What next-gen "gimmick" has the most WIN?

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#1 ShadowDeathX
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Wii U:  Tablet Gaming + Motion Controls via WiiMote+

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Playstation 4: Dualshock 4 (TouchPad) + PS EYE + PS Move

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Xbox Infinity: Unknown Controller + Kinect 2.0 + Your Body

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PC: Oculus Rift VR + Improved Hydra

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#2 Cherokee_Jack
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I have to conclude Kinect has the most "win" because I dislike it the most.
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thanks for the pic i wouldn't know what were you talking about without it. I want complete augmented reality. distorted sounds and vision so Rift sounds awesome
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#4 Ly_the_Fairy
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The occulus rift looks the best, but the WiiU pad looks to have the most potential to be able to introduce so many things to console gaming.

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#5 ShadowDeathX
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Wow. Wii U winning?
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#6 Optical_Order
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Hard to know when we haven't even seen Kinect 2.0 and a very limited view of the PS4. 

I think the Wii U tablet is awesome though. 

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Man I never thought about pairing Oculus rift with my Razer Hydra that would be pretty awesome!

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#8 arto1223
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The Oculus Rift for sure, also the Razer Hydra is the most precise of all the motion things, but I'm not a fan of motion.

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#9 Giancar
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Smartphones and Consoles connectivity. Could be fun for stats, achievements, maps, and so on.
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the wii u, because it's non-intrusive for devs and versatile, and because no one will use the move or hydra, or the headtracking from the oculus.
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Man I never thought about pairing Oculus rift with my Razer Hydra that would be pretty awesome!

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unless the hydra doesn't rely on any kind of pointer technology (which that green ball seems to imply it does), you won't be able to move your whole body away from the "main screen". and of course, there's the fact that the oculus rift has wires coming out of it. or at the very least A wire.
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#12 wakefulness
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Smartphones and Consoles connectivity. Could be fun for stats, achievements, maps, and so on.Giancar

 

How many companion type apps do you have and use on your smartphone right now? (Or anyone else for that matter.)

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The share and stream stuff with PS4. I assume it's gonna suck like for the first few years, but I think eventually it's gonna be really cool.
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The share and stream stuff with PS4. I assume it's gonna suck like for the first few years, but I think eventually it's gonna be really cool. jg4xchamp
TC didn't list it, so i forgot about it. i really like the idea of instant replay and auto recording.
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#15 wakefulness
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]The share and stream stuff with PS4. I assume it's gonna suck like for the first few years, but I think eventually it's gonna be really cool. BrunoBRS
TC didn't list it, so i forgot about it. i really like the idea of instant replay and auto recording.

 

Not really a gimmick than, is it?

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]The share and stream stuff with PS4. I assume it's gonna suck like for the first few years, but I think eventually it's gonna be really cool. wakefulness

TC didn't list it, so i forgot about it. i really like the idea of instant replay and auto recording.

 

Not really a gimmick than, is it?

Yeah I was a little loose with the gimmick term.

Pretty much anything beyond the usual software lineup I'm tossing into gimmick/bonus territory. It's a cool feature. I wouldn't buy a system for it the same way I wouldn't buy the WiiU for the tablet(more so I would buy it for Bayonetta 2, Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, etc) in that regard, but then we get into this giant discussion about what is a gimmick isn't a gimmick, the definition of gimmick, someone gives the rich history behind the word gimmick, we have a giant SW poll and thesis on what should be called a gimmick, and I ignore all of it and go take a nap or go watch porn or something.

So I'm gonna go with my route of just lumping it in that category, because I think out of the "bonuses" the consoles have to offer the PS4 has the most interesting one.

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]The share and stream stuff with PS4. I assume it's gonna suck like for the first few years, but I think eventually it's gonna be really cool. wakefulness

TC didn't list it, so i forgot about it. i really like the idea of instant replay and auto recording.

 

Not really a gimmick than, is it?

