What is it about the Allure of the Wii ?

Now flame all you want, but people have been going crazy for over a year now trying to get their hands on this constantly sold out item.

Don't even try that low price thing, because the Xbox 360 Live arcade is $279.00 with a wireless controller and a 256meg mem card and 5 live arcade games included.

The Wii is only $30.00 cheaper with wireless controller, 5 Wii sport titles included and no memory card, so add the cost of a 1gig or 2gig card and you have an even costing console and yet the majority of the world chooses the Wii.

Some things can't be explained, but i'm sure fanboys will dismiss it in their usual sarcastic factually unsupported way but flaming aside, facts are facts and this hardware inferior long sought after console has an allure that you can't explain and it is truly one of lifes mysteries.

I'm so glad i finally got mine.

Wait, why are you including the 2gig memory card as part of the cost of a wii when you're comparing it to an Xbox Arcade?

Now flame all you want, but people have been going crazy for over a year now trying to get their hands on this constantly sold out item.

Don't even try that low price thing, because the Xbox 360 Live arcade is $279.00 with a wireless controller and a 256meg mem card and 5 live arcade games included.

The Wii is only $30.00 cheaper with wireless controller, 5 Wii sport titles included and no memory card, so add the cost of a 1gig or 2gig card and you have an even costing console and yet the majority of the world chooses the Wii.

Some things can't be explained, but i'm sure fanboys will dismiss it in their usual sarcastic factually unsupported way but flaming aside, facts are facts and this hardware inferior long sought after console has an allure that you can't explain and it is truly one of lifes mysteries.

I'm so glad i finally got mine.

macmutt

Why would Wii buyers need a 1 or 2gig card? The Wii has 512MB of built-in storage memory.

Anyway, the reason people are going crazy over the Wii is because it promises something different. Gaming has been at a creative standstill since the start of the PS2 generation. The Wii (and its portable cousin the DS) offer something new and different.

Of course, the degree to which how different an experience a game provides depends entirely on the creativity of the developer, but in just one year, there are more gameplay styles available on the Wii than on any other next-gen system. Most are still tentative and experimental, like WiiSports, but their existence so early in the generation, even in simplistic form, proves that the Wii is capable of fulfilling its promise. Certainly more than the 360 and PS3, anyway, which haven't seen any major games that supposedly transcend last gen gaming beyond a graphical perspective.

The memory card for the Wii isn't needed as its not like you can play VC games off it.KeeperofDingo

Yes i know the SD card is not required, but anyone storing online downloads or mii's and game saves, sports seasons and so on might want the extra memory.

My point was 360 fanboys can't really use the low cost as an excuse since the 360 live arcade is very close in price.

[QUOTE="KeeperofDingo"]The memory card for the Wii isn't needed as its not like you can play VC games off it.macmutt

Yes i know the SD card is not required, but anyone storing online downloads or mii's and game saves, sports seasons and so on might want the extra memory.

My point was 360 fanboys can't really use the low cost as an excuse since the 360 live arcade is very close in price.

The same is true for the 360, though. You can't download much with a 256MB memory card. A few XBLA games, but not much more.

[QUOTE="KeeperofDingo"]The memory card for the Wii isn't needed as its not like you can play VC games off it.macmutt

Yes i know the SD card is not required, but anyone storing online downloads or mii's and game saves, sports seasons and so on might want the extra memory.

My point was 360 fanboys can't really use the low cost as an excuse since the 360 live arcade is very close in price.

[QUOTE="macmutt"]

[QUOTE="KeeperofDingo"]The memory card for the Wii isn't needed as its not like you can play VC games off it.KeeperofDingo

Yes i know the SD card is not required, but anyone storing online downloads or mii's and game saves, sports seasons and so on might want the extra memory.

My point was 360 fanboys can't really use the low cost as an excuse since the 360 live arcade is very close in price.

What ever, who the hell cares about the stupid memory card? The point is the cost of the 360 Live arcade is not too far off then the Wii either with or without an SD card. Never the less the Wii is still the more sought after console.

lets see

1.) it is the cheapest.

xbox live version came only just recently. also the wii comes with 512 mb of internal memory so memory stick is unnecessary.

