What do you think the price of the PS5 and the Xbox Series X will be?

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Poll What do you think the price of the PS5 and the Xbox Series X will be? (61 votes)

Both will be $499 48%
Both will be $450 3%
Both will be $399 3%
Sony will be more expensive. 2%
Xbox will be more expensive. 44%

Anyone think the price will be higher than $499? I feel like that would be the nail in the coffin for either one, so I'm not including that as a choice. What do you think, SW? What do you expect Sony and MS to charge for their next gen systems? I'm thinking both will clash at $499 and it will be very interesting. But maybe Sony might pull a quick one on MS and go cheaper. Your thoughts?

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I feel like both would be $499.

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I feel it's gonna be both at $499, but Sony may try and squeeze a price advantage.

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#3 Bluestars
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Anaconda £549

Ps5 £499

Lockhart £399

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#4  Edited By Antwan3K
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initially, i was thinking that Sony would come in at $399 with Microsoft aiming to cement the power crown at $499..

But looking at how cutting-edge the SSD is in the PS5, that cannot be a cheap piece of tech and has surely drove the price up.. So with that, i'm predicting that they both will be $499..

Which will create a very favorable environment for Microsoft if they can capitalize on the power narrative.. I'm sure Sony 1st party games will take great advantage of the SSD in some very interesting ways and i'd also wager that load times on the PS5 will be at least twice as fast as the Xbox Series X.. But i'm not sure if we'll see much utilization from mulitplats beyond those faster load times..

which could end up in Digital Foundry headlines showing better overall graphical and framerate performance in games for the Xbox Series X but with the same price tag as the PS5..

at any rate, it's gonna be a great year for game news..

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I really hope they both launch at the same price. Would be interesting.

I still think many people just buy whatever's cheaper, which is why both companies haven't said anything.

I would guess $500

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#6  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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Both will be $499.

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I think both at 499 if this lockhart rumour is true then that might be 399.

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I think both will release $500, Sony probably can't afford to take a loss and rumors said they were struggling to keep PS5 production costs under $450, so a $500 price seems more likely to me. I think MS will price the Series X the same, they might be taking a loss but it's a drop in bucket for them, and since they are a company with significantly less overhead than Sony, that cost would put a dent in their tax liability, and they'd still have billions left over to make their typical acquisitions to write off the rest.

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@davillain- said:

Both will be $499.

add me when you get one of the 2

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I think they will be the same price.

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@lundy86_4 said:

I feel it's gonna be both at $499, but Sony may try and squeeze a price advantage.

Yea, $500 seems fair, but I wonder if $399 is still on the table. It would be a shocker.

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If the PS5 is 399 id be really shocked both to be 499 is probably the best bet.

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I'm guessing ps5 will be $50 cheaper. The odd 825gb ssd size is sony cutting cost down to not go to $499. Series X will be at $499.

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#14  Edited By SecretPolice
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I'll take two please. :P

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#15 pmanden
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500, maybe 600 USD for the xbox.

500 USD for the PS5.

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Pretty sure both will be $500.

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I think PS5 will be about 50 cheaper. The message will be more and better games at a lower price. Though if people are buying on price alone the Series X is a much better deal with Game Pass.

A lower retail price is usually all that registers with people though if it turns out people can't take their digital libraries with them (proper BC for at least the PS4) I expect Sony to lose this gen. Digital matters a lot more now than it did when PS4 and Xbox One launched.

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#18  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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If they are the same price, XSX will gain a lot of ground IMO. Sony needs to be $50 cheaper - and I think that's something they'll wait on an MS anouncement for

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About £100 too much.

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#20 Martin_G_N
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XsX will be $549 to $599. PS5 will be $449.

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I think both will be $499.

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#23  Edited By osan0
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Im thinking 500 for the XsX and 450 for the PS5. i dont think sony can justify charging as much for the PS5. Sure the SSD is faster but that won't be tangible; especially at launch. momentum is critical at launch and is very hard to get once lost (as sony know all to well).

in terms of the BOM there should be less going into each PS5 (smaller SOC, for example) also so they can charge less for it without killing the bank. i dont think the faster SSD costs 50 quid more than MSs system (or if it does then sony have done goofed).

Either/Both may also go for a mobile phone type subscription model (3-4 year contract and get the console for 100-150 maybe). That would be interesting.

