What resolutions can the Wii do? Also, can the Xbox360 and PS-3 ALWAYS do 1080p?

I know that the Wii cando High-Definition with some backward-compatible games.

By ALWAYS, I mean willthe 360 and ps3be able to play 1080p with all games of this generation as well as all backward-compatible games?

the_hitman_guy

I'm sorry. But you've got 3 different questions all rolled into one. The Wii question should be in the Wii forum. The 360 question should be in the 360 forum. And the PS3 question should be in the PS3 forum. This topic has nothing to do with system wars...

[QUOTE="the_hitman_guy"]

I know that the Wii cando High-Definition with some backward-compatible games.

By ALWAYS, I mean willthe 360 and ps3be able to play 1080p with all games of this generation as well as all backward-compatible games?

AvIdGaMeR444

I'm sorry. But you've got 3 different questions all rolled into one. The Wii question should be in the Wii forum. The 360 question should be in the 360 forum. And the PS3 question should be in the PS3 forum. This topic has nothing to do with system wars...

You're kinda right...

But you're being a "lulz killer" right now /ancient joke

[QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"][QUOTE="ssbfalco"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"][QUOTE="SER69"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]The Wii is locked at 480p. The PS3 and 360 can barely do 1080p.ssbfalco

My Wii can do 576p just fine.

Uh, what?

Wii games are native 480p, andthe console outputs a max of 480p.

Even if you hooked up the Wii to an external scaler, it would still look like garbage in an HD resolution (of which 576p is not, where the Hell did you get a 576 p ED TV???) as it would just be upscaled 480p.

Way to make us Americans seem ignorant to other countries...

576p is PAL's Standard Definition... Like in Europe... yeah over there... Near that China place where everything's made in...

Way to make yourself ignorant to other countries.

576i is standard PAL definition..... so my question stands.

Curse you "p/i" !!!!

Magnum PI?

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Wii maxes out at 480p.

PS3 an 360 are both capable of 1080p, but very few games actually render at that resolution (most render at 720p). There are a few games on PS3 that scale 720p up to 1080p (Ninja Gaiden Sigma), and the 360's scaler can upscale games to 1080p.
Elite_Spartan21

You are very uninformed.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma for the PS3 is native true 1080p.

CanBioshock go 1920x1080 on 360???MIYAMOTOnext007

So upscale 1080pdoesn't look as good as the native version of 1080p??MIYAMOTOnext007

Upscaling can't add pixels that weren't there, but attempts to smooth things out... Though some upscalers are better than others at that...

[QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"]So upscale 1080pdoesn't look as good as the native version of 1080p??ssbfalco

Upscaling can't add pixels that weren't there, but attempts to smooth things out... Though some upscalers are better than others at that...

[QUOTE="ssbfalco"]

[QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"]So upscale 1080pdoesn't look as good as the native version of 1080p??MIYAMOTOnext007

Upscaling can't add pixels that weren't there, but attempts to smooth things out... Though some upscalers are better than others at that...

Well, by adding I meant (I should go to sleep now) that it can't add any more detail. But it adds pixels to produce the strecthing, but that stretching is filtered so it's relatively smooth...

[QUOTE="ssbfalco"]

[QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"]So upscale 1080pdoesn't look as good as the native version of 1080p??MIYAMOTOnext007

Upscaling can't add pixels that weren't there, but attempts to smooth things out... Though some upscalers are better than others at that...

It does add in the process of "smoothing", the problem is, it won't be correct. If the games graphics are not detailed enough to warranta certain resolution, then upscaling it will actually create a loss in clarity trying to make up differences that aren't there.

[QUOTE="ssbfalco"]

[QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"]So upscale 1080pdoesn't look as good as the native version of 1080p??MIYAMOTOnext007

Upscaling can't add pixels that weren't there, but attempts to smooth things out... Though some upscalers are better than others at that...

Wow, I didn't know System Wars had this many Hardware Technician in it.Pro_wrestler

this HD-gen has created it.

[QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"][QUOTE="ssbfalco"]

[QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"]So upscale 1080pdoesn't look as good as the native version of 1080p??Teufelhuhn

Upscaling can't add pixels that weren't there, but attempts to smooth things out... Though some upscalers are better than others at that...

