What does Sony have to do realistically?

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#1 Walker34
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At this E3, to get the ps3 moving in a positive direction? I honestly don't think it's catching the other two consoles at this point, but what would they have to do or show to change that? Even a price drop at this point i don't think would do. My opinion is what Microsoft showed was enough where even if the ps3 drops it's price now it's not catching them. They need more than that now.

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#3 NetYankEagle
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halo 4 exclusive
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#4 Walker34
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I think the PS3 is doing fine. Glad your opinion means nothing.

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Stop taking thngs personally. I was asking a question because I just would like to know what people think they need to do. I wasn't saying it's garbage. I just don't see it catching the other consoles as is. I was just wondering what they need to show.

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#5 SilverChimera
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I think the PS3 is doing fine. Glad your opinion means nothing.

Ragnarok1051
agreed. sony seems to be doing fine with the ps3. a price cut would help in bring profitability. even if the ps3 doesn't outsell the competition, it can still 'win' the 'war' because of its unmatched lineup of games.
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#6 nmaharg
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Show the exclusives they have. All I really want.
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#7 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

I think the PS3 is doing fine. Glad your opinion means nothing.

SilverChimera
agreed. sony seems to be doing fine with the ps3. a price cut would help in bring profitability. even if the ps3 doesn't outsell the competition, it can still 'win' the 'war' because of its unmatched lineup of games.

It already lost. PC always wins.
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#8 xbox360isgr8t
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no price drop = fail
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#9 Mr_Apple_Soup
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Show the exclusives they have. All I really want.nmaharg

this. honestly, not to call out the 360 or anything, they don't need to show add-ons or peripherals for a good e3, they need some games

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#10 slvrraven9
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apparently from the feedback here on sw based on the reactions from the MS confrence they need to show ENTIRELY new games that not even Jesus has heard of...
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#11 PSdual_wielder
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no price drop = failxbox360isgr8t

360 had no price drop, therefore it failed

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#12 xbox360isgr8t
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[QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"]no price drop = failPSdual_wielder

360 had no price drop, therefore it failed

360 doesnt need a price drop. there doing fine. sony could really use a price drop whether its 50 or 100 dollars
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#13 ren3890
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Wait people are actualy still hoping ps3 will win this gen, its not happening didn't happen for the OG xbox and its not happening for ps3. too late too make a comeback and compete, all they can do is ride along.

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#14 MyNameisaMeme
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Sony could have a great showing at E3. There are so many things they could show. I'm just excited to see what they've got.

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#15 kentaro22
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1. Drop price 2. Drop price 3. Drop price 4. and...... Drop price
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#16 Filthybastrd
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I for one was rather underwhelmed by MS' conference so not that much.

PC wins at the end of the day.

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#17 ToScA-
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More on Heavy Rain. God of War 3 More on Uncharted 2 A few new IPs A price drop. This is all I require.
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#18 xbox360isgr8t
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I for one was rather underwhelmed by MS' conference so not that much.

PC wins at the end of the day.

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i think that its just because most of it was leaked and or rumored within the last few months or just this morning like halo reach, shadow complex and joy ride. also we had seen stuff on the camera what like a couple months ago. ms just seems to either not mind there stuff getting leaked or they really do suck at keeping it tight lipped
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#19 ren3890
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1. Drop price 2. Drop price 3. Drop price 4. and...... Drop pricekentaro22

That would hurt sony more than help.

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#20 jdt532
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Unveil Rockstar's next franchise that's PS3 exclusive and is totally new and NOT L.A. Noir. Announce MGS5 as PS3 exclusive, talk about the next Team Ico game, GOW3, Uncharted 2, GT5, Heavy Rain and finish by unveiling this game. Oh and a $100 price drop to seal the deal.

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#21 dream431ca
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Sony just needs to release more great exclusives, which they are, so Sony is doing fine.

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#22 chrisp003
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for me all i want is psn cards in canada the video store in canada n more ps1/2 games on psn

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#23 ren3890
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You guys do know sony is barely making any profit on the ps3 already right? a price drop would kill them.

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#24 surrealnumber5
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lots of old square and capcom RPG games to be out in the next 3 months and exclusive. breath of fire, chrono trigger 2, secret of ______, PE3, and FFT that and a $120 cut
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#25 xbox360isgr8t
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You guys do know sony is barely making any profit on the ps3 already right? a price drop would kill them.

ren3890
probably but not dropping the price is gonna hurt them still. its a lose lose for them. they are really in it for the long haul with the ps3.
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apparently from the feedback here on sw based on the reactions from the MS confrence they need to show ENTIRELY new games that not even Jesus has heard of...slvrraven9
So true. If there isn't at least 4 games I never heard of in the Sony conference I'm giving my 80 gig to charity!! The levels put on by people are ridiculous. Sony will show it's great games. That's all I want from them. Not blu ray movies, not trying to catch up with Live or Wii, just their awesome games. Then I win. That's who I root for.
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apparently from the feedback here on sw based on the reactions from the MS confrence they need to show ENTIRELY new games that not even Jesus has heard of...slvrraven9
Lol. You would think MS had the best E3 in history with the way their fans are going crazy over a camera,facebook,another Halo,etc..

