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Better cut scenes, more music, maybe more detailed, varying environments, more movies. From what ive seen, the cut scenes look like there gonna be in engine, so it probably wont benefit. But the environments, from the screens ive seen, look boring and empty. Needs more stuff in it.coolguy1111He doesn't know. He is assuming. Fanboys like to predict things.....when they obviously have no idea.
Better cut scenes, more music, maybe more detailed, varying environments, more movies. From what ive seen, the cut scenes look like there gonna be in engine, so it probably wont benefit. But the environments, from the screens ive seen, look boring and empty. Needs more stuff in it.coolguy1111a) The cut scenes are in-engine so no. b) There are already over 100 places to visit so no again to varying enviroments. c) music? was that sarcasm:P d) movies? again, everything is "in-engine." e) Soo.....you are basing all 100+ enviroments on the 10 or so screens you've seen?
The cows seem to think that this could happen any day now. :| I think they fail to realize the development time a game that large would take.cecx
Better cut scenes, more music, maybe more detailed, varying environments, more movies. From what ive seen, the cut scenes look like there gonna be in engine, so it probably wont benefit. But the environments, from the screens ive seen, look boring and empty. Needs more stuff in it.coolguy1111And is this because they said DVD9 was limiting them...
[QUOTE="cecx"]The cows seem to think that this could happen any day now. :| I think they fail to realize the development time a game that large would take.cakeorrdeath
[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="cecx"]The cows seem to think that this could happen any day now. :| I think they fail to realize the development time a game that large would take.FearlessSpirit
[QUOTE="cecx"]The cows seem to think that this could happen any day now. :| I think they fail to realize the development time a game that large would take.cakeorrdeath
Resistance maybe, but Motor Storm does not use the Blu-Ray disc to its highest potential. From the EDGE magazine preview in regards to Blu-Ray:
"Again, it's one of those things - it's a great opportunity like 1080p," says Southern when asked about Blu-Ray. "These things are all here to be exploited. But like PS2 development, as soon as you hit the barriers you've got to spend an awful lot of energy breaking down those barriers." With impeccable timing, programmer Scott Kirkland enters the room. "One of the things Blu-Ray lets us do is get every single version of the game on one disc," he says. "We're pretty set on having one version of the Motor Storm binary for all territories, though, so it's not really going to help us this time. We've got lots of ideas for future products, where we're looking at streaming texture and geometry data from the Blu-Ray into the hard-drive cache, but I don't think Motor Storm is going to push that."
I was just asking myself if there was more space available, maybe there would be more space to explore and the immersion would be bigger. KOTOR was cool, but I found it disapointing that you could only visit 4 planets.No, I'm sick of this. It'd have the same content.
It'd be the same game.
jvonrader
[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="cecx"]The cows seem to think that this could happen any day now. :| I think they fail to realize the development time a game that large would take.-Spock-
Resistance maybe, but Motor Storm does not use the Blu-Ray disc to its highest potential. From the EDGE magazine preview in regards to Blu-Ray:
"Again, it's one of those things - it's a great opportunity like 1080p," says Southern when asked about Blu-Ray. "These things are all here to be exploited. But like PS2 development, as soon as you hit the barriers you've got to spend an awful lot of energy breaking down those barriers." With impeccable timing, programmer Scott Kirkland enters the room. "One of the things Blu-Ray lets us do is get every single version of the game on one disc," he says. "We're pretty set on having one version of the Motor Storm binary for all territories, though, so it's not really going to help us this time. We've got lots of ideas for future products, where we're looking at streaming texture and geometry data from the Blu-Ray into the hard-drive cache, but I don't think Motor Storm is going to push that."
[QUOTE="-Spock-"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="cecx"]The cows seem to think that this could happen any day now. :| I think they fail to realize the development time a game that large would take.cakeorrdeath
Resistance maybe, but Motor Storm does not use the Blu-Ray disc to its highest potential. From the EDGE magazine preview in regards to Blu-Ray:
"Again, it's one of those things - it's a great opportunity like 1080p," says Southern when asked about Blu-Ray. "These things are all here to be exploited. But like PS2 development, as soon as you hit the barriers you've got to spend an awful lot of energy breaking down those barriers." With impeccable timing, programmer Scott Kirkland enters the room. "One of the things Blu-Ray lets us do is get every single version of the game on one disc," he says. "We're pretty set on having one version of the Motor Storm binary for all territories, though, so it's not really going to help us this time. We've got lots of ideas for future products, where we're looking at streaming texture and geometry data from the Blu-Ray into the hard-drive cache, but I don't think Motor Storm is going to push that."
