What they don't want you to know about Halo.

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[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"] Wooooot? Are you high? THese are things that are largely regarded and accepted within the community, don't BS me and make it seem like you've never heard or witnessed these complaints.. Unless you don't play Halo 3 much. These aren't 1 persons obscure opinion that noone else understands, MANY people agree here, mostly the people that spend MORE time playing Halo 3 rather then less.NubTub_of_Win

No, those are things fabricated by haters like you, and nowhere near representative of the gaming community at large. Here you are trying to misrepresent your case, and all you're really doing is showing how much of a hater you really are. You can keep saying "this is all fact" as much as you like, but in the end you have proven nothing and only demonstrated your bias.

So you really had no legitimate response, and just making an empty blanket statement is the best you could come up with? If your argument had any merit at all, you could have come up with a comprehensive counter point. But we can all see why you couldn't ;)

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] What about Halo Reach's beta? That had jetpacks, sprint etc. And with the exception of Armour Lock (which has now been fixed apparently) the general consensus was that it was balanced. And your point about weapons is irrelevant. You can use any weapon effectively if you use it enough. e.g. people with the sniper on The Pit.siddhu33

Like I said before, could I have your gamertag?

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] What about Halo Reach's beta? That had jetpacks, sprint etc. And with the exception of Armour Lock (which has now been fixed apparently) the general consensus was that it was balanced. And your point about weapons is irrelevant. You can use any weapon effectively if you use it enough. e.g. people with the sniper on The Pit.siddhu33

Like I said before, could I have your gamertag?

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

No, those are things fabricated by haters like you, and nowhere near representative of the gaming community at large. Here you are trying to misrepresent your case, and all you're really doing is showing how much of a hater you really are. You can keep saying "this is all fact" as much as you like, but in the end you have proven nothing and only demonstrated your bias.

AdobeArtist

So you really had no legitimate response, and just making an empty blanket statement is the best you could come up with? If your argument had any merit at all, you could have come up with a comprehensive counter point. But we can all see why you couldn't ;)

CoD4 copied it's maps from the campaign, besides, your personal experiences do not reflect the quality of the game or franchise. Mythomniac

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[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"] Yaya.NubTub_of_Win

So you really had no legitimate response, and just making an empty blanket statement is the best you could come up with? If your argument had any merit at all, you could have come up with a comprehensive counter point. But we can all see why you couldn't ;)

Now you know how we feel :cry:

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[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]Can't hate on reach I haven't played it. I'll be buying it :D These are the problems I had with Halo 3 my first ever Halo. ALways played by myself and made it to 40 something in lone wolf and 40 MLG always going in by myself. I'm no pro but I did get sucked in, it's a great game, but it does have probs.

NubTub_of_Win

Like I said before, could I have your gamertag?

Not really, just to make sure that you can back up what you say (A very important Life-Skill, actually).

[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]Can't hate on reach I haven't played it. I'll be buying it :D These are the problems I had with Halo 3 my first ever Halo. ALways played by myself and made it to 40 something in lone wolf and 40 MLG always going in by myself. I'm no pro but I did get sucked in, it's a great game, but it does have probs.

NubTub_of_Win

Like I said before, could I have your gamertag?

[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]Can't hate on reach I haven't played it. I'll be buying it :D These are the problems I had with Halo 3 my first ever Halo. ALways played by myself and made it to 40 something in lone wolf and 40 MLG always going in by myself. I'm no pro but I did get sucked in, it's a great game, but it does have probs.

NubTub_of_Win

Like I said before, could I have your gamertag?

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

So you really had no legitimate response, and just making an empty blanket statement is the best you could come up with? If your argument had any merit at all, you could have come up with a comprehensive counter point. But we can all see why you couldn't ;)

Ross_the_Boss6

Now you know how we feel :cry:

:lol::lol::lol:

Talk about hammering the nail in your own coffin (NubTub_of_Win) :)

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]I do like it, I like MW2 to, have over 10 days playtime, and if I critisize the bad maps, or the OP killstreaks System Wars give me love and everyone wants to be my friend, but when I fairly critisize Halo everyone hates me :(NubTub_of_Win

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]I do like it, I like MW2 to, have over 10 days playtime, and if I critisize the bad maps, or the OP killstreaks System Wars give me love and everyone wants to be my friend, but when I fairly critisize Halo everyone hates me :(NubTub_of_Win

Yes, you do.

Also, like I said before, every game has a fanbase.

