of mission/powers are platform oriantd you can climb on almost anything in the gameNintendo_Ownes7
(sigh) Grabbing ledges is not what makes a platformer a platformer. The act of platforming and platforming activities as the PRIMARY FOCUS of the game is what makes it a platformer. That's why Super Metroid is not a platformer even though there is a ton of platforming in it. Infamous is an action adventure game becasue the platforming is not the focus of the game. From what I've seen (not played) of inFamous its not even superb in the platforming section either. Climbing does not qualify as platforming. Platformer involves jumping for goodness sakes.
Super Metroid is in a Sub-genre of Platformers it is like Castlevania they are both Platformers but a sub-genre of Platformer. Contra is a Platformer it is an Action Platformer.Castlevania and Metroid are side scrolling action (add an adventure here if you please)games. They are not inherently platformers. The focus isn't the platforming. Contra is a sidescrolling action game.
Your Favorite Platformer isn't a Platformer Kameo is basically Microsofts Legend of Zelda (It is a great game but I wouldn't call it a Platformer I would call it an Action/Adventure just like Zelda.)[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]
I think this is one genre where Wii wins by a landslide. Although my favourite platformer this gen is Kameo, then LBP and then SMG (havent played all of it yet).
When talking about platformers i really think we should distinct the 2 sub categories within them more. 3D platformers are so different to 2D ones, they should each be a genre. But then again, in regards to this topic, i think the Wii wins both.
Nintendo_Ownes7
But yeah I agree the Wii wins this genre they have so many great 2D and 3D platformers and 2.5D platformers.
Guess its LBP then. That could change this fall with NSMBW. I havent played NSMB DS so this is my first 2D mario game in around 15 years. So i cant wait!
Wii.
New Super Mario Bros Wii, Super Mario Galaxy, A Boy and His Blob, Muramasa The Demon Blade, ect.
the ps3, but only because of little big planet and the fact that ill be able to play the new jak and daxter on it as well. i bought lbp at launch last year and i still play it consistently. on the other hand, i bought super mario galaxy, got all the stars and sold it after a month. little big planet is easily one of the best games i have ever played.
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