What is the worst thing to come from this generation?

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#1 immortality20
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My vote goes to online passes, somehow I hate them more than DLC. Mostly because I rent and buy used games a lot and this kind of gets in the way of that...

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#2 slimjimbadboy
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The trolls?

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#3 IAmNot_fun
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Bad DLCs.
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#4 Jankarcop
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DLC, thanks xbox.

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#5 Jankarcop
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The trolls?

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thats like 4 gens old......

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#6 Assassin_87
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I'll go with DLC, because recently it has been used as an excuse to chop off parts of full retail games, priced at $60 a pop, only to give us back the content with a price tag. It may be because I haven't personally been affected by online passes yet, but I find DLC far more offensive and it makes me worry for the future of our hobby sometimes.
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#7 vashkey
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Pre-order content has been around for generations and before last gen games were even more expensive than they are now. Especially back in the SNES/Genesis days.

Honestly, online passes aren't a big deal, if you weren't buying the game new then how much did you really care about that game's multiplayer?

On disc dlc is rare and it's even rarer that it's actually something you'd want to buy.

The worst thing is the prices for this dlc. Ten dollars for three multiplayer maps? Fifteen for five? Ten dollars for two hours or less of singleplayer content? Five dollars for a light saber for my avatar? What the hell?

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#8 speedfreak48t5p
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Finalstar and LoosingENDS threads

Bad DLC (not the good stuff like GTA 4 expansions, Fallout 3, those kind of stuff)

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#9 thedork_knight
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DLC, thanks xbox.

Jankarcop

microsoft didnt introduce DLC, maybe the first console to have them

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#10 MacBoomStick
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The dumbing down of everything.

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#11 Assassin_87
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DLC, thanks xbox.

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Thanks Xbox, indeed. See, DLC has actually existed for a while for the PC community, in the form of expansion packs. It only turned into the crazy, almost comical milking we see today after being introduced on consoles. Say what you will about PC gamers, but they are a vocal and observant bunch that does a good job of keeping greedy devs and publishers in line.
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#13 savebattery
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The influx of stupid people that made all of the horrible things in the poll financially viable for publishers by repeatedly voting with their wallets and validating bad business practices. I hate Online Passes, DLC in general (but especially on-disc), microtransactions, subscription fees, preorder exclusives, "Game of the Year"/"Gold Editions" that come out a year later with all the extra DLC at half the price of the original thereby screwing people who bought it originally, overpriced plastic peripherals, ridiculous collector's editions, intrusive DRM, in-game advertisements, and all the rest of the nonsense that has become standard. But the only reason it became standard is because people didn't put their foot down and tell these publishers to shove it up their collective asses when these trends got started.
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#14 Heil68
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RROD and Kinect.
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#15 vashkey
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

DLC, thanks xbox.

Assassin_87
Thanks Xbox, indeed. See, DLC has actually existed for a while for the PC community, in the form of expansion packs. It only turned into the crazy, almost comical milking we see today after being introduced on consoles. Say what you will about PC gamers, but they are a vocal and observant bunch that does a good job of keeping greedy devs and publishers in line.

Which is why this expensive dlc pack still appear in PC games...
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#16 Assassin_87
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[QUOTE="Assassin_87"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

DLC, thanks xbox.

vashkey
Thanks Xbox, indeed. See, DLC has actually existed for a while for the PC community, in the form of expansion packs. It only turned into the crazy, almost comical milking we see today after being introduced on consoles. Say what you will about PC gamers, but they are a vocal and observant bunch that does a good job of keeping greedy devs and publishers in line.

Which is why this expensive dlc pack still appear in PC games...

Well, now, yes. But I kind of blame it on the influx of stupid people that savebattery references above. At this point, all parties are guilty.
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#17 savebattery
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Say what you will about PC gamers, but they are a vocal and observant bunch that does a good job of keeping greedy devs and publishers in line.Assassin_87
Which is why the used game market has been almost completely destroyed by publishers, right? Which is why companies continue to use ridiculously intrusive and inconvenient DRM, right? Which is why many PC gamers tie their game purchases into accounts from companies that will take away access to things you paid for due to forum comments, right? I'm a PC gamer myself, but you're kidding yourself if you think PC gaming as a whole is any more free of publisher nonsense than console gaming,
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#18 freedomfreak
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Online pass.

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#19 infinite884
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DLC, I love expansions but DLC can go f*ck itself, especially dlc on the disc

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#20 PinnacleGamingP
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xbox 360, rrod tried to save gamers from bad gaming on 360 with crappy/no games and save them money from spending to play online but microsoft extended warranty. also kinect
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#21 ebrezzy1
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None of those choices

it was by far the idea of Kinect

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#22 ermacness
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I voted for **OTHER**.

I hate the new subscription services that CoD have because of it's idiotic success, now EA is looking to do that with the BF series, and if EA does it, and it takes off, I can see tons of dev following suit, ala "Online Passes".:roll:

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[QUOTE="Assassin_87"]Say what you will about PC gamers, but they are a vocal and observant bunch that does a good job of keeping greedy devs and publishers in line.savebattery
Which is why the used game market has been almost completely destroyed by publishers, right? Which is why companies continue to use ridiculously intrusive and inconvenient DRM, right? Which is why many PC gamers tie their game purchases into accounts from companies that will take away access to things you paid for due to forum comments, right? I'm a PC gamer myself, but you're kidding yourself if you think PC gaming as a whole is any more free of publisher nonsense than console gaming,

maybe I should clarify that I don't necessarily think any group of gamers is doing a great job of having their voices heard these days. LOL
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#24 RoslindaleOne
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DLC is optional, though, but the online pass is straight up sh!t. I don't even think you can use your GT even when playing with the person who has the pass (NHL12).

