What upcoming game do you want to be good, but fear it won't be? *56k*

For me, it's Damnation...

And Rise of the Argonauts...

2 games with a ton of potential, but they're being published by Codemasters. :( The upside is that they'll drop in price super quick.

There is a MMO story by R.A. Salvatore author of Drizzt Do'Urden and Art director is Todd McFarlane (Spawn).

I LOVE the Drizzt books and McFarlane's art style but so hard to make a good MMO then can go against WoW. I hope that it can turn out well.

Argonauts has a great setting, and it seems to be doing everything right.

I've been following it since it was first announced, so I really hope it does well.

Argonauts has a great setting, and it seems to be doing everything right.

I've been following it since it was first announced, so I really hope it does well.

agentfred

What bothers me even more than the publisher is the developers past. Wasn't their last game Desperate Housewives?

The Conduit. CleanPlayer

[QUOTE="agentfred"]

Argonauts has a great setting, and it seems to be doing everything right.

I've been following it since it was first announced, so I really hope it does well.

BioShockOwnz

What bothers me even more than the publisher is the developers past. Wasn't their last game Desperate Housewives?

[QUOTE="agentfred"]

Argonauts has a great setting, and it seems to be doing everything right.

I've been following it since it was first announced, so I really hope it does well.

BioShockOwnz

What bothers me even more than the publisher is the developers past. Wasn't their last game Desperate Housewives?

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="agentfred"]

Argonauts has a great setting, and it seems to be doing everything right.

I've been following it since it was first announced, so I really hope it does well.

Cherokee_Jack

What bothers me even more than the publisher is the developers past. Wasn't their last game Desperate Housewives?

• Heavy Rain
• Infamous
• Bionic Commando
• Prototype
• Alpha Protocal
• Chronicles of Riddick bla bla bla
• Bayonetta
• Dark Void
• MadWorld

Interested , but they worry me ^^^

Games I know will be great -

• 50 cent blood on the sand
• Killzone 2
• Eat Lead The Return of Matt Hazzard
• Duke Nukem Forever
• EyePet

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

What bothers me even more than the publisher is the developers past. Wasn't their last game Desperate Housewives?

naval

I meant that not many people have heard of them. Which is true, because I've never heard them mentioned before now. Maybe they're good games, I don't know; but even if they can make good RTS games, it doesn't necessarily mean they can make good action games.

[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] Deperate Housewives and three mediocre RTS games no one has heard of. Not a good sign.Cherokee_Jack

I meant that not many people have heard of them. Which is true, because I've never heard them mentioned before now. Maybe they're good games, I don't know; but even if they can make good RTS games, it doesn't necessarily mean they can make good action games.

RTS dev doing action-rpg= guaranteed fail in 99% of casesAdrianWerner

• Heavy Rain
• Infamous
• Bionic Commando
• Prototype
• Alpha Protocal
• Chronicles of Riddick bla bla bla
• Bayonetta
• Dark Void
• MadWorld

Interested , but they worry me ^^^

Games I know will be great -

• 50 cent blood on the sand
• Killzone 2
• Eat Lead The Return of Matt Hazzard
• Duke Nukem Forever
• EyePet

Nike_Air

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, WHOA

WHAT?!

• Heavy Rain
• Infamous
• Bionic Commando
• Prototype
• Alpha Protocal
• Chronicles of Riddick bla bla bla
• Bayonetta
• Dark Void
• MadWorld

Interested , but they worry me ^^^

Games I know will be great -

• 50 cent blood on the sand
• Killzone 2
• Eat Lead The Return of Matt Hazzard
• Duke Nukem Forever
• EyePet

Nike_Air

So, is this last list a joke, or are you being serious? I can't tell.

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

• Heavy Rain
• Infamous
• Bionic Commando
• Prototype
• Alpha Protocal
• Chronicles of Riddick bla bla bla
• Bayonetta
• Dark Void
• MadWorld

Interested , but they worry me ^^^

Games I know will be great -

• 50 cent blood on the sand
• Killzone 2
• Eat Lead The Return of Matt Hazzard
• Duke Nukem Forever
• EyePet

DragonfireXZ95

So, is this last list a joke, or are you being serious? I can't tell.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]RTS dev doing action-rpg= guaranteed fail in 99% of casesCherokee_Jack

Nox

Titan Quest

Dungeon Siege

Sacred

Loki

Silverfall

Invistus

Two Worlds

it's not that those are bad, they aren't, but they always stray more towards the average side, never transcending into greatness. I think the problem is that action-RTS is a bit too similiar to RTS on the surface and that blinds the devs, this resulting in games ending up as simplified RTSes at heart, without capitalizing on RPG genre strenghts

it's not that those are bad, they aren't, but they always stray more towards the average side, never transcending into greatness. I think the problem is that action-RTS is a bit too similiar to RTS on the surface and that blinds the devs, this resulting in games ending up as simplified RTSes at heart, without capitalizing on RPG genre strenghts.AdrianWerner

