What is the difference between a console Exclusive and a complete Exclusive?

Aside from the obvious answer, I want to know the INFLUENCE or the ADVANTAGE between the two in a real world scenario and not just technicalities. Why do cows and sheep make such a big deal between the two when in reality the results of a exclusive or console exclusive are virtually the same to Xbox 360. Sure they mean different things, but Microsoft gains the same benefits.

In other words, Bioshock helps the 360 almost the same way a complete exclusive because the high-end PC fanbase is small compared to the nearly hundred million console gamers.

Sure a cow can win an arguement on technicalities because the "game" is available on another platform. But how stupid do you sound in a PS3 vs 360 arguement and you say" PS3 is better because I can get this game on a NON-SONY platform"

But you have no way of proving how much it helps or hurts other than quite simply "You dont need a 360 to play this game."

I find your (completely unsubstantiated) claim of "high-end PC gaming" to be irrelevant when MS themselves mentioned a PC gaming market of 200 million. If anything, i'd say with numbers like those, it makes the 15 million Xbox 360's sold seem insignificant and the PS3 completely irrelevant.

True, the press release didnt mention anything about the specs, but its talking about the market Games for Windows which is comprised of mostly high-end games like Crysis and Bioshock (not an exclsuvie title! See, i can admit to it not being exclusive!).

So the reality is, a PC-360 title is simply another reason to not get a 360. Arent most of the System Wars argument based around getting or not getting a system due to its exclusives?

Aside from the obvious answer, I want to know the INFLUENCE or the ADVANTAGE between the two in a real world scenario and not just technicalities. Why do cows and sheep make such a big deal between the two when in reality the results of a exclusive or console exclusive are virtually the same to Xbox 360. Sure they mean different things, but Microsoft gains the same benefits.

In other words, Bioshock helps the 360 almost the same way a complete exclusive because the high-end PC fanbase is small compared to the nearly hundred million console gamers.

Sure a cow can win an arguement on technicalities because the "game" is available on another platform. But how stupid do you sound in a PS3 vs 360 arguement and you say" PS3 is better because I can get this game on a NON-SONY platform"

Blue-Sky

Aside from the obvious answer, I want to know the INFLUENCE or the ADVANTAGE between the two in a real world scenario and not just technicalities. Why do cows and sheep make such a big deal between the two when in reality the results of a exclusive or console exclusive are virtually the same to Xbox 360. Sure they mean different things, but Microsoft gains the same benefits.

In other words, Bioshock helps the 360 almost the same way a complete exclusive because the high-end PC fanbase is small compared to the nearly hundred million console gamers.

Sure a cow can win an arguement on technicalities because the "game" is available on another platform. But how stupid do you sound in a PS3 vs 360 arguement and you say" PS3 is better because I can get this game on a NON-SONY platform"

Blue-Sky

But we did the same thing to the cows with Unreal until it was announced for 360.

IT isn't a cow thing, its a fanboy thing, as a hardcore lemming with a 2nd acount, you should know this by now.

[QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]The PC is not a MS System, becuase MS does not make any hardware.... and Im pretty sure MS makes no money of PC games, which are un-licenced.... and The PC fanbase is still very large, Europe is entirelly PC gamers...blurb1324

All I got to say about this is.. WMDs. I rest my case.

Yes the PC /can/ be used as a 'gaming platform', but it's /not/ a gaming platform.danabo

Tell me why insomniac lists it as one then? :S, also why are some games PC only if it isn't a gaming platform? :S

Nothing because Casey said their is no such thing as a Console Exclusive in System Wars.

But what people say a Console Exclusive is if it was on like the 360 and PC but not on anyother console it is considered a Console Exclusive because PC isn't considered a Console.

But I think their is no such thing as a Console Exclusive because if it is on another system it is no longer Exclusive it is automatically Multiplat.

Why are so many threads from February 2007 being bumped today?Floppy_Jim

Dunno but this one was good, dunno who did it but it looked like a new thread D: good find.

[QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]The PC is not a MS System, becuase MS does not make any hardware.... and Im pretty sure MS makes no money of PC games, which are un-licenced.... and The PC fanbase is still very large, Europe is entirelly PC gamers...blurb1324

the USA VP debade had more viewers (Canadian), than the Canadian Prime minister Debate for OUR federal government...

i mean get real lol....

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]The PC is not a MS System, becuase MS does not make any hardware.... and Im pretty sure MS makes no money of PC games, which are un-licenced.... and The PC fanbase is still very large, Europe is entirelly PC gamers...baddog121390

I live in Canada, I am the only PC gamer that I know.

[QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]The PC is not a MS System, becuase MS does not make any hardware.... and Im pretty sure MS makes no money of PC games, which are un-licenced.... and The PC fanbase is still very large, Europe is entirelly PC gamers...McJugga

I live in Canada, I am the only PC gamer that I know.

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]I havent upgraded my PC in 2 years...Still works fine. You pay $ for XBl, ill just pay for the occasional upgrades....danabo

Erm no it isnt... its one of the cheaper places.

I posted this in another thread but it's relevance holds: My PC is not for gaming. I would rather the play the "exclusives" on my 360. I'm not upgrading a PC every 6 months to handle the latest games. Don't get me wrong, I play WoW, CS and some other games on my PC but those games run on old hardware. I bought Oblivion for the PC and that was a joke, traded in and bought the 360 version (missing the mods). Learnt my lesson, maybe in a few years when I buy a new PC I'll get some of the 360/PC Exclusives for the PC. As far the exclusive argument. I think they should count as 360 exclusives, they're not on any other console. In the UK PC's are basically glorified word processors. No amount of saying "well you can upgrade the..." will ever work. You can lead the horse to water but you can't make it drink. The average person has trouble connecting a printer; upgrading RAM, Cards, Drivers is way beyond the average PC users technical abilities. (If they tried without reaching for the phone to call me they would realise how easy it is but alas no.. tech support sigh). I play my 360 on my CRT monitor through VGA sitting on my couch, I play my PC through my VGA monitor sitting on my couch. No difference there. The 360, to me, is more fun for local multiplayer and if there are any 360/PC games that have that option the 360 wins hands down. When GTA was only on the PC and PS it was a PS exclusive... when Halo is on the PC and the Xbox it's still an Xbox exclusive. Claiming otherwise is nonsene. Yes the PC /can/ be used as a 'gaming platform', but it's /not/ a gaming platform.danabo

Because you speak for all of us British people? :roll:.....

Making up a load of rubbish.

Just because YOUR PC cant run it, doesnt make it exclusive... thats as BAD as saying "Kung Fu Panda is PS2 exclusive because I dont have a PS3/360/Wii/PC ....

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]The PC is not a MS System, becuase MS does not make any hardware.... and Im pretty sure MS makes no money of PC games, which are un-licenced.... and The PC fanbase is still very large, Europe is entirelly PC gamers...baddog121390

I'm not sure what you're talking about, consoles are faaar more popular in Canada than PC gaming. Pretty much everyone around university age here has a console, few game on pc from my experience.