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$500 for the Series X and $400 for the PS5.

Sony's primary goal is to get folks from the PS4 to PS5 ASAP and, the best way I see them doing that is with a $400 price tag. I don't think Microsoft is as determined to get folks onto the Series X / S (?) considering they are investing in more platform specific things like XCloud, Gamepass, XBL on PC etc. and can reach more people that way. Sony will have similar invests, I just think we won't see them until 6-12 months post PS5 launch.

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#25 SolidGame_basic
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@Nonstop-Madness said:

$500 for the Series X and $400 for the PS5.

Sony's primary goal is to get folks from the PS4 to PS5 ASAP and, the best way I see them doing that is with a $400 price tag. I don't think Microsoft is as determined to get folks onto the Series X / S (?) considering they are investing in more platform specific things like XCloud, Gamepass, XBL on PC etc. and can reach more people that way. Sony will have similar invests, I just think we won't see them until 6-12 months post PS5 launch.

$400 may be too low for Sony if they want to make a profit.

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I believe both will be $500 to $600 unless one of Sony or MS decide they want to take a loss on HW.

I believe the final BOM on both will be similar. Only question left is if that BOM is at $500 or $600.

BOM is definitely at a minimum of $500 by the time packaging is included which could mean $600 consoles or $500 with a loss.

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@lamprey263 said:

I think both will release $500, Sony probably can't afford to take a loss and rumors said they were struggling to keep PS5 production costs under $450, so a $500 price seems more likely to me. I think MS will price the Series X the same, they might be taking a loss but it's a drop in bucket for them, and since they are a company with significantly less overhead than Sony, that cost would put a dent in their tax liability, and they'd still have billions left over to make their typical acquisitions to write off the rest.

See this is the kind of thing that make me think some people here can't simply use logic.

What were the so call culprids of the price hike for sony?

Nand and DRAM prices,unless you prove to me that the xbox series X doesn't use dram and nand flash that price hike will affect the xbox as well.

What make you think sony can't take a loss? Again with PSN printing money how can't they not?

In fact PSN make them more money than what NIntendo did as a whole.'

I don't see MS exposing its self to loses just because MS has money doesn't mean they will continue to loss it on xbox,and in fact the xbox loss its exclusives to PC and the xbox one will be keep around for that same reason to make some dollars.

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@tormentos said:
@lamprey263 said:

I think both will release $500, Sony probably can't afford to take a loss and rumors said they were struggling to keep PS5 production costs under $450, so a $500 price seems more likely to me. I think MS will price the Series X the same, they might be taking a loss but it's a drop in bucket for them, and since they are a company with significantly less overhead than Sony, that cost would put a dent in their tax liability, and they'd still have billions left over to make their typical acquisitions to write off the rest.

See this is the kind of thing that make me think some people here can't simply use logic.

What were the so call culprids of the price hike for sony?

Nand and DRAM prices,unless you prove to me that the xbox series X doesn't use dram and nand flash that price hike will affect the xbox as well.

What make you think sony can't take a loss? Again with PSN printing money how can't they not?

In fact PSN make them more money than what NIntendo did as a whole.'

I don't see MS exposing its self to loses just because MS has money doesn't mean they will continue to loss it on xbox,and in fact the xbox loss its exclusives to PC and the xbox one will be keep around for that same reason to make some dollars.

Both consoles will come in at $500 with a small loss or $600 with a small profit.

That $450 BOM someone came up with wasn't including packaging, housing and retailer profit. Adding Super high speed SSD's (and the I/O logic to handle them) to these consoles easily adds a good $100. XB1X launched at $500. That PS5 is going to require some good cooling like the XSX if not better. I see the consoles hitting $600 easily if Sony and MS want to make a small profit.

I've got no problem paying $600 because both consoles are going to easily be worth it.

Try buying a PC with similar specs and see how much that costs.

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Both will be $599-$699. I just do see how they could be any cheaper. UNLESS they delay launch to 2021

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I can't see either one selling for less than $599 Canadian to be honest.

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#31  Edited By ronvalencia
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@tormentos said:
@lamprey263 said:

I think both will release $500, Sony probably can't afford to take a loss and rumors said they were struggling to keep PS5 production costs under $450, so a $500 price seems more likely to me. I think MS will price the Series X the same, they might be taking a loss but it's a drop in bucket for them, and since they are a company with significantly less overhead than Sony, that cost would put a dent in their tax liability, and they'd still have billions left over to make their typical acquisitions to write off the rest.

