What does Sony need to do to get back on top next gen?

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#1 MercenaryMafia
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With this gen coming to a close, What does Sony need to do to regain the dominance they once had with the PS2?

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#2 themajormayor
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What do you mean get "back"? They're already at the top
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#3 funsohng
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I think all of the above. Including the last choice.
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#4 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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1 and 3 are necessary and non negotiable. 2 and 4 would be added bonuses.
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#5 crimsonman1245
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1.Ditch cell tech

2.Make a basic model for $400

3.Come out before Microsoft

4.Have heavy hitters from your first party ready within its first year.

5.Continue to improve PSN and PS+.

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#6 HarlockJC
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They have to come up with a good sales gimmick. They have to use motion controls with their next console, but at the same time the hardest part for some is coming up with something original when they do it.
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#7 funsohng
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They have to come up with a good sales gimmick. They have to use motion controls with their next console, but at the same time the hardest part for some is coming up with something original when they do it. HarlockJC
Don't you think that's a bit too much for Sony?
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#8 Elutheria
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No pointless gimmicks that force up the cost of hardware, don't try to be Nintendo. Focus on producing a console that gives a lot of bang for your buck hardware wise. Nintendo are pursuing the family friendly gimmick route, Microsoft are trying to muscle in on that market, there will be a gap in the market for a (relatively) hardcore games console if any of the manufacturers have the gumption to take it.
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#9 DarkLink77
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Make a miracle.

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#10 Pikminmaniac
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Making a console that's easy to develop for is easily the most important thing Sony can so right now. They lost so many 3rd party exclusives on the PS3 because it was difficult to work with.

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#11 finalstar2007
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Dosent matter what they do, im on board for sure!.. this gen tought me to never waste my time and money with Microsoft or Nintendo.

all i want from sony is to relese the next gen system at a price of $350 and below, anything higher than $350 is wait for price drop to me.

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#12 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]They have to come up with a good sales gimmick. They have to use motion controls with their next console, but at the same time the hardest part for some is coming up with something original when they do it. funsohng
Don't you think that's a bit too much for Sony?

You know it really is. Sony even outside of gaming has only been a follower, without coming out with something new I don't see have they move past PS4.
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#13 tagyhag
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They HAVE to have a decent launch price. Which I think they will, they were extremely cocky (Considering they believed people would get 2 jobs just to buy a PS3. Not everyone is a cow Kaz) due to the PS2 and I'm sure now they're going to be more grounded. That and Bluray players are cheaper now.
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#14 HarlockJC
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No pointless gimmicks that force up the cost of hardware, don't try to be Nintendo. Focus on producing a console that gives a lot of bang for your buck hardware wise. Nintendo are pursuing the family friendly gimmick route, Microsoft are trying to muscle in on that market, there will be a gap in the market for a (relatively) hardcore games console if any of the manufacturers have the gumption to take it.Elutheria
Hardware means very little in overall console sales. It's what new that will appeal to the masses. As gaming PC get cheaper, companies like Sony will have something that will spark gamer to relook into their console.
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#15 Thefatness16
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Your poll, plus better marketing.

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[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"]They have to come up with a good sales gimmick. They have to use motion controls with their next console, but at the same time the hardest part for some is coming up with something original when they do it. HarlockJC
Don't you think that's a bit too much for Sony?

You know it really is. Sony even outside of gaming has only been a follower, without coming out with something new I don't see have they move past PS4.

Walkman yo but that's 20 years ago, so I guess yeah. Even blu-ray wasn't Sony-only either.
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#17 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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Cut the shenanigans that Microsoft wants to pull. Launch a new console that's easy to develop for, and dosn't try to force motions controls where buttons work better.
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#18 JohnF111
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Release on time, don't get bigheaded saying that next gen starts when they say so, better price and easy development while having BETTER ADVERTISING!! That's one thing I don't understand about Sony, they don't advertise in the USA because it's their least popular region but it's their least popular region because they have bad support, poor infrastructure and don't advertise much.... Get it together Sony.
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#19 PSP107
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Full BC Dont have an entry price of $499-$599 Countinue strong 1st party support including new IPs Improved non video game features(music, movies, Internet etc. Faster XMB
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#20 PSP107
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Release on time, don't get bigheaded saying that next gen starts when they say so, better price and easy development while having BETTER ADVERTISING!! That's one thing I don't understand about Sony, they don't advertise in the USA because it's their least popular region but it's their least popular region because they have bad support, poor infrastructure and don't advertise much.... Get it together Sony.JohnF111
Yeah but I do wonder how much they save for not advertising heavily.
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#21 Silverbond
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Two hundred ninety nine US dollars.