[QUOTE="ssbfalco"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"][QUOTE="ssbfalco"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"][QUOTE="SER69"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]The Wii is locked at 480p. The PS3 and 360 can barely do 1080p.Bill_McBlumpkin

My Wii can do 576p just fine.

Uh, what?

Wii games are native 480p, andthe console outputs a max of 480p.

Even if you hooked up the Wii to an external scaler, it would still look like garbage in an HD resolution (of which 576p is not, where the Hell did you get a 576 p ED TV???) as it would just be upscaled 480p.

Way to make us Americans seem ignorant to other countries...

576p is PAL's Standard Definition... Like in Europe... yeah over there... Near that China place where everything's made in...

Way to make yourself ignorant to other countries.

576i is standard PAL definition..... so my question stands.

Curse you "p/i" !!!!

Magnum PI?

Well..my crappy samsung tv says that the incomming signal from my Wii is at 576p. It could be wrong tho... :?

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="BEAN_LARD_MULCH"]I don't recall 360 games being able to do 1080p..correct if im wronggmastersexay

All 360 games that have released since Lost Planet can do full and true 1080p through HDMI.

Are you saying that Lost Planet can also do true 1080p? If so, you are wrong. It is upscaled.

http://www.capcom.com/BBS/showthread.php?t=11035&highlight=1080p

I thought that was what he meant. Unless stated by the developer all 360 games are REQUIRED to do ATLEASt 720p and all Xbox games are upconverted. PS3 I believe only has one maxed resolution then downscales accordingly (ie: If Killzone 2 is 720p max then your tv won't upscale it to 1080p and if its 1080p and your tv does 720p max then its downscaled).

So PC 1920x1080 is always native and good, while most 360 games only upscale to 1920x1080 and don't turn out to look as good ???MIYAMOTOnext007

[QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"]So PC 1920x1080 is always native and good, while most 360 games only upscale to 1920x1080 and don't turn out to look as good ???Teufelhuhn

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"]So PC 1920x1080 is always native and good, while most 360 games only upscale to 1920x1080 and don't turn out to look as good ???MIYAMOTOnext007

The 1680 x 1050 should look better. 1680 x 1050 is a lot more pixels than 1280 x 720, which any 360 upcaled game would render at. Teufelhuhn

Just for comparison sakes I will do that math...

1680x1050 = 1,764,000 pixels
1280x720 = 869,760 pixels
Difference = 894,240 pixels

1680x1050 is more double the effective resolution of 1280x720. There is a massive difference in level of detail.

[QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"][QUOTE="ssbfalco"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"][QUOTE="ssbfalco"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"][QUOTE="SER69"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]The Wii is locked at 480p. The PS3 and 360 can barely do 1080p.SER69

My Wii can do 576p just fine.

Uh, what?

Wii games are native 480p, andthe console outputs a max of 480p.

Even if you hooked up the Wii to an external scaler, it would still look like garbage in an HD resolution (of which 576p is not, where the Hell did you get a 576 p ED TV???) as it would just be upscaled 480p.

Way to make us Americans seem ignorant to other countries...

576p is PAL's Standard Definition... Like in Europe... yeah over there... Near that China place where everything's made in...

Way to make yourself ignorant to other countries.

576i is standard PAL definition..... so my question stands.

Curse you "p/i" !!!!

Magnum PI?

Well..my crappy samsung tv says that the incomming signal from my Wii is at 576p. It could be wrong tho... :?

No, it would be right. It totally slipped my mind that in Europe Wii would output the progressive version of the PAL standard definition. I had my Wii setting too much on my mind, I guess.

I thought you were implying that you actually had an ED 576P TV, though (I don't believe ED plasmas / CRT's have been manufactured in YEARS.... I haven't seen one in stores for over half a decade, at least... so I thought it odd that you'd have one.) You might for all I know, I don't know how the TV market is in Europe.

Your Wii is sending 576 P to your Sammy, your Sammy is displaying the res of the incoming signal, and it is upscaling that signal to its native res (either 720p, or 1080p I assume.)

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]The 1680 x 1050 should look better. 1680 x 1050 is a lot more pixels than 1280 x 720, which any 360 upcaled game would render at. foxhound_fox

Just for comparison sakes I will do that math...

