I'm not trying to bash Blu-ray here,but what good did it actually do to the gaming industry? I mean it's not like games are of a much larger scale or longer on Blu-Ray,so what exactly are the benefits of Blu-Ray to gaming?
Thanks.
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I'm not trying to bash Blu-ray here,but what good did it actually do to the gaming industry? I mean it's not like games are of a much larger scale or longer on Blu-Ray,so what exactly are the benefits of Blu-Ray to gaming?
Thanks.
I'm not trying to bash Blu-ray here,but what good did it actually do to the gaming industry? I mean it's not like games are of a much larger scale or longer on Blu-Ray,so what exactly are the benefits of Blu-Ray to gaming?
Thanks.
normal_gamer
If you have a 7.1 Surround Sound System, and a decent AV setup, the Uncompressed sound and CGI look good on PS3 games. For the rest of us, not much really.
I dont have to stand up to swap discs when i play FF13. Not to mention i saved money getting 2 in 1. Those two reasons are enough for me.
made it so FF13 wasn't on 3 disks :lol:I'm not trying to bash Blu-ray here,but what good did it actually do to the gaming industry? I mean it's not like games are of a much larger scale or longer on Blu-Ray,so what exactly are the benefits of Blu-Ray to gaming?
Thanks.
normal_gamer
I'm not trying to bash Blu-ray here,but what good did it actually do to the gaming industry? I mean it's not like games are of a much larger scale or longer on Blu-Ray,so what exactly are the benefits of Blu-Ray to gaming?
Thanks.
made it so FF13 wasn't on 3 disks :lol: Yeah, Now 360 owners don't get the play 13....Oh, wait...I mean the extra content....er I mean I don't have to get up to change a disc ever 8-10 hours! I do when I need to charge my controller though becuase the USB cable that comes with the PS3 is only 3 feet long.I'm not trying to bash Blu-ray here,but what good did it actually do to the gaming industry? I mean it's not like games are of a much larger scale or longer on Blu-Ray,so what exactly are the benefits of Blu-Ray to gaming?
Thanks.
made it so FF13 wasn't on 3 disks :lol: Yeah, Now 360 owners don't get the play 13....Oh, wait...I mean the extra content....er I mean I don't have to get up to change a disc ever 8-10 hours! I do when I need to charge my controller though becuase the USB cable that comes with the PS3 is only 3 feet long. I leave my controller on all night and it doesn't run out of battery if that's what your getting at, but they had to cut content overall because of disk space shortage. Even Lost Planet 2 devs were finding it hard to cope with the inferior DVD9.I'm not trying to bash Blu-ray here,but what good did it actually do to the gaming industry? I mean it's not like games are of a much larger scale or longer on Blu-Ray,so what exactly are the benefits of Blu-Ray to gaming?
Thanks.
normal_gamer
Blu-Ray Allows Developers, if they want, to make the game as large as they want (well, much, much larger than DVD allows). Not all need to do this, and some just won't due to making sure they have a multiplat ready to go. It's also fantastic for high end CGI and for fantastic Audio. For instance, Final Fantasy XIII on PS3 will have 1080p CGI, where as the Xbox 360 will have 720p...that's good right? Sure, we all know now that FFXIII runs at a higher Resolution and looks better on PS3 in gameplay, but I'm talking about the Famous FF CGI we all expect, and how Blu impacted that.
However, when I play a game like Uncharted 2 or MGS4, I'm thankful for Blu-Ray.:P
You have to look back at DVD, and ask if that was needed? Honestly, it could have been CD's...the difference was DVD was adopted and pushed by PS2. Soon after, Xbox used the same format. That was 2/3 consoles, so devs jumped on board a bit quicker. Not to mention the PS2 was first out of the gate.
The PS3 wasn't first out of the gate, and it's only 1/3 consoles to have the format, so devs would rather design a 4-6.8gig game and make that for both consoles. That doesn't mean Blu isn't a benefit, it just means publishers aren't going to make PS3 exclusives rather than a multiplat.
So, while Blu is useful, we can't expect multiplatform devs to take advantage of it....however, there have been complaints of DVD's limitations for a few years now. From Carmack's RAGE to even recently Capcom Lost Planet 2. However, they may complain, but they still design the game around DVD, instead of Blu for $$$. It makes fiscal sense, but don't mistake that for Blu-Ray not helping game developers.
