What they don't want you to know about Halo.

Ain't that some subjective stuff you posted there in the OP.:P

Awful community? Have you played any other shooter on the consoles? By far, Halo has the better.

no gamertag huh? im thinkin no xbox either

I made this thread exactly because of people like you who think Halo is above any of these other shooters when in reality it's not, not even by a little bit.

NubTub_of_Win

History, awards and game sales seem to completely disagree with you but yea you can post your opinions all you want in these threads. Isn't that cool?!?

Its not maps that halo needs, its enviroments. Maybe take the editor to the next level like far cry 2's. With forgeworld, who needs other maps?

Wanna know why it's balanced? Because it BAREBONES! THe game is really simple, no sprint, no double jump or dodge, no prone, crouch is practically pointless and you really only use 1 gun in the game... No classes or special abilities... THat's why it's balanced... It's not hard to balance a game that's like that, it's hard to balance a game when it has TONS of weapons and abilities and classes etc...NubTub_of_Win

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Go ahead then, show evidence with MW2 claims. Gamertag?Ravensmash

If the OP is NubTuber that used to be around, he admitted not so long ago that he doesnt own a 360. Which would explain why he doesnt want to show his non existant gamertag.

Anyway on topic, i havnt played H3 online in absolutely ages, but i disagree with most of your points, Quitters and Playlist lockouts are valid complaints though.

I think Halo is a fun balanced MP FPS, Imo the SP is pretty mediocre, I do give it props for the coop aspect. However Halo is treated as God's gift to gaming by 360 fans and in reality it's no better then Cod's, KZ's, Socom's, TF2's, Battlefields etc etc. It really isn't.

Major Problems with Halo.

1. Horrible Level/Map design. Most maps in Halo just plain suck, Bungie really isn't skilled in this department, KZ2 has glorious maps, Cod4 has amazing maps, Halo does not. Most of them suck and the community reflects this when it comes to vetoing, most people dig The Pit, Guardian and Narrows and that's pretty much it.

2. Horrible Guns. Halo's weapons are soooo bad. The BR owns, one of the best guns on consoles for MP FPS, but everything else sucks, and power weapons don't count, they exist to spawn be used and thrown away. Halo has a major problem with having various good weapons that people like to use, many other games do this MUCH better, where people like using many guns which are all balanced. Even the much hated MW2 has tons of guns that people use as their main gun.

3. Locked Out Playlists. They slow and steadily have thrown out payed map packs that have in turned made them lock out playlists that were originally available to Halo 3 owners. Today it's ridiculous the small amount of playlists you can play without having to give in to being nickle and dimed. Create NEW playlists bungie, don't screw over your existing customers...

4. Buggy Netcode. Sometimes it feels like it takes 10 BR shots to the face to kill someone, and sometimes you feel like you got 1 shoted by the BR online... Even with full green bars...

5. Drop Outs and an Awful Community. Someone drops fomr your match and your screwed, noone will replace them, you simply screwed. Not sure if it's worse losing a player or being stuck with a pre tween MLG screaching pro...

NubTub_of_Win

The map problem is with Halo 3, not Halo. Halo 1/2 have some of the best maps ever imo (Blood gulch, Sidewinder, Hang em High, Headlong, Lockout, Turf, Zanzibar etc) but Ill agree that Bungie kinda disappointed with maps in Halo 3. Some of the DLC maps were awesome though, such as Ghost Town. And the maps in Reach were pretty awesome, especially the Invasion map and Swordbase.

Buggy netcode? lol Bungie are some of the best when it comes to netcode, I suggest you get a new connection. As for drop outs, thats a problem with a small minority of the community, not the game. In Halo Reach, Bungie will be taking extra meaures to punish quitters. I suggest you just find a good party to play with like I do, it eliminates the possibility of being teamed up with a d-bag.

you gotta love the haters that put so much effort in bringing down the halo series. lawlessx

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]

I think Halo is a fun balanced MP FPS, Imo the SP is pretty mediocre, I do give it props for the coop aspect. However Halo is treated as God's gift to gaming by 360 fans and in reality it's no better then Cod's, KZ's, Socom's, TF2's, Battlefields etc etc. It really isn't.