Well, I am agreeing with your sarcasm. These games aren't pushing the technology just yet like you say.
Well, I am agreeing with your sarcasm. These games aren't pushing the technology just yet like you say.
-Spock-
[QUOTE="-Spock-"]Well, I am agreeing with your sarcasm. These games aren't pushing the technology just yet like you say.
cakeorrdeath
[QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Better cut scenes, more music, maybe more detailed, varying environments, more movies. From what ive seen, the cut scenes look like there gonna be in engine, so it probably wont benefit. But the environments, from the screens ive seen, look boring and empty. Needs more stuff in it.BioShockOwnzHe doesn't know. He is assuming. Fanboys like to predict things.....when they obviously have no idea. How am i pedicting? It could have longer, more, and better looking CGI/FMV. Thats the point of blu-ray, as of now. Also it could have more sound. And show me a picture that disproves Mass Effect sint in-engine? And amount of stuff in the envorenments and level design, or here the lack of, doesnt have anything to do with blu-ray, this game just has boring environments that arnt detailed. Look at Crysis, then look at this.
[QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Better cut scenes, more music, maybe more detailed, varying environments, more movies. From what ive seen, the cut scenes look like there gonna be in engine, so it probably wont benefit. But the environments, from the screens ive seen, look boring and empty. Needs more stuff in it.OemeniaAnd is this because they said DVD9 was limiting them... How does that have ANYTHING to do with what i said? DVD9 will limit a game dev if there using alot of music, FMV, or CGI. End of story lemming.
[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Better cut scenes, more music, maybe more detailed, varying environments, more movies. From what ive seen, the cut scenes look like there gonna be in engine, so it probably wont benefit. But the environments, from the screens ive seen, look boring and empty. Needs more stuff in it.coolguy1111He doesn't know. He is assuming. Fanboys like to predict things.....when they obviously have no idea. How am i pedicting? It could have longer, more, and better looking CGI/FMV. Thats the point of blu-ray, as of now. Also it could have more sound. And show me a picture that disproves Mass Effect sint in-engine? And amount of stuff in the envorenments and level design, or here the lack of, doesnt have anything to do with blu-ray, this game just has boring environments that arnt detailed. Look at Crysis, then look at this. But I have yet to see that be put to use. Sure Resistance uses up a lot of space, but it is definitley either filler or uncompressed, because there is nothing in that game I haven't seen in another game. The extra space on Blu-Ray will NOT be put to use this early in the console cycle, because it will cost even more to dev. If it does happen....it'll take a few years. Also not everything will run better on the PS3 because of the split 256/256 RAM, and the 2x's Blu-Ray Drive. Sure it will help if the game has an option to download a portion of the game to the HDD, but that just shows it is a little crippled.Â
[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Better cut scenes, more music, maybe more detailed, varying environments, more movies. From what ive seen, the cut scenes look like there gonna be in engine, so it probably wont benefit. But the environments, from the screens ive seen, look boring and empty. Needs more stuff in it.BioShockOwnzHe doesn't know. He is assuming. Fanboys like to predict things.....when they obviously have no idea. How am i pedicting? It could have longer, more, and better looking CGI/FMV. Thats the point of blu-ray, as of now. Also it could have more sound. And show me a picture that disproves Mass Effect sint in-engine? And amount of stuff in the envorenments and level design, or here the lack of, doesnt have anything to do with blu-ray, this game just has boring environments that arnt detailed. Look at Crysis, then look at this. But I have yet to see that be put to use. Sure Resistance uses up a lot of space, but it is definitley either filler or uncompressed, because there is nothing in that game I haven't seen in another game. The extra space on Blu-Ray will NOT be put to used this early in the console cycle, because it will cost even more to dev. If it does happen....it'll take a few years. Also not everything will run better on the PS3 because of the split 256/256 RAM, and the 2x's Blu-Ray Drive. Sure it will help if the game has an option to download a portion of the game to the HDD, but that just shows it is a little crippled. No FPS will fill a DVD in atleast 3 years, its the RPGs and games with alot of music/cgi/fmv. Which the Sony consoles usually have alot of. MGS, FF, all those other crazy jrpgs.