I mentioned audio, but 7.1 surround is nice, and less compressed audio, lossless, etc.
Then there is the anti-piracy benefits of Blu-Ray, which is good for developers. Blu-Ray is not piracy friendly, which in turn is nice to know for a developer making a game on Blu.
Blu-Ray is scratch resistant, which is good for longterm ownership.
Blu-Ray offers one disc gaming, not a huge benefit, but nice for gamers.
There is also extra game content which Blu-Ray allows. Games like Command and Conquer Red Alert 3, Ghostbusters, Dead Space, and Dante's Inferno on PS3 have extra content due to the Blu-Ray disc. That's a bonus, if developers want to use it.
Remember too, not all games are good for Multidisc gameplay. Imagine playing a sandbox game, let's say GTA5, and if you drove out too far, you needed to insert disc 2. That wouldn't be any good. This hasn't happened, again, because devs want to make a game for both machines, but that would be an example of Blu-Ray being supportive for gaming developers.
Did DVD help Game Developers, TC?
Did CD help Game Developers, TC?
In the end, more space is good right? It may not be NEEDED, but it's handy for developers for sure.
The more space a disc has, the less compression is needed to make everything fit. Blu-Ray is the way to go for audiophiles and gaming since it means less compressed audio and visuals.
Less compressed visuals? You have no clue what you're talking about do you? If by movies, ok. Gameplay visuals remain the same regardless of medium.The more space a disc has, the less compression is needed to make everything fit. Blu-Ray is the way to go for audiophiles and gaming since it means less compressed audio and visuals.
Phoenix534
I like the idea of extra space, lossless audio and video that can be contained within it. But it probably wasnt worth losing billions and ending up last for audio enthusiasts.
I leave my controller on all night and it doesn't run out of battery if that's what your getting at, but they had to cut content overall because of disk space shortage. Even Lost Planet 2 devs were finding it hard to cope with the inferior DVD9.MetalGearSolidZ
Baaaaad idea, you never want to overcharge a battery as it will reduce its lifetime.
And what content was cut?
[QUOTE="MetalGearSolidZ"] I leave my controller on all night and it doesn't run out of battery if that's what your getting at, but they had to cut content overall because of disk space shortage. Even Lost Planet 2 devs were finding it hard to cope with the inferior DVD9.Snugenz
Baaaaad idea, you never want to overcharge a battery as it will reduce its lifetime.
And what content was cut?
lol leave it on all night NOT charging, just by itself and all I can tell you is what Lost Planet 2 devs said which was they had to cut lots of content out of it[QUOTE="Snugenz"][QUOTE="MetalGearSolidZ"] I leave my controller on all night and it doesn't run out of battery if that's what your getting at, but they had to cut content overall because of disk space shortage. Even Lost Planet 2 devs were finding it hard to cope with the inferior DVD9.MetalGearSolidZ
Baaaaad idea, you never want to overcharge a battery as it will reduce its lifetime.
And what content was cut?
lol leave it on all night NOT charging, just by itself and all I can tell you is what Lost Planet 2 devs said which was they had to cut lots of content out of itOh thought you meant FFXIII for some reason ...
Three benefits
1) No disc swapping for the larger games.
2) Uncompressed audio. Pretty awesome if you have a nice surround-sound setup.
3) More freedom to devs as they have more space to play with. This can only be a good thing.
Everything in a game takes disc space, so it could mean: better models, higher-res textures, better CGI, better audio, more complex programming, more objects on screen, more length, larger scale...rather or not any of those things are being utilized or not at this point in time is moot; those are the things that can be done with the extra disc space.jalexbrownBut with only 512MB of total RAM to work with (and the limitation that anything playable must be in RAM to be played), that imposes a stricter limit on the quality of your work than anything the disc can do at this point.
But compression helps the one big problem of optical discs--transfer rate.The more space a disc has, the less compression is needed to make everything fit. Blu-Ray is the way to go for audiophiles and gaming since it means less compressed audio and visuals.
