What do you believe to be a reasonable price and power level for NX?

So, I'm seeing a lot of people complaining about the rumors, saying that it needs to be much more powerful than PS4 or Nintendo has failed hard. However, I don't know how many of you have considered cost in that equation. Butm why would that even be necessary? It's been three years, so new technology should make it possible to blow PS4 out of the water for the same price, shouldn't it? Or not. I won't add anything more yet though. Just tell me what you think.

The ideal would be PS4.5, $399.

I will accept, but be unhappy about, PS4, $299.

$350 but it's hard to see that as a possibility with Wii U still being $300. I'd say $400 with a bit more power than Xbone and a lot less than PS4.

350 and stronger than ps4(doesnt have to double it) and I'm fine with it, 400 would be a bit too much for a Nintendo console I think

... I don't think you realize how close PS4 and XB1 are. Hell, XB1 actually has a faster CPU.

That might be right too. Can Nintendo get away with charging that much?

350 and being more powerful than xbone/ps4 could still work, 400 would be pushing it, 350 and being equal/less than ps4 would be hard as well. Ofc most of the Ninty fans buy it regardless but this is about expanding the userbase, have to make it attractive to masses. There's still more people who own x360/ps3 but dont have xbone/ps4 and they might look to upgrade

I think they need to hit the magic price of $299. Be more powerful then PS4 and cheaper, Force Sony to price drop again. Then by time Sony releases a new PS4 revision, it will be too late, hype would be too big. Sacrifices would have to be made to get such a cheap and powerful console, no room for gimmicks like Harddrives, discs drives, blu ray drives, expensive controllers, no lan, no usb ports, no sd card slots, etc.

No way IMO. which is what i feel a lot of people miss here. Another big thing: Why would someone who already owns a PS4 or XB1 pick NX over the upgraded version of what they already own? After all, they can just just trade in their current hardware and get it for much cheaper than NX while keeping all of their current games and losing nothing beyond the time it takes to reinstall games. IMO, slightly but noticeably faster (at least enough for completely stable framerates in games where PS4 has dips) than PS4 at the same price (or at least no more than $350 since PS4 will be $300 by then) has the largest target audience. Cheap enough that people looking at Nintendo games will consider it, powerful enough that those same people will buy at least single-player third-party games on it. Online games would be more difficult not because of Nintendo having bad online, but because all of your friends already have PS4 or XB1 and you'll want to play with them.

Basically, launching a system mid-generation has a lot of issues and there's realistically nothing they could do to dominate the market at this point. What they can do, however, is design the NX software and software development platform with the future in mind. This, I believe, is what Nintendo was talking about when they said that they wanted future platforms to be "like siblings." Think of it similar to Windows 10 or mobile OSes; constantly evolving, compatible with more forms of hardware, scalable. This means that NX's "successor" won't just have BC; it'll be able to play NX games natively and Nintendo will be able to continue to support the console to some degree 5 years from now even if they release a next-gen upgrade in 3.

350$ would be good.

@techhog89: You dont necessarily want them to buy NX instead of an upgrade. You kinda want them to try NX before an upgrade. If you wait till after, it will be harder to get them to switch. Then you want them to buy more Nintendo games then the competitors, it doesnt matter if they still buy Playstation or Xbox One, as long as they buy more Nintendo games.

You want them to think, NX is cool, ill buy one to go along with my PC. Then before they know it, boom, they get hooked on that Nintendo gold. Its true releasing a console mid gen is bad. But in Nintendo's case, its good. Nintendo is tired of leading the industry only to see its competitors coping their implementations. Nintendo now wants to follow the leaders of the gaming industry.

Nintendo release NX in 2016. Then PS5 release in 2020 and Nintendo release in 2022. Nintendo just wants to release after the competition now. Also 3DS is getting old and Wii U was not as successful as they hoped, so they have a perfect advantage to launch so early. Some even go as far to say that Nintendo planned it all along by releasing the N3DS and Wii U in some grand conspiracy to release after the competition. I say they be cray, cray.

I agree, which is why I think price matters more than power. I'll be buying NX to go along with my PC (likely even hooked up to my monitor), so I'd really just like something with current-gen power for $300 more than something with gen 8.5 power for $400. That's just me though.

