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#1 Snake_raider

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gen consoles will have?

i think the next xbox or ps3 will have a 8 core chip, hyperthreaded to 16 cores some sort.. at least 1 gig of ram or more and a gpu with over 500 stream processors.. the hardware out today will be weaker then the specs on the next gen consoles thats for sure

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#2 Theverydeepend

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gen consoles will have?
i think the next xbox or ps3 will have a 8 core chip, hyperthreaded to 16 cores some sort.. at least 1 gig of ram or more and a gpu with over 500 stream processors.. the hardware out today will be weaker then the specs on the next gen consoles thats for sure
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#3 imprezawrx500

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depends if they do the wii way or not

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I think Sony will go for a Cell processor in they're PS3 with at least 12xSPE's or more, maybe 16. And with a higher clock speed, maybe around 5 ghz. I think they have reached 6.0GHZ or more with the cell on test stage. The clock speed of the Ram is gonna be at least the clock speed of the Processor, and the amount should be at least 1GB of system memory and have at least 1 GB of GPU memory.

I think Sony should develop they're GPU by them self this time using a cell processor, it's wrong to use a GPU company, because they release a better GPU after a week anyways. But if they use they're own tech to develop a massive GPU, they're better of. Maybe this time we will see a dual HDMI out. Sony is a hardware company, they should exploit that.

They should atleast have a 5xBD rom and a 250GB HD with higher speed than 7500.

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depends if they do the wii way or notimprezawrx500

you mean stick with the current specs? I hope nintendo makes their next console atleast on par with the 360, PS3. That'd be nice and it's cheap too.

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#6 Dibdibdobdobo

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[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]depends if they do the wii way or notkillerfist

you mean stick with the current specs? I hope nintendo makes their next console atleast on par with the 360, PS3. That'd be nice and it's cheap too.

by the time the NEXT consoles come out i think Nintendo's console will be above both PS3/360 in specs. Components become cheaper by the hour because components are always being upgraded/moded and so forth. Nintendo will release a console which surpasses both and also cheap. Sony will release there version of the Wii (I mean like not a huge jump but more of PS3/1.5 and i think MS will jump 2x the specs of the 360).

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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]depends if they do the wii way or notDibdibdobdobo

you mean stick with the current specs? I hope nintendo makes their next console atleast on par with the 360, PS3. That'd be nice and it's cheap too.

by the time the NEXT consoles come out i think Nintendo's console will be above both PS3/360 in specs. Components become cheaper by the hour because components are always being upgraded/moded and so forth. Nintendo will release a console which surpasses both and also cheap. Sony will release there version of the Wii (I mean like not a huge jump but more of PS3/1.5 and i think MS will jump 2x the specs of the 360).

I think MS will struggle in keeping up with Sony on the next console. They'll have to pay more for each component since they have to buy from other hardware company's, and they also have to use existing technology. This time Sony does'nt have an expensive Cell to develop or an unsure BD drive to impliment. They will use they're own tech and just add more power. MS will also have a powerfull machine, but it'll still be the same tech you'll find in existing PC's.

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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]depends if they do the wii way or notDibdibdobdobo

you mean stick with the current specs? I hope nintendo makes their next console atleast on par with the 360, PS3. That'd be nice and it's cheap too.

by the time the NEXT consoles come out i think Nintendo's console will be above both PS3/360 in specs. Components become cheaper by the hour because components are always being upgraded/moded and so forth. Nintendo will release a console which surpasses both and also cheap. Sony will release there version of the Wii (I mean like not a huge jump but more of PS3/1.5 and i think MS will jump 2x the specs of the 360).

All fine by me.:)

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#9 thegoldenpoo

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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="killerfist"] you mean stick with the current specs? I hope nintendo makes their next console atleast on par with the 360, PS3. That'd be nice and it's cheap too. Martin_G_N

by the time the NEXT consoles come out i think Nintendo's console will be above both PS3/360 in specs. Components become cheaper by the hour because components are always being upgraded/moded and so forth. Nintendo will release a console which surpasses both and also cheap. Sony will release there version of the Wii (I mean like not a huge jump but more of PS3/1.5 and i think MS will jump 2x the specs of the 360).

I think MS will struggle in keeping up with Sony on the next console. They'll have to pay more for each component since they have to buy from other hardware company's, and they also have to use existing technology. This time Sony does'nt have an expensive Cell to develop or an unsure BD drive to impliment. They will use they're own tech and just add more power. MS will also have a powerfull machine, but it'll still be the same tech you'll find in existing PC's.

That could be a two egded sword, microoft might be able to take advantage of new innovations elsewhere. Think about it, if the nextbox can source their hardwear from partner providers it may be able to out-flank sony with ease of programming and raw power. Having the choice of the market is not always a bad thing ;) . Do we even know how well the cell architechture can perform? it seems to me like sony missed the multicore boat having been developing it for so long, sure it can cruch big numbers but all that raw power just seems to be wasted. They might end up having to start from scratch like they did ater the 'emotion engine' that fialed to revolutionize things for them last gen and had them ending up with the worst looking console that was harder to program for than the competiton.