See this is the kind of thing that make me think some people here can't simply use logic.

What were the so call culprids of the price hike for sony?

Nand and DRAM prices,unless you prove to me that the xbox series X doesn't use dram and nand flash that price hike will affect the xbox as well.

What make you think sony can't take a loss? Again with PSN printing money how can't they not?

In fact PSN make them more money than what NIntendo did as a whole.'

I don't see MS exposing its self to loses just because MS has money doesn't mean they will continue to loss it on xbox,and in fact the xbox loss its exclusives to PC and the xbox one will be keep around for that same reason to make some dollars.

PS5 has 8 GDDR6-14000 2GB chips. Actual part numbers are not shown.

XSX has 6 GDDR6-14000 2GB + 4 GDDR6-14000 1GB (cheap) chips. MS made sure higher TFLOPS scaling + extra CPU on the memory bus are factored in.

Both memory module cost is close.

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PS4 has 8 GDDR5-6000 1GB chips. Sony configured these chips to GDDR5-5500.

PS4 Pro has 8 GDDR5-8000 1GB chips. Sony configured these chips to GDDR5-7000. LOL, self gimping LOL. Sony paid for RX-480 level memory chips and gimped it. Sony's conservatism strikes again.

X1X has 12 GDDR5-7000 1GB chips. MS configured these chips to GDDR5-6800. MS running close to the manufacturer's guaranteed limit. MS operates close to a typical PC OEM GPU vendor.

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@xantufrog: Sony was more expensive than Xbox 360 while having worse multiplats. No one cares about unnoticeable differences. Playstation is a bigger brand than Xbox, period.

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@Sagemode87: how does that contradict anything I said? Indeed, the 360 is evidence in favor of my point - that's the closest MS has come in this battle (and indeed the sales numbers became so sketchy towards the end that realistically it wound up being effectively tied sales, give or take a few mill that we can't get firm numbers on from either company)

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$499 for the ps5. $549 for the xsx.

If both are $500, the xsx will seem like such a better deal that its almost like comparing the ps4 to the xbone back in 2014.

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If MS were smart (and they're not) they would wait until the last minute (or wait for Sony) to announce the price, and go low, even if it means they will be losing $100+ per unit because the can afford it, Sony on the other hand can't. That way MS could do to get more consoles into more homes, but MS are too stupid to do that.

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@i_p_daily said:

If MS were smart (and they're not) they would wait until the last minute (or wait for Sony) to announce the price, and go low, even if it means they will be losing $100+ per unit because the can afford it, Sony on the other hand can't. That way MS could do to get more consoles into more homes, but MS are too stupid to do that.

They basically did that with the xbox,double the PS2 power wise and loss 4 billions in the process in just 4 years.

Then they loss 3 billion more on the xbox 360,between the lauch and RROD,there is a point were it doesn't matter if you are made of money,the xbox is a business is not something to make blind fanboys like you happy.

If sony need to take a loss the can take it more now than ever PSN+ is a cass cow.

@goldenelementxl said:

Both will be $599-$699. I just do see how they could be any cheaper. UNLESS they delay launch to 2021

A $600 xbox would be epic you know all the fun i would have here..😂

@ronvalencia said:

PS5 has 8 GDDR6-14000 2GB chips. Actual part numbers are not shown.

XSX has 6 GDDR6-14000 2GB + 4 GDDR6-14000 1GB (cheap) chips. MS made sure higher TFLOPS scaling + extra CPU on the memory bus are factored in.

Both memory module cost is close.

-----------------

PS4 has 8 GDDR5-6000 1GB chips. Sony configured these chips to GDDR5-5500.

PS4 Pro has 8 GDDR5-8000 1GB chips. Sony configured these chips to GDDR5-7000. LOL, self gimping LOL. Sony paid for RX-480 level memory chips and gimped it. Sony's conservatism strikes again.

X1X has 12 GDDR5-7000 1GB chips. MS configured these chips to GDDR5-6800. MS running close to the manufacturer's guaranteed limit. MS operates close to a typical PC OEM GPU vendor.

Bigger GPU faster memory in other words the xbox will cost more is what your saying got it.