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#28 ren3890
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[QUOTE="ren3890"]

You guys do know sony is barely making any profit on the ps3 already right? a price drop would kill them.

xbox360isgr8t

probably but not dropping the price is gonna hurt them still. its a lose lose for them. they are really in it for the long haul with the ps3.

Yep, they made a mistake this gen and are suffering for it, if they drop the price they lose, if they don't drop it they still lose. they're stuck

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#29 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"][QUOTE="ren3890"]

You guys do know sony is barely making any profit on the ps3 already right? a price drop would kill them.

ren3890

probably but not dropping the price is gonna hurt them still. its a lose lose for them. they are really in it for the long haul with the ps3.

Yep, they made a mistake this gen and are suffering for it, if they drop the price they lose, if they don't drop it they still lose. they're stuck

Lose what? Sony is doing fine at the moment.

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#30 xbox360isgr8t
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[QUOTE="ren3890"]

[QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"] probably but not dropping the price is gonna hurt them still. its a lose lose for them. they are really in it for the long haul with the ps3.dream431ca

Yep, they made a mistake this gen and are suffering for it, if they drop the price they lose, if they don't drop it they still lose. they're stuck

Lose what? Sony is doing fine at the moment.

there in last place. when it comes to the ps3 vs 360 vs wii. there behind the ds when it comes to the psp. there not gonna catch up. they could maybe finish second but at this point not likely. i dont see finishing last being a good thing imo.
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#31 ren3890
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[QUOTE="ren3890"]

[QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"] probably but not dropping the price is gonna hurt them still. its a lose lose for them. they are really in it for the long haul with the ps3.dream431ca

Yep, they made a mistake this gen and are suffering for it, if they drop the price they lose, if they don't drop it they still lose. they're stuck

Lose what? Sony is doing fine at the moment.

What are you talking about ? were not talking about games here we're talking about profit, sony lost more money on the ps3 than they gained on the PS2 and continue to.

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#32 whatisazerg
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Wow.... did I fall through a time warp and end up back in 2006? All these defensive cows, with their damage control, has a very familiar feeling.

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#33 Tony-Baxter
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PRICE DROP AND EXCLUSIVES.
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#34 munu9
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I think one thing they should really try to do is secure a well known xbox exclusive. Like maybe a halo, any halo. Or something like that.
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#35 blank33
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A new MGS, Final Fantasy information, more exclusives and they're fine. If they want people crying from joy, FF7 remake. But I think they're doing alright now; the games on the horizon that I already know about are promising enough.

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#36 ren3890
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I think one thing they should really try to do is secure a well known xbox exclusive. Like maybe a halo, any halo. Or something like that. munu9

........MS owns rights to the Halo franchise though

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#37 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="ren3890"]

Yep, they made a mistake this gen and are suffering for it, if they drop the price they lose, if they don't drop it they still lose. they're stuck

ren3890

Lose what? Sony is doing fine at the moment.

What are you talking about ? were not talking about games here we're talking about profit, sony lost more money on the ps3 than they gained on the PS2 and continue to.

Well, that doesn't seem to stop the great games coming out for the PS3, which is the important thing.

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#39 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="ren3890"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Lose what? Sony is doing fine at the moment.

dream431ca

What are you talking about ? were not talking about games here we're talking about profit, sony lost more money on the ps3 than they gained on the PS2 and continue to.

Well, that doesn't seem to stop the great games coming out for the PS3, which is the important thing.

Yet
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#40 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"][QUOTE="ren3890"]

You guys do know sony is barely making any profit on the ps3 already right? a price drop would kill them.

ren3890

probably but not dropping the price is gonna hurt them still. its a lose lose for them. they are really in it for the long haul with the ps3.

Yep, they made a mistake this gen and are suffering for it, if they drop the price they lose, if they don't drop it they still lose. they're stuck

if they released a ps3 slim, that would help because it probably cuts down production costs.
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[QUOTE="munu9"]I think one thing they should really try to do is secure a well known xbox exclusive. Like maybe a halo, any halo. Or something like that. ren3890

........Doesn't MS own rights to the Halo franchise though

Yeah that's a problem. It's like trying to get GoW from Sony. MGS was a matter of time. It doesn't make sense to not be multiplat financially for Konami. Sony will show well tomorrow. And Red Steel 2 has me wanting to buy the Wii again.
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#42 kentaro22
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[QUOTE="kentaro22"]1. Drop price 2. Drop price 3. Drop price 4. and...... Drop priceren3890

That would hurt sony more than help.

Then the're screwed. But to be more specific about the price drop, they need to cut prices in production to be able to do the same to the consumer.
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#43 simslifer
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At this E3, to get the ps3 moving in a positive direction? I honestly don't think it's catching the other two consoles at this point, but what would they have to do or show to change that? Even a price drop at this point i don't think would do. My opinion is what Microsoft showed was enough where even if the ps3 drops it's price now it's not catching them. They need more than that now.

