What do you like and dislike about each console?

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#1 NocturnalDemon
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PS3 likes: the future games, free online, Home, PS1/2 backwards compatability, standard hdd, it's shiny black color, Blu-Ray IF it wins

PS3 dislikes: $600, the overpriced Sixaxis, few great games out right now, the online isn't as good as XBL, Blu-Ray IF it fails

360 likes: the great games, good online service, comfortable controller

360 dislikes: hardware quality, the $400 price given the risk of hardware failure, nothing new about the controller, it doesn't play DVD movies out of the box, it's noisy, overpriced accessories including controller and hdd

Wii likes: the controller, the vc, gc backwards compatability, the ease of use

Wii dislikes: small internal memory, graphically weak, stale as dirt franchises from Nintendo, no M titles from Nintendo, Wiimote requires AAs, doesn't play DVD movies at all, no great games out right now, few great games in the future, Wiimote loses signal if you are within 3 feet of the tv, the VC controller's design sucks, everything about it seems a little overpriced for what you get

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#2 Lilac_Benjie
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PS3

Like: It's shiny.

Dislike: Form, lack of games or announced exclusives that interest me other than MGS4.

 

Xbox360

Like: Game library. Form. Controller is mega comfortable.

Dislike: Very little actually.

 

Wii

Like: Everything. I love what Nintendo are doing.

Dislike: How long it has taken third parties to adopt. 

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Wii - VC, 1st party games, too many exclusives to count, BUT the friend codes are a letdown

XBox 360 - Great controller, great online, decent lineup, BUT online isn't free, and there isn't AS MUCH variety in games.

PS3 - It's black (lol), has some exclusives that I really want, free online, BUT it's price makes it out of the question.

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wii pros best price console cheaper games new way to play downloads on vc are cool free online in future most family friendly its for everyone . cons weak hard ware not as many good looking games not many many m games 360 good graphics good adult line up good online alot of things about the system make it feel old with the core there are alot of extras needed. new 360 makes people who got the system early feel riped off . not many family games . ps3 best media system can be used as pc get blu ray movies nice built in memory good future line up most powerful console . expensive not many games out now without HD tv it can be kinda lame .
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ps3 likes: my favorite game franchises, comes with rechargable controllers, free online, blu-ray player, 60gig hdd

ps3 dislikes: pricetag, no custom soundtracks(fixable though)

360 likes: a lil cheaper than ps3, a few interesting exclusives, finally getting dmc

360 dislikes: no rechargable controllers out of box, pay for online, most exclusives dont interest me, need buy peripherals to play movies EDIT: hardware reliability(how could i forget?)

wii likes: cheap, vc, nintendo 1st party titles

wii dislikes: no rechargable controllers out of box, inferior graphics, not enough good games, nobody has really used wiimote well yet, poor online strategy

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#6 SpruceCaboose
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PS3

Like: Some of its games, Blu-Ray.

Dislike: I don't have one yet, its cost (see first dislike)

 

360

Like: Its games, XBL

Dislike: Red Ring (twice :cry: ), paying for XBL.

 

Wii

Like: Fun, easy gameplay

Dislike: No games that appeal to my adult side yet.

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PS3 Likes: It's the best looking system ever created. It's getting FFXIII and MGS4. Socom 4 maybe? Comes with built in WiFi. Most powerful system on the market. Those are the reasons I've chosen PS3. 

PS3 Dislikes: It's expensive. 

 

X Box 360: X Box Live seems nice. It's cheaper than PS3, it has the Project Gotham Racing series

X Box 360 Dislikes: Too many shooters, the hardware sux, not too many video games interest me. X Box Live is not free.

 

Wii Likes: Nintendo 1st Party titles, virtual console

Wii Dislikes: The games have lackluster graphics, third party is milking the non-gamers and ignorant casuals and they know they can keep doing this.  

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PS3- media center functionality, blu ray player, upcoming games, free on line, wifi, silent when on, "future proof", overall appearance, extensive PS1/PS2 compatiability

ps3 dislikes- no must haves available as of now, rumble-less controller

 

360- library of available games, upcoming release, rumble controller, live, 200 cheaper than competito

360 dislikes- faulty hardware, no motion sensing controller, online not free, appearance, disc tray.

 

wii- motion sensing, price tag, upcoming releases, potential, appearance, size, GC library, use of GCN remotes, flagships titles

wii dislikes- weak hardware, gimmicky games as of now, poor franchise showings, buying attachments for remotes, it may become dated faster than the 360 or PS3

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#9 MikeE21286
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PS3

Likes:

Quiet, Blu-Ray Inherent, Built-in Wifi, Future Titles, Free PSN/Home, Graphics, Large HDD, Free Demos, Life-cycle of Console

Dislikes:
Price (guess that was non-issue cuz I own one), Blu-Ray Inherent (if it loses somehow), Lack of Rumble, No Custom Soundtracks (waiting for a patch :evil: ), Lack of SixAxis innovation thus far

360

Likes: 

Rumble Controller, Library (+Future Titles), XBL, Graphics,Built in HDD, CUstom Soundtracks, Free Demos, Life-cycle of Console

Dislikes:

Noisy (i.e. reliability), Paying for XBL, No Built-in Wifi

Wii

Likes:

Quiet, Cheap, Controller, Nintendo Games, Built in Wifi

Dislikes:

No HD, Graphics, No Online, Lack of Future AAA Titles and 3rd Party Support, Library, No Built in HDD, No Free Demos, Lack of Wii-mote innovation thus far, Life-Cycle of console

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PS3 likes

  • Blu ray
  • "teh potential"
  • Linux
  • free online
  • Convience, everything you need is there(wi-fi, blu ray, online, charge kit)

PS3 dislikes

  • $600
  • No rumble
  • Multiplats seem to be crap on it

360 likes

  • Games(Halo baby!!!)
  • XBL(besides cost)

360 dislikes

  • Elite(early adopter here who was screwed) Premium my @$$
  • add on's
  • disk tray WTF? 2006 Hello!!!
  • Crap Hardware
  • play and charge kit sold seperate
  • $50 for online

Wii likes

  • SSBB

Wii dislikes

  • Disgrace to the gaming industry
  • $250 for a remodeled GC w/ a remote
  • wii mote is not fun nor revolutionary imo(Yes I have played one)
  • Same 1st party games I've been playing for over 15 years
  • Having to witness this catastrophy after the all mighty N64, which owned!!!

