What if Killzone 2 looks worst than E3 2005 but better than anything on 360?

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#1 nnavidson
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What if Killzone 2 looks worst than E3 2005 but better than anything on 360? Who gets to claim ownage then?

I ask because it's one scenario we haven't really discussed and could well end up happening.

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#2 OldParr
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then u guys can take the trone when it comes to console graphics.simple
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#3 Supafly1
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What if Killzone 2 looks worst than E3 2005 but better than anything on 360? Who gets to claim ownage then?

I ask because it's one scenario we haven't really discussed and could well end up happening.

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#4 ZeroskylineD
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killzone 2 has been in production for a while now im pretty sure its gonna beway more then we expect :D
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#5 01SniperWolf
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Killzone 2 has a massive budget, it's going to look amazing, it has to or Sony lose a lot of credibility. If it plays well is another story.
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#6 Dahaka-UK
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What difference does it make if it's like the the E3 trailer or slightly better than anything xbox 360 can do... It would be better than any 360 game either way. :? Anyway I don't think it's going to be anything like the trailer, it will be downgraded like HALO3 :|
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#7 desktopdefender
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They get owned for saying the game would look like that

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#8 OldParr
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im sorry u guys been hearing bad news for the last 3 years.i guess is tie for u guys to get something.im really considering the ps3 but in the meantime im more hype for halo than any other game out there.well except for crysis but no money to upgrade so is halo all the way.

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#9 Echo13791
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It is possible for it to look somewhat like the trailer (not quite as good though). I have no doubt it will be pretty, but i have my worries about the gameplay. If its good i will be very happy though, we need good shooters on the PS3
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#10 Dahaka-UK
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im sorry u guys been hearing bad news for the last 3 years.i guess is tie for u guys to get something.im really considering the ps3 but in the meantime im more hype for halo than any other game out there.well except for crysis but no money to upgrade so is halo all the way.

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PS3 has not been out for 3 years, :| 8 months it's been duhh.. and 360 has it's share of bad news. :lol:

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Killzone 2 has a massive budget, it's going to look amazing, it has to or Sony lose a lot of credibility. If it plays well is another story.01SniperWolf

As if Sony hasnt already lost their credibility... Your about a year and 4 months late (spring launch). :lol:

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#12 AdultsOnly
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What difference does it make if it's like the the E3 trailer or slightly better than anything xbox 360 can do... It would be better than any 360 game either way. :? Anyway I don't think it's going to be anything like the trailer, it will be downgraded like HALO3 :|Dahaka-UK

When did Halo3 get downgraded? Just curious.

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#13 Dahaka-UK
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Killzone 2 has a massive budget, it's going to look amazing, it has to or Sony lose a lot of credibility. If it plays well is another story.01SniperWolf

It really doesn't matter if killzone 2 flops or not or will just be considered teh HALO3 killer in the end... and I'm sure PS3 will have equaly better games coming out than some generic first person shooter..

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#14 DA_B0MB
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Killzone 2 is one of the most anticipated things to ever be anticipated in SW. Tommorow will be so fun! :D
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#15 darthogre
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Well if it looks worse than the CGI video we saw, who is going to honestly be disappointed?

Everyone does realize that video is not going to be possible right? It's the small things that made the video amazing. The X360 and PS3 have yet to prove they could even come close to that video.

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#16 Dahaka-UK
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[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]What difference does it make if it's like the the E3 trailer or slightly better than anything xbox 360 can do... It would be better than any 360 game either way. :? Anyway I don't think it's going to be anything like the trailer, it will be downgraded like HALO3 :|AdultsOnly

When did Halo3 get downgraded? Just curious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXrYSEOg3Ro Since the E3 trailer. Apparently it was ingame... zomg the shock... no it wasn't..


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#17 DA_B0MB
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Well if it looks worse than the CGI video we saw, who is going to honestly be disappointed?

Everyone does realize that video is not going to be possible right? It's the small things that made the video amazing. The X360 and PS3 have yet to prove they could even come close to that video.

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Agreed. Honestly, I'm only expecting a few things to be similar to the trailer. I expect that same general art direction the most. That AI simply cannot be done. Smoke effect should be at least close to the trailer. The amount of action we can expect to see in the game remains a big question. I can't wait to get the answers. :twisted:

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#18 HostileEffect
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I think the graphics in that video are very possible on the PC and PS3, probably even the X360. Crysis has surpassed that CGI trailer so... yeah... with the right developers, I'm sure the PS3 could pull it off.
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#19 desktopdefender
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[QUOTE="AdultsOnly"]

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]What difference does it make if it's like the the E3 trailer or slightly better than anything xbox 360 can do... It would be better than any 360 game either way. :? Anyway I don't think it's going to be anything like the trailer, it will be downgraded like HALO3 :|Dahaka-UK

When did Halo3 get downgraded? Just curious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXrYSEOg3Ro Since the E3 trailer. Apparently it was ingame... zomg the shock... no it wasn't..


Lets just wait till we can play that part in the final game and see how it looks;)
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#20 OldParr
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[QUOTE="OldParr"]

im sorry u guys been hearing bad news for the last 3 years.i guess is tie for u guys to get something.im really considering the ps3 but in the meantime im more hype for halo than any other game out there.well except for crysis but no money to upgrade so is halo all the way.

Dahaka-UK

PS3 has not been out for 3 years, :| 8 months it's been duhh.. and 360 has it's share of bad news. :lol:

i said bad news.delays,price,no games,controllers,graphics,bad ports.yeah those kind of bad news is being around for 3 years

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#21 Kiuk
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Sony would have still lied so .... = cows = raped
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#22 Kestastrophe
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I'm sure PS3 will have equaly better games coming out than some generic first person shooter..

