What If Dragon Age Origins was a Real Time RPG

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for MetalGearSolidZ
MetalGearSolidZ

497

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#1 MetalGearSolidZ
Member since 2009 • 497 Posts

I think it would make the game so much better and would have recieved higher scores and much more hype. It would have made me like the game a lot more.

Avatar image for Vaasman
Vaasman

15883

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#2 Vaasman
Member since 2008 • 15883 Posts

If you played this game without pausing you'd probably die in about 10 seconds unless you play easy on consoles.

Avatar image for heysharpshooter
heysharpshooter

6348

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#3 heysharpshooter
Member since 2009 • 6348 Posts

I think Dragon Age's combat was excellent. It was a nice change of pace from the real time combat found in most games nowaday.

Avatar image for 67gt500
67gt500

4627

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 9

User Lists: 0

#4 67gt500
Member since 2003 • 4627 Posts
Play it on the casual setting and it pretty much IS real time...
Avatar image for 88mphSlayer
88mphSlayer

3201

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#5 88mphSlayer
Member since 2010 • 3201 Posts

If you played this game without pausing you'd probably die in about 10 seconds unless you play easy on consoles.

Vaasman

i actually played the 360 version this way as a warrior on normal, it was a **** to play, didn't help that i had no idea how to use my mates properly, and yes i managed to beat the game

got the game on PC and played as a mage and always paused battle, makes the game so much easier and more fun

Avatar image for Snagal123
Snagal123

3524

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#6 Snagal123
Member since 2006 • 3524 Posts

What does real time combat in a RPG like Dragon Age mean?

Like God of War or Darksiders or something? Where i press A and B in different combos? If thats what you mean i'm not sure, would remove alot of tactical depth but i don't know how else you mean real time, its not a shooter so you can't do it like ME.

Avatar image for arto1223
arto1223

4412

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#7 arto1223
Member since 2005 • 4412 Posts

If you played this game without pausing you'd probably die in about 10 seconds unless you play easy on consoles.

Vaasman

This. I would micro-manage like it was candy... I don't know if that saying fits, but I did play it very much like an old school game.

Avatar image for MetalGearSolidZ
MetalGearSolidZ

497

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#8 MetalGearSolidZ
Member since 2009 • 497 Posts

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

If you played this game without pausing you'd probably die in about 10 seconds unless you play easy on consoles.

88mphSlayer

i actually played the 360 version this way as a warrior on normal, it was a **** to play, didn't help that i had no idea how to use my mates properly, and yes i managed to beat the game

got the game on PC and played as a mage and always paused battle, makes the game so much easier and more fun

I just got the PC version and I like it a lot (about 30 minutes into the game) but feel the game had more potential as a real time RPG
Avatar image for SolarEclipze
SolarEclipze

214

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#9 SolarEclipze
Member since 2009 • 214 Posts

play it on easy on the consoles and it is all real time. I think i had to pause it a few times on normal, and that was during [spoiler] the prison break sequence, the underground level, and the end game [/spoiler] so im sure easy wouldve been cake :P

Avatar image for kaigani
kaigani

50

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#10 kaigani
Member since 2004 • 50 Posts

If You play as a mage you need to be able to stop the action to choose your next spell. there is just too much that you need to manage. The game would also need to be dumbed way down for it to be a real time rpg

Avatar image for ronvalencia
ronvalencia

29612

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#11 ronvalencia
Member since 2008 • 29612 Posts

I think it would make the game so much better and would have recieved higher scores and much more hype. It would have made me like the game a lot more.

MetalGearSolidZ

DA is pretty much real time with pause capability. Pause usage can be reduced with a proper keyboard bindings. The game has to factor in Xbox 360 controller i.e. which doesn't provide enough buttons.

Avatar image for deactivated-63f6895020e66
deactivated-63f6895020e66

21177

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#12 deactivated-63f6895020e66
Member since 2004 • 21177 Posts
You mean Action RPG. And the game was built around pause + attack. Making it an action RPG would have not worked that well.
Avatar image for blaaah
blaaah

236

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#13 blaaah
Member since 2003 • 236 Posts

I just got the PC version and I like it a lot (about 30 minutes into the game) but feel the game had more potential as a real time RPGMetalGearSolidZ
I think you are confusing the term "real time" with action RPG. Dragon Age has real time combat, meaning it isn't turn based. Your characters and your enemies will continue to make basic attacks unless you tell them to do otherwise.