Major Problems with Halo.

1. Horrible Level/Map design. Most maps in Halo just plain suck, Bungie really isn't skilled in this department, KZ2 has glorious maps, Cod4 has amazing maps, Halo does not. Most of them suck and the community reflects this when it comes to vetoing, most people dig The Pit, Guardian and Narrows and that's pretty much it.

2. Horrible Guns. Halo's weapons are soooo bad. The BR owns, one of the best guns on consoles for MP FPS, but everything else sucks, and power weapons don't count, they exist to spawn be used and thrown away. Halo has a major problem with having various good weapons that people like to use, many other games do this MUCH better, where people like using many guns which are all balanced. Even the much hated MW2 has tons of guns that people use as their main gun.

3. Locked Out Playlists. They slow and steadily have thrown out payed map packs that have in turned made them lock out playlists that were originally available to Halo 3 owners. Today it's ridiculous the small amount of playlists you can play without having to give in to being nickle and dimed. Create NEW playlists bungie, don't screw over your existing customers...

4. Buggy Netcode. Sometimes it feels like it takes 10 BR shots to the face to kill someone, and sometimes you feel like you got 1 shoted by the BR online... Even with full green bars...

5. Drop Outs and an Awful Community. Someone drops fomr your match and your screwed, noone will replace them, you simply screwed. Not sure if it's worse losing a player or being stuck with a pre tween MLG screaching pro...

siddhu33

1. Most shooters have only 2 or 3 really incredible maps anyway, with the rest being only serviceable. The only exception to the rule that I can think of is Halo 2.

2. Most of Halo's guns are balanced. Most people with the BR get hammered up close by the AR or the PR+Spiker. Unlike some, I think that the carbine was a pretty good weapon to still use at mid-range, and can beat out the BR with some skill. Long-Range the sniper and laser take it out easy.

3. Bungie removed DLC restrictions from most playlists ages ago.

4. Get a better connection, Halo 3's netcode is good.

5. And drop-in matchmaking isn't any better. I don't want to join a game, to find out that it is 40-10.

No. 1 is an opinion. Many shooter games have more than 2 or 3 good maps, although most of them exist on PC anyway.

4) Halo 3's netcode is not good. It seems like every 4th match is lagging like hell sometimes, Even with a 25mbps cable speed. The system just makes lousy choices on who is hosting.

5) Why would a drop in match make a difference for social slayer? I understand ranked, but they could at least change it for social slayer.

there was 3 locked playlists last time I played. pretty sure there's 7 and 7 for Social/Ranked.

but whatever you say. MLG and Action Sack, one has a direct equivalent, the other is random games....and the playlist dedicated to the DLC maps? at least that makes sense, and for people who payed for the maps, they get to play them no matter what.;)

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]you gotta love the haters that put so much effort in bringing down the halo series. Locutus_Picard

kz2 has glorious maps?:lol:

kz2 has glorious maps?:lol:

MFDOOM1983

thats bs.

halo 3 has great maps, valhalla, avalaunche, narrows, sandtrap, sandbox if you like forge...

it has great weapons and the most vairety of weapons too. find a similir gun to the needler in any other game. also, dual-wielding.

you still get plenty of playlists...

your connection sucks then. don't have anything else to say

halos community is the lesser of many evils. especially when compared to K2 or MW2...

oh and i love how you won't show your gamertag:lol:

thats bs.

halo 3 has great maps, valhalla, avalaunche, narrows, sandtrap, sandbox if you like forge...

it has great weapons and the most vairety of weapons too. find a similir gun to the needler in any other game. also, dual-wielding.

you still get plenty of playlists...

your connection sucks then. don't have anything else to say

halos community is the lesser of many evils. especially when compared to K2 or MW2...

oh and i love how you won't show your gamertag:lol:

gamedude234

i'm pretty critical of halo also but it's still better than every other thing the tc mentioned as example.

well, maybe not battlefield because i am a pretty big fan of that one.

also putting socom up as an example is just desperation. rainbow 6 and ghost recon ended it's reign before the 360 and ps3 ever even came out.

maybe if it was 2003 - 04 you could include it but short of that socom is a non-entity in the game world these days.