2.) easy controls (wii sports)

Its 5 sport games shows off the fun of the system. it is easy and intuitive so that grandpa and grandma can both play. you do the natural motions of the sport rather than pressing buttons. Most old adults meaning 30+ don't like excessive violence. so they see the wii as wholesome fun as its pack with a sports game rather than halo 3 or resistance. Alsowii sportsis set as a party game. this means that word of mouth and probabilty of experiencing itincrease its ability

3). marketing

Games areall under a certain stigma. only kids-teens play it. both xbox and ps3 have only reinforced this notion. wii was marketed to parents from the onset starting from "alpha mom" play testers. these one start the word of mouth and it soon went accross. Italso falls under the kiddy system meaning parent of the younger kids will purchase wii over xbox or ps2 as they are both "mature" and games like GTA are "evil"

it tapped the adult market is one of the biggest reasons.

lets see

1.) it is the cheapest.

xbox live version came only just recently. also the wii comes with 512 mb of internal memory so memory stick is unnecessary.

2.) easy controls (wii sports)

Its 5 sport games shows off the fun of the system. it is easy and intuitive so that grandpa and grandma can both play. you do the natural motions of the sport rather than pressing buttons. Most old adults meaning 30+ don't like excessive violence. so they see the wii as wholesome fun as its pack with a sports game rather than halo 3 or resistance. Alsowii sportsis set as a party game. this means that word of mouth and probabilty of experiencing itincrease its ability

3). marketing

Games areall under a certain stigma. only kids-teens play it. both xbox and ps3 have only reinforced this notion. wii was marketed to parents from the onset starting from "alpha mom" play testers. these one start the word of mouth and it soon went accross. Italso falls under the kiddy system meaning parent of the younger kids will purchase wii over xbox or ps2 as they are both "mature" and games like GTA are "evil"

it tapped the adult market is one of the biggest reasons.

ballistic3188

This is so typical of the most immature fanboys

First - Xbox Live arcade did not just come out, it used to be known as the core system with the same price of$279.00 minus the mem card

Second - it is much easier to get used to two analog thumbsticks and 4 buttons all on the same top face of a controller as opposed to using a combination of buttons and analog stick on 2 separate hand held units in unison.

Third - The Wii might have more games geared towards kids but thats because the other two have almost none, besides the Wii appeals to older gamers as well since i own a Wii and i'm 38 years old, so your theory is shot, and titles like Metroid Prime 3, Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles, Medal of Honor heroes 2, Soul Calibur Legends are rated M, not to mention all the various sports titles and driving titles.

So stop trying to claim it's a kiddie game thing and just admit you've been out sold by the lesser spec system and you can't stand it.

[QUOTE="KeeperofDingo"][QUOTE="macmutt"]

[QUOTE="KeeperofDingo"]The memory card for the Wii isn't needed as its not like you can play VC games off it.macmutt

Yes i know the SD card is not required, but anyone storing online downloads or mii's and game saves, sports seasons and so on might want the extra memory.

My point was 360 fanboys can't really use the low cost as an excuse since the 360 live arcade is very close in price.

What ever, who the hell cares about the stupid memory card? The point is the cost of the 360 Live arcade is not too far off then the Wii either with or without an SD card. Never the less the Wii is still the more sought after console.

[QUOTE="macmutt"]

Now flame all you want, but people have been going crazy for over a year now trying to get their hands on this constantly sold out item.

Don't even try that low price thing, because the Xbox 360 Live arcade is $279.00 with a wireless controller and a 256meg mem card and 5 live arcade games included.

The Wii is only $30.00 cheaper with wireless controller, 5 Wii sport titles included and no memory card, so add the cost of a 1gig or 2gig card and you have an even costing console and yet the majority of the world chooses the Wii.

Some things can't be explained, but i'm sure fanboys will dismiss it in their usual sarcastic factually unsupported way but flaming aside, facts are facts and this hardware inferior long sought after console has an allure that you can't explain and it is truly one of lifes mysteries.