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#22 k2theswiss
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some how MS go out of business would literally be only way sony ever sale as many consoles like ps2...
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#23 Jonwh18
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well to get back on top they would have to beat nintendo :| ...... like that'll happen :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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#24 caseypayne69
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1.Ditch cell tech

2.Make a basic model for $400

3.Come out before Microsoft

4.Have heavy hitters from your first party ready within its first year.

5.Continue to improve PSN and PS+.

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I agree and no gimmicks. And I'd pay for cross game chat. Drop Home and make XBL characters.
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#25 TheDidact
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1) Advertise 2) Reasonable launch price (no more than $399) 3) At least one BIG exclusive per year (it worked this gen, 2008:MGS4, 2009: U2, 2010: GOW3/GT5, 2011: U3, however 2012: Nothing) 4) Heavily Advertise that BIG exclusive (CGI Commercials, Doritos/Mountain Dew, tons of stuff on the PS Store and Home) 5) Announce a game when it's ready to be announced (KZ2 and GT5 were announced too early, TLG and FFVS still haven't released) 6) Launch earlier than MS, before the Holiday Season 7) Third Party Partnerships (like MS and CoD)
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#26 ShadowDeathX
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Sony will never be back on top unless they have a miracle. Even if they hit all the right spots, getting back on top is super hard.

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#27 YearoftheSnake5
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A good launch price would do them wonders. Most people already know about the brand, but $599.99 at the PS3 launch really killed Sony's initial momentum. Couple that with solid software from the get-go, and they'll have a winner. Improving on their services and making the console itself easier to develop for would certainly help, too.

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#28 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Not completely suck

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#29 StrongDeadlift
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What do you mean get "back"? They're already at the topthemajormayor

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#30 Cherokee_Jack
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Price and friendly hardware is about it.

The Sony of today is capable of giving Microsoft real competition right from the start. They won't need to make any fancy maneuvers to keep up.

But that's close competition I'm talking about. Being "on top" is different. PS2 era Sony is something that will probably never happen again, not even to Microsoft.

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#31 game_masta14
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You pretty much said it all in your list. That's exactly what they need to do, though I'm not buying the next Xbox.
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#32 DarkLink77
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Price and friendly hardware is about it.

The Sony of today is capable of giving Microsoft real competition right from the start. They won't need to make any fancy maneuvers to keep up.

But that's close competition I'm talking about. Being "on top" is different. PS2 era Sony is something that will probably never happen again, not even to Microsoft.

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To be fair to everyone, PS2-era Sony had very little to do with PS2-era Sony and everything to do with everyone else in the industry.
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#33 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

Price and friendly hardware is about it.

The Sony of today is capable of giving Microsoft real competition right from the start. They won't need to make any fancy maneuvers to keep up.

But that's close competition I'm talking about. Being "on top" is different. PS2 era Sony is something that will probably never happen again, not even to Microsoft.

DarkLink77

To be fair to everyone, PS2-era Sony had very little to do with PS2-era Sony and everything to do with everyone else in the industry.

Yeah, that's part of it. Right place, right time, that's why it's unlikely to happen again.

But I don't think Sony exactly bumbled through that generation either.

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#34 themyth01
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Have lots of good games, an accessible price point, good and solid online and BC is a plus. So like others have said, 1 and 3 are the big ones.
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#35 ebrezzy1
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2 things

reasonable price n psn w/ an epic online game

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#36 Blazerdt47
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Their arrogance is what got them in the pit in the first place. If the Sony from the PS2 era returns, then I can definitely see them climbing back to the top.
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#37 sandbox3d
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Out of the poll I'd say reasonable price.