To answer your question: No, Dragon Age would not be better with direct player control. Why? Because there are a billion other action RPGs out there to choose from. The appeal of Dragon Age is that it plays like an old school RPG mechanics.

Avatar image for DoomZaW
DoomZaW

6475

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 10

User Lists: 0

#14 DoomZaW
Member since 2007 • 6475 Posts

If DA:O was something at likes of demon souls, i'd be screwed if i had to rely on the A.I to heal me :?

Avatar image for PSdual_wielder
PSdual_wielder

10646

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#15 PSdual_wielder
Member since 2003 • 10646 Posts

You could play real time if you want, but it would be hell for you. On the higher difficulty settings, the game requires you to be extremely tactical, so planning your attacks during pause is a must.

Avatar image for delta3074
delta3074

20003

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#16 delta3074
Member since 2007 • 20003 Posts
all i did was set the last tactics slot on each of my allies to drink health potion if health drops below 25% and i just control my main character and i only found myself pauseing the game during the fade levels, my advice to 360 owneres is to pretty much leave the default tactics slots for each character alone, bioware took a lot of time and effort to get those right and they work really well
Avatar image for surrealnumber5
surrealnumber5

23044

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#17 surrealnumber5
Member since 2008 • 23044 Posts
DA:O is a great game and fine as is
Avatar image for windsquid9000
windsquid9000

3206

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#18 windsquid9000
Member since 2009 • 3206 Posts

Pair that with only having to manage one character and I would've bought it.

Avatar image for surrealnumber5
surrealnumber5

23044

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#19 surrealnumber5
Member since 2008 • 23044 Posts

Pair that with only having to manage one character and I would've bought it.

windsquid9000
tactics lets your party do the work and you will only have to micro your main man
Avatar image for windsquid9000
windsquid9000

3206

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#20 windsquid9000
Member since 2009 • 3206 Posts
[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

Pair that with only having to manage one character and I would've bought it.

surrealnumber5
tactics lets your party do the work and you will only have to micro your main man

I'm only interested if I can kill everyone on the screen.
Avatar image for heysharpshooter
heysharpshooter

6348

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#21 heysharpshooter
Member since 2009 • 6348 Posts

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

Pair that with only having to manage one character and I would've bought it.

windsquid9000

tactics lets your party do the work and you will only have to micro your main man

I'm only interested if I can kill everyone on the screen.

Then this game is not for you.

Avatar image for windsquid9000
windsquid9000

3206

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#22 windsquid9000
Member since 2009 • 3206 Posts

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] tactics lets your party do the work and you will only have to micro your main manheysharpshooter

I'm only interested if I can kill everyone on the screen.

Then this game is not for you.

Which is why I didn't buy it. :P Kinda wish there was a PC version of Demon's Souls, but there isn't so I'll just get over it and go play something else.
Avatar image for jg4xchamp
jg4xchamp

64060

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 14

User Lists: 0

#23 jg4xchamp
Member since 2006 • 64060 Posts
depends. Alot of the concepts, stats, loot, etc is built around the isometric system I prefer the action-RPG approach as I like more complete control and less number crunching, but DragonAge just couldn't be done real time without changing alot about it. plus for whats its worth, while instant gratification is something Action titles and Action RPGs definantly do better, there is something so incredibly satisfying about seeing your character evolve into the eventual beast you turn him into as the game progresses :)
Avatar image for Cali3350
Cali3350

16134

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#24 Cali3350
Member since 2003 • 16134 Posts

Dragon Age is the best RPG since The Witcher, and no I dont agree.

NEEDING to plan ahead every single action and advancement in battle is what I loved about that game. I hear the console versions are sad imitations due to no AOE friendly fire and the like but play the game on PC, Isometric, on the hardest difficulty, and its the best damn game youve played in a very long time.