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The easiest thing for Sony to do, like they mentioned, is to make another Cell-based CPU, since it will already be considerably cheaper, and most developers should be at least somewhat familiar with it, its impossible to tap the power of the Cell this gen, not entirely because of the developers, but also because it can't have much to show for it, since the video card likely bottlenecks the CPU quite a bit. If they can throw in to the next-gen hardware, some of the top video cards of today, I'd imagine they'd be fine for quite a while. Plus standard harddrives..everywhere!

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there is the "are they going to do a nintendo?" factor to consider. i dont think sony will because there a hardware company first and foremost (though i dont think they will make a console as expensive as the PS3 was this en at launch....i think sony have learnt there lesson there). MS might though....there a service and software company. the hardware isnt hugely important to them. sony may not go with new format either next gen..they may decide to reuse blu-ray for a few reasons. 1) itll be alot cheaper by the time the PS4 is released 2) the space used at the mo is zip. its using at most 1/4 of the storage in the vast majority of its games. having a 50GB blu-ray disc as standard next gen (with options to go higher if a dev chooses) should fit the bill nicely. 3) the speed of the drives will be far better than they are today. we should be seeing 10-12X blu-ray drives in 2010-2011 and 4) with blu-ray winning, sony wont want to rock the boat by beating there own format). sony have also dropped out of the cell development so i dont think they will be inerested in using it next gen. i suspect that they will be designing a chip thats easier to develop for and custom built for the PS4. sony have tried twice to use the playstation brand to get their foot into the CPU market...and twice it has failed. i think there going to focus on getting the best gamign performance per buck that they can out of their next CPU. GPU from nvidia again...no point trying to reinvent the wheel with the GPU. 2-3GB of ram. as for the controller...i dont think they will abandon the dualshock design but i think there going to split it in two, with motions sensors in each piece and a camera on the right hand side. if MS dont do a ninty then expect similar performance to the PS4 with a similar controller. if they do go the ninty route in terms of hardware then the big improvements for the 720 will come in terms of OS improvements, features and services through xbox live. as for ninty...going by history i think the wii 2 will be about refinement and improvement over the wii. its going to be a case of everything the wii does..the wii 2 will do better. a bit like the nes and snes. i think theres going to be significant improvements to the controller. the wiimote side will have sensors better than those thatll be in wii motion +..and they will be as standard. improved sensor in the nunchuck also. i hope to see a scroll wheel somewhere..there always handy. better IR camera also to imprve pointing accuracy. some more buttons and an improved design will also be in there of couse. think the nes pad vs the snes pad....that kind of scale of improvement. as for horsepower....its hard to call with ninty. there are reports that ninty are spending 3 times more money on r&d this year compared to last (so yes thats 6 yen :P j/k). ninty may decide to go all out and make the most powerful console next gen..though i doubt it. i would be dssapointed if they dont beat the PS3 and 360 in terms of horsepower though. i dont think they will release for a price higher than 300 dollars at launch though and i suspect they will include a game in the box that shows off the new features of the wii2. i also expect they will have onine up and running from day one...though they wont demand that devs use it like MS does with live. but this is ninty..they may make a console powered by love and rainbows, with a CPU designed on clouds and a GPU made of kelp. u just never know with ninty :P. thats my speculation at the moment with regards to next gen consoles

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#12 Itinerant_Voice

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The pessimist in me says same specs as they have right now with waggle.

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[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="Martin_G_N"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"] by the time the NEXT consoles come out i think Nintendo's console will be above both PS3/360 in specs. Components become cheaper by the hour because components are always being upgraded/moded and so forth. Nintendo will release a console which surpasses both and also cheap. Sony will release there version of the Wii (I mean like not a huge jump but more of PS3/1.5 and i think MS will jump 2x the specs of the 360).

I think MS will struggle in keeping up with Sony on the next console. They'll have to pay more for each component since they have to buy from other hardware company's, and they also have to use existing technology. This time Sony does'nt have an expensive Cell to develop or an unsure BD drive to impliment. They will use they're own tech and just add more power. MS will also have a powerfull machine, but it'll still be the same tech you'll find in existing PC's.

That could be a two egded sword, microoft might be able to take advantage of new innovations elsewhere. Think about it, if the nextbox can source their hardwear from partner providers it may be able to out-flank sony with ease of programming and raw power. Having the choice of the market is not always a bad thing ;) . Do we even know how well the cell architechture can perform? it seems to me like sony missed the multicore boat having been developing it for so long, sure it can cruch big numbers but all that raw power just seems to be wasted. They might end up having to start from scratch like they did ater the 'emotion engine' that fialed to revolutionize things for them last gen and had them ending up with the worst looking console that was harder to program for than the competiton.