I dont ever see them getting back to where they were though. Unless they offer up something that gets 3rd parties running back to them exclusively, or MS does something stupid that scares 3rd parties off, Sony will never dominate again.

They done f*cked up.

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1. Come out first or near first (since we haven't even seen the PS4 I say they failed this one) 2. Be cheap, no more than $300. (I don't know if they can handle this though) 3. Make it more developer family. 4. At least 4 gigs of RAM (why do console makers always cut corners on this?!) 5. Make sure you have a good launch lineup! Please don't make this mistake AGAIN. 6. Treat all all countries well, release at around the same time and the same price for every country. (Except Australia, over charging them is just tradition :P ) 7. Replace every single person in your PR and marketing. Do NOT: 1. Try to force a new format on people. It was cool the PS1 and 2 used formats people always used so they can play music and watch movies, but forcing BLu-ray back when most didn't even have HDDVDs was stupid. 2. No gimmicks. Not only are you bad coming with new things, you are bad at mimicking others new things. 3. related to the above: do not put a huge focus on you Wii-mote future kinect rip off, you can't compete with either of them (especially not at the same time). 4. Do not make PSN+ required for anything, a large amount of gamers prefer your console solely for the reason of free online. EDIT: added some dos in the do not list...
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#39 Inconsistancy
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1, 2, 3, New controller and MARKETING, lots of it.
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1, 2, 3, New controller and MARKETING, lots of it.Inconsistancy
Are you sure about that last one? they made this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJaGScKpZuU
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#41 Inconsistancy
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4. At least 4 gigs of RAM (why do console makers always cut corners on this?!)Kell_the_Gamer

128kb SNES (x16)
2mb PSX (x16)
32mb PS2 (x16)
512mb PS360

8192 would be the next step, though I'd be plenty happy with 6gb. (if consoles were on-time (6 year gen), but this one's longer, so the next step actually "should" be 16384)

They don't skimp, they just keep increasing ~the same amount. Ram hasn't gotten cheaper, we just buy a lot less of it. 300$ in '05 would get you 4gb(what I had back then), today that'll get you 64gb(10 times more than I have now!). There finally seems to be a diminishing return on increases in RAM.

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]1, 2, 3, New controller and MARKETING, lots of it.Kell_the_Gamer
Are you sure about that last one? they made this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJaGScKpZuU

Hahaha. Well, they have to do 'good' marketing.

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#42 Malta_1980
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A Great Console like their previous ones launched at a decent price..

Just cause Sony didnt 'win' this gen by selling the most consoles, doesnt mean it fell from grace in terms of quality in their product..

PS3 is a great console which offers a great variety of quality exclusives & multiplats, a good Free online service, extra features like being a Blu-Ray player, extra services like PSN+ etc etc

Surely Sony made a few mistakes, like launching the PS3 at a high price, dont market properly most of its exclusives and should have taken more care on making safer its Online service but overall it once again managed to release a great console...

For me as a gamer I didnt see Sony falling from grace cause they delivered once again a great console...

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#43 Namgis
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All of the above aside from the last. One console for my family next gen.

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#44 Kingpin0114
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Options 1-3 and learn how to market their products. They are easily the worst when it comes to marketing out of the big 3.

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#45 Caseytappy
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A powerfull console with a good launch price and a huge marketing budget, problem is they are close to bankrupt so it just won't happen .

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#46 hiphop_quotable
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Pull a Nintendo

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#47 kuraimen
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What do you mean get "back"? They're already at the topthemajormayor
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#48 helwa1988
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the games. its all about the games. they need to come out with some fresh new 1ps.
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#49 nervmeister
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Decent launch price, hardware that's easy to dev for, and a competent advertising campaign should do the trick.
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#50 MercenaryMafia
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]What do you mean get "back"? They're already at the topkuraimen

Yes, Sony is at the top of the gaming industry along side Nintendo and Microsoft, but I am talking about "back" to their market dominance of the PS2 era.