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@i_p_daily: PS2 and Xbox was the same price. For most of the gen PS4 and X1 were the same price. When are you guys going to get it through your skulls that Playstation is bigger than Xbox? Both can be the same price and Sony will win because of their track record. The average player doesn't give a crap about negligible differences in games that require microscopes to find. They're going to go where their friends are and where they can play their games from last gen on. Outsold two to one and you guys still try to act like Xbox will outsell Playstation? If it didn't happen 7th gen, it's never happening. Xbox isn't a global brand. Deal with it.

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@tormentos: You gotta love the idiotic "Sony can't take a loss" narrative. It's not like they're a multi billion dollar company or anything. Lems think just because MS has money that will translate to them charging 200 bucks for series X just so fanboys can flex about sales. So annoying lol.

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@tormentos said:
@i_p_daily said:

If MS were smart (and they're not) they would wait until the last minute (or wait for Sony) to announce the price, and go low, even if it means they will be losing $100+ per unit because the can afford it, Sony on the other hand can't. That way MS could do to get more consoles into more homes, but MS are too stupid to do that.

They basically did that with the xbox,double the PS2 power wise and loss 4 billions in the process in just 4 years.

Then they loss 3 billion more on the xbox 360,between the lauch and RROD,there is a point were it doesn't matter if you are made of money,the xbox is a business is not something to make blind fanboys like you happy.

If sony need to take a loss the can take it more now than ever PSN+ is a cass cow.

For starters you don't get the right to call anyone a "blind fanboy"

Secondly, so MS lost all that money and still have billions upon billions more money over Sony, and let's not forget Sony were on their knees when this gen started and were selling of assets like buildings etc to stay afloat, PS+ doesn't make Sony safe from failure again as they have other divisions that the money from PS+ is holding up.

If one company can take a loss on console to get people into their eco system its MS, if MS goes the same price most people won't make the jump as their friends are in Sony's eco system. But if you're more powerful and at a cheaper price (PS4 vs XB1) people will jump and bring friends with them, money talks.

You keep talking about Xbox is a business, well not shit sherlock, but we ALL know money is not in the sale of the console, but the money is in subs, and MS have more options and give a better deal over what Sony offers, so sell your console at a loss to get the people in then sign them up for Gold/Game pass etc.

You should stick to damaging controlling the PS5 and the fact it will never go down to 9.2 TF lol.

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@i_p_daily said:

For starters you don't get the right to call anyone a "blind fanboy"

Secondly, so MS lost all that money and still have billions upon billions more money over Sony, and let's not forget Sony were on their knees when this gen started and were selling of assets like buildings etc to stay afloat, PS+ doesn't make Sony safe from failure again as they have other divisions that the money from PS+ is holding up.

If one company can take a loss on console to get people into their eco system its MS, if MS goes the same price most people won't make the jump as their friends are in Sony's eco system. But if you're more powerful and at a cheaper price (PS4 vs XB1) people will jump and bring friends with them, money talks.

You keep talking about Xbox is a business, well not shit sherlock, but we ALL know money is not in the sale of the console, but the money is in subs, and MS have more options and give a better deal over what Sony offers, so sell your console at a loss to get the people in then sign them up for Gold/Game pass etc.

You should stick to damaging controlling the PS5 and the fact it will never go down to 9.2 TF lol.

Sure i can more than anyone because i am one of the few fanboys here who admit been a blind fanboy and a cow.

Business don't work like this,in fact the xbox launch for $500 with a weaker system,and MS instead of matching the price of the PS4 and leaving KInect in,as an insentive to compete,they took it how to price match sony and still have a weaker unit.

The xbox one X while more powerful than the PS4 Pro came 1 year latter and at $100 more they were not willing to lose money,because it is a business,and they even kill exclusives and move then to PC and some even to switch in search of more money.

Yeah that is not the sony of 2020.

That may work in US outside US there is no warranty,which is why they don't do it,MS simple doesn't want to loose more than it needs to.

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@Sagemode87 said:

@tormentos: You gotta love the idiotic "Sony can't take a loss" narrative. It's not like they're a multi billion dollar company or anything. Lems think just because MS has money that will translate to them charging 200 bucks for series X just so fanboys can flex about sales. So annoying lol.