Try and make a thread saying how bad MGS is, and come back to us.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]What? Do I have to show evidence with the MW2 claims? No right? Why is that? BECAUSE IT'S OBVIOUS! Halo fans are the most close minded defensive fanbase ever... NubTub_of_Win

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]What? Do I have to show evidence with the MW2 claims? No right? Why is that? BECAUSE IT'S OBVIOUS! Halo fans are the most close minded defensive fanbase ever... NubTub_of_Win

As it shows that you have PLAYED THE GAME?

Oh my god, seriously?

I give up. If you can give a gamertag, then that's fine. If not, then we can't take you seriously, especially looking at your posting history and level.

It was nice having the GT police around now move along, it's starting to derail this thread and is getting annoying...

It was nice having the GT police around now move along, it's starting to derail this thread and is getting annoying...

NubTub_of_Win

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It was nice having the GT police around now move along, it's starting to derail this thread and is getting annoying...

Ravensmash

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]

It was nice having the GT police around now move along, it's starting to derail this thread and is getting annoying...

NubTub_of_Win

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]

It was nice having the GT police around now move along, it's starting to derail this thread and is getting annoying...

NubTub_of_Win

Because low level people on System Wars only comment on games they've actually played. You say it so it must be true.

That was sarcasm by the way. Other haters have done what you're trying to do. Many have failed as soon as the gamertag test comes up.

Gamertag or you never even touched the game.

PS_John... is that you?

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] We just want to see you back up your statement of experience... Too many people in SW make personal claims which are baseless/based on what they've heard elsewhere. We can play Halo too.VoodooHak

Because low level people on System Wars only comment on games they've actually played. You say it so it must be true.

That was sarcasm by the way. Other haters have done what you're trying to do. Many have failed as soon as the gamertag test comes up.

Gamertag or you never even touched the game.

PS_John... is that you?

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"] 10+10=20 or do you need my Steam ID for that to be true? How about to read what I post and judge from there, if you believe I'm making stuff up just ignore or call me out, or report me or something... It's pretty damn obvious I've played the games. I'm starting to believe you people only played the SP and that's why you seem lost in all this.NubTub_of_Win

Because low level people on System Wars only comment on games they've actually played. You say it so it must be true.

That was sarcasm by the way. Other haters have done what you're trying to do. Many have failed as soon as the gamertag test comes up.

Gamertag or you never even touched the game.

PS_John... is that you?

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]

I made this thread exactly because of people like you who think Halo is above any of these other shooters when in reality it's not, not even by a little bit.

NubTub_of_Win

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

Because low level people on System Wars only comment on games they've actually played. You say it so it must be true.

That was sarcasm by the way. Other haters have done what you're trying to do. Many have failed as soon as the gamertag test comes up.

Gamertag or you never even touched the game.

PS_John... is that you?

Ravensmash

You've never played Halo before.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"] Ya I just spent hours studying vids and pics and reading up on it for the soul purpose of trolling SW with a low level account to bash Halo. WHY DIDN'T I LEVEL UP SO MORE!... Cereal peeps... Kind of freaky how defensive you Halo fanboys are.NubTub_of_Win

You've never played Halo before.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"] Ya I just spent hours studying vids and pics and reading up on it for the soul purpose of trolling SW with a low level account to bash Halo. WHY DIDN'T I LEVEL UP SO MORE!... Cereal peeps... Kind of freaky how defensive you Halo fanboys are.NubTub_of_Win

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You've never played Halo before.

NubTub_of_Win

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"] 10+10=20 or do you need my Steam ID for that to be true? How about to read what I post and judge from there, if you believe I'm making stuff up just ignore or call me out, or report me or something... It's pretty damn obvious I've played the games. I'm starting to believe you people only played the SP and that's why you seem lost in all this.NubTub_of_Win

Because low level people on System Wars only comment on games they've actually played. You say it so it must be true.

That was sarcasm by the way. Other haters have done what you're trying to do. Many have failed as soon as the gamertag test comes up.

Gamertag or you never even touched the game.

PS_John... is that you?

You just described a good chunk of the haters that create alt accounts just to bash a game or a platform. The lengths that people will go to to bash a game they've never played is amazing. Are you one of those people that we should be amazed by? It certainly wouldn't be the first time. PS_John is a good example..

And I don't even play Halo that much. Hmmm... how can you know that? Well, guess what, you can check out my gamertag.

The point is... you make claims, the burden of proof is on you show that you're speaking from first hand experience.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Kind of funny how you refuse to even give us your gamertag.Ravensmash

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

Because low level people on System Wars only comment on games they've actually played. You say it so it must be true.