Avatar image for surrealnumber5
surrealnumber5

23044

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#25 surrealnumber5
Member since 2008 • 23044 Posts
[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

Pair that with only having to manage one character and I would've bought it.

windsquid9000
tactics lets your party do the work and you will only have to micro your main man

I'm only interested if I can kill everyone on the screen.

be a blood mage
Avatar image for longtonguecat
longtonguecat

2558

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#26 longtonguecat
Member since 2008 • 2558 Posts

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]I'm only interested if I can kill everyone on the screen.windsquid9000

Then this game is not for you.

Which is why I didn't buy it. :P Kinda wish there was a PC version of Demon's Souls, but there isn't so I'll just get over it and go play something else.

Diablo III... When it comes out? :P

Avatar image for windsquid9000
windsquid9000

3206

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#27 windsquid9000
Member since 2009 • 3206 Posts

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

Then this game is not for you.

longtonguecat

Which is why I didn't buy it. :P Kinda wish there was a PC version of Demon's Souls, but there isn't so I'll just get over it and go play something else.

Diablo III... When it comes out? :P

Looking forward to it, but judging by this review, I think I'd still prefer DS because of the camera angle and controls. D3 will have to fill the void :cry:

Avatar image for AdrianWerner
AdrianWerner

28441

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#28 AdrianWerner
Member since 2003 • 28441 Posts

Doesn't make sense. DA is all about tactical combat, which action rpgs don't really do. Plus ME2 is out..two months after DA, so this way both tactical and action fans get their share of fun

Avatar image for methinksyou
methinksyou

393

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#29 methinksyou
Member since 2010 • 393 Posts
IT IS A REAL TIME RPG...with pause. There also are RTS with pause...
Avatar image for Shielder7
Shielder7

5191

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

#30 Shielder7
Member since 2006 • 5191 Posts

I think it would make the game so much better and would have recieved higher scores and much more hype. It would have made me like the game a lot more.

MetalGearSolidZ
In order for Dragon Age to be good it would have to remake that whole crappy engine Bioware made for it.
Avatar image for Shielder7
Shielder7

5191

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

#31 Shielder7
Member since 2006 • 5191 Posts

Doesn't make sense. DA is all about tactical combat, which action rpgs don't really do. Plus ME2 is out..two months after DA, so this way both tactical and action fans get their share of fun

AdrianWerner
There is no tactics in DA. The AI is dumb no matter what you're difficulty level and the same strategy applies. Kill casters first more mages you have = easier, not hard to catch on. Brain dead single player shooters have more tactics than DA heck even checkers vs a 5 year old.
Avatar image for LiquidSnake1001
LiquidSnake1001

673

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#32 LiquidSnake1001
Member since 2009 • 673 Posts
I wish it was real time, I don't mind the pausing like in ME but it would be good if you could do combos and have a button to block but I understand this game was made for all you old school guys.
Avatar image for deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a

26108

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 28

User Lists: 0

#33 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
Member since 2008 • 26108 Posts
I wonder that myself, but still, I like it this way.
Avatar image for Parasomniac
Parasomniac

2723

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#34 Parasomniac
Member since 2007 • 2723 Posts

It would be like Demon's Souls but easier and with a better story.

Avatar image for 3KindgomsRandy
3KindgomsRandy

15488

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#35 3KindgomsRandy
Member since 2005 • 15488 Posts

[QUOTE="MetalGearSolidZ"] I just got the PC version and I like it a lot (about 30 minutes into the game) but feel the game had more potential as a real time RPGblaaah

I think you are confusing the term "real time" with action RPG. Dragon Age has real time combat, meaning it isn't turn based. Your characters and your enemies will continue to make basic attacks unless you tell them to do otherwise.

To answer your question: No, Dragon Age would not be better with direct player control. Why? Because there are a billion other action RPGs out there to choose from. The appeal of Dragon Age is that it plays like an old school RPG mechanics.

This. Definitely this.

Avatar image for xsubtownerx
xsubtownerx

10705

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 11

User Lists: 0

#36 xsubtownerx
Member since 2007 • 10705 Posts
No more dumbing down RPGs for the NUBZ!
Avatar image for h575309
h575309

8551

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#37 h575309
Member since 2005 • 8551 Posts

No. The combat was perfect the way it was. And it was actually nice and challenging.

