What in the world happened to FFXIII?

quick disclaimer:

im not dissing on FFXIII on any level, more like asking "why"

Has anyone seen the videos posted on gametrailers.com over FFXIII's gameplay?

well, as a fan of the franchise for a decade now i'm utterly BAFFLED by the lack of any fan service given to old veterans.

point in case;

the LACK of the Victory Fanfare at the end of battles.

HOW IN THE WORLD COULD SQUARE ENIX NOT haveit in their game?

it was such a huge disappointment when all i heard was a mellow melody playing after each battle.

another point in case;

is it me, or has the inventory for the characters have been DOWNSIZED TREMENDOUSLY?

watching one of the videos, it seemed to me each character has only two slots for equipment (though i could be wrong)

but if it is the case, im again disappointed.

another case in point;

whats with the awkward weapons?

boomerangs? :|

some kind of slingshot whip? :|

what? :?

its fine to try and create different weapons, but the weapons HOPE and VANILLE use is utterly ridiculous.

i'll take Wakka's blitzball anyday.

one last point;

WHY is there a quick menu after each battle where stars are given and points and what not?

i think it seems useless.

the whole use of Stars to judge a player in terms of how well he/she plays each battle is ridiculous.

yes, i remember SE saying that they wanted a more fast paced oriented gameplay this time around that stuck to turn based a little bit.

but why the stars?

now i wont say -

its going to be a bad game,

probably a great game as a matter of in fact.

but square Enix has gone way into re-inventing the franchise that they lost the old feeling of the franchise.

STOP PEOPLE you guys are making my hype go down on this game

STOP PEOPLE you guys are making my hype go down on this game

Regisland

no no no! go out and BUY the game, its STILL final fantasy and you'll love the game if your true to the franchise.

but it just doesn't feel right.

somethings missing :(

Oh noez??? Can we atleast wait to hear solid impressions and serious complaints? Fanfare? Really?

Oh noez??? Can we atleast wait to hear solid impressions and serious complaints? Fanfare? Really?

ActicEdge

Seriously, fanfare? Can you at least give some legit complaints? :?

No fanfare for when you killed enemies in XI.

Seriously, fanfare? Can you at least give some legit complaints? :?

Lionheart08

i WASN'T complaining about the game.

i was complaining about the lack of old veterans FAN service.

and the VICTORY FANFARE has stuck around since the FIRST Final Fantasy.

and for it to disappear in the franchise was A HUGEEE BLOW to me.

Here's the real question, why is that ****ing silver haired kid whining like a ***** in every video i've seen him in. I have a feeling im going to hate that kid.AAllxxjjnn

I've doubted it very much until I've played about 20 hours of it. It's amazing even if it's linear. Go out and buy it when you get the chance.Lethalhazard

oh no, im SURE the game is great! im disappointed by the many things they DONT have thats stuck around so long in the franchise :(

No fanfare for when you killed enemies in XI.

Shewgenja

thats an online game, i think killing a mob of enemies will be annoying if the victory fanfare played after each kill :|

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Here's the real question, why is that ****ing silver haired kid whining like a ***** in every video i've seen him in. I have a feeling im going to hate that kid.siLVURcross

Come on dude. Those are some awfully small reasons for disliking on the game. -_- And actually you can level up your accessory slots so you can put more on the character.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. People whine that it doesn't innovate enough if it stays to tradition, and if it innovates they have a fit. There's no middleground, since in the middle people still whine about one or the other. Good thing developers just do what they feel is right instead of trying to listen through the fog of pointless chatter from the fanbase. It's fine that they listen to suggestions, because they pick what is best for the title, but at least they don't take you people literally. rolo107

did...you read what i wrote?

i complained NOTHING about the innovations of the game :|

i welcome the innovation, i just hate the lost of touch to the franchise with certain steps they took like NO VICTORY FANFARE that has stuck around since the FIRST Final Fantasy :?

:|Come on dude. Those are some awfully small reasons for disliking on the game. -_- And actually you can level up your accessory slots so you can put more on the character.

Dahaka-UK

but i'm not saying i DONT like the game

the LACK of the Victory Fanfare at the end of battles. While fun, the feature just destroyed any seriousness and pace of most of the battles... there is a slight victory fanfare, it just much shorter.

is it me, or has the inventory for the characters have been DOWNSIZED TREMENDOUSLY?

watching one of the videos, it seemed to me each character has only two slots for equipment (though i could be wrong)

but if it is the case, im again disappointed. FF10 had 3? and people loved that game... I dunno

whats with the awkward weapons?

boomerangs? :|

some kind of slingshot whip? :|

what? :?

its fine to try and create different weapons, but the weapons HOPE and VANILLE use is utterly ridiculous.

i'll take Wakka's blitzball anyday. Theyre practically kids with no fighting experiance.... and the blitzballs were just as stupid :P cmon mate. at least lightning and snow get the point, besides from what ive seen arnt Hope and Vanille mainly casters?

one last point;

WHY is there a quick menu after each battle where stars are given and points and what not?

i think it seems useless.

the whole use of Stars to judge a player in terms of how well he/she plays each battle is ridiculous. it adds another layer? better it be there than just a boring exp screen thats for sure... since the action is faster pace it encourages you to perform and work with the system better, how is that not a plus?

now i wont say -

its going to be a bad game,

probably a great game as a matter of in fact.

but square Enix has gone way into re-inventing the franchise that they lost the old feeling of the franchise.

muffintheduffin

Look, ive loved Final Fantasy from the beggining, but ... I couldnt stomach another 1-9 Final Fantasy, the gameplay just doesnt do it anymore, im very much glad they didnt harm themselves by continuing down the same monotoumous combat path they choise before... this looks like a really fresh new edition. "Fan Service" to the point where its just a reskinned game is useless.