That was sarcasm by the way. Other haters have done what you're trying to do. Many have failed as soon as the gamertag test comes up.

Gamertag or you never even touched the game.

PS_John... is that you?

VoodooHak

You just described a good chunk of the haters that create alt accounts just to bash a game or a platform. The lengths that people will go to to bash a game they've never played is amazing. Are you one of those people that we should be amazed by? It certainly wouldn't be the first time. PS_John is a good example..

And I don't even play Halo that much. Hmmm... how can you know that? Well, guess what, you can check out my gamertag.

The point is... you make claims, the burden of proof is on you show that you're speaking from first hand experience.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]I find it freaky strange how you guys won't shut up about it. You ain't getting it either so I suggest you stop derailing this thread. I freakin even know the callouts for most of the maps...

NubTub_of_Win

I think Halo is a fun balanced MP FPS, Imo the SP is pretty mediocre, I do give it props for the coop aspect. However Halo is treated as God's gift to gaming by 360 fans and in reality it's no better then Cod's, KZ's, Socom's, TF2's, Battlefields etc etc. It really isn't.

Major Problems with Halo.

1. Horrible Level/Map design. Most maps in Halo just plain suck, Bungie really isn't skilled in this department, KZ2 has glorious maps, Cod4 has amazing maps, Halo does not. Most of them suck and the community reflects this when it comes to vetoing, most people dig The Pit, Guardian and Narrows and that's pretty much it.

2. Horrible Guns. Halo's weapons are soooo bad. The BR owns, one of the best guns on consoles for MP FPS, but everything else sucks, and power weapons don't count, they exist to spawn be used and thrown away. Halo has a major problem with having various good weapons that people like to use, many other games do this MUCH better, where people like using many guns which are all balanced. Even the much hated MW2 has tons of guns that people use as their main gun.

3. Locked Out Playlists. They slow and steadily have thrown out payed map packs that have in turned made them lock out playlists that were originally available to Halo 3 owners. Today it's ridiculous the small amount of playlists you can play without having to give in to being nickle and dimed. Create NEW playlists bungie, don't screw over your existing customers...

4. Buggy Netcode. Sometimes it feels like it takes 10 BR shots to the face to kill someone, and sometimes you feel like you got 1 shoted by the BR online... Even with full green bars...

5. Drop Outs and an Awful Community. Someone drops fomr your match and your screwed, noone will replace them, you simply screwed. Not sure if it's worse losing a player or being stuck with a pre tween MLG screaching pro...

NubTub_of_Win

2. No more BR in Reach, so other guns are actually useful.

3. You can still play a lot of different playlists in halo 3 without all of the maps.

4. Netcode is great, get a better connection.

5. If you leave games too many times you will not be able to play online for like 15 minutesthis will help stop people leaving all the time.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]I find it freaky strange how you guys won't shut up about it. You ain't getting it either so I suggest you stop derailing this thread. I freakin even know the callouts for most of the maps...

NubTub_of_Win

It's not derailing at all. It's a fundamental concept in fact-finding and debate.

We want to obtain impartial, independent verification (ie Xbox Live) that you've actuall played the game. If we can verify that, then we know that you're not just a troll and that you're speaking from first hand experience.

Without that proof, you're just asking people to believe you.... just because you said so?

Why are you resisting so hard? You could very very easily shut most people up with just your gamertag. Is that such a bad thing? Of course, it IS a bad thing if you either don't have a gamertag or it shows that you've never played the game.

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]

I think Halo is a fun balanced MP FPS, Imo the SP is pretty mediocre, I do give it props for the coop aspect. However Halo is treated as God's gift to gaming by 360 fans and in reality it's no better then Cod's, KZ's, Socom's, TF2's, Battlefields etc etc. It really isn't.

Major Problems with Halo.

1. Horrible Level/Map design. Most maps in Halo just plain suck, Bungie really isn't skilled in this department, KZ2 has glorious maps, Cod4 has amazing maps, Halo does not. Most of them suck and the community reflects this when it comes to vetoing, most people dig The Pit, Guardian and Narrows and that's pretty much it.

2. Horrible Guns. Halo's weapons are soooo bad. The BR owns, one of the best guns on consoles for MP FPS, but everything else sucks, and power weapons don't count, they exist to spawn be used and thrown away. Halo has a major problem with having various good weapons that people like to use, many other games do this MUCH better, where people like using many guns which are all balanced. Even the much hated MW2 has tons of guns that people use as their main gun.