Avatar image for blue_hazy_basic
blue_hazy_basic

30854

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#38 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
Member since 2002 • 30854 Posts
You can tell the difference between the people who played on their consoles and the people who played on the PC in this thread.
Avatar image for xsubtownerx
xsubtownerx

10705

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 11

User Lists: 0

#39 xsubtownerx
Member since 2007 • 10705 Posts
You can tell the difference between the people who played on their consoles and the people who played on the PC in this thread.blue_hazy_basic
I'm offended by that. :(
Avatar image for blue_hazy_basic
blue_hazy_basic

30854

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#40 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
Member since 2002 • 30854 Posts

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]You can tell the difference between the people who played on their consoles and the people who played on the PC in this thread.xsubtownerx
I'm offended by that. :(

No offence meant, I was just meaning in terms of difficulty. You CAN'T survive on the PC without pausing constantly, even at the lowest level.

Avatar image for AdrianWerner
AdrianWerner

28441

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#41 AdrianWerner
Member since 2003 • 28441 Posts

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Doesn't make sense. DA is all about tactical combat, which action rpgs don't really do. Plus ME2 is out..two months after DA, so this way both tactical and action fans get their share of fun

Shielder7

There is no tactics in DA. The AI is dumb no matter what you're difficulty level and the same strategy applies. Kill casters first more mages you have = easier, not hard to catch on. Brain dead single player shooters have more tactics than DA heck even checkers vs a 5 year old.

Sorry, but no. Maybe you played just the consoole version, where the difficulty is simply laughable (and I'm not being a fanboy here, the difficulty in console versions is really cripped, to the point where the hardest console setting is much easier than PC medium). But on PC you need to do a lot of thinking to pull through the game, it's one of hardest challenges games have provided in recent years. Also..even if you could use the same strategy over and over again like a machine it would still be ten times more tactical than pure SP shooters

Avatar image for CleanNJerk
CleanNJerk

2104

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#42 CleanNJerk
Member since 2009 • 2104 Posts
I like it the way it is. But it's pretty hard. nShould be compared with Demon's Souls.
Avatar image for spinecaton
spinecaton

8986

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#43 spinecaton
Member since 2003 • 8986 Posts

If Dragon Age had guns it would have scored higher and I would have enjoyed it more.

Avatar image for CleanNJerk
CleanNJerk

2104

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#44 CleanNJerk
Member since 2009 • 2104 Posts
oh so 9.5, 9, and 8.5 isn't high enough for you!?
Avatar image for xsubtownerx
xsubtownerx

10705

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 11

User Lists: 0

#45 xsubtownerx
Member since 2007 • 10705 Posts

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]You can tell the difference between the people who played on their consoles and the people who played on the PC in this thread.blue_hazy_basic

I'm offended by that. :(

No offence meant, I was just meaning in terms of difficulty. You CAN'T survive on the PC without pausing constantly, even at the lowest level.

Well to be fair, you can't survive nightmare difficulty (on consoles) without pausing either. You just can't. The only time you could get away with not pausing is if you played it on casual.
Avatar image for johncraven
johncraven

1232

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#46 johncraven
Member since 2006 • 1232 Posts

no no no no

turn-based Baldur's Gate-style FTW

dont fix something that's not broken.

maybe it sucked on the consoles with pausing, I don't know, because the only version worth playing is PC and its fine there.

Avatar image for Kan0nF0dder
Kan0nF0dder

1962

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#47 Kan0nF0dder
Member since 2009 • 1962 Posts

Are you suggesting it woulda been better as a hack'n'slash? that's crazy man, I want to test my brain not my button combos :lol:

Avatar image for h575309
h575309

8551

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#48 h575309
Member since 2005 • 8551 Posts

The combat (on the PC) is what makes Dragon Age amazing. The characters are cool, and the story is alright, but the combat makes killing so thrilling :P

Fighting the high dragon was one of the most memorable gaming moments this gen for me.