What is single biggest hardware/specification mistake for each system ever?

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#1 The__MCP
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I would say the NES is the only perfect system ever.

IMO, some of the ones would be:

N64 - only offering cartridge support

PSP - no right analog stick

WII - online system (friend codes only, no chatting, etc)

360 - not making HDD standard

GC - no DVD support

DC - not waiting a little bit longer for launch and an overall more powerful system

XBOX - first controller design

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#2 superjim42
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ps3 - the blu-ray (i honestly dont even watch movies on my ps3)

xbox360 - low quality components causing issues i.e. rrod

ps2 - nothing...i thought it was perfect

ps1 - again had no problems with it

snes - another perfect lol

i guess the older more simpler systems didnt have any problems as ooposed to now where the more complicated it gets, the more prone it is to error

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#3 chikenfriedrice
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RROD was a huge mistake...if not for that the 360 could have sold more and could have been considered one of the best gaming consoles to date
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#4 shahchip
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GC - The wierd discs

PS3 - none that i can think of

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#5 The__MCP
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ps3 - the blu-ray (i honestly dont even watch movies on my ps3)

xbox360 - low quality components causing issues i.e. rrod

ps2 - nothing...i thought it was perfect

ps1 - again had no problems with it

snes - another perfect lol

i guess the older more simpler systems didnt have any problems as ooposed to now where the more complicated it gets, the more prone it is to error

superjim42

I love the blu-ray, although it needs more movie support. Being a big online gamer, my biggest peeve on PS3 hardware/specs, is that headsets were not standard with all bundles like they are with 360. Just makes for a boring, less busy online community compared to the 360. Again..... the whole online setup to begin with, just like Wii, might be for me the biggest problem with PS3. I would group not having an updated PSN system with that. What we have now, is what PS3 should have had at launch.

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#6 chikenfriedrice
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ps3 - the blu-ray (i honestly dont even watch movies on my ps3)

xbox360 - low quality components causing issues i.e. rrod

ps2 - nothing...i thought it was perfect

ps1 - again had no problems with it

snes - another perfect lol

i guess the older more simpler systems didnt have any problems as ooposed to now where the more complicated it gets, the more prone it is to error

superjim42

bluray is almost the only thing I use my PS3 for lol

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#7 shahchip
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[QUOTE="superjim42"]

ps3 - the blu-ray (i honestly dont even watch movies on my ps3)

xbox360 - low quality components causing issues i.e. rrod

ps2 - nothing...i thought it was perfect

ps1 - again had no problems with it

snes - another perfect lol

i guess the older more simpler systems didnt have any problems as ooposed to now where the more complicated it gets, the more prone it is to error

The__MCP

I love the blu-ray, although it needs more movie support. Being a big online gamer, my biggest peeve on PS3 hardware/specs, is that headsets were not standard with all bundles like they are with 360. Just makes for a boring, less busy online community compared to the 360. Again..... the whole online setup to begin with, just like Wii, might be for me the biggest problem with PS3. I would group not having an updated PSN system with that. What we have now, is what PS3 should have had at launch.

i dunno... i think they shouldve included a mini keypad with every ps3 instead of a headset

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#8 rtehrani
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I would say the NES is the only perfect system ever.

IMO, some of the ones would be:

N64 - only offering cartridge support

PSP - no right analog stick

WII - online system (friend codes only, no chatting, etc)

360 - not making HDD standard

GC - no DVD support

DC - not waiting a little bit longer for launch and an overall more powerful system

XBOX - first controller design

The__MCP

i agree with your points, except this one. i thought it had plenty of power, even looking back at games like soul calibur, it still holds up well, along with other games. but id say the biggest mistake for DC was not having dvd rom. gd rom was nice, but imagine what they could have done if they went with dvd, ps2's main sellign point would have been moot.

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PS3 = Cell

360 = the causes of the RRoD

Wii = none

PS2 = the disk drive

Xbox = none

GC = none

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#10 prozack28
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wii - lack of storage.
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#11 bruce-leroy
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ps3- 256 ram

360-no hd

wii- hd capability

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#12 ChrnoTrigger
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ps3- 256 ram

360-no hd

wii- hd capability

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The PS3 has 512mb ram, not 256.

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#13 osan0
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ill just do the current gens. im also talking specifically from a games standpoint.

PS3: the blu ray drive. its slow, its sloppy and its just not up to the job of meeting the demands of current gen games. it has plenty of storage (arguably its complete overkill) but when devs start needing to use installs and repeating data and dummy data just to keep loading times respectable then whats the point? it certainly hasnt justified the extra money it costs to have it. from a business perspective, its served its purpose very nicely. from a games perspective, its a disaster.

wii: no big storage as standard (and were still waiting on a fix. cmon ninty, its not rocket science). nintendo made 2 stupid mistakes. 1) they wasted money on a solid state memory solution. in terms of bang per buck, its useless. 2)they completly underestimated both the possibilities of loads of memory and the needs of their customers. 512MB was never going to be enough for 4-5 years of gaming. a cheap 20GB HDD would have been fine. it would make games run better through caching. it would allow the possibility of expanding games (new zelda dungeon packs every few week for example...sounds pretty good to me) and ppl could store a ton of data (well 20GB worth roughly). shigsy himself said that the first thing he would change on the wii is the storage.