I'm so glad i finally got mine.

mjarantilla

Why would Wii buyers need a 1 or 2gig card? The Wii has 512MB of built-in storage memory.

Anyway, the reason people are going crazy over the Wii is because it promises something different. Gaming has been at a creative standstill since the start of the PS2 generation. The Wii (and its portable cousin the DS) offer something new and different.

Of course, the degree to which how different an experience a game provides depends entirely on the creativity of the developer, but in just one year, there are more gameplay styles available on the Wii than on any other next-gen system. Most are still tentative and experimental, like WiiSports, but their existence so early in the generation, even in simplistic form, proves that the Wii is capable of fulfilling its promise. Certainly more than the 360 and PS3, anyway, which haven't seen any major games that supposedly transcend last gen gaming beyond a graphical perspective.

If the end result isn't an improvement, what's the point in change? So far Nintendo has done nothing to actually improve the quality of thier games. Even the best Wii games only use motion sensing as a different way of mapping buttons. What they have done, however, is figured out how to side step their struggling third party support by selling consoles on the back of a hardware gimmick.

You can tell me all day how the Wii was a necessary change, but it's just not true. Gaming was not getting stale. Nobody was concerned about a stagnating industry until Nintendo told them to be concerned. The Wii hasn't improved gaming. It has only watered it down to appeal to a larger crowd.

Because people eat all the wrong things and make them weak and dumb, so the are led to slaughter like animals.

And the mindless drones just buy into the Nintendo name and the false promise of something new.(motion based games have been around since the 90's).

Also Nintendo is charging you 3 x times what it cost to make buyt people still buy it becuase the don't know any better.

Finally because kids are on drugs.

If the end result isn't an improvement, what's the point in change? So far Nintendo has done nothing to actually improve the quality of thier games. Even the best Wii games only use motion sensing as a different way of mapping buttons. What they have done, however, is figured out how to side step their struggling third party support by selling consoles on the back of a hardware gimmick.

You can tell me all day how the Wii was a necessary change, but it's just not true. Gaming was not getting stale. Nobody was concerned about a stagnating industry until Nintendo told them to be concerned. The Wii hasn't improved gaming. It has only watered it down to appeal to a larger crowd.

There was no need for Nintendo to add the very first analog thumbstick introduced on the N-64 either but they did and it was quickly copied and used by competitors Sony and Sega...and not long after E3-06 once Sony discovered the popularity of Nintendo's new control scheme they did a half ass motion sensor add on to their now sixaxxis controller.

So don't condemn Nintendo for being innovative, any other company with millions of dollars to waste can buy and manufacture the latest hardware, accept they'll lose money with each unit sold such as Sony and Microsoft are now, but real game playing innovation goes to Nintendo as always and now so do the profits.

If the end result isn't an improvement, what's the point in change? So far Nintendo has done nothing to actually improve the quality of thier games. Even the best Wii games only use motion sensing as a different way of mapping buttons. What they have done, however, is figured out how to side step their struggling third party support by selling consoles on the back of a hardware gimmick.Gamer556

The Wiimote's main feature, contrary to what marketing tells you, is the pointer, not the motion sensor. Super Mario Galaxy's most unique gameplay features are mostly pointer-based, and the games that have shown the most improvement are all pointer-based (Z&W, MP3, etc.)

And can you show me how the 360 and PS3 have improved their games? Last I checked, they haven't. Oh, except graphically, of course. We can't forget that. :roll:

You can tell me all day how the Wii was a necessary change, but it's just not true. Gaming was not getting stale. Nobody was concerned about a stagnating industry evilross

Yes, it was getting stale. Look at the gaming libraries of the 360 and PS3 and tell me: how many horror, scifi, and military games are there?

Use the movie industry as an analogy. Would the movie industry be considered stagnant if the only types of movies released were scifi movies, action movies, and horror movies?

The gaming industry was definitely stagnating.