It remind me on 2012 when they claimed sony could not have a more powerful console than MS because sony was going bankrupt.🤣

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#43 Zero_epyon
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Xbox $499

PS5 $399

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@i_p_daily: PS2 and Xbox was the same price. For most of the gen PS4 and X1 were the same price. When are you guys going to get it through your skulls that Playstation is bigger than Xbox? Both can be the same price and Sony will win because of their track record. The average player doesn't give a crap about negligible differences in games that require microscopes to find. They're going to go where their friends are and where they can play their games from last gen on. Outsold two to one and you guys still try to act like Xbox will outsell Playstation? If it didn't happen 7th gen, it's never happening. Xbox isn't a global brand. Deal with it.

People care about money, and if they see one more powerful and cost less than that's the one they will go for hence where we are today when both the XB1 & PS4 was released.

PlayStation is a bigger brand and how well did that work out last gen when the 360 was cheaper than the PS3? well 360 ate the PS3's lunch well into the gen, and Sony started to catch up when prices fell and it took all gen for Sony to get on equal footing sales wise with the 360, and that was when the PS3 was at its cheapest.

You can't see that money talks and bullshit walks. If both next gen consoles are the same price Sony will win again, there's no doubt about that. but if MS goes cheaper while having a more powerful console, than the only fanboys not seeing reality is you cows.

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@i_p_daily said:

For starters you don't get the right to call anyone a "blind fanboy"

Secondly, so MS lost all that money and still have billions upon billions more money over Sony, and let's not forget Sony were on their knees when this gen started and were selling of assets like buildings etc to stay afloat, PS+ doesn't make Sony safe from failure again as they have other divisions that the money from PS+ is holding up.

If one company can take a loss on console to get people into their eco system its MS, if MS goes the same price most people won't make the jump as their friends are in Sony's eco system. But if you're more powerful and at a cheaper price (PS4 vs XB1) people will jump and bring friends with them, money talks.

You keep talking about Xbox is a business, well not shit sherlock, but we ALL know money is not in the sale of the console, but the money is in subs, and MS have more options and give a better deal over what Sony offers, so sell your console at a loss to get the people in then sign them up for Gold/Game pass etc.

You should stick to damaging controlling the PS5 and the fact it will never go down to 9.2 TF lol.

Sure i can more than anyone because i am one of the few fanboys here who admit been a blind fanboy and a cow.

Business don't work like this,in fact the xbox launch for $500 with a weaker system,and MS instead of matching the price of the PS4 and leaving KInect in,as an insentive to compete,they took it how to price match sony and still have a weaker unit.

The xbox one X while more powerful than the PS4 Pro came 1 year latter and at $100 more they were not willing to lose money,because it is a business,and they even kill exclusives and move then to PC and some even to switch in search of more money.

Yeah that is not the sony of 2020.

That may work in US outside US there is no warranty,which is why they don't do it,MS simple doesn't want to loose more than it needs to.

Business does work like that, both MS/Sony don't make money on the consoles the real money is in the subs.

Also if you would have read and comprehended the FIRST line in my FIRST post that you quoted you wouldn't have needed to reply to me. Get a clue.

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@tormentos said:
@i_p_daily said:

If MS were smart (and they're not) they would wait until the last minute (or wait for Sony) to announce the price, and go low, even if it means they will be losing $100+ per unit because the can afford it, Sony on the other hand can't. That way MS could do to get more consoles into more homes, but MS are too stupid to do that.

They basically did that with the xbox,double the PS2 power wise and loss 4 billions in the process in just 4 years.

Then they loss 3 billion more on the xbox 360,between the lauch and RROD,there is a point were it doesn't matter if you are made of money,the xbox is a business is not something to make blind fanboys like you happy.

If sony need to take a loss the can take it more now than ever PSN+ is a cass cow.

@goldenelementxl said:

Both will be $599-$699. I just do see how they could be any cheaper. UNLESS they delay launch to 2021

A $600 xbox would be epic you know all the fun i would have here..😂

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PS5 has 8 GDDR6-14000 2GB chips. Actual part numbers are not shown.

XSX has 6 GDDR6-14000 2GB + 4 GDDR6-14000 1GB (cheap) chips. MS made sure higher TFLOPS scaling + extra CPU on the memory bus are factored in.

Both memory module cost is close.

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PS4 has 8 GDDR5-6000 1GB chips. Sony configured these chips to GDDR5-5500.