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

thats bs.

halo 3 has great maps, valhalla, avalaunche, narrows, sandtrap, sandbox if you like forge...

it has great weapons and the most vairety of weapons too. find a similir gun to the needler in any other game. also, dual-wielding.

you still get plenty of playlists...

your connection sucks then. don't have anything else to say

halos community is the lesser of many evils. especially when compared to K2 or MW2...

oh and i love how you won't show your gamertag:lol:

NubTub_of_Win

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"][QUOTE="gamedude234"]

thats bs.

halo 3 has great maps, valhalla, avalaunche, narrows, sandtrap, sandbox if you like forge...

it has great weapons and the most vairety of weapons too. find a similir gun to the needler in any other game. also, dual-wielding.

you still get plenty of playlists...

your connection sucks then. don't have anything else to say

halos community is the lesser of many evils. especially when compared to K2 or MW2...

oh and i love how you won't show your gamertag:lol:

devilsoultaker2

i'm pretty critical of halo also but it's still better than every other thing the tc mentioned as example.

well, maybe not battlefield because i am a pretty big fan of that one.

also putting socom up as an example is just desperation. rainbow 6 and ghost recon ended it's reign before the 360 and ps3 ever even came out.

maybe if it was 2003 - 04 you could include it but short of that socom is a non-entity in the game world these days.

Riverwolf007

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

kz2 has glorious maps?:lol:

NubTub_of_Win

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

i'm pretty critical of halo also but it's still better than every other thing the tc mentioned as example.

well, maybe not battlefield because i am a pretty big fan of that one.

also putting socom up as an example is just desperation. rainbow 6 and ghost recon ended it's reign before the 360 and ps3 ever even came out.

maybe if it was 2003 - 04 you could include it but short of that socom is a non-entity in the game world these days.

NubTub_of_Win

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

i'm pretty critical of halo also but it's still better than every other thing the tc mentioned as example.

well, maybe not battlefield because i am a pretty big fan of that one.

also putting socom up as an example is just desperation. rainbow 6 and ghost recon ended it's reign before the 360 and ps3 ever even came out.

maybe if it was 2003 - 04 you could include it but short of that socom is a non-entity in the game world these days.

NubTub_of_Win

AHAHAHAHHAHA, gamertag or it didn't happen

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

i'm pretty critical of halo also but it's still better than every other thing the tc mentioned as example.

well, maybe not battlefield because i am a pretty big fan of that one.

also putting socom up as an example is just desperation. rainbow 6 and ghost recon ended it's reign before the 360 and ps3 ever even came out.

maybe if it was 2003 - 04 you could include it but short of that socom is a non-entity in the game world these days.

hyperjayson

AHAHAHAHHAHA, gamertag or it didn't happen

He can't because he doesn't have a 360.

[QUOTE="Casboof"]

[QUOTE="hyperjayson"]

AHAHAHAHHAHA, gamertag or it didn't happen

NubTub_of_Win

He can't because he doesn't have a 360.

[QUOTE="Casboof"]

[QUOTE="hyperjayson"]

AHAHAHAHHAHA, gamertag or it didn't happen

NubTub_of_Win

He can't because he doesn't have a 360.

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]I don't give my GT to strangers. let me prepare for some major lols. Are you 2 saying Gears has good MP? :lol:NubTub_of_Win

oh please you don't even own a 360

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]I don't give my GT to strangers. let me prepare for some major lols. Are you 2 saying Gears has good MP? :lol:NubTub_of_Win

Im really surprised that this thread is still going. Halo is a solid series no need to bash it the scores and sales speaks for itself ;)

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

i'm pretty critical of halo also but it's still better than every other thing the tc mentioned as example.

well, maybe not battlefield because i am a pretty big fan of that one.

also putting socom up as an example is just desperation. rainbow 6 and ghost recon ended it's reign before the 360 and ps3 ever even came out.

maybe if it was 2003 - 04 you could include it but short of that socom is a non-entity in the game world these days.

NubTub_of_Win

Gears was horrible online,i don't know how some one can get a game to lag so much,with only 8 players on a game,come on Resistance supported 40 on huge stages and worked like a dream,Warhawk 32 with airplanes,tanks,buggys and huges stages as well,Gears was just horrible it was a host advantage shotgun galore all the time,people actually loved the game because of the graphics.

