What kind of power does the cell hold inside?

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#1 ClassicRockFTW
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The Cell is a super computer chip designed by Sony.  DARPA and the US Army are reported to buy PS3's into order to gain Cell chips.

The problem is that the Cell's architecture is so foreign and alien (perhaps a hint to it's origins) and only a fraction of it's power was unlocked.

ND and GG both managed to get more out of the Cell producing this gen's best looking games (Uncharted2/3, Killzone2/3).

The question is what is the Cell's faith next gen?

This is interesting because the Xbox 360 has inferior GPU and CPU and it has held back the PS3 for so long, meanwhile next gen starts and games like GTA V on the PS3 rival even the most graphics intensive PC exclusives. The future sure looks bright for the Cell.

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The Cell is a super computer chip designed by Sony.  DARPA and the US Army are reported to buy PS3's into order to gain Cell chips.

The problem is that the Cell's architecture is so foreign and alien (perhaps a hint to it's origins) and only a fraction of it's power was unlocked.

ND and GG both managed to get more out of the Cell producing this gen's best looking games (Uncharted2/3, Killzone2/3).

The question is what is the Cell's faith next gen?

This is interesting because the Xbox 360 has inferior GPU and CPU and it has held back the PS3 for so long, meanwhile next gen starts and games like GTA V on the PS3 rival even the most graphics intensive PC exclusives. The future sure looks bright for the Cell.

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The Cell is a super computer chip designed by Sony.  DARPA and the US Army are reported to buy PS3's into order to gain Cell chips.

The problem is that the Cell's architecture is so foreign and alien (perhaps a hint to it's origins) and only a fraction of it's power was unlocked.

ND and GG both managed to get more out of the Cell producing this gen's best looking games (Uncharted2/3, Killzone2/3).

The question is what is the Cell's faith next gen?

This is interesting because the Xbox 360 has inferior GPU and CPU and it has held back the PS3 for so long, meanwhile next gen starts and games like GTA V on the PS3 rival even the most graphics intensive PC exclusives. The future sure looks bright for the Cell.

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CELL does well in parallel work loads, it does Folding @ home really well also. Game wise, it is harder to program for because the nature of games are not parallel work loads. The CPU in the 360 would get it's backside handed to it in any compute task.
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#4 Kinthalis
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Uhm.... Not sure if trolling or what.

 

In the off case you aren't. The "cell" architecture is NOT coming back for the PS4. That shoudl tell you right there, how much that chip sucked.

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I'm pretty sure the 360 GPU was/is more powerful than what is found in the PS3 And LOLWUT are you really making the claim that GTAV looks as good as top tier PC games?
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Magical powers
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Some say the Cell is so powerful that it can fuel the sun, others say the origin of life can be found in the cell.

The Cell is the 8th wonder of the world.

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#8 Kinthalis
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[QUOTE="ClassicRockFTW"]

The Cell is a super computer chip designed by Sony.  DARPA and the US Army are reported to buy PS3's into order to gain Cell chips.

The problem is that the Cell's architecture is so foreign and alien (perhaps a hint to it's origins) and only a fraction of it's power was unlocked.

ND and GG both managed to get more out of the Cell producing this gen's best looking games (Uncharted2/3, Killzone2/3).

The question is what is the Cell's faith next gen?

This is interesting because the Xbox 360 has inferior GPU and CPU and it has held back the PS3 for so long, meanwhile next gen starts and games like GTA V on the PS3 rival even the most graphics intensive PC exclusives. The future sure looks bright for the Cell.

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CELL does well in parallel work loads, it does Folding @ home really well also. Game wise, it is harder to program for because the nature of games are not parallel work loads. The CPU in the 360 would get it's backside handed to it in any compute task.

 

It's not just an issue of parallel workloads. The cell's "cores" are ectremly paired down and specialized. Soem workloads, even if they could well parallelized, would simply not run efficiently on it.

 

It's the same issue as with GPU's. There are some workloads that simply aren't optimized ot be run on compute shader cores. They simply run better on a  CPU.

 

Take Video encoding as an example. Throw 2 CPu cores at a video renderer and it'lls clae well, throw 6, and that scaling is even better. But run the same process on a GPU and there's almost no improvement in performance, even though you are running the process on a HUNDRED+ GPU cores.

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[QUOTE="AMD655"][QUOTE="ClassicRockFTW"]

The Cell is a super computer chip designed by Sony.  DARPA and the US Army are reported to buy PS3's into order to gain Cell chips.