PS4 Pro has 8 GDDR5-8000 1GB chips. Sony configured these chips to GDDR5-7000. LOL, self gimping LOL. Sony paid for RX-480 level memory chips and gimped it. Sony's conservatism strikes again.

X1X has 12 GDDR5-7000 1GB chips. MS configured these chips to GDDR5-6800. MS running close to the manufacturer's guaranteed limit. MS operates close to a typical PC OEM GPU vendor.

Bigger GPU faster memory in other words the xbox will cost more is what your saying got it.

Sony picked the natural successor to R7-265 and RX-470 which is expected RX-6700 level SKU which is RDNA 2's replacement for RX 5700.

R7-265 was 3rd tier GCN under 2nd tier Tahiti/Tonga and 1st tier Hawaii GCNs.

RX-470 was 3rd tier RX GCN under 2nd tier X1X 44 CU and 1st tier RX Vega 56/64 GCNs. No R9-390X 44CU Polaris/Vega replacement on PC. Vega 48 acted like R9-390X Polaris/Vega replacement, but it's limited to the Apple Mac market.

MS selected RDNA 2 at CU 56 SKU level with active 52 CU being the retail version.

RX-6700 may be 3rd tier RDNA 2 under 2nd tier 56 CU RDNA 2 and 1st tier 80 CU RDNA 2.

Throughout AMD's GPU generations, Sony's selections are fairly consistent from PS4.

Lisa Su promised 1st gen NAVIs to be refreshed in H2 2020

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My guess is both systems launch at $499. MS has the slight horsepower edge, but all that custom SSD and audio stuff Sony is doing won't come cheap either.

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@i_p_daily said:

People care about money, and if they see one more powerful and cost less than that's the one they will go for hence where we are today when both the XB1 & PS4 was released.

PlayStation is a bigger brand and how well did that work out last gen when the 360 was cheaper than the PS3? well 360 ate the PS3's lunch well into the gen, and Sony started to catch up when prices fell and it took all gen for Sony to get on equal footing sales wise with the 360, and that was when the PS3 was at its cheapest.

You can't see that money talks and bullshit walks. If both next gen consoles are the same price Sony will win again, there's no doubt about that. but if MS goes cheaper while having a more powerful console, than the only fanboys not seeing reality is you cows.

The PS3 outsold the xbox 360 yearly pretty much since go.

What happen on the 360 gen will not happen again,another thing missing from the 360 gen is RROD,the xbox is now reliable so there are not millions of re buy units.

The 360 was cheaper and didn't win the generation,the wii won and was weaker as hell,yeah you forgot that one was there as well.

@i_p_daily said:

Business does work like that, both MS/Sony don't make money on the consoles the real money is in the subs.

Also if you would have read and comprehended the FIRST line in my FIRST post that you quoted you wouldn't have needed to reply to me. Get a clue.

NO which is why the xbox one was $500 and the xbox one X was $500 as well,the cheapest i see the series X is $500 but it could cost more.

Non of the 2 consoles really loss noney on hardware this gen.

Again MS is not here to please you and waste billions.

@ronvalencia said:

Sony picked the natural successor to R7-265 and RX-470 which is expected RX-6700 level SKU which is RDNA 2's replacement for RX 5700.

R7-265 was 3rd tier GCN under 2nd tier Tahiti/Tonga and 1st tier Hawaii GCNs.

RX-470 was 3rd tier RX GCN under 2nd tier X1X 44 CU and 1st tier RX Vega 56/64 GCNs. No R9-390X 44CU Polaris/Vega replacement on PC. Vega 48 acted like R9-390X Polaris/Vega replacement, but it's limited to the Apple Mac market.

MS selected RDNA 2 at CU 56 SKU level with active 52 CU being the retail version.

RX-6700 may be 3rd tier RDNA 2 under 2nd tier 56 CU RDNA 2 and 1st tier 80 CU RDNA 2.

Throughout AMD's GPU generations, Sony's selections are fairly consistent from PS4.

Lisa Su promised 1st gen NAVIs to be refreshed in H2 2020

So bigger GPU faster memory the series X will cost more?

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@tormentos: You're a lost cause.

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#50 SolidGame_basic
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Wow, a lot of you think the Xbox will be more expensive. Will this end up being a repeat of this gen?