[QUOTE="Casboof"]

[QUOTE="hyperjayson"]

AHAHAHAHHAHA, gamertag or it didn't happen

NubTub_of_Win

He can't because he doesn't have a 360.

ok, internet tough guy, just to prove to you how easy it is, my gamertag is stubbornthrower my psn is sgt.sam-ryan , see how easy that is?

gears 2 does have good mp, whats wrong with it?, incase you live in a rock the match making has been patched and finds you a match under a minute, and the gameplay is awesome, which is why its more played than socom

I think Halo is a fun balanced MP FPS, Imo the SP is pretty mediocre, I do give it props for the coop aspect. However Halo is treated as God's gift to gaming by 360 fans and in reality it's no better then Cod's, KZ's, Socom's, TF2's, Battlefields etc etc. It really isn't.

Major Problems with Halo.

1. Horrible Level/Map design. Most maps in Halo just plain suck, Bungie really isn't skilled in this department, KZ2 has glorious maps, Cod4 has amazing maps, Halo does not. Most of them suck and the community reflects this when it comes to vetoing, most people dig The Pit, Guardian and Narrows and that's pretty much it.

2. Horrible Guns. Halo's weapons are soooo bad. The BR owns, one of the best guns on consoles for MP FPS, but everything else sucks, and power weapons don't count, they exist to spawn be used and thrown away. Halo has a major problem with having various good weapons that people like to use, many other games do this MUCH better, where people like using many guns which are all balanced. Even the much hated MW2 has tons of guns that people use as their main gun.

3. Locked Out Playlists. They slow and steadily have thrown out payed map packs that have in turned made them lock out playlists that were originally available to Halo 3 owners. Today it's ridiculous the small amount of playlists you can play without having to give in to being nickle and dimed. Create NEW playlists bungie, don't screw over your existing customers...

4. Buggy Netcode. Sometimes it feels like it takes 10 BR shots to the face to kill someone, and sometimes you feel like you got 1 shoted by the BR online... Even with full green bars...

5. Drop Outs and an Awful Community. Someone drops fomr your match and your screwed, noone will replace them, you simply screwed. Not sure if it's worse losing a player or being stuck with a pre tween MLG screaching pro...

NubTub_of_Win

1 -Disagree.

2 - Disagree.

3 - You could be right, but I'm not sure what you're saying. I buy all the map packs though, so I'm not sure if would effect me. Edit: I hope you aren't complaining about the playlists like "Mythic Slayer"? I can't think of any game types that are locked to DLC.

4 - No idea what you're talking about here. I'm Australian, so my latency is far lower than most people I play, yet I only find 'funny' stuff happening up around 45-50 mark, & it's usually being killed just as I get around a wall. It's far worse in any other shooter I play online.

5 - In ranked? What game, that isn't round based (like Gears), allows you to join a ranked match after the match has started? You're saying they should allow players to join ranked matches just as the side they join is about to lose? That would be stupid, you'd lose a rank without being able to play. Dropouts happen in all games.

You have one possibly valid argument.

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]

I think Halo is a fun balanced MP FPS, Imo the SP is pretty mediocre, I do give it props for the coop aspect. However Halo is treated as God's gift to gaming by 360 fans and in reality it's no better then Cod's, KZ's, Socom's, TF2's, Battlefields etc etc. It really isn't.

Major Problems with Halo.

1. Horrible Level/Map design. Most maps in Halo just plain suck, Bungie really isn't skilled in this department, KZ2 has glorious maps, Cod4 has amazing maps, Halo does not. Most of them suck and the community reflects this when it comes to vetoing, most people dig The Pit, Guardian and Narrows and that's pretty much it.

2. Horrible Guns. Halo's weapons are soooo bad. The BR owns, one of the best guns on consoles for MP FPS, but everything else sucks, and power weapons don't count, they exist to spawn be used and thrown away. Halo has a major problem with having various good weapons that people like to use, many other games do this MUCH better, where people like using many guns which are all balanced. Even the much hated MW2 has tons of guns that people use as their main gun.

