What did you really expected from the wiimote??

Face it, we all thought that this thing was going to have 1:1 movement for complex motions and skills in most of its games

remember when it was first unveiled? the speculation? "ZOMG!!!!! imagine a star wars game with real lightsaber motion!!!"

or red steel, people expected that the swordfighting would require actual skill handling the wiimote-sword to defeat the "higher dificulty enemies due to improved repose time for the player thanks to the wiimote"

or "this will be the ULTIMATE CONTROL for FPS!!!!!"

i always thought that thanks to the free movement of the wiimote, games were going to have more complex situations to deal with.....instead..... we got to draw figures in the air to do tricks in ssx blur

truth be told, there's one thing that wiimote does good, AIMING A CURSOR ON THE SCREEN, much better than an analogue, but its something that a mouse has been doing for years , hence nothing that new

because dont tell me that swinging the wiimote whatever you like and Link doing the same sword slash in zelda was what you were expecting , a fancy button replacement is not "TEH REVOLUTION IN VIDEOGAMES"

what did you expected from wiimote previous to launch? and enough with the "give it time" excuse

Face it,

Gears360

I expected something smart and intuitive at first.  Wii Sports was just that, but i was hoping for a full blown game to use it.

It's sad that I had to wait until the Godfather before I saw some promise.  The controls for that game feel great. 

I expected something smart and intuitive at first.  Wii Sports was just that, but i was hoping for a full blown game to use it.

It's sad that I had to wait until the Godfather before I saw some promise.  The controls for that game feel great. 

Michael85

Madden didn't do it for ya?

i dont feel that we've seen the limits of the wiimote.  It will never be like holding a lightsaber, but it can give a similar experience with clever compromises.  In warioware, there's that "oh man, the enemy" game that uses sword fighting.  I imagine any sword fighting game will build on that model (especially the hardest, fastest enemy)

i only played the wii sport, excited truck and zelda.. from what i saw i don't like it.. specially the excited truck, for the sport i found the control to be  non responsive to the stuff i wanted to do and thats why i don't like the wii.

a sex toy.  but where are teh games??

;) :roll:  :lol:

a sex toy.  but where are teh games??

;) :roll:  :lol:

NocturnalDemon

"Face it" should be the fanboy motto.Darthmatt

I didn't think it was going to replace button pushing with hand moving. I think motion should only be used to have the on-screen action match your movement. So waving your hand to slash your sword in Zelda is just making youre hand tired for no good reason.

Waving it to match a sword movement 1 to 1 is what it really should do, or to push something off you (Like the motion in Resistance) is more natural. Using the nunchuk to turn the camera in Marvel Ultimate Alliance is a pain, especially since you have to keep your hand leveled or the camera will turn all the time. 

Motion should be 1 to 1 or not used at all.

 

I didn't think it was going to replace button pushing with hand moving. I think motion should only be used to have the on-screen action match your movement. So waving your hand to slash your sword in Zelda is just making youre hand tired for no good reason.

Waving it to match a sword movement 1 to 1 is what it really should do, or to push something off you (Like the motion in Resistance) is more natural. Using the nunchuk to turn the camera in Marvel Ultimate Alliance is a pain, especially since you have to keep your hand leveled or the camera will turn all the time. 

Motion should be 1 to 1 or not used at all.

 

Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]"Face it" should be the fanboy motto.Gears360

 

I didn't think it was going to replace button pushing with hand moving. I think motion should only be used to have the on-screen action match your movement. So waving your hand to slash your sword in Zelda is just making youre hand tired for no good reason.

Bread_or_Decide

my  hand was never tired playing zelda. maybe you didn't find the right way to rest your hands on your sides. it's not like zelda was a high action game. there's many long pauses between action scenes. the slashing was never for prolonged periods of time. as for 1 to 1 motion. that's something i'd like to see more of too. 

 

I didn't think it was going to replace button pushing with hand moving. I think motion should only be used to have the on-screen action match your movement. So waving your hand to slash your sword in Zelda is just making youre hand tired for no good reason.

Waving it to match a sword movement 1 to 1 is what it really should do, or to push something off you (Like the motion in Resistance) is more natural. Using the nunchuk to turn the camera in Marvel Ultimate Alliance is a pain, especially since you have to keep your hand leveled or the camera will turn all the time. 

Motion should be 1 to 1 or not used at all.

 

Bread_or_Decide

except, in zelda you dont get tired :?

It kicks dual-analogue's arse at FPS, it just just needs a good game behind it.tomarlyn

true dat

I'm still waiting for the adult games. Wii needs more porn.