I haven't played FF XIII & it's one of my most anticipated games of 2010, but from the early reports from people that have either played it or watched live streams, I'm getting worried. I haven't played a FF title since X, but I saw a bit of the combat through a live stream & it looks a lot better & more action orientated, but I really wouldn't know, having not played it first hand. After hearing that 80% of the game is just fighting (I think that's exaggerated though), I'm worried its trying to be an action game within the jRPG genre, which I don't think will go well if its keeping the traditional jRPG random battles.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Oh noez??? Can we atleast wait to hear solid impressions and serious complaints? Fanfare? Really?

Dystopian-X

Haha, SW does entertain sometimes. Lack of fanfare and strange weapons are now thead worthy? ho would have thunk it.

No fanfare for when you killed enemies in XI.

Shewgenja

[QUOTE="Dystopian-X"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Oh noez??? Can we atleast wait to hear solid impressions and serious complaints? Fanfare? Really?

ActicEdge

Haha, SW does entertain sometimes. Lack of fanfare and strange weapons are now thead worthy? ho would have thunk it.

Apparently there is no world map either, so expect a new thread on that in the near future. :P

[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

No fanfare for when you killed enemies in XI.

Junsei

I really don't know what happened here, but truth is my FFXIII hype is on the ground now... 99.9% of chance of not getting it now. And no, not because of anything TC said.

[QUOTE="Junsei"][QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

No fanfare for when you killed enemies in XI.

Dystopian-X

[QUOTE="Junsei"][QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

No fanfare for when you killed enemies in XI.

Dystopian-X

quick disclaimer:

im not dissing on FFXIII on any level, more like asking "why"

Has anyone seen the videos posted on gametrailers.com over FFXIII's gameplay?

well, as a fan of the franchise for a decade now i'm utterly BAFFLED by the lack of any fan service given to old veterans.

point in case;

the LACK of the Victory Fanfare at the end of battles.

don't know this for sure, but this could be a region thing. don't know if the japanese versions had the same song.

HOW IN THE WORLD COULD SQUARE ENIX NOT haveit in their game?

it was such a huge disappointment when all i heard was a mellow melody playing after each battle.

another point in case;

is it me, or has the inventory for the characters have been DOWNSIZED TREMENDOUSLY?

watching one of the videos, it seemed to me each character has only two slots for equipment (though i could be wrong)

I believe FFX had only a weapon and accessory slot. definitely no more then 3.

but if it is the case, im again disappointed.

another case in point;

whats with the awkward weapons?

boomerangs? :|

some kind of slingshot whip? :|

what? :?

its fine to try and create different weapons, but the weapons HOPE and VANILLE use is utterly ridiculous.

i'll take Wakka's blitzball anyday.

a blitzball makes more sense then a boomerang?

one last point;

WHY is there a quick menu after each battle where stars are given and points and what not?

i think it seems useless.

the whole use of Stars to judge a player in terms of how well he/she plays each battle is ridiculous.

yes, i remember SE saying that they wanted a more fast paced oriented gameplay this time around that stuck to turn based a little bit.

but why the stars?

varying levels of experience based off how much damage you took relative to how much you dished out maybe? if i could streamline grinding a bit just by playing better, i'm all for it.

now i wont say -

its going to be a bad game,

probably a great game as a matter of in fact.

but square Enix has gone way into re-inventing the franchise that they lost the old feeling of the franchise.

muffintheduffin

I put some responses to your points in side the quote like this.

having said all that, i am less confident about ffxiii then i've ever been about a ff game (except maybe x-2). i miss sakaguchi working on ff games.

1. WHO CARES ABOUT FANFARE! Personally I play the game for the story and gameplay, not to have the character make a witty remark at the end of the battle.

2. You probably saw screens from early in the game, and you gain inventory slots as you progress through the game.

3. A boomerang or a slingshot is a much better weapon than a ball.

4. The Tales of series uses grades at the end of battles and you can gain extra things if you make better grades. Makes for incentive to do better and pay attention and not just f around in battle

5. Evolution is good in games. I really don't want to be playing a game that came out 10 years ago that simply has better graphics. Get out from under your rock and accept that theworld turns.

I guess they decided the theme of the game and the events in the game didnt fit the old Victory Fanfare Melody. I have watched the first 7 hours of the game being played and i think it looks fantastic. At first i thought it was going to be annoying only controlling 1 character in the battles, but the Optima/Paradigm Shift system looks to work great, allowing you to set people to perform the tasks you want whenever you need to change tactics mid battle.

I CANT WAIT FOR THIS GAME! :evil:

fanfare? you mean the victory dance? i wouldn't mind if the battle ended instantly as soon as the last enemy died, i got sick of waiting near 10 seconds for the battle to end as my characters did their little dance.

all you had in ff7 was weapon, armor and accesory...so whats the problem? ff10 just had 3 slots...