 

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xbox 360

likes- quality online, best games, graphics

disliskes- not much, maybe the xbl soct 

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PS3 likes

  • Blu ray
  • "teh potential"
  • Linux
  • free online
  • Convience, everything you need is there(wi-fi, blu ray, online, charge kit)

PS3 dislikes

  • $600
  • No rumble
  • Multiplats seem to be crap on it

360 likes

  • Games(Halo baby!!!)
  • XBL(besides cost)

360 dislikes

  • Elite(early adopter here who was screwed) Premium my @$$
  • add on's
  • disk tray WTF? 2006 Hello!!!
  • Crap Hardware
  • play and charge kit sold seperate
  • $50 for online

Wii likes

  • SSBB

Wii dislikes

  • Disgrace to the gaming industry
  • $250 for a remodeled GC w/ a remote
  • wii mote is not fun nor revolutionary imo(Yes I have played one)
  • Same 1st party games I've been playing for over 15 years
  • Having to witness this catastrophy after the all mighty N64, which owned!!!

 

CB4McGusto

 

Disgrace to the gaming industry? What do you mean? Nintendo is making gaming more popular than it ever has been.

As for the 1st party titles, ya, I can understand. Super Mario Galaxy looks like it plays just like Super Mario World from 15 years ago. Metroid Prime..oh, ya...the series hasn't changed much from Super Metroid either. :roll:

 /sarcasm

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#13 NocturnalDemon
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[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

PS3 likes

  • Blu ray
  • "teh potential"
  • Linux
  • free online
  • Convience, everything you need is there(wi-fi, blu ray, online, charge kit)

PS3 dislikes

  • $600
  • No rumble
  • Multiplats seem to be crap on it

360 likes

  • Games(Halo baby!!!)
  • XBL(besides cost)

360 dislikes

  • Elite(early adopter here who was screwed) Premium my @$$
  • add on's
  • disk tray WTF? 2006 Hello!!!
  • Crap Hardware
  • play and charge kit sold seperate
  • $50 for online

Wii likes

  • SSBB

Wii dislikes

  • Disgrace to the gaming industry
  • $250 for a remodeled GC w/ a remote
  • wii mote is not fun nor revolutionary imo(Yes I have played one)
  • Same 1st party games I've been playing for over 15 years
  • Having to witness this catastrophy after the all mighty N64, which owned!!!

 

majadamus

 

Disgrace to the gaming industry? What do you mean? Nintendo is making gaming more popular than it ever has been.

As for the 1st party titles, ya, I can understand. Super Mario Galaxy looks like it plays just like Super Mario World from 15 years ago. Metroid Prime..oh, ya...the series hasn't changed much from Super Metroid either. :roll:

/sarcasm

Well, I partially agree with him.  The Wii is NOT bringing gaming forward.  HOWEVER, it is bringing in new gamers which is never a bad thing :) 

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PS3

Likes-Backward compatibility, Couple of truly great titles, Wi-fi

Dislikes-Nowhere near enough titles worth playing if you already own the 360 versions. 

X-Box 360

Likes-Great game library, greatest controller ever 

Dislikes-Not fully backward compatible

Wii

Likes-I can play Resident Evil 4 on it as well as my other GC titles.

Dislikes-That retarded controller, blah graphics and bad games. 

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Well, I partially agree with him. The Wii is NOT bringing gaming forward. HOWEVER, it is bringing in new gamers which is never a bad thing :)

NocturnalDemon
With that said.  Can everyone admit that the Playstation did nothing to bring gaming forward, but just brought new gamers to the market?
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#17 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"]

Well, I partially agree with him. The Wii is NOT bringing gaming forward. HOWEVER, it is bringing in new gamers which is never a bad thing :)

TheOneMan

With that said. Can everyone admit that the Playstation did nothing to bring gaming forward, but just brought new gamers to the market?

The Playstation introduced the CD format as standard in the gaming inudstry.  Introduced Dual Analog sticks, controllers with built-in rumble, and saw the debut of acclaimed IPs such as........Residnet Evil, Tekken, Gran Turismo,Tony Hawk among others.

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#18 NocturnalDemon
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[QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"]

Well, I partially agree with him. The Wii is NOT bringing gaming forward. HOWEVER, it is bringing in new gamers which is never a bad thing :)

TheOneMan

With that said. Can everyone admit that the Playstation did nothing to bring gaming forward, but just brought new gamers to the market?

Games moved forward artistically, but not much else.  So, I partially agree with you as well. 

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[QUOTE="TheOneMan"][QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"]

Well, I partially agree with him. The Wii is NOT bringing gaming forward. HOWEVER, it is bringing in new gamers which is never a bad thing :)

MikeE21286

With that said. Can everyone admit that the Playstation did nothing to bring gaming forward, but just brought new gamers to the market?

The Playstation introduced the CD format as standard in the gaming inudstry. Introduced Dual Analog sticks, controllers with built-in rumble, and saw the debut of acclaimed IPs such as........Residnet Evil, Tekken, Gran Turismo,Tony Hawk among others.

