What features do you want next-gen consoles to take from the PC?

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#1 shutdown_202
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Topic title says it all really, what features do you want for your next gen consoles? I wouldnt mind the ability to record gameplay sections that save directly onto your harddrive. So for exmaple, there might be a camera button on next gen controllers, you hold it untill it starts recording (tap for a snapshot) and press it again when you want it to stop. A universal system, sort of like Achievements on live.

Now onto my real issue. I actually very suprised console sheep haven't fully realised. Many are so quick to scream the death of PC gaming but just dont understand whats happening underneath their noses. What your seeing every single gen is a slow transformation of consoles turning into PCs. Last gen marked (or towards the end of last gen) the end of consoles and what we have at the moment is pseudo-PC gaming. 5th gen to 6th gen added online and harddrives. 6th - now added patches, DLC, varied multimedia functions, installing and alot more.

So whats really happening is gamers are being turned into PC gamers. The irony being PC gaming actually growing instead of dying. You may be thinking right now "bu bu but il still be on mySony machine!, how is it PC gaming?" Thats wrong. PC gaming, is not the platform, its really the combining of all the things i listed before (+ alot more). I mean, its the main reason why we distinctively seperate it from console gaming.

To sum this up console gaming will soon merge into PC gaming.

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I wouldn't mind the ability to change the graphics settings. Like resolution, textures, AA, etc. Maybe you would like to play a shooter in 60fps instead of 30fps.

Maybe even the ability to upgrade the hardware (which would be completely optional).

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#3 Puckhog04
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I just want the consoles to stay consoles. :)

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#4 Lto_thaG
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I just want the consoles to stay consoles. :)

Puckhog04
Pretty much...Although Free DLC would be nice.
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#5 Chutebox
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I want a large HDD and all games to be dl'd to the HDD.

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#6 Brainhunter
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I want a large HDD and all games to be dl'd to the HDD.

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No. I prefer my games to be a hard copy, safely stored in a disc in a case. If anything, I want games to be able to run with no loading times and no performance hit without the use of an HDD. This means the usage of discs with high read speed.
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#7 Puckhog04
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I want a large HDD and all games to be dl'd to the HDD.

Brainhunter

No. I prefer my games to be a hard copy, safely stored in a disc in a case. If anything, I want games to be able to run with no loading times and no performance hit without the use of an HDD. This means the usage of discs with high read speed.

Agree on all points. Especially the hard copy. I can't stress enough how much I would hate having everything digital.

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#8 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I want a large HDD and all games to be dl'd to the HDD.

Brainhunter

No. I prefer my games to be a hard copy, safely stored in a disc in a case. If anything, I want games to be able to run with no loading times and no performance hit without the use of an HDD. This means the usage of discs with high read speed.

Nono, still get the hard copy, at least have to option to put the whole game on the HDD. And in order to do that they need a large HDD.

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#9 Cherokee_Jack
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Is it too late to go backwards...? They need to either go all the way or go back to the way things were last gen (only with online and hard drives).
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#10 shoryuken_
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Free DLC, mods, sales on games (like they have on Steam)

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#11 killab2oo5
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[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

I just want the consoles to stay consoles. :)

Lto_thaG
Pretty much...Although Free DLC would be nice.

Agreed. Though, some standard feature to record gameplay and upload (Youtube?) would be pretty cool. Definately don't want an upgradeable console or the ability to change settings. One pro about console multiplayer is that the players are on equal grounds.
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#12 AmnesiaHaze
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just a application like MS office and a music creating/editing software

wouldnt need a PC then, just a console , everythings else is available already on my ps3 - multimedia , internet , games , bd/dvd drive

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#13 shoryuken_
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Free online. Battle.net 2.0 will be free and will also be better than both Live and PSN.

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#14 Arach666
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just a application like MS office and a music creating/editing software

wouldnt need a PC then, just a console , everythings else is available already on my ps3 - multimedia , internet , games , bd/dvd drive

AmnesiaHaze
But then again,with all that,why would you need a console?That would be a PC.
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#15 Yandere
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Freeware and good games.