Phoenix534
[QUOTE="Shattered007"][QUOTE="MetalGearSolidZ"] made it so FF13 wasn't on 3 disks :lol:MetalGearSolidZYeah, Now 360 owners don't get the play 13....Oh, wait...I mean the extra content....er I mean I don't have to get up to change a disc ever 8-10 hours! I do when I need to charge my controller though becuase the USB cable that comes with the PS3 is only 3 feet long. I leave my controller on all night and it doesn't run out of battery if that's what your getting at, but they had to cut content overall because of disk space shortage. Even Lost Planet 2 devs were finding it hard to cope with the inferior DVD9.That proves it...the 360 is done for! Cows! Laugh with me!!!
Less compressed visuals? You have no clue what you're talking about do you? If by movies, ok. Gameplay visuals remain the same regardless of medium. Textures can be less compressed and higher-res with Blu-Ray than on DVD.[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]
The more space a disc has, the less compression is needed to make everything fit. Blu-Ray is the way to go for audiophiles and gaming since it means less compressed audio and visuals.
Dynafrom
Man we are in short supply of those Dev's. Well, besides 1st and 2nd-party developers, and a handful of 3rd-party developers, that's pretty true. But it seems like more developers have been starting to open up to Blu-Ray lately. Hopefully in time every developer can wrap their hands around such technology and we'll stop seeing multiplats that are not on par with 360 counterparts.[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]More freedom for the developers who know how to develop with Blu-Ray technology. CoreoVII
think of ff13 on 360 and ps3...and then u will see what advantages there are..I'm not trying to bash Blu-ray here,but what good did it actually do to the gaming industry? I mean it's not like games are of a much larger scale or longer on Blu-Ray,so what exactly are the benefits of Blu-Ray to gaming?
Thanks.
normal_gamer
360 devs are struggling for space as the gen went on, while PS3 devs can take advantage of the space for more content, higher quality videos, higher quality sound, multiple language support, and the like. Games like Lost Odyssey, Final Fantasy XIII and Mass Effect 2 show how DVD storage is becoming a limitation for the 360 platform.BrainhunterMan, that's like half the 360 library right there.
Blu-Ray gives the opportunity for uncompressed everything. But i think Blu-Ray will be more needed for next-gen, well for consoles atleast.
To everyone saying uncompressed and higher resolution textures, look at Crysis. Only 7gb but the best looking game currently.
Only real advantage is higher quality FMV's, as good compressed audio is one tenth of the size and the difference can only be heard by audiphiles with a $10,000 speaker system with gold plated silver cables cooled to 100 degrees kelvin for superconducting for ultimate sound quality.
[QUOTE="Dynafrom"]Less compressed visuals? You have no clue what you're talking about do you? If by movies, ok. Gameplay visuals remain the same regardless of medium. Textures can be less compressed and higher-res with Blu-Ray than on DVD.Texture are more commonly limited by RAM than by disc space since a texure is useless unless it can be put to use in the RAM.[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]
The more space a disc has, the less compression is needed to make everything fit. Blu-Ray is the way to go for audiophiles and gaming since it means less compressed audio and visuals.
jalexbrown
[QUOTE="Brainhunter"]360 devs are struggling for space as the gen went on, while PS3 devs can take advantage of the space for more content, higher quality videos, higher quality sound, multiple language support, and the like. Games like Lost Odyssey, Final Fantasy XIII and Mass Effect 2 show how DVD storage is becoming a limitation for the 360 platform.Shattered007Man, that's like half the 360 library right there.I hope that's a joke because the 360 library is considerable (several hundred games) and, TTBOMK, is noticeably larger than the PS3's library.
Three benefits
1) No disc swapping for the larger games.
2) Uncompressed audio. Pretty awesome if you have a nice surround-sound setup.
3) More freedom to devs as they have more space to play with. This can only be a good thing.
Kan0nF0dder
4. no installation just Saving games only
Crysis can be installed on a hard drive that's why compressing it to 7 gb work. You can't do that on consoles for many games unless you want to buy a huge hard drive (and huge proprietary hard drives for the 360 are very expenssive).To everyone saying uncompressed and higher resolution textures, look at Crysis. Only 7gb but the best looking game currently.
Only real advantage is higher quality FMV's, as good compressed audio is one tenth of the size and the difference can only be heard by audiphiles with a $10,000 speaker system with gold plated silver cables cooled to 100 degrees kelvin for superconducting for ultimate sound quality.
qazadex
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