CD was done before the Playstation.  Analog was done before the Playstation.  Rumble was done before Playstation.  Most of those things the PS "introduced" had already existed, but the Playstation just improved upon them.  It's similar to what the Wii is doing.  Motion controls have already been done before, but not to the degree the Wii is doing it.  Also, I don't think the introduction of new IPs is really bringing gaming forward.
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#20 gamenux
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I will cut the B.S. and point out the most like and most dislike.....

PS3 Like: The playstation brand.  (if the ps3 is anything like the ps2 and psx, this will be awesome too)
PS3 Dislike: price

360 Like: best online feature.
360 Dislike: Overheating or the possible red ring of death issue anything now. (Warranty required.)

Wii Like: Less expensive compare to 360 and ps3.
Wii Dislike: weak GPU.

 

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#21 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="TheOneMan"][QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"]

Well, I partially agree with him. The Wii is NOT bringing gaming forward. HOWEVER, it is bringing in new gamers which is never a bad thing :)

TheOneMan

With that said. Can everyone admit that the Playstation did nothing to bring gaming forward, but just brought new gamers to the market?

The Playstation introduced the CD format as standard in the gaming inudstry. Introduced Dual Analog sticks, controllers with built-in rumble, and saw the debut of acclaimed IPs such as........Residnet Evil, Tekken, Gran Turismo,Tony Hawk among others.

CD was done before the Playstation. Analog was done before the Playstation. Rumble was done before Playstation. Most of those things the PS "introduced" had already existed, but the Playstation just improved upon them. It's similar to what the Wii is doing. Motion controls have already been done before, but not to the degree the Wii is doing it. Also, I don't think the introduction of new IPs is really bringing gaming forward.

Ok............

1.  I never said PS1 introduced using CDs.  I said it made it standard (Remember the FFVII disaster N64 had because they didn't use CDs....therefore CDs became standard)

2. PS DID have the first Dual Analog Controller for consoles

3. Integrated Rumble was Done First by the Dual Shock

4.  How is introducing new IPs not brining gaming forward.  What do you do with all those big machines you got back there but play great games on them.  I mean New IPs are one of the big things that make great consoles when you go back and look at them. 

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PS3 likes: the future games, free online, Home, PS1/2 backwards compatability, standard hdd, it's shiny black color, Blu-Ray IF it wins

PS3 dislikes: $600, the overpriced Sixaxis (the thing is worth $30), few great games out right now, the online isn't as good as XBL, Blu-Ray IF it fails

360 likes: the great games, good online service, comfortable controller

360 dislikes: hardware quality, the $400 price given the risk of hardware failure, nothing new about the controller, it doesn't play DVD movies out of the box, it's noisy

Wii likes: the controller, the vc, gc backwards compatability, the ease of use

Wii dislikes: small internal memory, graphically weak, stale as dirt franchises from Nintendo, no M titles from Nintendo, Wiimote requires AAs, doesn't play DVD movies at all, no great games out right now, few great games in the future, Wiimote loses signal if you are within 3 feet of the tv, the VC controller's design sucks, everything about it seems a little overpriced for what you get

NocturnalDemon
on the 360 note it can play DVDs out of the box not HD DVDs and also to add all of them are good jsut wii graphics probs 360 come on microsoft fix these problems and last ps3 price and get me some game
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#23 joeblak
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PS3

Dislike - Blu-Ray, Line-up, Controller, Online Service, Price

Like- .......

360

Dislike- Over-priced accessories

Like- XBL, games, controller

Wii

Like- Controller, potential for innovation

Dislike- Online Service, Graphics 

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[QUOTE="majadamus"][QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

PS3 likes

  • Blu ray
  • "teh potential"
  • Linux
  • free online
  • Convience, everything you need is there(wi-fi, blu ray, online, charge kit)

PS3 dislikes

  • $600
  • No rumble
  • Multiplats seem to be crap on it

360 likes

  • Games(Halo baby!!!)
  • XBL(besides cost)

360 dislikes

  • Elite(early adopter here who was screwed) Premium my @$$
  • add on's
  • disk tray WTF? 2006 Hello!!!
  • Crap Hardware
  • play and charge kit sold seperate
  • $50 for online

Wii likes

  • SSBB

Wii dislikes

  • Disgrace to the gaming industry
  • $250 for a remodeled GC w/ a remote
  • wii mote is not fun nor revolutionary imo(Yes I have played one)
  • Same 1st party games I've been playing for over 15 years
  • Having to witness this catastrophy after the all mighty N64, which owned!!!

 

NocturnalDemon

 

Disgrace to the gaming industry? What do you mean? Nintendo is making gaming more popular than it ever has been.

As for the 1st party titles, ya, I can understand. Super Mario Galaxy looks like it plays just like Super Mario World from 15 years ago. Metroid Prime..oh, ya...the series hasn't changed much from Super Metroid either. :roll:

/sarcasm

Well, I partially agree with him.  The Wii is NOT bringing gaming forward.  HOWEVER, it is bringing in new gamers which is never a bad thing :) 


Of course Nintendo isnt bringing gaming forward it only bringing in 30%+ non gamers into the industry. Of course its not bringing gaming forward its only trying to change the way we play for future gen......Of course nintendo isnt bringing gaming forward.....Nintendo has just been sitting on their aas for the past 20 years and magically makin themselves the most popular gaming company in the world.:roll: Oh in case u havent noticed(other then the sarcasm) you just got OWNED
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#25 TheOneMan
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[QUOTE="TheOneMan"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="TheOneMan"][QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"]

Well, I partially agree with him. The Wii is NOT bringing gaming forward. HOWEVER, it is bringing in new gamers which is never a bad thing :)

MikeE21286

With that said. Can everyone admit that the Playstation did nothing to bring gaming forward, but just brought new gamers to the market?

