What happened to Crysis? Downgraded? what the george is going on here

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#1 PhoebusFlows
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http://www.gametrailers.com/player/25064.html (80 MB HD video, so that you can judge it properly. Give it time to load)

What happened? I was rooting for this game even though I wont be able to play it. The graphics do not look at good as the earlier breathtaking Crysis videos. And this is supposed to tbe the latest one.

Major disappointment. Someone tell me this was just badly compressed video or something, or even multiplayer or something for Crysis sake.

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#2 Vandalvideo
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PC gaems have, say it with me now, SETTINGS that can be changed. :o
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#3 rimnet00
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This is the online mode, thats why you are probably thinking that. Yah, and even then it looks great. What are you talking about?
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PC gaems have, say it with me now, SETTINGS that can be changed. :oVandalvideo

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#5 cobrax25
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thats the Beta...which is missing AA completly.....

and its multiplayer...so of course its gonna look worse then singleplayer....it always does....

just go ahead and look at any recent singeplayer videos...they look as good as always.

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#6 LordMontezuma
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PC gaems have, say it with me now, SETTINGS that can be changed. :oVandalvideo

This would have been a valid point if this was not an official video which would obviously use the highest settings to advertise their games. Try again.

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#7 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]PC gaems have, say it with me now, SETTINGS that can be changed. :oLordMontezuma

This would have been a valid point if this was not an official video which would obviously use the highest settings to advertise their games. Try again.

Actually, you can't prove that. You put it fourth, you prove it.
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PC gaems have, say it with me now, SETTINGS that can be changed. :oVandalvideo

Link?

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#9 LordMontezuma
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[QUOTE="LordMontezuma"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]PC gaems have, say it with me now, SETTINGS that can be changed. :oVandalvideo

This would have been a valid point if this was not an official video which would obviously use the highest settings to advertise their games. Try again.

Actually, you can't prove that. You put it fourth, you prove it.

Can't prove what? That's an official video? Did you watch it, or am I talking to a blind defender of a game they've never played?

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#10 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]PC gaems have, say it with me now, SETTINGS that can be changed. :oPro_wrestler

Link?

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#11 Vandalvideo
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Can't prove what? That's an official video? Did you watch it, or am I talking to a blind defender of a game they've never played?LordMontezuma
Prove that its running on max settings. Heck, prove that it was even running on a competant rig to begin with.
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#12 gamer0100
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Wow way to talk about a month old video out of the blue.
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#13 Zeliard9
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It's a beta, and you can't even put most settings on high without tweaking the config (and you can't put them on very high at all, that's DX10). If EA lives up to their promise (laughable, I know) I should be playing the demo by tonight, and I'll post some pics.
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#14 LordMontezuma
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[QUOTE="LordMontezuma"]Can't prove what? That's an official video? Did you watch it, or am I talking to a blind defender of a game they've never played?Vandalvideo
Prove that its running on max settings. Heck, prove that it was even running on a competant rig to begin with.

Why would a developer(orpublisher) put out a video for their game without playing it on the most finely tuned rig they could find? To even pretend that it's running on a crappy rig just shows how incompetent you must me.

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="LordMontezuma"]Can't prove what? That's an official video? Did you watch it, or am I talking to a blind defender of a game they've never played?LordMontezuma

Prove that its running on max settings. Heck, prove that it was even running on a competant rig to begin with.

Why would a developer(orpublisher) put out a video for their game without playing it on the most finely tuned rig they could find? To even pretend that it's running on a crappy rig just shows how incompetent you must me.

for the same reason the Beta has graphical settings purposefully disabled.

that video...isnt a marketing video...its the actual tutorial on the mode thats included in-game...

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#16 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="LordMontezuma"]Can't prove what? That's an official video? Did you watch it, or am I talking to a blind defender of a game they've never played?LordMontezuma

Prove that its running on max settings. Heck, prove that it was even running on a competant rig to begin with.

Why would a developer(orpublisher) put out a video for their game without playing it on the most finely tuned rig they could find? To even pretend that it's running on a crappy rig just shows how incompetent you must me.

Prove it. I asked you once. I'll ask you again.
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="LordMontezuma"]Can't prove what? That's an official video? Did you watch it, or am I talking to a blind defender of a game they've never played?LordMontezuma

Prove that its running on max settings. Heck, prove that it was even running on a competant rig to begin with.

Why would a developer(orpublisher) put out a video for their game without playing it on the most finely tuned rig they could find? To even pretend that it's running on a crappy rig just shows how incompetent you must me.

