What does Sony need to do to sell more games?

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#1 bphan
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In light of Greenberg's comments. This made me wonder a bit. I mean the console install base for both platforms aren't too far apart. 40 vs 35. How does 1 game Halo 3 manage to outsell like 6 major PS3 exclusives combined. And these aren't crappy games but the best of the best that PS3 has to offer. Resistance 1,2 Uncharted 1,2 God of War 3, Killzone 3 combined. How? What does sony need to do to sell more games?

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#2 Half-Way
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lmao, they are trying to solve this problem with Move

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#3 treedoor
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More advertising

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#4 Shirokishi_
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Advertise up the wumbo.

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#5 JLF1
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See the problem was that Greenberg only used NPD numbers. Worldwide it's an entire different story.

PS3 games, especially exclusives are not selling poorly.

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#6 inggrish
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Do remember, Halo 3 is one of the most hyped games in history. It also had lots of money spent on advertising too. The actual game was crummy IMO, but that didn't stop it from selling well.

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#7 bphan
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More advertising

treedoor

I saw plenty of advertising for Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2. I still remember the Killzone 2 commecial. Is it just not registering with people?

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#8 KevinButlerVP
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your taking this out of contex, the only game that sells like that on the 360 is Halo. look at all other 360 exclusives and they sell just as if not worse than most PS3 exclusives
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#9 bphan
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Do remember, Halo 3 is one of the most hyped games in history. It also had lots of money spent on advertising too. The actual game was crummy IMO, but that didn't stop it from selling well.

_Matt_

I looked at the numbers. Halo 3 isn't that far away from other franchises like gears.

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#10 FIipMode
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Didn't the PS3 recently sell more software than the 360?
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#12 KevinButlerVP
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[QUOTE="bphan"]

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

Do remember, Halo 3 is one of the most hyped games in history. It also had lots of money spent on advertising too. The actual game was crummy IMO, but that didn't stop it from selling well.

I looked at the numbers. Halo 3 isn't that far away from other franchises like gears.

isn't gear 2 at like 5 mil, MGS4 is at about that same number
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#13 inggrish
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[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

Do remember, Halo 3 is one of the most hyped games in history. It also had lots of money spent on advertising too. The actual game was crummy IMO, but that didn't stop it from selling well.

bphan

I looked at the numbers. Halo 3 isn't that far away from other franchises like gears.

For what? Sales? Money spent on advertising?

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#14 inggrish
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[QUOTE="bphan"]

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

Do remember, Halo 3 is one of the most hyped games in history. It also had lots of money spent on advertising too. The actual game was crummy IMO, but that didn't stop it from selling well.

KevinButlerVP

I looked at the numbers. Halo 3 isn't that far away from other franchises like gears.

isn't gear 2 at like 5 mil, MGS4 is at about that same number

All i know is combined Gears 1 + 2 it equals about 11 million

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#15 Malta_1980
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its only 1 exclusive title that sold that much followed by Geow series & Forza... and to be honest Geow2 & Forza3 sold similar to MGS4 & GT5p..

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#16 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="bphan"]

I looked at the numbers. Halo 3 isn't that far away from other franchises like gears.

_Matt_

isn't gear 2 at like 5 mil, MGS4 is at about that same number

All i know is combined Gears 1 + 2 it equals about 11 million

do those numbers include Geow1 sales on PC?

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#17 2mrw
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nothing, Sony is doing just fine. most of the games he mentioned sold 2.5 million + . i believe he needs to worry about the x360 lead more than Halo3 vs PS3 games ;).

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#18 Diviniuz
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They need to make a game thats trendy
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#19 genaroll
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360 games sell ps3 games don't no matter how good the graphics are. 360 multiplats>ps3 multiplats 360 exclusies>ps3 exclusives
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#20 Salt_The_Fries
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[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] isn't gear 2 at like 5 mil, MGS4 is at about that same numberMalta_1980

All i know is combined Gears 1 + 2 it equals about 11 million

do those numbers include Geow1 sales on PC?

Gears 1 sold like 0.15 million on PC at most.
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#21 donalbane
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Sell more consoles.
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#22 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

All i know is combined Gears 1 + 2 it equals about 11 million

Salt_The_Fries

do those numbers include Geow1 sales on PC?

Gears 1 sold like 0.15 million on PC at most.

in that case sales on PC are insignificant..

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#23 bphan
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

All i know is combined Gears 1 + 2 it equals about 11 million

Salt_The_Fries

do those numbers include Geow1 sales on PC?

Gears 1 sold like 0.15 million on PC at most.

Do you have a link for this? I don't trust VGchartz.

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#24 inggrish
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360 games sell ps3 games don't no matter how good the graphics are. 360 multiplats>ps3 multiplats 360 exclusies>ps3 exclusivesgenaroll

Fanboy alert :P

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#25 inggrish
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[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

do those numbers include Geow1 sales on PC?

bphan

Gears 1 sold like 0.15 million on PC at most.

Do you have a link for this? I don't trust VGchartz.

If you are meaning me, then no, I admittedly got it off wikipedia! Lol

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#26 bphan
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More software was sold on the PS3 than the 360 last quarter despite the 360's larger install base, so they're doing fine. Halo 3 isn't the standard for MS, it's the exception.

Slashkice

link?

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#27 xTpux
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lower the price of brand new games.

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#28 KevinButlerVP
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[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

More software was sold on the PS3 than the 360 last quarter despite the 360's larger install base, so they're doing fine. Halo 3 isn't the standard for MS, it's the exception.

bphan

link?