The Playstation introduced the CD format as standard in the gaming inudstry. Introduced Dual Analog sticks, controllers with built-in rumble, and saw the debut of acclaimed IPs such as........Residnet Evil, Tekken, Gran Turismo,Tony Hawk among others.

CD was done before the Playstation. Analog was done before the Playstation. Rumble was done before Playstation. Most of those things the PS "introduced" had already existed, but the Playstation just improved upon them. It's similar to what the Wii is doing. Motion controls have already been done before, but not to the degree the Wii is doing it. Also, I don't think the introduction of new IPs is really bringing gaming forward.

Ok............

1. I never said PS1 introduced using CDs. I said it made it standard (Remember the FFVII disaster N64 had because they didn't use CDs....therefore CDs became standard)

2. PS DID have the first Dual Analog Controller for consoles

3. Integrated Rumble was Done First by the Dual Shock

4. How is introducing new IPs not brining gaming forward. What do you do with all those big machines you got back there but play great games on them. I mean New IPs are one of the big things that make great consoles when you go back and look at them.

1. You didn't understand obviously

2.You didn't understand obviously

3. You didn't understand obviously

4. Ok, but in this regard doesn't every console push the industry forward?

Let me ask you this.  Do you think the Wii is bringing the industry forward? 

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#26 gamer0100
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="TheOneMan"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="TheOneMan"][QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"]

Well, I partially agree with him. The Wii is NOT bringing gaming forward. HOWEVER, it is bringing in new gamers which is never a bad thing :)

TheOneMan

With that said. Can everyone admit that the Playstation did nothing to bring gaming forward, but just brought new gamers to the market?

The Playstation introduced the CD format as standard in the gaming inudstry. Introduced Dual Analog sticks, controllers with built-in rumble, and saw the debut of acclaimed IPs such as........Residnet Evil, Tekken, Gran Turismo,Tony Hawk among others.

CD was done before the Playstation. Analog was done before the Playstation. Rumble was done before Playstation. Most of those things the PS "introduced" had already existed, but the Playstation just improved upon them. It's similar to what the Wii is doing. Motion controls have already been done before, but not to the degree the Wii is doing it. Also, I don't think the introduction of new IPs is really bringing gaming forward.

Ok............

1. I never said PS1 introduced using CDs. I said it made it standard (Remember the FFVII disaster N64 had because they didn't use CDs....therefore CDs became standard)

2. PS DID have the first Dual Analog Controller for consoles

3. Integrated Rumble was Done First by the Dual Shock

4. How is introducing new IPs not brining gaming forward. What do you do with all those big machines you got back there but play great games on them. I mean New IPs are one of the big things that make great consoles when you go back and look at them.

1. You didn't understand obviously

2.You didn't understand obviously

3. You didn't understand obviously

4. Ok, but in this regard doesn't every console push the industry forward?

Let me ask you this.  Do you think the Wii is bringing the industry forward? 


If the answer is no im gonna have to repeat myself :)
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#27 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="TheOneMan"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="TheOneMan"][QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"]

Well, I partially agree with him. The Wii is NOT bringing gaming forward. HOWEVER, it is bringing in new gamers which is never a bad thing :)

TheOneMan

With that said. Can everyone admit that the Playstation did nothing to bring gaming forward, but just brought new gamers to the market?

The Playstation introduced the CD format as standard in the gaming inudstry. Introduced Dual Analog sticks, controllers with built-in rumble, and saw the debut of acclaimed IPs such as........Residnet Evil, Tekken, Gran Turismo,Tony Hawk among others.

CD was done before the Playstation. Analog was done before the Playstation. Rumble was done before Playstation. Most of those things the PS "introduced" had already existed, but the Playstation just improved upon them. It's similar to what the Wii is doing. Motion controls have already been done before, but not to the degree the Wii is doing it. Also, I don't think the introduction of new IPs is really bringing gaming forward.

Ok............

1. I never said PS1 introduced using CDs. I said it made it standard (Remember the FFVII disaster N64 had because they didn't use CDs....therefore CDs became standard)

2. PS DID have the first Dual Analog Controller for consoles

3. Integrated Rumble was Done First by the Dual Shock

4. How is introducing new IPs not brining gaming forward. What do you do with all those big machines you got back there but play great games on them. I mean New IPs are one of the big things that make great consoles when you go back and look at them.

1. You didn't understand obviously

2.You didn't understand obviously

3. You didn't understand obviously

4. Ok, but in this regard doesn't every console push the industry forward?

Let me ask you this. Do you think the Wii is bringing the industry forward?

How did I not understand.  I gave a logical retort to your spew of garbage which you put on the computer screen.  And IMO yes, Wii is bringing gaming forward in some way by introducing games to more people.  Now if this makes it to where games become dulled down and don't appeal to me anymore just so they can appeal to everyone else, that's when I have a problem 

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[QUOTE="TheOneMan"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="TheOneMan"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="TheOneMan"][QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"]

Well, I partially agree with him. The Wii is NOT bringing gaming forward. HOWEVER, it is bringing in new gamers which is never a bad thing :)

MikeE21286

With that said. Can everyone admit that the Playstation did nothing to bring gaming forward, but just brought new gamers to the market?

The Playstation introduced the CD format as standard in the gaming inudstry. Introduced Dual Analog sticks, controllers with built-in rumble, and saw the debut of acclaimed IPs such as........Residnet Evil, Tekken, Gran Turismo,Tony Hawk among others.

CD was done before the Playstation. Analog was done before the Playstation. Rumble was done before Playstation. Most of those things the PS "introduced" had already existed, but the Playstation just improved upon them. It's similar to what the Wii is doing. Motion controls have already been done before, but not to the degree the Wii is doing it. Also, I don't think the introduction of new IPs is really bringing gaming forward.

Ok............