3. Locked Out Playlists. They slow and steadily have thrown out payed map packs that have in turned made them lock out playlists that were originally available to Halo 3 owners. Today it's ridiculous the small amount of playlists you can play without having to give in to being nickle and dimed. Create NEW playlists bungie, don't screw over your existing customers...

4. Buggy Netcode. Sometimes it feels like it takes 10 BR shots to the face to kill someone, and sometimes you feel like you got 1 shoted by the BR online... Even with full green bars...

5. Drop Outs and an Awful Community. Someone drops fomr your match and your screwed, noone will replace them, you simply screwed. Not sure if it's worse losing a player or being stuck with a pre tween MLG screaching pro...

Twin-Blade

1 -Disagree.

2 - Disagree.

3 - You could be right, but I'm not sure what you're saying. I buy all the map packs though, so I'm not sure if would effect me.

4 - No idea what you're talking about here. I'm Australian, so my latency is far lower than most people I play, yet I only find 'funny' stuff happening up around 45-50 mark, & it's usually being killed just as I get around a wall. It's far worse in any other shooter I play online. Edit: I hope you aren't complaining about the playlists like "Mythic Slayer"? I can't think of any game types that are locked to DLC.

5 - In ranked? What game, that isn't round based (like Gears), allows you to join a ranked match after the match has started? You're saying they should allow players to join ranked matches just as the side they join is about to lose? That would be stupid, you'd lose a rank without being able to play. Dropouts happen in all games.

You have one possibly valid argument.

nahh, they patched out the playlists

[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

Reach must be getting fanboys riled up.

Good....

NubTub_of_Win

I agree about the maps. Halo needs to bring back sidewinder. Then maybe I'd buy and xbox.Acemaster27

Sidewinder is in Halo 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56Qldc0o8uk

Well, it's a remake.

[QUOTE="Acemaster27"]I agree about the maps. Halo needs to bring back sidewinder. Then maybe I'd buy and xbox.siddhu33

Sidewinder is in Halo 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56Qldc0o8uk

Well, it's a remake.

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

thats bs.

halo 3 has great maps, valhalla, avalaunche, narrows, sandtrap, sandbox if you like forge...

it has great weapons and the most vairety of weapons too. find a similir gun to the needler in any other game. also, dual-wielding.

you still get plenty of playlists...

your connection sucks then. don't have anything else to say

halos community is the lesser of many evils. especially when compared to K2 or MW2...

oh and i love how you won't show your gamertag:lol:

NubTub_of_Win

I think Halo is a fun balanced MP FPS, Imo the SP is pretty mediocre, I do give it props for the coop aspect. However Halo is treated as God's gift to gaming by 360 fans and in reality it's no better then Cod's, KZ's, Socom's, TF2's, Battlefields etc etc. It really isn't.

Major Problems with Halo.

1. Horrible Level/Map design. Most maps in Halo just plain suck, Bungie really isn't skilled in this department, KZ2 has glorious maps, Cod4 has amazing maps, Halo does not. Most of them suck and the community reflects this when it comes to vetoing, most people dig The Pit, Guardian and Narrows and that's pretty much it.

2. Horrible Guns. Halo's weapons are soooo bad. The BR owns, one of the best guns on consoles for MP FPS, but everything else sucks, and power weapons don't count, they exist to spawn be used and thrown away. Halo has a major problem with having various good weapons that people like to use, many other games do this MUCH better, where people like using many guns which are all balanced. Even the much hated MW2 has tons of guns that people use as their main gun.

3. Locked Out Playlists. They slow and steadily have thrown out payed map packs that have in turned made them lock out playlists that were originally available to Halo 3 owners. Today it's ridiculous the small amount of playlists you can play without having to give in to being nickle and dimed. Create NEW playlists bungie, don't screw over your existing customers...

4. Buggy Netcode. Sometimes it feels like it takes 10 BR shots to the face to kill someone, and sometimes you feel like you got 1 shoted by the BR online... Even with full green bars...

5. Drop Outs and an Awful Community. Someone drops fomr your match and your screwed, noone will replace them, you simply screwed. Not sure if it's worse losing a player or being stuck with a pre tween MLG screaching pro...

NubTub_of_Win