Also, this might sound weird, but I actually don't want Nintendo to sell more than 30 million consoles again. That puts them in a position where they're successful and third-parties can't simply ignore them, but they still need to try hard to maintain that success.

$400 with something like a 7970 power wise which would be about 50% faster what ps4 has and with Amd moving to 14-16nm for their new GPU's power consumption shouldnt be a problem

The issue is that 14nm might be too new for a 2016 console. Yields may need more time to improve.

@techhog89: Thats how i am, i dont want nothing as powerful or expensive as my PC. My PC does so much and is used so often that i dont mind spending extra money on parts. I also can do it in pieces and dont have to upgrade all at once.

Nintendos in a hard spot with what their next move is. People want so much from them, but they cant do it all. Which direction they decide to go, whether they try to be a budget machine and not worry about big budget multiplats, or do they give more power for those who want multiplats but trim its features to make it affordable, or do they go all out and copy Sony and Microsoft by building an expensive machine that would rival the PS5 and Xbox Two.

isnt supposed to be released in 2017 though ? Besides AMD will release new GPU's based on 14nm this year so i still think is a possibility

Has to be more powerful than ps4, otherwise it may fail. Price point at the same as what the ps4 launched at would be considered acceptable.

I don't trust those rumors at all. There's no way Nintendo launches a console outside of the holiday season, and there's no way it's not coming until November 2017 unless there are more unannounced Wii U games than we realize. As for AMD, you should wait to see the price and performance of those GPUs, and even then that doesn't guarantee that there will be enough for NX. Nintendo has to compete with those same AMD GPUs as well as Apple, Samsung (though Samsung is the one making it...), Sony and Microsoft for that capacity. Honestly, I don't think even Sony and Microsoft are in a good position for 14nm this year. That's why I think the PS4k and XB1+ will be Spring 2017 launches. Since they're just minor upgrades, hitting in time for the holiday rush doesn't matter as much. Plus, Sony isn't going to want to launch two expensive products at the same time.

I'm not completely ruling 14nm out, but I don't see it happening. On top of everything I just mentioned, it goes against Nintendo's philosophy of using proven technology.

How much more powerful?

Really? I think they are in a tough spot as their last 2 consoles have been a lot cheaper than Sony and MS, and now they might be more? Be interesting to see the consumer reaction.

R9 380x power for around $350.

I think $300 would be the right price.

Anything over $400 is death, but Nintendo could enter anywhere below that tier. Depending on specs and functionality, my ideal would be the lower end since I don't anticipate the device being good for much beyond Nintendo's 1st party

$249 is the sweetspot, but Nintendo never have reasonable prices

Pretty much this. I think it's time for Nintendo to acquire state of the art technology and no price higher then $499. At least.

Reasonable price? Nintendo has painted themselves as an exclusive box, a machine to buy only for Nintendo games. I'm hard pressed to imagine anyone could easily justify more than $300 (at most) for such a privilege. If you look at the other consoles in terms of third party availability and overall software variance, the value doesn't weigh in Nintendo's favor. Sony and MS can afford to charge more, Nintendo can't. All their own doing, but no sympathy here. They think third parties are to be subordinate, I'm personally glad to see those third parties to tell such arrogance to **** off.

@techhog89: enough so that there is a noticable real world difference. Around the difference between xbox1 and ps4 at least (which isn't much)

Would the gpu power comparible to a 970 be too expensive?

All of this is assuming the NX doesn't have third party support, however.

Nintendo needs to stop playing a gen behind. If they make it the same power or just a little bit better than a PS4 then they're already ~3 years late to the party.

At least this time, if they make it a good deal better than a PS4 but not a full gen leap then it'll turn out better. I don't know why they keep thinking they'll have third party support when their console is significantly weaker.

I like the idea of the Nintendo NX but I'm not holding my breath after they let me down with the Wii U.

@thehig1: I think 970 level is way out of reach it could someway be potential if Nintendo got Polaris chips from AMD but even then it's a stretch with price/power draw

270X power maybe.

@howmakewood: they could go with that kind of power and sell the console at a loss, however that's a huge gamble and not Nintendo like at all.