1. I never said PS1 introduced using CDs. I said it made it standard (Remember the FFVII disaster N64 had because they didn't use CDs....therefore CDs became standard)

2. PS DID have the first Dual Analog Controller for consoles

3. Integrated Rumble was Done First by the Dual Shock

4. How is introducing new IPs not brining gaming forward. What do you do with all those big machines you got back there but play great games on them. I mean New IPs are one of the big things that make great consoles when you go back and look at them.

1. You didn't understand obviously

2.You didn't understand obviously

3. You didn't understand obviously

4. Ok, but in this regard doesn't every console push the industry forward?

Let me ask you this. Do you think the Wii is bringing the industry forward?

How did I not understand. I gave a logical retort to your spew of garbage which you put on the computer screen. And IMO yes, Wii is bringing gaming forward in some way by introducing games to more people. Now if this makes it to where games become dulled down and don't appeal to me anymore just so they can appeal to everyone else, that's when I have a problem

If you think the Wii is bringing the Wii forward, then this has been entire misconception.  I thought you didn't think the Wii was bringing gaming forward, because if you didn't, you would have to argue that the PS did nothing at all as well.  If you think about it, they are both bringing the industry forward in the same way; by perfecting previous ideas and innovations. 

You also need to do something about that aggresive-ness of yours.  It's not very becoming. 

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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="TheOneMan"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="TheOneMan"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="TheOneMan"][QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"]

Well, I partially agree with him. The Wii is NOT bringing gaming forward. HOWEVER, it is bringing in new gamers which is never a bad thing :)

TheOneMan

With that said. Can everyone admit that the Playstation did nothing to bring gaming forward, but just brought new gamers to the market?

The Playstation introduced the CD format as standard in the gaming inudstry. Introduced Dual Analog sticks, controllers with built-in rumble, and saw the debut of acclaimed IPs such as........Residnet Evil, Tekken, Gran Turismo,Tony Hawk among others.

CD was done before the Playstation. Analog was done before the Playstation. Rumble was done before Playstation. Most of those things the PS "introduced" had already existed, but the Playstation just improved upon them. It's similar to what the Wii is doing. Motion controls have already been done before, but not to the degree the Wii is doing it. Also, I don't think the introduction of new IPs is really bringing gaming forward.

Ok............

1. I never said PS1 introduced using CDs. I said it made it standard (Remember the FFVII disaster N64 had because they didn't use CDs....therefore CDs became standard)

2. PS DID have the first Dual Analog Controller for consoles

3. Integrated Rumble was Done First by the Dual Shock

4. How is introducing new IPs not brining gaming forward. What do you do with all those big machines you got back there but play great games on them. I mean New IPs are one of the big things that make great consoles when you go back and look at them.

1. You didn't understand obviously

2.You didn't understand obviously

3. You didn't understand obviously

4. Ok, but in this regard doesn't every console push the industry forward?

Let me ask you this. Do you think the Wii is bringing the industry forward?

How did I not understand. I gave a logical retort to your spew of garbage which you put on the computer screen. And IMO yes, Wii is bringing gaming forward in some way by introducing games to more people. Now if this makes it to where games become dulled down and don't appeal to me anymore just so they can appeal to everyone else, that's when I have a problem

If you think the Wii is bringing the Wii forward, then this has been entire misconception.  I thought you didn't think the Wii was bringing gaming forward, because if you didn't, you would have to argue that the PS did nothing at all as well.  If you think about it, they are both bringing the industry forward in the same way; by perfecting previous ideas and innovations. 

You also need to do something about that aggresive-ness of yours.  It's not very becoming. 

LOL, ok , sorry about that. I'm normally not like that on here but when people question my inability to understand things I get offensive.  No I was just trying to stick up for the PS1 that's all.

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[QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"][QUOTE="majadamus"][QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

PS3 likes

  • Blu ray
  • "teh potential"
  • Linux
  • free online
  • Convience, everything you need is there(wi-fi, blu ray, online, charge kit)

PS3 dislikes

  • $600
  • No rumble
  • Multiplats seem to be crap on it

360 likes

  • Games(Halo baby!!!)
  • XBL(besides cost)

360 dislikes

  • Elite(early adopter here who was screwed) Premium my @$$
  • add on's
  • disk tray WTF? 2006 Hello!!!
  • Crap Hardware
  • play and charge kit sold seperate
  • $50 for online

Wii likes

  • SSBB

Wii dislikes

  • Disgrace to the gaming industry
  • $250 for a remodeled GC w/ a remote
  • wii mote is not fun nor revolutionary imo(Yes I have played one)
  • Same 1st party games I've been playing for over 15 years
  • Having to witness this catastrophy after the all mighty N64, which owned!!!

 

gamer0100

 

Disgrace to the gaming industry? What do you mean? Nintendo is making gaming more popular than it ever has been.

As for the 1st party titles, ya, I can understand. Super Mario Galaxy looks like it plays just like Super Mario World from 15 years ago. Metroid Prime..oh, ya...the series hasn't changed much from Super Metroid either. :roll:

/sarcasm

Well, I partially agree with him. The Wii is NOT bringing gaming forward. HOWEVER, it is bringing in new gamers which is never a bad thing :)


Of course Nintendo isnt bringing gaming forward it only bringing in 30%+ non gamers into the industry. Of course its not bringing gaming forward its only trying to change the way we play for future gen......Of course nintendo isnt bringing gaming forward.....Nintendo has just been sitting on their aas for the past 20 years and magically makin themselves the most popular gaming company in the world.:roll: Oh in case u havent noticed(other then the sarcasm) you just got OWNED

No, my friend.  You just owned yourself. 

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#31 TheOneMan
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LOL, ok , sorry about that. I'm normally not like that on here but when people question my inability to understand things I get offensive. No I was just trying to stick up for the PS1 that's all.