I think they will be used to the cell by then. Remember that most games out today can still run on an old single core CPU's, so developing games on the cell should learn developers in multicore applications. Most games this gen relies to much from a powerfull GPU instead of a powerfull CPU. The Cell is perfect for taking on GPU applications, something most CPU's is'nt good at. But Sony should develop they're own GPU using the Cell. Having the most powerfull GPU will help a lot.

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gen consoles will have?
i think the next xbox or ps3 will have a 8 core chip, hyperthreaded to 16 cores some sort.. at least 1 gig of ram or more and a gpu with over 500 stream processors.. the hardware out today will be weaker then the specs on the next gen consoles thats for sure
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*facepalm* all next gen consoles will use custom technology, and there won't be as big as emphasis on the amount of "cores"

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Why are we already talking about next gen consoles...it feels like the 360, PS3, and Wii JUST came out...I'll give up video games forever if they companies release new consoles within the next 3 years

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#16 Brainkiller05

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Why are we already talking about next gen consoles...it feels like the 360, PS3, and Wii JUST came out...I'll give up video games forever if they companies release new consoles within the next 3 yearsfat_rob

On the bright side you're going to save a bunch of money.

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Well at the rate that everything is currently priced I have a feeling the next Xbox will have: Custom Six Core CPU @ 3GHz per Core, 3GB of Ram, Video Card Equivalent to or slightly better than a 4870 1GB, 250GB Hard Drive and a custom disc format. Will probably start out at $500. I have a feeling the next Playstation will stick with the Cell, have 2GB of ram, video card equivalent to a GTX 280 1GB, 320GB Hard Drive and Blu-ray disc format. I think that it will start at $400 though. Sony will probably look more towards profit for their next console thats why they'll probably stay with the cell and have less ram. That is if the next consoles come out in 2010/2011.

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#18 -Mad_Rhetoric-

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its too early but the will probably have specs similar to mid - high end PC at the time of their development

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a 64bit architecture procesor / pc compatible

Sony should get out of their arrogance castle and akcnowledge the failure of the cell architecture to compete with what they called "a lower spec console" which is the x360. dont get me wrong, i know that the PS3 have potential and all, but the "no noticeable diffrence" in gfx between the two consoles was not worth the complicated and alien cell technology.

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a real motion detection controls (not like the wii's half good shovelware) whith real 3 dimentional position readings (like gps, a very old technology now!).

both M$ and Sony should acknowledge that Nintendo has beaten the crap out of em with basically a N64 with motion controls !!!! how stupid is that?

and Nintendo should also acknowledge that even with max sales, without the support of hardcore gamers they are not worth $hit.

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[QUOTE="fat_rob"]Why are we already talking about next gen consoles...it feels like the 360, PS3, and Wii JUST came out...I'll give up video games forever if they companies release new consoles within the next 3 yearsBrainkiller05

On the bright side you're going to save a bunch of money.

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#21 AnnoyedDragon

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If they continue the trend of this generation then the consoles GPU will be one generation behind PC at launch. The Geforce 8 series came out around the PS3s launch, the PS3 being based around the Geforce 7 series.

PS1 - Ram: 2mb Vram: 1mb
PS2 - Ram: 32mb Vram: 4mb
PS3 - Ram: 256mb Vram: 256mb

I wouldn't have believed it but that's what the Wiki says, console memory hasn't half ballooned this gen. I expect console memory will be between 512/512 to 1gb/1gb next gen as 2gb/2gb would be over kill for consoles, assuming this gens hardware is not just a one off. As others have said they may look to the Wii next gen and produce a cheaper system, which will be a real kick in the face to any PC gamers hoping consoles will up the minimum for cross platform games next gen.

CPU wise who knows, it is an area consoles don't look to PC hardware for.

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#22 shaggygrosser

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The next gen will have twelvity trillahertz of harddrive.

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#23 -Mad_Rhetoric-

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If they continue the trend of this generation then the consoles GPU will be one generation behind PC at launch. The Geforce 8 series came out around the PS3s launch, the PS3 being based around the Geforce 7 series.
PS1 - Ram: 2mb Vram: 1mb
PS2 - Ram: 32mb Vram: 4mb
PS3 - Ram: 256mb Vram: 256mb
I wouldn't have believed it but that's what the Wiki says, console memory hasn't half ballooned this gen. I expect console memory will be between 512/512 to 1gb/1gb next gen as 2gb/2gb would be over kill for consoles, assuming this gens hardware is not just a one off. As others have said they may look to the Wii next gen and produce a cheaper system, which will be a real kick in the face to any PC gamers hoping consoles will up the minimum for cross platform games next gen.
CPU wise who knows, it is an area consoles don't look to PC hardware for.
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ding ding ding they get 4 times more powerful each gen

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#24 AnnoyedDragon

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ding ding ding they get 4 times more powerful each gen-Mad_Rhetoric-

Well the memory certainly hasn't been following that trend, it is more about what is available to them than a guaranteed 4x performance increase.

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