1680x1050 = 1,764,000 pixels
1280x720 = 869,760 pixels
Difference = 894,240 pixels

1680x1050 is more double the effective resolution of 1280x720. There is a massive difference in level of detail.

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"][QUOTE="ssbfalco"]

[QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"]So upscale 1080pdoesn't look as good as the native version of 1080p??MIYAMOTOnext007

Upscaling can't add pixels that weren't there, but attempts to smooth things out... Though some upscalers are better than others at that...

bingo

360 can output 1080p from everything. But almost every single game is native 720p. PS3 outputs whatever the native signal is, but a lot of games will be 1080p. Both upscale old games to 1080p. The Wii outputs everything at 480p.

Lol, HD defition$ :cry:

Pc gamers have been gaming in HD since 1998, but teh nex GEnZ consoles have HD now too!111!!! :lol:

So upscale 1080pdoesn't look as good as the native version of 1080p??MIYAMOTOnext007

Hell no.

At best, it looks AS GOOD as the resolution it was upscaled from. That's if the upscaler is good. At worst, it actually looks poorer than the resolution it was upscaled from.

Upscaling isn't done to make games look better as some here would have you believe (which is just a stupid notion, because the rendered resolution doesn't change.) It's only done for better HDTV compatability.

[QUOTE="neo786"]

ps3 is the only console that can do full 1080p

360 even with HDMI it cant cause the console cant output it, but it can upscale

GatoFeo

Yea what he said.

Umh, no. 360 can do 1080p even through component as long as the output device(TV, monitor) supports the input from the component cable at 1080p.

Lol, HD defition$ :cry:

Pc gamers have been gaming in HD since 1998, but teh nex GEnZ consoles have HD now too!111!!! :lol:

Gangans

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]The 1680 x 1050 should look better. 1680 x 1050 is a lot more pixels than 1280 x 720, which any 360 upcaled game would render at. MIYAMOTOnext007

Just for comparison sakes I will do that math...

1680x1050 = 1,764,000 pixels
1280x720 = 869,760 pixels
Difference = 894,240 pixels

1680x1050 is more double the effective resolution of 1280x720. There is a massive difference in level of detail.

Upscaling is like the meaningless, digital zoom which stupid cameras often resort to when the optical zoom has run out.

Setting a PC game to 1280x720 on a monitor whose maximum resolution is1920x1080 is like playing a 360 game on a 1080p HDTV.

GeForce 8000 series can handle 2560x1600

2560x1600 = 4,096,000

1280x720 = 921,600 (why are ours 720p different?)

Difference = 4.5 X

Even now, the PC can handle resolutions 4.5 higher than the consoles!

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]resolution =/= graphics. Don't worry about it so much.the_hitman_guy

I'd rather play1920x1080 at minimum settings than 1280x720 at maximum settings.

then you're going to miss a lot of what makes the game pretty. you'll get more resolution but lose AA,AF, Shaders, Clipping Range, etc.

[QUOTE="the_hitman_guy"]

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]resolution =/= graphics. Don't worry about it so much.Ontain

I'd rather play1920x1080 at minimum settings than 1280x720 at maximum settings.

then you're going to miss a lot of what makes the game pretty. you'll get more resolution but lose AA,AF, Shaders, Clipping Range, etc.

I don't care much about AA (I can just move back from the monitor a bit and it looks smooth) but I always pump things like Physics, Clipping Range, and Body Count.:D

the only system doing 1080p is xbox. ps3 does'nt even have it form the developers to got that far you have to scale down to 720 to get a good game.F1sTDaCuffS

That's completely false. Both the 360 and PS3 have native games running in 1080p.

720p = the best resolution to play games, 1080p= overrated crap.VACASCULIADAS

Meh, I prefer 1080i.

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="the_hitman_guy"]

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]resolution =/= graphics. Don't worry about it so much.the_hitman_guy

I'd rather play1920x1080 at minimum settings than 1280x720 at maximum settings.

then you're going to miss a lot of what makes the game pretty. you'll get more resolution but lose AA,AF, Shaders, Clipping Range, etc.

I don't care much about AA (I can just move back from the monitor a bit and it looks smooth) but I always pump things like Physics, Clipping Range, and Body Count.:D

pumping up the resolution will have an identicle effect as to raising the AA.