360: same problem as wii, but to a lesser extent (they do have storage solutions). no HDD as standard. it was great in the xbox. why oh why did MS not have a HDD as standard in the 360? seriously i hope the person who made that decision got a serious frowning at. stupid move. its not like HDDs are expensive.

DS: lack of hardware accceleration. i know its a handheld and i know ninty werent going for horsepower...but the one thing that bother me about the handheld is the pixelation in its 3d games. they should have put in a bit of kit that smooths it all out. the N64 could do itand the DS is very similar in design..so it wouldnt have cost a ton of money to add it.

PSP: lack of a second nub. basically its absence makes certain genres even sloppier than they are with 2 sticks. using the face buttons to target and shoulder buttons to turn a camera around (not in the same game of course)....now that really is poor. surely they could have squeezed one in?

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NES - games don't start up as easily after a while

SNES/Gen - never ever had any problems

N64 - Cart format made it expensive to develop for

PSX - Horrible polygon jittering

Saturn - harder for devs to program 3d for than other systems

Dreamcast - VMU ran out of batteries really really fast

PS2 - Disc reading errors over time

Xbox - Doesn't play burned discs

Gamecube - Nonexistant online (except for one game)

Xbox 360 - weakest system ever made

PS3 - Expensive bluray and cell chip add little power in attempts for exclusivity

Wii - Weak graphics and Wii-mote is able to do what was intended after motion plus

PC- games aren't always guaranteed to work

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#15 BelAir1
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I dont think the Blu ray was a waste on the ps3, it introduced blu ray, and now I have it on my pc. Granted I dont own a Ps3.

PS3- Definitely the Cell. In real world gaming apps, it's useless. Also lack of ram. I mean, 256mb? Come on.

XBOX 360- RROD (caused by mobo and heating problems). Also seems very fragile.

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#16 superjim42
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I dont think the Blu ray was a waste on the ps3, it introduced blu ray, and now I have it on my pc. Granted I dont own a Ps3.

PS3- Definitely the Cell. In real world gaming apps, it's useless. Also lack of ram. I mean, 256mb? Come on.

XBOX 360- RROD (caused by mobo and heating problems). Also seems very fragile.

BelAir1

do ppl try to be ignorant on purpose? the ps3 has 512 of ram!

its jut not a single amount of straihght up ram like the xbox360 has. the ps3's ram is split but it can still be used if needed to.

jeez do some research beforehand

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#17 BelAir1
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[QUOTE="BelAir1"]

I dont think the Blu ray was a waste on the ps3, it introduced blu ray, and now I have it on my pc. Granted I dont own a Ps3.

PS3- Definitely the Cell. In real world gaming apps, it's useless. Also lack of ram. I mean, 256mb? Come on.

XBOX 360- RROD (caused by mobo and heating problems). Also seems very fragile.

superjim42

do ppl try to be ignorant on purpose? the ps3 has 512 of ram!

its jut not a single amount of straihght up ram like the xbox360 has. the ps3's ram is split but it can still be used if needed to.

jeez do some research beforehand

Memory:

  • 256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
  • 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz

VRAM isnt the same as main ram. In my computer, I have 4 GB DDR2 ram, and my video card has 1gb VRAM. Its not the same thing. Yes the system can draw from my Main ram, but its slow and isnt worthwhile. when people say the ps3 only has 256, theyre talking about the main ram. Before you bash me, YOU do the research.


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#18 diped
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the blu ray, and the cell jacked up the price too high on the ps3, and just aren't really worth it. I would say the cell more than blu ray, since blu ray now has the HD movie market by itself.

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#19 air_wolf_cubed
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I would say the NES is the only perfect system ever.

IMO, some of the ones would be:

N64 - only offering cartridge support

PSP - no right analog stick

WII - online system (friend codes only, no chatting, etc)

360 - not making HDD standard

GC - no DVD support

DC - not waiting a little bit longer for launch and an overall more powerful system

XBOX - first controller design

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#20 Lebron181
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I laugh at people saying Blu-ray was the fault for PS3.
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#21 superjim42
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I laugh at people saying Blu-ray was the fault for PS3.Lebron181

it is actually the main reason behind the cost of the system.

i dont even watch movies on my ps3. im still a dvd guy

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#22 hakanakumono
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I don't know why people think we need a right analog stick for the PSP.