...oh yeah, i forgot this is SW, where words and terms take completely different meanings, and that if you like it, it's not a gimmick.
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They all suck and are full of fail.
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#19 Mystery_Writer
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I'm confused, shall I pick the one I like or dislike?
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#20 wakefulness
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[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] TC didn't list it, so i forgot about it. i really like the idea of instant replay and auto recording.jg4xchamp

 

Not really a gimmick than, is it?

Yeah I was a little loose with the gimmick term.

Pretty much anything beyond the usual software lineup I'm tossing into gimmick/bonus territory. It's a cool feature. I wouldn't buy a system for it the same way I wouldn't buy the WiiU for the tablet(more so I would buy it for Bayonetta 2, Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, etc) in that regard, but then we get into this giant discussion about what is a gimmick isn't a gimmick, the definition of gimmick, someone gives the rich history behind the word gimmick, we have a giant SW poll and thesis on what should be called a gimmick, and I ignore all of it and go take a nap or go watch porn or something.

So I'm gonna go with my route of just lumping it in that category, because I think out of the "bonuses" the consoles have to offer the PS4 has the most interesting one.

 

Oh sweet Jebus, I need to see this!

 

Yeah, I was thinking that it a user did want to buy something bc it's on a device than it's technically not a gimmick (to them at least). Agreed,

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#21 wakefulness
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[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] TC didn't list it, so i forgot about it. i really like the idea of instant replay and auto recording.BrunoBRS

 

Not really a gimmick than, is it?

...oh yeah, i forgot this is SW, where words and terms take completely different meanings, and that if you like it, it's not a gimmick.

 

I wont win this fight. I tap out! XD

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I would usually say that VR is terrible, but Occulus Rift from what I have read, is a game changer, it is the real deal. It combines head tracking, and a 1080p display which actually covers your whole face, so all you see is the game. Moving your head to left in real life moves your head to the left in the game, same goes for up and down. Just imagine Mirror's Edge, or BF3 and Crysis 3's near photorealistic visuals with the headset, if done right, and supposedly, it is pretty amazing, it will be the future of gaming.

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="wakefulness"]

 

Not really a gimmick than, is it?

wakefulness

...oh yeah, i forgot this is SW, where words and terms take completely different meanings, and that if you like it, it's not a gimmick.

 

I wont win this fight. I tap out! XD

lol. but seriously, "gimmick" has such a negative connotation over here. the gimmick is just the "twist" that sets something apart from others, and for some reason that's seen as a horrible sin on SW, while remaining oblivious to the fact that without them, all games (and i'm talking software here) would be the exact same. battlefield's gimmicks are vehicles and destruction, thief's gimmick is the lighting system, and so on.
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#24 wakefulness
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[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] ...oh yeah, i forgot this is SW, where words and terms take completely different meanings, and that if you like it, it's not a gimmick.BrunoBRS

 

I wont win this fight. I tap out! XD

lol.

but seriously, "gimmick" has such a negative connotation over here. the gimmick is just the "twist" that sets something apart from others, and for some reason that's seen as a horrible sin on SW, while remaining oblivious to the fact that without them, all games (and i'm talking software here) would be the exact same. battlefield's gimmicks are vehicles and destruction, thief's gimmick is the lighting system, and so on.

 

Interesting. Now answer this - what's the antithesis of a gimmick? 

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#25 PernicioEnigma
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Oculus Rift by far. It has the potential to revolutionize gaming. The others are just cheap gimmicks that probably wont be supported by most serious developers.
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Oculus Rift. No contest.
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#27 killzowned24
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Rift won't be any good.moving your head around constantly will be crappy,not to mention you would look like a major hermit wearing such a thing. Sony got the best all around motion controls with Move giving very precise movements and the stereo camera should be able to do what kinect can do.
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#28 balfe1990
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Rift by a long shot.

The fact that it's got vets like Carmack and Newell excited says to me that it's not a gimmick. Possibly the next and first step into evolving how we play games again.