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#25 nini200
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DLC, thanks xbox.

Jankarcop
I was going to say Kevin Butler but paid DLC such as outfits and characters that are already on the disc is worse.
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#26 mems_1224
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whiny fanboys
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#27 MlauTheDaft
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I'll bunch a couple of issues together under the moniker: Industrialization.

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#28 savebattery
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whiny fanboysmems_1224
Whiny fanboys have been around since Atari 2600 v Intellivision.
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#29 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]whiny fanboyssavebattery
Whiny fanboys have been around since Atari 2600 v Intellivision.

yea but thanks to the internet now they have a place to be heard
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#30 savebattery
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[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]whiny fanboysmems_1224
Whiny fanboys have been around since Atari 2600 v Intellivision.

yea but thanks to the internet now they have a place to be heard

But even that isn't a phenomenon new to this generation. Internet fanboys have been around as long as the internet itself.
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#31 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="savebattery"] Whiny fanboys have been around since Atari 2600 v Intellivision.savebattery
yea but thanks to the internet now they have a place to be heard

But even that isn't a phenomenon new to this generation. Internet fanboys have been around as long as the internet itself.

internet didnt get big until this gen, maybe a little towards the end of last gen
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#32 turtlethetaffer
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Hm... both online pass and DLC are pretty bad... but if I had to choose I would definitely say DLC. It should be used to expand upon a game in meaningful ways, not to complete and unfinished game.

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#33 MlauTheDaft
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[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] yea but thanks to the internet now they have a place to be heardmems_1224
But even that isn't a phenomenon new to this generation. Internet fanboys have been around as long as the internet itself.

internet didnt get big until this gen, maybe a little towards the end of last gen

yes it did, just not on consoles :?

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#34 KillerJuan77
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The trolls

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#35 Eponique
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[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] yea but thanks to the internet now they have a place to be heardmems_1224
But even that isn't a phenomenon new to this generation. Internet fanboys have been around as long as the internet itself.

internet didnt get big until this gen, maybe a little towards the end of last gen

I don't know about you but I've been on the internet since 1996 and most people joined towards the end of 1990s.
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#36 Jankarcop
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[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] yea but thanks to the internet now they have a place to be heardmems_1224
But even that isn't a phenomenon new to this generation. Internet fanboys have been around as long as the internet itself.

internet didnt get big until this gen, maybe a little towards the end of last gen

lmao what? were you in a cave before then?

This place was at its prime at the start of last gen.

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#37 waltefmoney
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DLC.

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#38 cyborg100000
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DLC and sequel after sequel, remake after remake. A lot more last gen games had their own ideas, their own styles, new gameplay methods or invented their own little world or back story. Now we're lucky if developers pull of a worthy sequel, let alone think "Right lets move onto something new".

Look at Far Cry, it's back to the same concept as it was nearly a decade ago, hasn't moved on at all and has generalized the plot to revolve around insanity. Look at all the remakes of past games, damn you game industry, move on.

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#39 Assassin_87
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[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] yea but thanks to the internet now they have a place to be heardmems_1224
But even that isn't a phenomenon new to this generation. Internet fanboys have been around as long as the internet itself.

internet didnt get big until this gen, maybe a little towards the end of last gen

How old are you? The internet has been mainstream for over a decade. Consoles were playing catch up this generation, but that isn't indicative of society as a whole.
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#40 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="savebattery"] But even that isn't a phenomenon new to this generation. Internet fanboys have been around as long as the internet itself.Eponique
internet didnt get big until this gen, maybe a little towards the end of last gen

I don't know about you but I've been on the internet since 1996 and most people joined towards the end of 1990s.

in 1996 i was 9 and only used a computer at school :(
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#41 savebattery
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[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] yea but thanks to the internet now they have a place to be heardmems_1224
But even that isn't a phenomenon new to this generation. Internet fanboys have been around as long as the internet itself.

internet didnt get big until this gen, maybe a little towards the end of last gen

System Wars has been around since the dying days of the Dreamcast. I didn't have an account back then, but I distinctly remember the fanboy sh*tstorm that took place when Gamespot gave Shenmue a 6.5. The fanboys whined so much that Gamespot actually went back and CHANGED the score to a 7.5 without changing the text of the review (which, I think, is just as big a dent to the site's credibility as the Gerstmann fiasco). I also remember when Super Mario Sunshine got an 8-point-something. The fanboys have been doing exactly what they're doing right now for as long as I can remember, going all the way back to Genesis kids vs SNES kids on the playground.
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#42 Phoenix534
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The emphasis on multiplayer first-person shooters.

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#43 Jankarcop
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The emphasis on multiplayer first-person shooters.

Phoenix534

i think we're seeing that fade recently. i still hold dlc far worse than this

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#44 OneSanitarium
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This game: :( I wish I could have prevented its existance.

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Casuals and casulization of the gaming industry

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Assassin's Creed

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#47 Uloset
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DLC's the industry can suck it only difference now is I just wait for the GOTY ed or something similar if the DLC are anything I am even interested in. Either way they are losing money on me because I've pretty much stopped buying games near their release date. Unfortunately they are making money hand over fist on DLC's. I just feel bad for someone who is so dumb they'd pay 15 bucks for a COD map pack filled with a bunch of levels made on the same game engine a year earlier.

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#48 Demonjoe93
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DLC: What an abomination.
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#49 Demonjoe93
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Casuals and casulization of the gaming industry

g0ddyX
Casuals have been in this industry for longer than just this gen.
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#50 Chemical_Viking
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Casuals. It'll be the death of deep gaming if we're not careful.