Eh... It it's more powerful, I'd say the difference would be a bit smaller. That difference is around 20% in terms of GPU power (though XB1 has a memory bottleneck), while I'd expect NX to only be around 10% faster than PS4 if it is faster.

Completely out of the question. Polaris should make it possible, though I'd still expect such a console to cost around $450. I'm not at all confident that even the PS4k will be that powerful. That's roughly 2.8x as powerful as PS4, and rumors don't indicate it being that high.

This is the best I expect. If it were launching in November 2017, I'd say that 290-level is possible

The power draw is the bigger issue. It would require a large, power-hungry console. It would also need a much faster CPU and faster VRAM.

So... I know that they usually start designing the next console 5 years or so before it gets released to the public. Like a lot of things are decided upon years before a console's release. Is it even possible that the NX or the PS 4.5 (which will probably be called the PS 4k?) or the XB 1.5 use a Polaris or Pascal chip? I would think they decide on those things at least a year before hardware production especially with them always modifying the hardware to their liking, and production is going to start pretty soon. I really hope any of them can take advantage of the P-chips but that's not going to happen is it?

It's launching mid-gen and it isn't coming off a successful predecessor, so the console needs to be cheap as hell for it to have any chance of somewhat succeeding.

I'm expecting PS4 level hardware at $299.99, but Nintendo should realistically price at $249.99.

It really depends on what it can do. Is it really a portable system that also plugs into your TV? If so, my "acceptable" power level is much less than the current gen consoles. If it's a standard console, then something similar to Xbone/PS4 is the minimum acceptable rate. In terms of pricing, nothing over $550. Ideally around $400 depending on the tech they use.

Why would the NX cost more than the PS4 if its less powerful? Nobody would buy it at that price.

It's not going to be a hybrid. Nintendo denied it, and no believable rumor has implied it. Also, $550 (or even $500) would result in a worse flop than Virtual Boy no matter what the hardware is lol

$299, as powerful as an Xbox One. The price is only as reasonable as their ability to support it with first party content and third party exclusives. Being as how I've felt they pretty much abandoned the Wii U after 2014 and have coasting ever since with mediocrity which the utter Nintendo fanboys give them a free pass over, I'll be less inclined to get an NX for a while, especially if they're launch killer app is LoZ then I can just get that for Wii U, and if they just re-release Wii U games on NX I'll just keep them on Wii U, and if they're gonna focus on third party multiplats I'll just get them on Xbox One or PS4.

Above PS4 @ 299. Must have BC with WiiU.

It's simple, the NX is going to be another 1st party driven Nintendo console so the price needs to be on the lower end.

If Nintendo wants to push the NX as a true secondary box then they should price the NX at $249.99 and just keep it at that price for the majority of its life span. The average gamer who is semi interested in Nintendo games isn't going to fork over $350 - $400 just so they can play Nintendo games.

$400-$450 :P

LMAO, good one.

Of course, but would the promise of third party support change perceived value based on past precedent in terms of third party success on Nintendo platforms? Even if Nintendo and all third parties swore in unison kumbaya around the campfire about a proliferation of forthcoming support, who would (at this point) believe it? The value of Nintendo's systems is fighting out of the gate against a perception that Nintendo has sown throughout the past in failure to get third parties to be truly relevant on their platform. That is going to hold detrimental bearing when people determine how much a Nintendo console is worth to them.

Its Nuttendo they are never cheap...just look at Wii U price. :P

I still can't believe they launched that console at $350. It is literally a glorified 360 with a Fischer Price Tablet.

These are all mutually exclusive. Especially Wii U BC, which is going to be hard to achieve while migrating to a new chipset to ensure the console is actually powerful this time, and also keeping the console cheap.

Fair enough. On my part, I think I will be able to determine the quality of third party support for the NX once it is announced- I was pretty sure the Wii U's third party support would not last when it was announced, and I think I had similar feelings about the Wii as well. If I have similar reservations about the NX, I guess I'll have reason to assume the system is likely to be a Nintendo first party only system.

Nintendo has denied a lot of things that are in fact true. So that's nothing really to go by.

In terms of pricing, that's my personal range. In terms of what beneficial for the company, who knows. It really depends on what's in the box.