MikeE21286

It was my fault to begin with really, and I did question your knowledge which was stupid of me.  The Wii and PS is/was very innovative at the time of both their respective releases.  While I think the PS did do a little more, the Wii has done alot.  Even if the innovation that the Wii is bringing fails to catch on, it's a good start to an even better future for gaming.

God I feel like a tool. 

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I agree with your PS3 ones except the Sixaxis - How can a 360 controller be worth $50 plus a $20 recharge kit and the Sixaxis with built in rechargable battery is only worth $30? It's all opinion too... Sixaxis could be built more solid but it's a good improvement over the Dualshock (especially the analog sticks) and imo is far more comfortable than 360's restrictive form fit.

 

PS3 - Amazing future games, standard HDD, open platform accessories (generic HDD upgrades, memory cards, headphones, cameras), Blu-ray playback (virtually guarunteed to beat out HD-DVD at this point), HOME.

Dislike - Price, current lack of good games.

360 - Good games now and some great ones coming, not as expensive to get into, online service is better... although I don't really like online console games.

Dislikes - Dead systems from servere hardware flaws (STILL have not started using cooler chip or quieter DVD drive as promised) make it risky investment, hideous power brick, lack of future potential, extremely overpriced proprietary accessories (opposite of Sony).

Wii - fun interesting controller.

Dislikes - The overpriced Gamecube generation hardware that serverely limits games. So far all the Wiimote has done is take away gameplay depth with broad movements and waggle crap and has (at least yet) really added anything to gameplay besides a cheap fun gimmick.

 

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I agree with your PS3 ones except the Sixaxis - How can a 360 controller be worth $50 plus a $20 recharge kit and the Sixaxis with built in rechargable battery is only worth $30? It's all opinion too... Sixaxis could be built more solid but it's a good improvement over the Dualshock (especially the analog sticks) and imo is far more comfortable than 360's restrictive form fit.

Lazy_Boy88

Good point.  I should have added the 360's overpriced controller to my list.  I'll do that.  But I do agree that the Sixaxis is a very functional controller. 

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X360 Like: all in one media centre. Music, photos and etc, everything in one. Games are great, no system problems (from my experience), great online community. X360 Dislike: no web browser, XBL is paid (but still worth it) PS3 Like: I can install Linux on it and use it as a very cheap server, Sixaxis is interesting. PS3 Dislike: Bluray, the fact that it's too expensive, and Sony (since they started campaigning for the PS3). Wii Like: Wiimote, small console, very quiet Wii Dislike: Underpowered CPU, RAM and GPU. gnutux
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[QUOTE="gamer0100"][QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"][QUOTE="majadamus"][QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

PS3 likes

  • Blu ray
  • "teh potential"
  • Linux
  • free online
  • Convience, everything you need is there(wi-fi, blu ray, online, charge kit)

PS3 dislikes

  • $600
  • No rumble
  • Multiplats seem to be crap on it

360 likes

  • Games(Halo baby!!!)
  • XBL(besides cost)

360 dislikes

  • Elite(early adopter here who was screwed) Premium my @$$
  • add on's
  • disk tray WTF? 2006 Hello!!!
  • Crap Hardware
  • play and charge kit sold seperate
  • $50 for online

Wii likes

  • SSBB

Wii dislikes

  • Disgrace to the gaming industry
  • $250 for a remodeled GC w/ a remote
  • wii mote is not fun nor revolutionary imo(Yes I have played one)
  • Same 1st party games I've been playing for over 15 years
  • Having to witness this catastrophy after the all mighty N64, which owned!!!

 

NocturnalDemon

 

Disgrace to the gaming industry? What do you mean? Nintendo is making gaming more popular than it ever has been.

As for the 1st party titles, ya, I can understand. Super Mario Galaxy looks like it plays just like Super Mario World from 15 years ago. Metroid Prime..oh, ya...the series hasn't changed much from Super Metroid either. :roll:

/sarcasm

Well, I partially agree with him. The Wii is NOT bringing gaming forward. HOWEVER, it is bringing in new gamers which is never a bad thing :)


Of course Nintendo isnt bringing gaming forward it only bringing in 30%+ non gamers into the industry. Of course its not bringing gaming forward its only trying to change the way we play for future gen......Of course nintendo isnt bringing gaming forward.....Nintendo has just been sitting on their aas for the past 20 years and magically makin themselves the most popular gaming company in the world.:roll: Oh in case u havent noticed(other then the sarcasm) you just got OWNED

No, my friend. You just owned yourself.

 

haha, that was pretty funny. But, I expect the Wii to at least top the SNES in sales at the end of this generation.  

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[QUOTE="gamer0100"][QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"][QUOTE="majadamus"][QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

PS3 likes

  • Blu ray
  • "teh potential"
  • Linux
  • free online
  • Convience, everything you need is there(wi-fi, blu ray, online, charge kit)

PS3 dislikes

  • $600
  • No rumble
  • Multiplats seem to be crap on it

360 likes

  • Games(Halo baby!!!)
  • XBL(besides cost)

360 dislikes

  • Elite(early adopter here who was screwed) Premium my @$$
  • add on's
  • disk tray WTF? 2006 Hello!!!
  • Crap Hardware
  • play and charge kit sold seperate
  • $50 for online

Wii likes

  • SSBB

Wii dislikes

  • Disgrace to the gaming industry
  • $250 for a remodeled GC w/ a remote
  • wii mote is not fun nor revolutionary imo(Yes I have played one)
  • Same 1st party games I've been playing for over 15 years
  • Having to witness this catastrophy after the all mighty N64, which owned!!!

 

NocturnalDemon

 

Disgrace to the gaming industry? What do you mean? Nintendo is making gaming more popular than it ever has been.