For real. That's like showing MGS4 on the PS2 at 2 FPS, and being like "Oh well...we decided to run it on the PS2 because..."

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#18 agentfred
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That looked amazing though. Easily outclasses any console game.

Anyway, where was the downgrade?

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#19 PhoebusFlows
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by the way I am not saying it looks bad (we'd be fortunate if all games looked this good), but it's definitely not at the level of past videos. The water made me laugh, the ground concrete was all a blur (PD0 had better floor textures)

But I am willing to give this a chance and maybe, as the video says, it's a work in progress and they haven't finished the last touches yet and are concentrating on the gameplaymechanics first.

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#20 Vandalvideo
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by the way I am not saying it looks bad (we'd be fortunate if all games looked this good), but it's definitely not at the level of past videos. The water made me laugh, the ground concrete was all a blur (PD0 had better floor textures)

But I am willing to give this a chance and maybe, as the video says, it's a work in progress and they haven't finished the last touches yet and are concentrating on the gameplaymechanics first.

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Its a vide ofrom the first phase of the beta that had most of the high level graphics disabled and NO anti-aliasing.
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="LordMontezuma"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]PC gaems have, say it with me now, SETTINGS that can be changed. :oLordMontezuma

This would have been a valid point if this was not an official video which would obviously use the highest settings to advertise their games. Try again.

Actually, you can't prove that. You put it fourth, you prove it.

Can't prove what? That's an official video? Did you watch it, or am I talking to a blind defender of a game they've never played?

Yeah, it really isn't a matter of prooving his statement. It makes sense on its own. It would make sense for them to use favorable settings to make their game look good. Do you actually not agree with that?

What do you think of the video? Does it look good to you?

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#22 Vandalvideo
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Yeah, it really isn't a matter of prooving his statement. It makes sense on its own. It would make sense for them to use favorable settings to make their game look good. Do you actually not agree with that? What do you think of the video? Does it look good to you? flintgijoe
It was a trick question to begin with that had two parts. A) He couldn't have ever proven his statements and B) It was a video from the beta in which max settings and anti-aliasing were disabled, so his statements were already wrong to begin with.
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[QUOTE="flintgijoe"]Yeah, it really isn't a matter of prooving his statement. It makes sense on its own. It would make sense for them to use favorable settings to make their game look good. Do you actually not agree with that? What do you think of the video? Does it look good to you? Vandalvideo
It was a trick question to begin with that had two parts. A) He couldn't have ever proven his statements and B) It was a video from the beta in which max settings and anti-aliasing were disabled, so his statements were already wrong to begin with.

Fair enough. "Prove it" arguments to me are generraly weak sauce and a delay tactic at best, so i tend to try to shoot them down. Demonstarate that his idea is invalid by bringing up a superior idea, and I will listen.

Crysis will blow away all games graphically once it is released, if you have the hardware. This has become evident over time. Crysis's graphics look astonishing.

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#24 robokill
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the important question. If the graphics are mediocre and the gameplay isn't revolutionary and it doesn't score a really high review, will you people still try to stop us from having fun playing a fun game? That's all I care about really.
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Sweet, I'm downloading the demo. :D About an hour 20 minutes on the download. I'm dl'ing at about 375k/s, it doesn't say how big the file is. Anyone wanna bust out calculator.exe? :P
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#26 Vandalvideo
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Sweet, I'm downloading the demo. :D About an hour 20 minutes on the download. I'm dl'ing at about 375k/s, it doesn't say how big the file is. Anyone wanna bust out calculator.exe? :PZeliard9
you're downloading the crysis demo?
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[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]Sweet, I'm downloading the demo. :D About an hour 20 minutes on the download. I'm dl'ing at about 375k/s, it doesn't say how big the file is. Anyone wanna bust out calculator.exe? :PVandalvideo
you're downloading the crysis demo?

Yeah. If you had pre-ordered Crysis through EAstore.com, you get a 24 hour exclusive on the SP demo (including some other random stuff). You might still be able to do it, I dunno. I just pre-ordered it yesterday after I found out. Much as I dread to get anything directly from EA, much less something via digital download, this seemed worth it (especially since I might not get much time to play tomorrow or this weekend).

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#29 rimnet00
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Sweet, I'm downloading the demo. :D About an hour 20 minutes on the download. I'm dl'ing at about 375k/s, it doesn't say how big the file is. Anyone wanna bust out calculator.exe? :PZeliard9

WHERE?? oh em my gees

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#30 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Zeliard9"]Sweet, I'm downloading the demo. :D About an hour 20 minutes on the download. I'm dl'ing at about 375k/s, it doesn't say how big the file is. Anyone wanna bust out calculator.exe? :PZeliard9

you're downloading the crysis demo?