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Teh contradiction. "I'm sure it will have equally good games......but better".

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Killzone 2 has a massive budget, it's going to look amazing, it has to or Sony lose a lot of credibility. If it plays well is another story.01SniperWolf

By that logic, that makes Waterworld and every Uwe Boll film amazing. And I believe Sony has very little credibility left at this point in time :lol:

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#24 FatalDomain
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What if Killzone 2 looks worst than E3 2005 but better than anything on 360? Who gets to claim ownage then?

I ask because it's one scenario we haven't really discussed and could well end up happening.

nnavidson

In all honesty if it looks better than Resistance, the Sony clan will jump for joy and claim victory. Just think back to all of the Resistance vs. Gears threads where the boards were on fire because the PS3 finally had a good game. If KZ2 gets a AAA review, its going to be bananas on system wars!!!

Game On...

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#25 FatalDomain
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[QUOTE="01SniperWolf"]Killzone 2 has a massive budget, it's going to look amazing, it has to or Sony lose a lot of credibility. If it plays well is another story.MegaPigeon

By that logic, that makes Waterworld and every Uwe Boll film amazing. And I believe Sony has very little credibility left at this point in time :lol:

I went to see Waterworld in the theater on the opening weekend.... :cry:

Game On...

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[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"]

[QUOTE="01SniperWolf"]Killzone 2 has a massive budget, it's going to look amazing, it has to or Sony lose a lot of credibility. If it plays well is another story.FatalDomain

By that logic, that makes Waterworld and every Uwe Boll film amazing. And I believe Sony has very little credibility left at this point in time :lol:

I went to see Waterworld in the theater on the opening weekend.... :cry:

Game On...

So did I, and it still failed miserably.

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#27 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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It would have to look pretty good then so there would be no ownage on the ps fans.
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#28 nnavidson
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[QUOTE="nnavidson"]

What if Killzone 2 looks worst than E3 2005 but better than anything on 360? Who gets to claim ownage then?

I ask because it's one scenario we haven't really discussed and could well end up happening.

FatalDomain

In all honesty if it looks better than Resistance, the Sony clan will jump for joy and claim victory. Just think back to all of the Resistance vs. Gears threads where the boards were on fire because the PS3 finally had a good game. If KZ2 gets a AAA review, its going to be bananas on system wars!!!

Game On...

Yeah, it must have really rough for cows finally getting a good game on launch day.

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#29 KirbyFan10101
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Theres more to a game than graphics. Look at the GTA games. Theres alot more to prove with KZ2 than just looking pretty.
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#30 bleehum
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Why does everyone use the trailer from E3 2005 as a benchmark for Killzone 2's graphics? It has already been proven that the trailer was CGI, and everyone already knows it won't look as good as the trailer. It's just plain stupid to use it as a benchmark, because you're just looking for easy "ownage." How it SHOULD be "rated" in terms of graphics, is if it doesn't look better than Gears of War, or most games, THEN you can claim "ownage." Otherwise, you're going to be denied.
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#31 VoodooHak
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Theres more to a game than graphics. Look at the GTA games. Theres alot more to prove with KZ2 than just looking pretty.KirbyFan10101

Except that media and fan focus is on the graphics of this game since that's exactly what Sony tried to show off in the trailer.

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#32 Filonus
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What if Killzone 2 looks worst than E3 2005 but better than anything on 360? Who gets to claim ownage then?

I ask because it's one scenario we haven't really discussed and could well end up happening.

nnavidson

this willmost likely be the case

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#33 xxxWigginsxxx
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I think it's possible for Killzone 2 to look very close to the trailer, but I dont think it will move as smooth as the trailer though.
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that is not gonna happen!
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#35 swanlee
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The problem is if it looks worse than E3 2005, it would not look better than anything on the 360. Looking worse than e3 05 would put it squarely in the range of Gears of War or COD4. So your question is not really possible.
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#36 duble_Needler23
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I dont question that the game could, graphically, look as good as the trailer shown. I honestly think the PS3 is capable of that, not to mention the huge budget, and plenty of time guerilla has had to polish the game. I think they could pull that particular part off...but someone else already said why there is no way in hell it can come close to (OVERALL) looking as good as that E3 2005 trailer: the little things. Your AI teammates constantly moving around, looking at the sky to watch for enemy aircraft, yelling out tons of different commands, changing facial expressions every second...the reality that sucks is that although the game will no doubt be gorgeous, it cant possibly live up to that E3 05 trailer. The whole thing was scripted, so it felt epic...they'll be scripted events in the game, but it wont be able to replicate that feeling of the trailer...no way in hell.
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#37 lespaul1919
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very possible.
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#38 Killfox
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Ok yes sony said that that trailer was in engine or what ever. It was not GG. If i would GG. I would be pissed at sony for saying something that is imposible. I think the game will look really good. They have a lot more man power and a lot more money to work with. They should be able to pull off something pretty amazing.
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from a graphical and texture standpoint that trailer could be done. from a pure animation standpoint. HECK NO. those animations were way to smooth and almost flawless. The trailer was to along the lines of a movie. so yes it can match the textures, graphics, detail, etc but the animations will get a downgrade. overall it will be a good looking game, but ITs killzone.
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#40 mynamesdenvrmax
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Even if it looked better, it would never play better. PS3 = Terrible FPS

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#41 Killfox
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Even if it looked better, it would never play better. PS3 = Terrible FPS

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Resistance already proved you wrong.

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#42 CR00K
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Killzone 2 is one of the most anticipated things to ever be anticipated in SW. Tommorow will be so fun! :DDA_B0MB
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