[QUOTE="Gears360"]

Face it,

karicha9

Face it, we all thought that this thing was going to have 1:1 movement for complex motions and skills in most of its games

remember when it was first unveiled? the speculation? "ZOMG!!!!! imagine a star wars game with real lightsaber motion!!!"

or red steel, people expected that the swordfighting would require actual skill handling the wiimote-sword to defeat the "higher dificulty enemies due to improved repose time for the player thanks to the wiimote"

or "this will be the ULTIMATE CONTROL for FPS!!!!!"

i always thought that thanks to the free movement of the wiimote, games were going to have more complex situations to deal with.....instead..... we got to draw figures in the air to do tricks in ssx blur

truth be told, there's one thing that wiimote does good, AIMING A CURSOR ON THE SCREEN, much better than an analogue, but its something that a mouse has been doing for years , hence nothing that new

because dont tell me that swinging the wiimote whatever you like and Link doing the same sword slash in zelda was what you were expecting , a fancy button replacement is not "TEH REVOLUTION IN VIDEOGAMES"

what did you expected from wiimote previous to launch? and enough with the "give it time" excuse

Gears360

Since I actually OWN the wii, and not just judging it from the sidelines...I love the Wii controller and feel it delivers on everything it is supposed to.  Just because developers haven't managed to work it into their games perfectly, doesn't mean it is a fault with how the controller works.  Some games will work better than others.

Frankly, I love how Twilight Princess controls.  I love being able to run and do actions by moving the remote but then do a quick weapons change and have perfect accuracy.  I love how Trauma Centre controls thanks to the mouse like motion (nobody said this was new in this regard).  Hell, I even loved how the controller worked for Sonic despite the games many shortcomings.

Now I'm waiting for a golf game that works properly (unlike Tiger Woods which sucked but showed promise). 

i expected some AAA titles with innovative controls,

but what i got was A-AA titles with tacked on controls.

anyway,im sure that will change in the near future,hopefully :?

It kicks dual-analogue's arse at FPS, it just just needs a good game behind it.tomarlyn

Until this actually happens its just heresay.

[QUOTE="Gears360"]

Face it,

karicha9

I've noticed this too :|

You'll see my friend....when MP3 comes out. 

It kicks dual-analogue's arse at FPS, it just just needs a good game behind it.tomarlyn

Haha, you're funny! 

[QUOTE="karicha9"][QUOTE="Gears360"]

Face it,

Shadow_op

I've noticed this too :|

You'll see my friend....when MP3 comes out.

Yeah because there are soooooo many ant-wii threads these days, as opposed to all those stupid pro-ps3 threads:roll: 

[QUOTE="Gears360"]

Face it,

karicha9

Yep and no surprise there always right. 

[QUOTE="karicha9"][QUOTE="Gears360"]

Face it,

CHRIS_K_UK

Yep and no surprise there always right.

[QUOTE="Shadow_op"][QUOTE="karicha9"][QUOTE="Gears360"]

Face it,

SpaceDragonMan

I've noticed this too :|

You'll see my friend....when MP3 comes out.

Yeah because there are soooooo many ant-wii threads these days, as opposed to all those stupid pro-ps3 threads:roll:

What goes around comes around.  You seem to forget cows like Deadman, McDonaldsGuy, Yo Foo, TwinBlade, and currently people like PS3FTW and DualShocking. You act as if cows weren't bashing the Wii with ridiculous topics too. At least sales are facts and not debatable.

 

 

Face it, we all thought that this thing was going to have 1:1 movement for complex motions and skills in most of its games

 

remember when it was first unveiled? the speculation? "ZOMG!!!!! imagine a star wars game with real lightsaber motion!!!"

or red steel, people expected that the swordfighting would require actual skill handling the wiimote-sword to defeat the "higher dificulty enemies due to improved repose time for the player thanks to the wiimote"

or "this will be the ULTIMATE CONTROL for FPS!!!!!"

 

i always thought that thanks to the free movement of the wiimote, games were going to have more complex situations to deal with.....instead..... we got to draw figures in the air to do tricks in ssx blur

truth be told, there's one thing that wiimote does good, AIMING A CURSOR ON THE SCREEN, much better than an analogue, but its something that a mouse has been doing for years , hence nothing that new

 

because dont tell me that swinging the wiimote whatever you like and Link doing the same sword slash in zelda was what you were expecting , a fancy button replacement is not "TEH REVOLUTION IN VIDEOGAMES"

 

what did you expected from wiimote previous to launch? and enough with the "give it time" excuse

Gears360

1. it does have 1:1 movement, look at Wii baseball and warioware.

2. LOL, using Red Steel as an example when everybody knows it was rushed.

3. Ever heard of MP:3? That already has good FPS controls and i'm talking about an early build from september.

4.Why would it get complex? It's supposed to get simpler. Also how do you expect casuals and Non-gamers to play with complex control schemes.

5. A mouse type control has never been brought to a console before, that is something new

6.Zelda controls were literally tacked on for Wii launch.

7. "give it time" is not an excuse, it's a fact, ever bought a system at launch before? compare those games to the ones 3-5 years down the line.

The Wiimote is capable of 1:1 motion detection it's just that no developer has yet figured out how to put it into a game properly.