I also want to be able to play DOS games next gen consoles.

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#16 lpjazzman220
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ummm good graphics...a strict allergy to halo....huge harddrive....free network....true 1080 and not upscale.....60+fps at least.....eyefinity

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#17 muscleserge
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ummm good graphics...a strict allergy to halo....huge harddrive....free network....true 1080 and not upscale.....60+fps at least.....eyefinity

lpjazzman220
I am afraid these things would drive up the costs to far for consoles, even if selling at a loss. Not only cost of consoles would go up, but development costs would as well.
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#18 DarkGamer007
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I would deffinately like to see more support for user-generated content, although that is more of a developer desicion than a console makers one. Oh I know, I want dedicated servers for some games, and the ones that already use them to increase the player count to their PC game coutner parts. (DICE, Im looking at you with this one, both the PC and console versions of Bad Company 2 use dedicated servers, so why do PC players get 32 player matches, while consoles are stuck with 24 players? And more free content.

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#19 XanderZane
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Consoles are taking on PC hardware elements, but they still difference from PC because they don't have all the other programs running in the background to box it down. That is changing as well with Twitter, Facebook and other application being put on the HDD. That doesn't mean PC gaming is growing though. It just means PC gaming and console gaming a slowly merging and moving to the family room. Soon there will be one console that does it all right on your HDTV. I think consoles will be around for awhile though.

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#20 EddieBGreen
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Framerate being more important than textures/polys.

Two handed pointer controls.

More niche / indie / retro titles / 2d titles. Less mainstream T/FPS.

Ditch the disc.

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#21 Videodogg
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Upgradablity. It would be great if they could make a easily replaceable cpu or gpu, so, when the games get better all you have to do is replace those parts, instead of replacing the whole console. I hate having to buy all new peripherals every few years. This way your console stays up to date and backwards compatable.

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#22 Arach666
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Consoles are taking on PC hardware elements, but they still difference from PC because they don't have all the other programs running in the background to box it down. That is changing as well with Twitter, Facebook and other application being put on the HDD. That doesn't mean PC gaming is growing though. It just means PC gaming and console gaming a slowly merging and moving to the family room. Soon there will be one PC that does it all right on your HDTV. I think consoles will be around for awhile though.

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Fixed!

Everything else I somewhat agree.

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#23 Cherokee_Jack
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Upgradablity. It would be great if they could make a easily replaceable cpu or gpu, so, when the games get better all you have to do is replace those parts, instead of replacing the whole console. I hate having to buy all new peripherals every few years. This way your console stays up to date and backwards compatable.

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Heh.
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#24 Arach666
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Upgradablity. It would be great if they could make a easily replaceable cpu or gpu, so, when the games get better all you have to do is replace those parts, instead of replacing the whole console. I hate having to buy all new peripherals every few years. This way your console stays up to date and backwards compatable.

Videodogg
You are describing a PC. That simply is not possible on consoles for so many reasons.
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#25 AnnoyedDragon
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If I know console companies they will adopt GPGPU and declare it revolutionary, with them starting the revolution...

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[QUOTE="lpjazzman220"]

ummm good graphics...a strict allergy to halo....huge harddrive....free network....true 1080 and not upscale.....60+fps at least.....eyefinity

muscleserge

I am afraid these things would drive up the costs to far for consoles, even if selling at a loss. Not only cost of consoles would go up, but development costs would as well.

If a $400 console was released now it could definately do 1080p and probably 60fps. Any decent graphics card right now can run any decent console port at 1080p with 60fps.

Remember that the 360's gpu wasnt far behind the top of the line gpu's on pc when it was released.

Its actually less work to just go to 1080p than stay at 720p and use the xtra power to improve the graphics.