Yeah. If you had pre-ordered Crysis through EAstore.com, you get a 24 hour exclusive on the SP demo (including some other random stuff). You might still be able to do it, I dunno. I just pre-ordered it yesterday after I found out. Much as I dread to get anything directly from EA, much less something via digital download, this seemed worth it (especially since I might not get much time to play tomorrow or this weekend).

I'm good, I already have way too many games on my plate.
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#31 Zeliard9
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Though I wouldn't really bet against being able to acquire the demo through.... alternative means, by the end of tonight.
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]PC gaems have, say it with me now, SETTINGS that can be changed. :oLordMontezuma

This would have been a valid point if this was not an official video which would obviously use the highest settings to advertise their games. Try again.

that is the TUTORIAL shown for the BETA. They are going over GAMEPLAYaspectsrunning on the ACTUAL BETA BUILD which has a maximum of HIGH, not Very High, with no AA, no AF and only medium res textures.... It is also the MP.

PS - 90% of the videos are DX9 videos which means they aren't themaximum settings... SOOOO many things wrongwith your logic.

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Uhhhh, what?!
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#34 StephenHu
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Does "Work In Progress" mean anything at all to you?
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#35 SecretPolice
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Oh my... This seems suspect - why does this seem like a down grade ?

Maybe too much pre hype - Im afraid for the hermits on this one :o

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#36 Zeliard9
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Oh my... This seems suspect - why does this seem like a down grade ?

Maybe too much pre hype - Im afraid for the hermits on this one :o

SecretPolice

Read the thread, man. That video is from an unoptimized beta that's missing most of the higher graphical features.

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#37 -Sora
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PC gaems have, say it with me now, SETTINGS that can be changed. :oVandalvideo
can you confirm that with Bungie?
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http://www.gametrailers.com/player/25064.html (80 MB HD video, so that you can judge it properly. Give it time to load)

What happened? I was rooting for this game even though I wont be able to play it. The graphics do not look at good as the earlier breathtaking Crysis videos. And this is supposed to tbe the latest one.

Major disappointment. Someone tell me this was just badly compressed video or something, or even multiplayer or something for Crysis sake.

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Selfownage at its finest. Can you say video settings?

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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]PC gaems have, say it with me now, SETTINGS that can be changed. :oVandalvideo

Link?

-_-

that was actually really funny.

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#40 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Oh my... This seems suspect - why does this seem like a down grade ?

Maybe too much pre hype - Im afraid for the hermits on this one :o

Zeliard9

Read the thread, man. That video is from an unoptimized beta that's missing most of the higher graphical features.

I seen that but then others said otherwise.

Anyway, like I said this did seem suspect and I guess I still think it will look masterful it was just one of those - wth - things :)

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They had to downgrade because todays pc is not powerful enough for that game
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PC gaems have, say it with me now, SETTINGS that can be changed. :oVandalvideo
:lol:
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#43 cobrax25
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They had to downgrade because todays pc is not powerful enough for that gameBig_Black_Eyes

what do you suppose they have been running the game on?

again...let me explain to everyone...not only was the beta very poorly optimized...but it was missing many graphical effects...and as always...multiplayer never looks as good as singleplayer.

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That DX9 with settings lowered for better framerates...
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You do know that that's the MP beta (name one MP game which looks better), which has many settings disabled, and is in DX9, correct? When will you people ever learn........
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#46 agentfred
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They had to downgrade because todays pc is not powerful enough for that gameBig_Black_Eyes

Do you consider 8000 series graphics cards, part of a "future PC"? I'm pretty sure they are modern day chips.

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Downgrade complete!
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#48 trix5817
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by the way I am not saying it looks bad (we'd be fortunate if all games looked this good), but it's definitely not at the level of past videos. The water made me laugh, the ground concrete was all a blur (PD0 had better floor textures)

But I am willing to give this a chance and maybe, as the video says, it's a work in progress and they haven't finished the last touches yet and are concentrating on the gameplaymechanics first.

PhoebusFlows

The water looks much better than it does in that video. But I guess you wouldn't know, considering you have never played the beta.

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#49 Cali3350
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PC Games dont get downgraded. Ever.

The MP beta is limited to Medium settings and the DX9 codepath. That video is Crysis MP on medium. Still looks better then any console.

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#50 killzowned24
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looks terrible for a offical video, jaggies everywhere.