Its kinda old news but a while back in SW there was official software sales and Sony sold more then MS

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#29 bphan
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Sell more consoles.donalbane

But sony wants to make money not lose money, but you gotta sell software to make money, but you can't sell software without selling hardware..But sony wants to make money not lose money, but you gotta sell software to make money, but you can't sell software without selling hardware...ummm.

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#30 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

More software was sold on the PS3 than the 360 last quarter despite the 360's larger install base, so they're doing fine. Halo 3 isn't the standard for MS, it's the exception.

bphan

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Right here hombre :)

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#31 dc337
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The problem is that a lot of those ps3 owners bought it for the blu-ray player and rarely buy games.
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#33 coolkid93
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They can advertise more games I guess.
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#34 farnham
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get more people to buy PS3 ?

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#35 djsifer01
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Dude, Sony's top exclusives have sold very well. A game dosent need to sell 8 million copies to be a success. 1-2 million units sold for a exclusive game is very much successful. IMO, Halo 3 is the worst game out of all the games he mentioned. Wait till GT5 is released, it will out sell Halo3 without question.
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#36 inggrish
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The problem is that a lot of those ps3 owners bought it for the blu-ray player and rarely buy games. dc337

rarely buy games? Why has the attatch rate only increased then?

I know it is one of the best blu ray players on the market still, for a very good price that can access BBC iplayer etcf, but I'm sure a lot of people still use if for games

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#38 donalbane
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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]

[QUOTE="bphan"]

[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

More software was sold on the PS3 than the 360 last quarter despite the 360's larger install base, so they're doing fine. Halo 3 isn't the standard for MS, it's the exception.

link?

Its kinda old news but a while back in SW there was official software sales and Sony sold more then MS

Yeah, one month it did (haven't seen another article that said the trend continued. Maybe, maybe not.) And this was considered newsworthy because Microsoft has consistently dominated software sales since the beginning of this console generation.
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#39 donalbane
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[QUOTE="donalbane"]Sell more consoles.bphan

But sony wants to make money not lose money, but you gotta sell software to make money, but you can't sell software without selling hardware..But sony wants to make money not lose money, but you gotta sell software to make money, but you can't sell software without selling hardware...ummm.

Yeah, I know... this isn't a business I would want to be in.
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Heavily promote a game that appeals to a wide demographic and has massive multiplayer/online to back it up. That or finally release Gran Turismo 5. :P

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#42 Malta_1980
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The problem is that a lot of those ps3 owners bought it for the blu-ray player and rarely buy games. dc337

hey man its June 2010 not June 2007 and PS3's attach rate is quite close to the 360...

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#43 inggrish
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Heavily promote a game that appeals to a wide demographic and has massive multiplayer/online to back it up. That or finally release Gran Turismo 5. :P

Lionheart08

That made me LOL

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[QUOTE="dc337"]The problem is that a lot of those ps3 owners bought it for the blu-ray player and rarely buy games. Malta_1980

hey man its June 2010 not June 2007 and PS3's attach rate is quite close to the 360...

ps3 8.1 360 8.8 it's not close it's almost close.
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

[QUOTE="dc337"]The problem is that a lot of those ps3 owners bought it for the blu-ray player and rarely buy games. genaroll

hey man its June 2010 not June 2007 and PS3's attach rate is quite close to the 360...

ps3 8.1 360 8.8 it's not close it's almost close.

I think its pretty close, 0.7 of a game. So on average XBOX owners buy 0.7 of a game more than people who buy PS3s. So if a lot of people buy PS3's purely for blu rays, then that must mean for those that buy the console for use as a game machine, the attatch rate must be much higher than that of the 360 :P

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#46 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

[QUOTE="dc337"]The problem is that a lot of those ps3 owners bought it for the blu-ray player and rarely buy games. genaroll

hey man its June 2010 not June 2007 and PS3's attach rate is quite close to the 360...

ps3 8.1 360 8.8 it's not close it's almost close.

let me spin that, for a system (PS3) which people believe its bought mainly as a blu-ray player, being so close to the 360 which is a TRUE Gaming console makes me think a lot.. either PS3 is mainly bought as a gaming console or else 360 has done something wrong since its just a gaming console with an attach rate close to that of a Blu-ray player :P

hehe

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Add cross game chat. Everything else is perfect.

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#48 2mrw
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MS doesn't have anymore games to show, that's why they are playing the sales card, not to mention Halo is the sole example.

Fan can't play sales , you know .... may be that's why the x360 is losing the lead.

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#49 genaroll
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[QUOTE="genaroll"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

hey man its June 2010 not June 2007 and PS3's attach rate is quite close to the 360...

Malta_1980

ps3 8.1 360 8.8 it's not close it's almost close.

let me spin that, for a system (PS3) which people believe its bought mainly as a blu-ray player, being so close to the 360 which is a TRUE Gaming console makes me think a lot.. either PS3 is mainly bought as a gaming console or else 360 has done something wrong since its just a gaming console with an attach rate close to that of a Blu-ray player :P

hehe

Yep it has the support of people who buy it for blu-ray then maybe some games and people who buy it for games but it still is low :P
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#50 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

[QUOTE="genaroll"] ps3 8.1 360 8.8 it's not close it's almost close.genaroll

let me spin that, for a system (PS3) which people believe its bought mainly as a blu-ray player, being so close to the 360 which is a TRUE Gaming console makes me think a lot.. either PS3 is mainly bought as a gaming console or else 360 has done something wrong since its just a gaming console with an attach rate close to that of a Blu-ray player :P

hehe

Yep it has the support of people who buy it for blu-ray then maybe some games and people who buy it for games but it still is low :P

its not low and you know it ;)