Wii=ed:480p

360:HD:1080p and upscaled to 1080p for original xbox games

PS3:HD:1080 and no ps2 upscale

Miles0T0Prower

Correction

PS3: 1080p and ps2 upscale up to 1080p, depending on your tv. Also, upscales ps1 games to 1080p.

I know that the Wii cando High-Definition with some backward-compatible games.

By ALWAYS, I mean willthe 360 and ps3be able to play 1080p with all games of this generation as well as all backward-compatible games?

the_hitman_guy

I dont think PS3 nor 360 can do 1080p. PS3 which was a first generation blu-ray just like the first generation HD-DVD players only could do native 1080i. Last time I check correct me if I'm wrong the newer blu-ray/HD-DVD drives are now capable of providing 1080p. Blu-ray discs are encoded in 1080p but do not believe that the PS3 can actually bring 1080p to the telelvision unless they update the drives on the systems themselves.. it basically gets brought down to 720p or 1080i. not too sure. I do notknow for sure that the 360 can do 1080p, because the games are not made that highyet. Even though you can setthe systemto that, it just does not look right if you do.

[QUOTE="the_hitman_guy"]

I know that the Wii cando High-Definition with some backward-compatible games.

By ALWAYS, I mean willthe 360 and ps3be able to play 1080p with all games of this generation as well as all backward-compatible games?

xscrapzx

I dont think PS3 nor 360 can do 1080p. PS3 which was a first generation blu-ray just like the first generation HD-DVD players only could do native 1080i. Last time I check correct me if I'm wrong the newer blu-ray/HD-DVD drives are now capable of providing 1080p. Blu-ray discs are encoded in 1080p but do not believe that the PS3 can actually bring 1080p to the telelvision unless they update the drives on the systems themselves.. it basically gets brought down to 720p or 1080i. not too sure. I do notknow for sure that the 360 can do 1080p, because the games are not made that highyet. Even though you can setthe systemto that, it just does not look right if you do.

A couple of 1080p native games:

Virtua Tennis 3

NBA Street

Both on the 360

[QUOTE="the_hitman_guy"]

I know that the Wii cando High-Definition with some backward-compatible games.

By ALWAYS, I mean willthe 360 and ps3be able to play 1080p with all games of this generation as well as all backward-compatible games?

xscrapzx

I dont think PS3 nor 360 can do 1080p. PS3 which was a first generation blu-ray just like the first generation HD-DVD players only could do native 1080i. Last time I check correct me if I'm wrong the newer blu-ray/HD-DVD drives are now capable of providing 1080p. Blu-ray discs are encoded in 1080p but do not believe that the PS3 can actually bring 1080p to the telelvision unless they update the drives on the systems themselves.. it basically gets brought down to 720p or 1080i. not too sure. I do notknow for sure that the 360 can do 1080p, because the games are not made that highyet. Even though you can setthe systemto that, it just does not look right if you do.

The PS3's Bluray player was delivering 1080p resolution in movies at launch. Even the very first Bluray player, the Samsung BDP1000, could output movies at 1080p. A recent firmware update even allowed 1080p at 24fps on the PS3 which is best for movies. As for games, the PS3 had a few 1080p native games at launch such as NBA 2k7, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, and Ridge Racer.

[QUOTE="BEAN_LARD_MULCH"]I don't recall 360 games being able to do 1080p..correct if im wrongelite_ferns1

Halo 3 upscales to 1080p, Virtua Tennis 3 for 360 though runs at native 1080p

[QUOTE="the_hitman_guy"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="the_hitman_guy"]

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]resolution =/= graphics. Don't worry about it so much.cobrax75

I'd rather play1920x1080 at minimum settings than 1280x720 at maximum settings.

then you're going to miss a lot of what makes the game pretty. you'll get more resolution but lose AA,AF, Shaders, Clipping Range, etc.

I don't care much about AA (I can just move back from the monitor a bit and it looks smooth) but I always pump things like Physics, Clipping Range, and Body Count.:D

pumping up the resolution will have an identicle effect as to raising the AA.

Higher resolutions not only make the lines smoother, but they also allow more detail to be seen on the screen.:D

EDIT: I hate shooting at pixels in long-range games such as FarCry.