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quite honestly what microsoft showed was luckluster just anouncing more multiplatforms and more halo spinoffs and one new exclusive that crackdown 2 which may go multiplatform the ones who need saving is the xbox 360 the PS3 is already having a good year witth more exclusives than you can count and at E3 sony will anounce more. :O putting it mildly PS3 is Pwning the competition
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#44 Elite-Realist
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i want a cheap psp go less than 199 euro. that will win the show for me.
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#45 Elite-Realist
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or no price drop for console but price drop for games and downloadable ps3 games.
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#46 ren3890
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[QUOTE="ren3890"]

[QUOTE="kentaro22"]1. Drop price 2. Drop price 3. Drop price 4. and...... Drop pricekentaro22

That would hurt sony more than help.

Then the're screwed. But to be more specific about the price drop, they need to cut prices in production to be able to do the same to the consumer.

Sony been screwed this gen, but hey atleast they didn't go under yet !

From my understanding ALL of the money sony made off the PS2 went into developing the ps3, and they lost it, sony loses money with each console made, said this in another thread but the only way a price cut will come is if they take away some hardware in the ps3 they can't price cut without doing that because they'd lose even more money. so in return the consumers will get a 'dumbed down' version of ps3

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At this E3, to get the ps3 moving in a positive direction? I honestly don't think it's catching the other two consoles at this point, but what would they have to do or show to change that? Even a price drop at this point i don't think would do. My opinion is what Microsoft showed was enough where even if the ps3 drops it's price now it's not catching them. They need more than that now.

Walker34

Price drop is the only thing going to get the PS3 moving.....faster. It already has good games, so lack of games isn't the issue.

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#48 whatisazerg
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[QUOTE="Walker34"]

At this E3, to get the ps3 moving in a positive direction? I honestly don't think it's catching the other two consoles at this point, but what would they have to do or show to change that? Even a price drop at this point i don't think would do. My opinion is what Microsoft showed was enough where even if the ps3 drops it's price now it's not catching them. They need more than that now.

simslifer

quite honestly what microsoft showed was luckluster just anouncing more multiplatforms and more halo spinoffs and one new exclusive that crackdown 2 which may go multiplatform the ones who need saving is the xbox 360 the PS3 is already having a good year witth more exclusives than you can count and E# they will anounce more :O

yeah very lackluster.... only

HALO: ODST, announced HALO: REACH

LEFT 4 DEAD 2 (not on PS3 or Wii, MS is not competing against Windows)

Splintercell Conviction

Alan Wake (MS still not competing against Windows)

Forza 3 (GT5 what?)

Crackdown 2

Metal Gear Solid series going to 360...

EPIC's XBLA game (looks fricken sweet)

tons more Live features to make it just that much further ahead of PSN

OH YEAH and a motion sensing camera that makes the current motion sensing tech look likea "beeper" compared to an "iphone"

Oh and NONE absolutely ZERO % of MS's COnference was spent talking about sales figures / stats..... it was all gaming goodness.

It's hilarious to see all the scared Cows running around here in Damage Control mode.... I can't wait til Sony has their showing with their already announced games... 1 or 2 exclusives that we didn't know about and sales figures, more talk about Blu-Ray or some crap....

No way Sony can top MS now.... it's just not going to happen.

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#49 FatalDomain
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="ren3890"]

Yep, they made a mistake this gen and are suffering for it, if they drop the price they lose, if they don't drop it they still lose. they're stuck

ren3890

Lose what? Sony is doing fine at the moment.

What are you talking about ? were not talking about games here we're talking about profit, sony lost more money on the ps3 than they gained on the PS2 and continue to.

Dont worry about trying to explain this with simple concept of finance...The Sony clan has been claiming "everythang is just fine" in Sony-land since launch... Game On...
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#50 simslifer
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HALO: ODST, announced HALO: REACH _____ we knew about Halo ODST already LEFT 4 DEAD 2 (not on PS3 or Wii, MS is not competing against Windows) _____it's not exclusive it's on PC Splintercell Conviction _____ Not Exclusive PC Alan Wake (MS still not competing against Windows) ______ Not Exclusive PC what is it to understand PS2 is not competing against PS3 and yet MLB the Show as you guys say is not exclusive. Forza 3 (GT5 what?) _________ We already knew this and GT5 will outsell this unknown franchise. Crackdown 2 __________ I said this Metal Gear Solid series going to 360..._______________ Multiplatform EPIC's XBLA game (looks fricken sweet) _____ lol xblive arcade OH YEAH and a motion sensing camera that makes the current motion sensing tech look likea "beeper" compared to an "iphone"____________Yawn motion sensing No way Sony can top MS now.... it's just not going to happen._________LOL sony can come at E3 with no new games anounced and they will already beat xbox 360 with the games we already know about face the fact the conference was an epic fail ask microsoft to deliver exclusives for you guys.