3. Locked Out Playlists. They slow and steadily have thrown out payed map packs that have in turned made them lock out playlists that were originally available to Halo 3 owners. Today it's ridiculous the small amount of playlists you can play without having to give in to being nickle and dimed. Create NEW playlists bungie, don't screw over your existing customers...

4. Buggy Netcode. Sometimes it feels like it takes 10 BR shots to the face to kill someone, and sometimes you feel like you got 1 shoted by the BR online... Even with full green bars...

5. Drop Outs and an Awful Community. Someone drops fomr your match and your screwed, noone will replace them, you simply screwed. Not sure if it's worse losing a player or being stuck with a pre tween MLG screaching pro...

Person0

2. No more BR in Reach, so other guns are actually useful.

3. You can still play a lot of different playlists in halo 3 without all of the maps.

4. Netcode is great, get a better connection.

5. If you leave games too many times you will not be able to play online for like 15 minutesthis will help stop people leaving all the time.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"] Ya I just spent hours studying vids and pics and reading up on it for the soul purpose of trolling SW with a low level account to bash Halo. WHY DIDN'T I LEVEL UP SO MORE!... Cereal peeps... Kind of freaky how defensive you Halo fanboys are.NubTub_of_Win

You just described a good chunk of the haters that create alt accounts just to bash a game or a platform. The lengths that people will go to to bash a game they've never played is amazing. Are you one of those people that we should be amazed by? It certainly wouldn't be the first time. PS_John is a good example..

And I don't even play Halo that much. Hmmm... how can you know that? Well, guess what, you can check out my gamertag.

The point is... you make claims, the burden of proof is on you show that you're speaking from first hand experience.

Resorting to 'stfu' s now?

Is that all you have left?

The general concensus here is gamertag or you're full of it.

[QUOTE="Person0"]

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]

I think Halo is a fun balanced MP FPS, Imo the SP is pretty mediocre, I do give it props for the coop aspect. However Halo is treated as God's gift to gaming by 360 fans and in reality it's no better then Cod's, KZ's, Socom's, TF2's, Battlefields etc etc. It really isn't.

Major Problems with Halo.

1. Horrible Level/Map design. Most maps in Halo just plain suck, Bungie really isn't skilled in this department, KZ2 has glorious maps, Cod4 has amazing maps, Halo does not. Most of them suck and the community reflects this when it comes to vetoing, most people dig The Pit, Guardian and Narrows and that's pretty much it.

2. Horrible Guns. Halo's weapons are soooo bad. The BR owns, one of the best guns on consoles for MP FPS, but everything else sucks, and power weapons don't count, they exist to spawn be used and thrown away. Halo has a major problem with having various good weapons that people like to use, many other games do this MUCH better, where people like using many guns which are all balanced. Even the much hated MW2 has tons of guns that people use as their main gun.

3. Locked Out Playlists. They slow and steadily have thrown out payed map packs that have in turned made them lock out playlists that were originally available to Halo 3 owners. Today it's ridiculous the small amount of playlists you can play without having to give in to being nickle and dimed. Create NEW playlists bungie, don't screw over your existing customers...

4. Buggy Netcode. Sometimes it feels like it takes 10 BR shots to the face to kill someone, and sometimes you feel like you got 1 shoted by the BR online... Even with full green bars...

5. Drop Outs and an Awful Community. Someone drops fomr your match and your screwed, noone will replace them, you simply screwed. Not sure if it's worse losing a player or being stuck with a pre tween MLG screaching pro...

NubTub_of_Win

2. No more BR in Reach, so other guns are actually useful.

3. You can still play a lot of different playlists in halo 3 without all of the maps.

4. Netcode is great, get a better connection.

5. If you leave games too many times you will not be able to play online for like 15 minutesthis will help stop people leaving all the time.

What they don't want you to know about nubtubfullofwin :

1. He hasn't played Halo

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"][QUOTE="Person0"] They are fixing almost all of that in reach. 1. That is opinion, and with forge world many community made maps will be in matchmaking.

2. No more BR in Reach, so other guns are actually useful.

3. You can still play a lot of different playlists in halo 3 without all of the maps.

4. Netcode is great, get a better connection.

5. If you leave games too many times you will not be able to play online for like 15 minutesthis will help stop people leaving all the time.

Person0

What they don't want you to know about nubtubfullofwin :

1. He hasn't played Halo

2-10-08

[QUOTE="2-10-08"]

What they don't want you to know about nubtubfullofwin :

1. He hasn't played Halo

NubTub_of_Win

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"][QUOTE="2-10-08"]

What they don't want you to know about nubtubfullofwin :

1. He hasn't played Halo

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