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#29 balfe1990
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Rift won't be any good.moving your head around constantly will be crappy,not to mention you would look like a major hermit wearing such a thing.killzowned24

I agree with this, you'd look like a massive nerd wearing the thing, but it still looks like an awesome experience regardless. As long as you never show it to another living soul, you should be fine :p

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#30 StrongBlackVine
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Oculus Rift by far. It has the potential to revolutionize gaming. The others are just cheap gimmicks that probably wont be supported by most serious developers.PernicioEnigma

Hopefully you hermits will posts pic of yourselves wearing virtual reality headsets. Should rival Kinect laughs.

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#31 HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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I think Kinect 2. Not really for the motion controls but for the touted much improved voice recognition. With consoles becoming much more than just a games machine, navigating and controlling the system by voice could be a big thing.

 

Occulus Rift looks great and I think their will be a new VR boom in the coming years. I think there will be a few revisions and upgrades to the hardware/software first before someone really nails it.

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Hate them all, but VR would be the most interesting.

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#33 PernicioEnigma
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[QUOTE="PernicioEnigma"]Oculus Rift by far. It has the potential to revolutionize gaming. The others are just cheap gimmicks that probably wont be supported by most serious developers.StrongBlackVine

Hopefully you hermits will posts pic of yourselves wearing virtual reality headsets. Should rival Kinect laughs.

Well they do say ignorance is bliss.
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#35 faizan_faizan
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Oculus Rift.

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Rift is gonna see all platforms if it's any good - they are working on UE integration.

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#37 ShadowDeathX
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Rift is gonna see all platforms if it's any good - they are working on UE integration.

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It already has Unreal Engine 3 Integration. Unreal Engine 4 Integration will soon be there too.
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#38 LastRambo341
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Do people know what does "gimmick" mean?
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="wakefulness"]

 

I wont win this fight. I tap out! XD

wakefulness

lol.

but seriously, "gimmick" has such a negative connotation over here. the gimmick is just the "twist" that sets something apart from others, and for some reason that's seen as a horrible sin on SW, while remaining oblivious to the fact that without them, all games (and i'm talking software here) would be the exact same. battlefield's gimmicks are vehicles and destruction, thief's gimmick is the lighting system, and so on.

 

Interesting. Now answer this - what's the antithesis of a gimmick? 

the antithesis of "something that sets a thing apart from the rest" would be "something that doesn't change at all". it would be stagnant, and last i checked, everyone agreed that stagnant things were bad.
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[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

Rift is gonna see all platforms if it's any good - they are working on UE integration.

ShadowDeathX

It already has Unreal Engine 3 Integration. Unreal Engine 4 Integration will soon be there too.


Holy f*ck, Imagine BF3 with this, I wonder how much the price is.

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#41 blackace
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Wii U tablet for now until was see more innovative games that use it. Don't know what Kinect 2 will be like. Should be improved greatly over the first one.
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Im going to have to say the Wii U tablet/Motion Control. i got to use it at my Cousins house and had a blast playing Luigies haunted mansion and Metroid Blast.
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Oculus Rift.  A 3D head-mounted display isn't asking developers to reimagine how they build games and could be easily incorporated into established game design.

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#44 JamDev
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Wouldn't the 'least fail' be more accurate? Gimmicks only serve to railroad developers into choices that detract from games, all these 'innovative' controls schemes do is to stifle creativity and make interacting with games more cumbersome for the user. The VR headset is the least bad option as it doesn't dictate game design, but it's still a novelty that is as likely to detract from games as to add to them. More immersion? possibly, more nausea and headaches? almost certainly.
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[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] lol.

but seriously, "gimmick" has such a negative connotation over here. the gimmick is just the "twist" that sets something apart from others, and for some reason that's seen as a horrible sin on SW, while remaining oblivious to the fact that without them, all games (and i'm talking software here) would be the exact same. battlefield's gimmicks are vehicles and destruction, thief's gimmick is the lighting system, and so on.BrunoBRS

 

Interesting. Now answer this - what's the antithesis of a gimmick? 

the antithesis of "something that sets a thing apart from the rest" would be "something that doesn't change at all". it would be stagnant, and last i checked, everyone agreed that stagnant things were bad.