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#27 kolkov01
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I actually wouldn't mind if you had to install ALL games on to your HDD, it would ensure your discs would last longer, improve loading times, and more content could be fit into one disc
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#28 kolkov01
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a strict allergy to halolpjazzman220
Why? If you don't like the game don't buy it, problem solved
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#29 AnnoyedDragon
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If a $400 console was released now it could definately do 1080p and probably 60fps...

...Its actually less work to just go to 1080p than stay at 720p and use the xtra power to improve the graphics.

Cranler

I'm afraid that won't happen; and you already answered why.

They could do 1080p/60fps with the existing consoles, but they can get better graphics at 720p/30fps. Developers today will even sacrifice 720p if it means getting that little extra edge over the competition.

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#30 Mograine
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Funny, people wants upgrade-able consoles and graphic features tampering.

I bet most of them are the same that whine about how complicated PC gaming is because you need to mess with the specs and the game settings.

:roll:

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#31 Cranler
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[QUOTE="Brainhunter"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I want a large HDD and all games to be dl'd to the HDD.

No. I prefer my games to be a hard copy, safely stored in a disc in a case. If anything, I want games to be able to run with no loading times and no performance hit without the use of an HDD. This means the usage of discs with high read speed.

No clue why you would want this beside impatience. It only takes about 10-15 min to install a game from disc. Hard drives will always be quieter, faster and produce less heat than a disc drive.
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#32 godzillavskong
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How about the price of console games matching the price of PC games? I'd love to buy a new console game for 29.99! Also, for PC gamersto ease up and let the console live its' inferior life, without having to keep hearing how much better their PC is. Oh, there is also a list of tech savy words that I've heard people say , that I hope my next console has, Anti Alaising,Frames per second, Floating points, Jigabytes, GPU, Megabytes, and overclocking!

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#33 Brainkiller05
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You're right about consoles slowly becoming PCs, so it's kinda funny when and ironic when consolites say PC gaming is dying or bad. Open your eyes, all 360/PS3 is = cheaper and worse version of a PC, it's got to the point were consoles do practically everything a PC does just at a worse standard.
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[QUOTE="Brainhunter"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I want a large HDD and all games to be dl'd to the HDD.

Puckhog04

No. I prefer my games to be a hard copy, safely stored in a disc in a case. If anything, I want games to be able to run with no loading times and no performance hit without the use of an HDD. This means the usage of discs with high read speed.

Agree on all points. Especially the hard copy. I can't stress enough how much I would hate having everything digital.

I used to think that way, but now I moved to fully digital. Once you realize the benefits, there's no turning back. Never again you need to search for a disc, just double-click icon and play, 0 risk of disk scratching, loosing disc, etc., you can play on any PC any time (you do need a fast internet connection though). Basically, using a hard-copy disc is a hassle, just having to insert the disc is annoying :)

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#35 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]You're right about consoles slowly becoming PCs, so it's kinda funny when and ironic when consolites say PC gaming is dying or bad. Open your eyes, all 360/PS3 is = cheaper and worse version of a PC, it's got to the point were consoles do practically everything a PC does just at a worse standard.

Yep,pretty much this.
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#36 Zero5000X
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Hard drives need to be larger. All games should be both retail and downloadable. All retail games should have an install option. Mouse and Keyboard support. Perhaps Microsoft could add some kind of Windows emulation software that allows Windows games to be played.
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#37 blizzvalve
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Mod support, dedicated servers, and keyboard and mouse support would make me enjoy consoles more.

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#38 Bigboi500
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Dump the controllers in favor of mouse n keyboard support?

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#39 kolkov01
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Dump the controllers in favor of mouse n keyboard support?

Bigboi500
is there a law that says you can't use all of them?
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#40 lawlessx
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more games on the console having mod support would be nice.
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#41 kolkov01
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How cool would it be if the next xbox were compatible with MS-DOS, windows 95, 98, ME and XP games?

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#42 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Dump the controllers in favor of mouse n keyboard support?

kolkov01

is there a law that says you can't use all of them?