As for the 1st party titles, ya, I can understand. Super Mario Galaxy looks like it plays just like Super Mario World from 15 years ago. Metroid Prime..oh, ya...the series hasn't changed much from Super Metroid either. :roll:

/sarcasm

Well, I partially agree with him. The Wii is NOT bringing gaming forward. HOWEVER, it is bringing in new gamers which is never a bad thing :)


Of course Nintendo isnt bringing gaming forward it only bringing in 30%+ non gamers into the industry. Of course its not bringing gaming forward its only trying to change the way we play for future gen......Of course nintendo isnt bringing gaming forward.....Nintendo has just been sitting on their aas for the past 20 years and magically makin themselves the most popular gaming company in the world.:roll: Oh in case u havent noticed(other then the sarcasm) you just got OWNED

No, my friend.  You just owned yourself. 


Im so sure.....wait i just saw that pic....and that supports my point, thanks. They are the ones  bringing more people into the videogame industry.
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[QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"][QUOTE="gamer0100"][QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"][QUOTE="majadamus"][QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

PS3 likes

  • Blu ray
  • "teh potential"
  • Linux
  • free online
  • Convience, everything you need is there(wi-fi, blu ray, online, charge kit)

PS3 dislikes

  • $600
  • No rumble
  • Multiplats seem to be crap on it

360 likes

  • Games(Halo baby!!!)
  • XBL(besides cost)

360 dislikes

  • Elite(early adopter here who was screwed) Premium my @$$
  • add on's
  • disk tray WTF? 2006 Hello!!!
  • Crap Hardware
  • play and charge kit sold seperate
  • $50 for online

Wii likes

  • SSBB

Wii dislikes

  • Disgrace to the gaming industry
  • $250 for a remodeled GC w/ a remote
  • wii mote is not fun nor revolutionary imo(Yes I have played one)
  • Same 1st party games I've been playing for over 15 years
  • Having to witness this catastrophy after the all mighty N64, which owned!!!

 

majadamus

 

Disgrace to the gaming industry? What do you mean? Nintendo is making gaming more popular than it ever has been.

As for the 1st party titles, ya, I can understand. Super Mario Galaxy looks like it plays just like Super Mario World from 15 years ago. Metroid Prime..oh, ya...the series hasn't changed much from Super Metroid either. :roll:

/sarcasm

Well, I partially agree with him. The Wii is NOT bringing gaming forward. HOWEVER, it is bringing in new gamers which is never a bad thing :)


Of course Nintendo isnt bringing gaming forward it only bringing in 30%+ non gamers into the industry. Of course its not bringing gaming forward its only trying to change the way we play for future gen......Of course nintendo isnt bringing gaming forward.....Nintendo has just been sitting on their aas for the past 20 years and magically makin themselves the most popular gaming company in the world.:roll: Oh in case u havent noticed(other then the sarcasm) you just got OWNED

No, my friend. You just owned yourself.

 

haha, that was pretty funny. But, I expect the Wii to at least top the SNES in sales at the end of this generation.

I'm expecting 80 million sold.  The system isn't bad, it's just (for now) not my cup of tea. 

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PS3 likes: the future games, free online, Home, PS1/2 backwards compatability, standard hdd, it's shiny black color, Blu-Ray IF it wins

PS3 dislikes: $600, the overpriced Sixaxis, few great games out right now, the online isn't as good as XBL, Blu-Ray IF it fails

360 likes: the great games, good online service, comfortable controller

360 dislikes: hardware quality, the $400 price given the risk of hardware failure, nothing new about the controller, it doesn't play DVD movies out of the box, it's noisy, overpriced accessories including controller and hdd

Wii likes: the controller, the vc, gc backwards compatability, the ease of use

Wii dislikes: small internal memory, graphically weak, stale as dirt franchises from Nintendo, no M titles from Nintendo, Wiimote requires AAs, doesn't play DVD movies at all, no great games out right now, few great games in the future, Wiimote loses signal if you are within 3 feet of the tv, the VC controller's design sucks, everything about it seems a little overpriced for what you get

NocturnalDemon

well, I would have thrown in my 2 cents worth, but you pretty much covered everything. thanks a lot! :cry:

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[QUOTE="TheOneMan"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="TheOneMan"][QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"]

Well, I partially agree with him. The Wii is NOT bringing gaming forward. HOWEVER, it is bringing in new gamers which is never a bad thing :)

MikeE21286

With that said. Can everyone admit that the Playstation did nothing to bring gaming forward, but just brought new gamers to the market?

The Playstation introduced the CD format as standard in the gaming inudstry. Introduced Dual Analog sticks, controllers with built-in rumble, and saw the debut of acclaimed IPs such as........Residnet Evil, Tekken, Gran Turismo,Tony Hawk among others.

CD was done before the Playstation. Analog was done before the Playstation. Rumble was done before Playstation. Most of those things the PS "introduced" had already existed, but the Playstation just improved upon them. It's similar to what the Wii is doing. Motion controls have already been done before, but not to the degree the Wii is doing it. Also, I don't think the introduction of new IPs is really bringing gaming forward.

Ok............

1. I never said PS1 introduced using CDs. I said it made it standard (Remember the FFVII disaster N64 had because they didn't use CDs....therefore CDs became standard)

2. PS DID have the first Dual Analog Controller for consoles

3. Integrated Rumble was Done First by the Dual Shock

4. How is introducing new IPs not brining gaming forward. What do you do with all those big machines you got back there but play great games on them. I mean New IPs are one of the big things that make great consoles when you go back and look at them.

Actually, they had rumble built-in inside the later PS1 controllers. gnutux
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PS3 Likes - Shiny.

PS3 Dislikes - Price ($1000AU), lack of games - now and into the future, Blu-Ray, fact it's made by Sony.

 

Xbox 360 Likes - Live, good selection of games at the moment, good graphics for the price you pay.

Xbox 360 Dislikes - Loud, large, pay for online.