Would that make a difference. I read the interview that you can explore over 100 worlds in ME.I think there is a fatal flaw with your Blu-Ray logic. You assume that storage space is the limitation on the 100 worlds in ME. While a more logical view is that development cost and design time are the limitations on the amount of worlds in ME. Just because you could fit 1000 worlds on a Blu-Ray disc does not mean that the developers WOULD make 1000 worlds.
What if Bioware had HD DVD or Blu Ray. Do you think that would've effected the content. Maybe whe would've got more content. more space to explore.
I dont see how bioware can get over 100 world to explore on 1 dvd9.
acekall
You are a bunch of young whipersnappers, I remeber the days that games came on floppy disks, and 150KB was considered huge. I doubt you will see a game that requires 50gb of data anytime soon. The technoligy behind making the artwork, and meshes for the games will have to improve before we see a game of that size. 50gb is a huge amount of data and it will take some time before it happens, plus you wont see untill the XB has a simular size disk, no developer wants to corner themsevels into an island, that requires BR. Don't belive sony's hype the inclusion of blue ray was so they could try and bury HD-DVD, by claiming every PS3 sold is a blue ray player sold, nothing more nothing less. Could it be used to make a large game, yes, but don't think all that space will goto meshes, and in game engine data, it will be used for FMV's, and demos. We might see the PS3 blue ray's extended storage used in game for latter releases. It already take 2+ years for a game to be made, if they make em any bigger using today's technoligy it would take them another 4+ years to make a game, and that my friend's is probably too risky for most software dev's right now.Â
[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Better cut scenes, more music, maybe more detailed, varying environments, more movies. From what ive seen, the cut scenes look like there gonna be in engine, so it probably wont benefit. But the environments, from the screens ive seen, look boring and empty. Needs more stuff in it.coolguy1111He doesn't know. He is assuming. Fanboys like to predict things.....when they obviously have no idea. How am i pedicting? It could have longer, more, and better looking CGI/FMV. Thats the point of blu-ray, as of now. Also it could have more sound. And show me a picture that disproves Mass Effect sint in-engine? And amount of stuff in the envorenments and level design, or here the lack of, doesnt have anything to do with blu-ray, this game just has boring environments that arnt detailed. Look at Crysis, then look at this.
If I wanted to watch a movie I would buy a movie not a game. I don't like the FMV it is only good for one view if that then It just gets in the way.
Would that make a difference. I read the interview that you can explore over 100 worlds in ME.Nothing, with the compressions technology now a days, it comes down to the developers. Space isn't a factor as most companies would allow you to believe.
What if Bioware had HD DVD or Blu Ray. Do you think that would've effected the content. Maybe whe would've got more content. more space to explore.
I dont see how bioware can get over 100 world to explore on 1 dvd9.
acekall
He doesn't know. He is assuming. Fanboys like to predict things.....when they obviously have no idea. How am i pedicting? It could have longer, more, and better looking CGI/FMV. Thats the point of blu-ray, as of now. Also it could have more sound. And show me a picture that disproves Mass Effect sint in-engine? And amount of stuff in the envorenments and level design, or here the lack of, doesnt have anything to do with blu-ray, this game just has boring environments that arnt detailed. Look at Crysis, then look at this.[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Better cut scenes, more music, maybe more detailed, varying environments, more movies. From what ive seen, the cut scenes look like there gonna be in engine, so it probably wont benefit. But the environments, from the screens ive seen, look boring and empty. Needs more stuff in it.XYZVector
If I wanted to watch a movie I would buy a movie not a game. I don't like the FMV it is only good for one view if that then It just gets in the way.
Yea but CGI is very popular in jrpgs, and FMVs might make a come back, C+C3 is doin it, NFS did it. Who knows.[QUOTE="acekall"]Would that make a difference. I read the interview that you can explore over 100 worlds in ME.Nothing, with the compressions technology now a days, it comes down to the developers. Space isn't a factor as most companies would allow you to believe. Space is a factor. Why is every game well over 2gbs now? Why is a RTS demo over a gb?
What if Bioware had HD DVD or Blu Ray. Do you think that would've effected the content. Maybe whe would've got more content. more space to explore.
I dont see how bioware can get over 100 world to explore on 1 dvd9.
LaiGaiGeng
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