 

Websters dictionary is getting a run for its money.

 

What about VITA's backtouch? Would you consider that a gimmick? 

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Kinect 2.0 will destroy all and everything.
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="wakefulness"]

 

Interesting. Now answer this - what's the antithesis of a gimmick? 

wakefulness

the antithesis of "something that sets a thing apart from the rest" would be "something that doesn't change at all". it would be stagnant, and last i checked, everyone agreed that stagnant things were bad.

 

Websters dictionary is getting a run for its money.

 

What about VITA's backtouch? Would you consider that a gimmick? 

sure. pretty much anything that sets something apart from the rest can be considered such. hell, there was a time when analog sticks, or even 3D graphics (!) were considered gimmicks, before they became the standard.

 

also, the definition: "An innovative or unusual mechanical contrivance; a gadget." or "An innovative stratagem or scheme employed especially to promote a project".

 

or from wikipedia, "In marketing language, a gimmick is a unique or quirky special feature that makes something "stand out" from its contemporaries."

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I choose Wii U.
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[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] the antithesis of "something that sets a thing apart from the rest" would be "something that doesn't change at all". it would be stagnant, and last i checked, everyone agreed that stagnant things were bad.BrunoBRS

 

Websters dictionary is getting a run for its money.

 

What about VITA's backtouch? Would you consider that a gimmick? 

sure. pretty much anything that sets something apart from the rest can be considered such. hell, there was a time when analog sticks, or even 3D graphics (!) were considered gimmicks, before they became the standard.

 

also, the definition: "An innovative or unusual mechanical contrivance; a gadget." or "An innovative stratagem or scheme employed especially to promote a project".

 

or from wikipedia, "In marketing language, a gimmick is a unique or quirky special feature that makes something "stand out" from its contemporaries."

 

 

It is interesting than, because that would mean smartphones are the antithesis of gimmicks. Bc, we (practically) see the same smartphone hardware come out and the only hardware "gimmick" is better battery/brighter screen/thinner chassis/faster mobile processors . . . and those are hardly unusual contrivances. Those things fall in line with the theory of technology increasing in high factors (as time goes on) as wel as phones being a pockatable means of social communication. I don't think a product that demonstrates the advancement of technology and that provides valuable social interaction is a "gimmick" (at least, not in the examples you have given).

 

Hmmm. 

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]

[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

 

Websters dictionary is getting a run for its money.

 

What about VITA's backtouch? Would you consider that a gimmick? 

wakefulness

sure. pretty much anything that sets something apart from the rest can be considered such. hell, there was a time when analog sticks, or even 3D graphics (!) were considered gimmicks, before they became the standard.

 

also, the definition: "An innovative or unusual mechanical contrivance; a gadget." or "An innovative stratagem or scheme employed especially to promote a project".

 

or from wikipedia, "In marketing language, a gimmick is a unique or quirky special feature that makes something "stand out" from its contemporaries."

 

 

It is interesting than, because that would mean smartphones are the antithesis of gimmicks. Bc, we (practically) see the same smartphone hardware come out and the only hardware "gimmick" is better battery/brighter screen/thinner chassis/faster mobile processors . . . and those are hardly unusual contrivances. Those things fall in line with the theory of technology increasing in high factors (as time goes on) as wel as phones being a pockatable means of social communication. I don't think a product that demonstrates the advancement of technology and that provides valuable social interaction is a "gimmick" (at least, not in the examples you have given).

 

Hmmm. 

but before smartphones, there had to be touch screen cellphones, and before that, regular cellphones, and before that, normal phones. "it's a phone, that you can take with you!" "it's a phone that has no buttons!" "it's a phone that can connect to the internet!" and so on. look, for example, at that galaxy smartphone that's almost as big as a tablet. its tagline is, putting it simply, "screw small screens, you want something huge. we got you covered". it goes against the convention of increasing portability for the sake of standing out, and some might argue it's an improvement (after all, bigger screens are always a plus, it just depends on how much portability you're willing to sacrifice for it).