 

Wii Likes - Price, size, Nintendo games, great games announced for the future, enough games to tide me over now, GC games, VC, online free.

Wii Dislikes - Could be more grapihcal, controller needs rechargable batteries ...  

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PS3

Like: Some of its exclusive titles, Blu-ray, Pretty graphics

Dislike: Price unaffordable for me and i have no HDTV. Lucky for rich people. 

Xbox 360

Like: Online, some of its exclusive titles, Pretty graphics

Dislike: Online not free, the same "dislikes" with the PS3 

Wii

Likes: Affordable, great games, wii mote, everything it offers

Dislikes: Its hardware isnt yet used to the fullest potential especially the wii mote hence there are no many great games as of now.

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ps3

likes: I like the design, the menu interface is pretty nice, motorstorm, VF4, Resistance, free online, able to swap hard drive, potential homebrew.

dislikes: nobody talks durring online matches, too few games I want, sixaxis controler (almost everything about it is pretty bad),  it's sony, $600, slow drive speed (slow loading times), it's big

 

Wii:

likes: design, menu interface, best motion controller, price (sorta)

dislikes: too few good games, lower power specs than I was expecting, no online (yet), not enough wiimote buttons for most games.

 

360:

likes: awesome game library, great controller, steller online, good software/hardware combination

dislikes: expensive hard drive, hardware failures, ugly case design.

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Member since 2007 • 3765 Posts

360

I like: its game lineup, Live

I don't like: the failure rates, the Elite 

PS3

I like: Ninja Gaiden Sigma

I don't like: the price, blu-ray

Wii

I like: that it's attempting to keep casuals interested in games

I don't like: that it has yet to show any eyecandy that the gamecube couldn't handle. 

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PS3- media center functionality, blu ray player, upcoming games, free on line, wifi, silent when on, "future proof", overall appearance, extensive PS1/PS2 compatiability

ps3 dislikes- no must haves available as of now, rumble-less controller

 

360- library of available games, upcoming release, rumble controller, live, 200 cheaper than competito

360 dislikes- faulty hardware, no motion sensing controller, online not free, appearance, disc tray.

 

wii- motion sensing, price tag, upcoming releases, potential, appearance, size, GC library, use of GCN remotes, flagships titles

wii dislikes- weak hardware, gimmicky games as of now, poor franchise showings, buying attachments for remotes, it may become dated faster than the 360 or PS3

MorisUkunRasik

 Why does everyone knock the rumble-less controller?  That annoyed the hell out of me....the first thing I always did with my last gen console/games was turn rumble off.

Anyway, I dont own a 360 or a Wii, though I may eventually get one or the other (probably the Wii for the different games).

I have a PS3 and I like it alot.  Dislikes: price obviously, not much else.

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PS3:

LIKE: great console it has the games that I want.

DISLIKE: it is too expensive.

XBOX360:

LIKE: great console with great games

DISLIKE: it doesn't have the games that I want.

WII:

LIKE: innovative with great games.

DISLIKE: it doesn't have the games that I want.

 

 

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360 - like the games....actually love the games.  I dislike the fact the hardware was put together as cheap as possible, too many defects and no I don't think extending the warranty makes up for it.

PS3 - hmmmm, not much to like about PS3 except Blu-Ray player....although I've not noticed much difference between my DVD player.  I hate the price most of all or the PS3 and the lack of games (although the lack of games is not their fault.....5 months from now if we are in the same place it will be their fault)

Wii - fun factor of party games, 10.  The control scheme gives you a new way to play games and keeps you entertained (for a while anyways).  Bad, worst graphics between all new consoles....heck PS2 games like God of War look better and of course like PS3, it has no games (again, not their fault....5 months from now if we are in the same place it will be their fault)

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[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]

PS3- media center functionality, blu ray player, upcoming games, free on line, wifi, silent when on, "future proof", overall appearance, extensive PS1/PS2 compatiability

ps3 dislikes- no must haves available as of now, rumble-less controller

 

360- library of available games, upcoming release, rumble controller, live, 200 cheaper than competito

360 dislikes- faulty hardware, no motion sensing controller, online not free, appearance, disc tray.

 

wii- motion sensing, price tag, upcoming releases, potential, appearance, size, GC library, use of GCN remotes, flagships titles

wii dislikes- weak hardware, gimmicky games as of now, poor franchise showings, buying attachments for remotes, it may become dated faster than the 360 or PS3

polarguy

Why does everyone knock the rumble-less controller? That annoyed the hell out of me....the first thing I always did with my last gen console/games was turn rumble off.

Because lack of rumble makes the Sixaxis feel cheap.  And the L2/R2 plastic spongey feeling triggers don't help. 

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#48 genfactor
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PS3 likes: Processing power, free online,

PS3 dislikes: Price, no rumble, lack of quality software this year, trying to cram blu-ray down our throats, microtransactions, load time, motion controlers that feels good before and like crap after you play the Wii.

XBOX360 likes: The games are alright, xbox live is industry standard in online, no difference in graphics yet when compared to PS3 games currently availible in stores, the ability to upgrade your hard drive as larger ones become availible, successful in turning games that were once PS3 exclusives into multiplatform tittles,

XBOX360 dislikes: Microtransactions, load time, lack of J-RPGs, lack of platformers

Wii likes: Motion controller, Nintendo franchises, regular VC updates, weather channel, news channel, being able to surf the internet from your TV, constantly adding extra channels, finally having somethin mainstream enough that helps me to share my passion for videogames with my friends and family that don't like videogames,

Wii dislikes: Lack of processing power, inability to meet demand can cause people to loose interest, 15 digit friend codes, not making online mandatory for all 3rd party games, news channel takes too long to load, bandwagon developers punishing Wii with ps2 and gc ports for the next 7 months because they showed up to the party late,