The problem is that the Cell's architecture is so foreign and alien (perhaps a hint to it's origins) and only a fraction of it's power was unlocked.

ND and GG both managed to get more out of the Cell producing this gen's best looking games (Uncharted2/3, Killzone2/3).

The question is what is the Cell's faith next gen?

This is interesting because the Xbox 360 has inferior GPU and CPU and it has held back the PS3 for so long, meanwhile next gen starts and games like GTA V on the PS3 rival even the most graphics intensive PC exclusives. The future sure looks bright for the Cell.

Kinthalis

CELL does well in parallel work loads, it does Folding @ home really well also. Game wise, it is harder to program for because the nature of games are not parallel work loads. The CPU in the 360 would get it's backside handed to it in any compute task.

 

It's not just an issue of parallel workloads. The cell's "cores" are ectremly paired down and specialized. Soem workloads, even if they could well parallelized, would simply not run efficiently on it.

 

It's the same issue as with GPU's. There are some workloads that simply aren't optimized ot be run on compute shader cores. They simply run better on a  CPU.

 

Take Video encoding as an example. Throw 2 CPu cores at a video renderer and it'lls clae well, throw 6, and that scaling is even better. But run the same process on a GPU and there's almost no improvement in performance, even though you are running the process on a HUNDRED+ GPU cores.

I am just comparing CELL to the X360 CPU ;)
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The cell power is unlimited 5 years from now, with continual breakthroughs in cell programming technology, new PS3 games will be running 4K and 120FPS. Much higher potential than PS4 or Xbox One and their limited PC architectures could ever hope for.
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It's said to hold the cure to Cancer inside it. But it's so powerful that we haven't been able to penetrate it's surface yet

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Teh cell is the best thing ever made, it can't be explained in simple words.
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Teh cell is the best thing ever made, it can't be explained in simple words.
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The CELL is so awesome that Sony abandoned it the first chance they could. 

Good work TC. I can see the subtle humour. 

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Making the basement dwellers to have boners about teh cell :cool:
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it wasn't designed, it was recreated chips taken from UFOs and ancient artifacts from the lost city of Atlantis
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The cell has near infinite power but Sony chose not to unlock it because they knew it would be like opening Pandora's box. Really, sony is the savior of humanity because they chose to open a mere fraction of its true power.

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Well, the CELL is a rare instance where SONY did not copy the technology/concept/idea of another (See rumble, Wiimote, that PS Vita animals game, or many countless other examples)

So rather unsurprisingly as this was Sony's own idea - it was a rather pathetic one. So this gen they've gone with x86 architecture in the console like Microsoft's original Xbox, and they've gone with unified shaders like in 2005's Xbox 360. Good to see Sony has developed a method for success - plagiarise. 

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Ah yes, the CELL - weaker than a Pentium 4 for general processing, stronger than a i7 in raw GFLOPS performance...

Would be interesting to see how a upgraded version of the CELL would fare in the PS4 but it seems Sony was displeased with it.

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The cell has near infinite power but Sony chose not to unlock it because they knew it would be like opening Pandora's box. Really, sony is the savior of humanity because they chose to open a mere fraction of its true power.

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Thank you Sony, Thank you Kaz

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Not yet known, it's freakin alien tech from the future afterall...

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All the shattered hopes and dreams of fanboys past. 

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Chuck Norris punched IBM, that caused them to produce the CELL, FROM THE FUTURE

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It holds the greatest power of all - the human heart. Believe!

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Power of a toaster released in 2010
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The Cell is a super computer chip designed by Sony.  DARPA and the US Army are reported to buy PS3's into order to gain Cell chips.

The problem is that the Cell's architecture is so foreign and alien (perhaps a hint to it's origins) and only a fraction of it's power was unlocked.

ND and GG both managed to get more out of the Cell producing this gen's best looking games (Uncharted2/3, Killzone2/3).

The question is what is the Cell's faith next gen?

This is interesting because the Xbox 360 has inferior GPU and CPU and it has held back the PS3 for so long, meanwhile next gen starts and games like GTA V on the PS3 rival even the most graphics intensive PC exclusives. The future sure looks bright for the Cell.

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I'm really confused. Is this a troll post?

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The power to turn thousands of teenagers and young adults into blithering fanboy idiots.

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The CELL can be very powerful, but its not the best type of processor for gaming.

Even the Xenon in the 360 is made around the CELL.

 

A lot of info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_%28microprocessor%29

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The CELLLLL

 

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