The Wii hasn't improved gaming. It has only watered it down to appeal to a larger crowd.evilross

Funny, that's exactly what the PS1, PS2, and 360 did. Games are now getting simpler, and shorter.

Get over it. The casualization of the industry began long before the Wii came along.

If the end result isn't an improvement, what's the point in change? So far Nintendo has done nothing to actually improve the quality of thier games. Even the best Wii games only use motion sensing as a different way of mapping buttons. What they have done, however, is figured out how to side step their struggling third party support by selling consoles on the back of a hardware gimmick.Gamer556

The Wiimote's main feature, contrary to what marketing tells you, is the pointer, not the motion sensor. Super Mario Galaxy's most unique gameplay features are mostly pointer-based, and the games that have shown the most improvement are all pointer-based (Z&W, MP3, etc.)

And can you show me how the 360 and PS3 have improved their games? Last I checked, they haven't. Oh, except graphically, of course. We can't forget that. :roll:

You can tell me all day how the Wii was a necessary change, but it's just not true. Gaming was not getting stale. Nobody was concerned about a stagnating industry evilross

Yes, it was getting stale. Look at the gaming libraries of the 360 and PS3 and tell me: how many horror, scifi, and military games are there compared to the many other varieties of games?

Use the movie industry as an analogy. Would the movie industry be considered stagnant if the only types of movies released were scifi movies, action movies, and horror movies?

There are two ways a creative industry can progress: grow broader, or grow deeper. The 360 and PS3 are definitely not growing deeper. Mass Effect to Baldur's Gate II, or even KotOR, and compare Halo 3 to Half-Life 2, and compare Rainbow Six Vegas to the original Rainbow Six, and you'll see just how shallow gaming has become. So what about growing broader? Well, only the Wii is doing that.

The gaming industry was definitely stagnating.

The Wii hasn't improved gaming. It has only watered it down to appeal to a larger crowd.evilross

Funny, that's exactly what the PS1, PS2, and 360 did. Games are now getting simpler and shorter, with gameplay geared more and more towards twitch rather than thought.

Get over it. The casualization of the industry began long before the Wii came along.

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]If the end result isn't an improvement, what's the point in change? So far Nintendo has done nothing to actually improve the quality of thier games. Even the best Wii games only use motion sensing as a different way of mapping buttons. What they have done, however, is figured out how to side step their struggling third party support by selling consoles on the back of a hardware gimmick.mjarantilla

The Wiimote's main feature, contrary to what marketing tells you, is the pointer, not the motion sensor. Super Mario Galaxy's most unique gameplay features are mostly pointer-based, and the games that have shown the most improvement are all pointer-based (Z&W, MP3, etc.)

And can you show me how the 360 and PS3 have improved their games? Last I checked, they haven't. Oh, except graphically, of course. We can't forget that. :roll:

You can tell me all day how the Wii was a necessary change, but it's just not true. Gaming was not getting stale. Nobody was concerned about a stagnating industry evilross

Yes, it was getting stale. Look at the gaming libraries of the 360 and PS3 and tell me: how many horror, scifi, and military games are there compared to the many other varieties of games?

Use the movie industry as an analogy. Would the movie industry be considered stagnant if the only types of movies released were scifi movies, action movies, and horror movies?

There are two ways a creative industry can progress: grow broader, or grow deeper. The 360 and PS3 are definitely not growing deeper. Mass Effect to Baldur's Gate II, or even KotOR, and compare Halo 3 to Half-Life 2, and compare Rainbow Six Vegas to the original Rainbow Six, and you'll see just how shallow gaming has become. So what about growing broader? Well, only the Wii is doing that.

The gaming industry was definitely stagnating.

The Wii hasn't improved gaming. It has only watered it down to appeal to a larger crowd.evilross

Funny, that's exactly what the PS1, PS2, and 360 did. Games are now getting simpler and shorter, with gameplay geared more and more towards twitch rather than thought.

Get over it. The casualization of the industry began long before the Wii came along.

Perfect i couldn't have said it better myself...Well done..Bravo...thunderous applause, my point exactly.