Yes. Ye hermit law of olde.

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#43 Mograine
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How cool would it be if the next xbox were compatible with MS-DOS, windows 95, 98, ME and XP games?

kolkov01

Most of which are not playable with a controller, and need Windows libraries to run properly :D

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I know I won't get it, but more freedom in gaming. Mods won't happen, but I can only dream. Tho I like to see a decent RTS hit consoles, and am not talking Pikmin.
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#45 kolkov01
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[QUOTE="kolkov01"]

How cool would it be if the next xbox were compatible with MS-DOS, windows 95, 98, ME and XP games?

Mograine

Most of which are not playable with a controller, and need Windows libraries to run properly :D

I actually got a lot of those to run on my 360 controller using Dos-Box of course the RTS would be a problem :\
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#46 kolkov01
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I know I won't get it, but more freedom in gaming. Mods won't happen, but I can only dream. Tho I like to see a decent RTS hit consoles, and am not talking Pikmin.ArisShadows
To be honest... I though the Halo Wars and the C&C games were pretty decent
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#47 Trmpt
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ummm good graphics...a strict allergy to halo....huge harddrive....free network....true 1080 and not upscale.....60+fps at least.....eyefinity

lpjazzman220

I highly doubt that you will see every game in 60 FPS next gen. Not even the majority.

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#48 lpjazzman220
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[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="lpjazzman220"]

ummm good graphics...a strict allergy to halo....huge harddrive....free network....true 1080 and not upscale.....60+fps at least.....eyefinity

Cranler

I am afraid these things would drive up the costs to far for consoles, even if selling at a loss. Not only cost of consoles would go up, but development costs would as well.

If a $400 console was released now it could definately do 1080p and probably 60fps. Any decent graphics card right now can run any decent console port at 1080p with 60fps.

Remember that the 360's gpu wasnt far behind the top of the line gpu's on pc when it was released.

Its actually less work to just go to 1080p than stay at 720p and use the xtra power to improve the graphics.

i dont really see how hard it would be.....the companies have said that next-next gen consoles are still a couple of years off.....so i dont see how a 5870 would be too much out of the question for 400-600usd, cause by then we'll have probably 7870's or at least 6870's...i mean, look at the price of 8800's last year, you can get them for around 100usd, give or take 20usd, when the ps3 and 360 came out, 8800's were nearly 1000usd. i really dont see the problem with that, and lets face it, i dont think that there is going to be much advancement cause graphics havent gotten thaaaaaaat much better in the past 3 years. so i think it is completely feasible to have 1080p w/60+fps on a console in the next gen, and the graphics would be amazing for a good price point

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#49 Arach666
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[QUOTE="ArisShadows"]I know I won't get it, but more freedom in gaming. Mods won't happen, but I can only dream. Tho I like to see a decent RTS hit consoles, and am not talking Pikmin.kolkov01
To be honest... I though the Halo Wars and the C&C games were pretty decent

Hmm,they were decent by console standards,I guess. Nothing like a Supreme commander or a World in conflict though(among many,many others).
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]You're right about consoles slowly becoming PCs, so it's kinda funny when and ironic when consolites say PC gaming is dying or bad. Open your eyes, all 360/PS3 is = cheaper and worse version of a PC, it's got to the point were consoles do practically everything a PC does just at a worse standard.Arach666
Yep,pretty much this.

not really . my ps3 can do MUCH more than my PC - it can barely run multiple internet explorer windows at the same time and i get "virtual memory low" all the time , i just don't want to spend so much cash on PC so i can run the same games as on consoles for significantly less

we cannot compare "PC" to "console" at all - console is usually 1 config with slight differences (HDD size for example on ps3 , color on wii etc.) but PC has basically hudrets maybe thousands of different hardware specs i would never say PC gaming is dying though , how can it even die ? that's not possible. both are good , it's just a matter of personal preference and budget size when it comes to games