I know what 1st party means and 3rd party.
What does 2nd mean
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but seriously i just googled 'second party games' and the very first result explains it all perfectly.
take insomniac games as an example. they only develop for sony platforms but they aren't owned by Sony. so they aren't 1st party, and they aren't 3rd party because they don't make games for other systems. so they are 2nd party.
[QUOTE="Nubiitking"]Halo is second party. Mainly because it was bought by microsoft, but microsoft isn't making the games.ALTAIR360halo is not 2nd party the dev is. halo is owned by MS not by bungie. Actually it is owned by Bungie. Who knows, I may be mistaken. But I saw it in the Halo 3 title screen and on the website.
A 2nd party is pretty much a 3rd party obligated to work with a 1st party.Devil-ItachiOr it could be a company that is under contract to make games for a certain 1st Party. 3rd Party working on a 1st Party Franchise. Company that is partially owned by a 1st Party Developer but still has some freedom they just can't make games on opposing consoles.
[QUOTE="ALTAIR360"][QUOTE="Nubiitking"]Halo is second party. Mainly because it was bought by microsoft, but microsoft isn't making the games.Nubiitkinghalo is not 2nd party the dev is. halo is owned by MS not by bungie. Actually it is owned by Bungie. Who knows, I may be mistaken. But I saw it in the Halo 3 title screen and on the website.Bungie did own the Halo franchise but when Bungie wanted their Independence Microsoft let them go but Microsoft said that they had to give Microsoft the Halo franchise.
because their free to make that choiceSo why do 3rd party companys only develop for some consoles, like media molecule?
(No one has to answer that)
Mokajing
i always though a second party was a developer which was owned almost in its entirety by a manufacturer and thus can/will only make games for that manufacturers platform. EG rare or retro studios. a first party would then be a studio that was created by the manufacturer. its internal. and a 3rd party is a developer not owned by one of the manufacturers (in any significant way anyway).osan0In some cases but Retro Studios and Rare is First Party they are owned in full if Half or Most of the company was owned by a 1st Party developer then they would be 2nd Party.
My understanding of a second party developer is that they are not wholly owned by a hardware maker but they make games exclusively for one of the hardware makers. For example, Rare was a second party developer for Nintendo before they were purchased by Microsoft and now, Bungie is a second party developer for Microsoft.
My understanding of a second party developer is that they are not wholly owned by a hardware maker but they make games exclusively for one of the hardware makers. For example, Rare was a second party developer for Nintendo before they were purchased by Microsoft and now, Bungie is a second party developer for Microsoft.
The_Game21x
So what are developers who are obligated to a first party due to an IP own by that first party but still makes games for rival companies of that first party? ie. Epic Games, bound to Microsoft with Gears of War but can still make games like Unreal Tournament for the ps3. Is Epic Games a 3rd or 2nd party dev?
They're owned by Sony now aren't they?So why do 3rd party companys only develop for some consoles, like media molecule?
(No one has to answer that)
Mokajing
[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
My understanding of a second party developer is that they are not wholly owned by a hardware maker but they make games exclusively for one of the hardware makers. For example, Rare was a second party developer for Nintendo before they were purchased by Microsoft and now, Bungie is a second party developer for Microsoft.
So what are developers who are obligated to a first party due to an IP own by that first party but still makes games for rival companies of that first party? ie. Epic Games, bound to Microsoft with Gears of War but can still make games like Unreal Tournament for the ps3. Is Epic Games a 3rd or 2nd party dev?
Epic owns the Gears IP. they are 3rd party.[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
My understanding of a second party developer is that they are not wholly owned by a hardware maker but they make games exclusively for one of the hardware makers. For example, Rare was a second party developer for Nintendo before they were purchased by Microsoft and now, Bungie is a second party developer for Microsoft.
jhcho2
So what are developers who are obligated to a first party due to an IP own by that first party but still makes games for rival companies of that first party? ie. Epic Games, bound to Microsoft with Gears of War but can still make games like Unreal Tournament for the ps3. Is Epic Games a 3rd or 2nd party dev?
thanks for reviving a dead thread[QUOTE="jhcho2"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
My understanding of a second party developer is that they are not wholly owned by a hardware maker but they make games exclusively for one of the hardware makers. For example, Rare was a second party developer for Nintendo before they were purchased by Microsoft and now, Bungie is a second party developer for Microsoft.
cainetao11
So what are developers who are obligated to a first party due to an IP own by that first party but still makes games for rival companies of that first party? ie. Epic Games, bound to Microsoft with Gears of War but can still make games like Unreal Tournament for the ps3. Is Epic Games a 3rd or 2nd party dev?
Epic owns the Gears IP. they are 3rd party.True, but-
Microsoft publishes them exclusively and owns the "underlying technology".
So why do 3rd party companys only develop for some consoles, like media molecule?
(No one has to answer that)
They're owned by Sony now aren't they? They are, making them a 1st party studio now.[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="jhcho2"]
So what are developers who are obligated to a first party due to an IP own by that first party but still makes games for rival companies of that first party? ie. Epic Games, bound to Microsoft with Gears of War but can still make games like Unreal Tournament for the ps3. Is Epic Games a 3rd or 2nd party dev?
Epic owns the Gears IP. they are 3rd party.True, but-
Microsoft publishes them exclusively and owns the "underlying technology".
help me out, is the underlying tech the 360 platform? It's definately not the engine.Please Log In to post.
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