I see.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]RTS dev doing action-rpg= guaranteed fail in 99% of casesAdrianWerner

Nox

Titan Quest

Dungeon Siege

Sacred

Loki

Silverfall

Invistus

Two Worlds

it's not that those are bad, they aren't, but they always stray more towards the average side, never transcending into greatness. I think the problem is that action-RTS is a bit too similiar to RTS on the surface and that blinds the devs, this resulting in games ending up as simplified RTSes at heart, without capitalizing on RPG genre strenghts

While I didn't liked Dungeon Siege, it did got pretty good scores ... also, for games like Titan Quest I found it to be better than the dev rts Soulstorm secondly I don't understand the part where you say games like titan's quest, sacred are rts at heart ?? what's common b/w titan quest and a rts ?naval

And yeah they are very RTSish, because you click for every attack it might be a bit obscured, but look at Dungeon Siege, that played pretty much like a simple RTS and the only diffrence between it and TQ or Sacred is that you don't have to click for every attack.

In reality all those games are about stats-based combat, which is well...what every RPG does, after all Dungeons and Dragons did evolve out of Chainmail, which was a tabletop wargame, but that;s just the RPG combat that works like in strategy game , what makesRPGs truly diffrent is heavy roleplaying elements, which hack and slash RPGs unfortunately lack

Borderlands, I've been hyped since the teaser trailer, but, I'm worried it might be awful.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

• Heavy Rain
• Infamous
• Bionic Commando
• Prototype
• Alpha Protocal
• Chronicles of Riddick bla bla bla
• Bayonetta
• Dark Void
• MadWorld

Interested , but they worry me ^^^

Games I know will be great -

• 50 cent blood on the sand
• Killzone 2
• Eat Lead The Return of Matt Hazzard
• Duke Nukem Forever
• EyePet

Cherokee_Jack

So, is this last list a joke, or are you being serious? I can't tell.

Compare Dungeon Siege to Totan Anihilation or Space Siege to SupCom And yeah Soulstorm was mediocre, but Iron Lore was composed of people from Ensemble studios. AdrianWerner

And yeah Soulstorm was mediocre, but Iron Lore was composed of people from Ensemble studios. AdrianWerner

And yeah they are very RTSish, because you click for every attack it might be a bit obscured, but look at Dungeon Siege, that played pretty much like a simple RTS and the only diffrence between it and TQ or Sacred is that you don't have to click for every attack. In reality all those games are about stats-based combat, which is well...what every RPG does, after all Dungeons and Dragons did evolve out of Chainmail, which was a tabletop wargame, but that;s just the RPG combat that works like in strategy game , what makesRPGs truly diffrent is heavy roleplaying elements, which hack and slash RPGs unfortunately lackAdrianWerner

Just taking the example of Sacred or Titan's Quest, it didn't really had any strategy elements , very little tactics etc. I don't reeally see these games as RTS but more like different conceppt of rpg where character levelling and gears are focus

true ... but even without roleplaying elements action RPGs can be pretty enjoyable for many people if made correctly like Diablo 1/2 (made by dev who made RTS before). Too me, the reason these games were not good was simply because they were just poor attempt at making shallow diablo clones without what made Diablo good

Good choices TC, they both look and sound great but yeah, I think deep down we all know they'll turn out rather average. Rise of The Argonauts hasn't been getting the best of reviews (It was realeased in Australia I believe).

Some of my own choices include:

Lord of The Rings Conquest, im not very confident about Panademic being the devs after what happend with Mercenaries 2.

Hei$t, also published by Codemasters.

Heroes Over Europe, I just have a bad feeling and I can't figure out why.

Well here is one review for the game - gamefiend : 9.0 It's a pretty stupid review and I have never heard of the game, so i don't really consider it to be very reliable...

Here is another review , not so positive one : 75

The stunning visuals and sound design offer players nothing short of blanket immersion...... Most narrative-heavy games are lacking in both solid dialogue and voice acting, but even those aspects of the game are well-executed.......Regrettably, Argonauts stumbles in a few major areas. While the weapons are beyond handsome, you'll get precious little enjoyment from wielding them. The battle system is woefully prosaic and you'll tire of watching Jason perform the same finishing move over and over. The pacing is also problematic. After the exciting opening sequence mentioned above, the game kills its momentum by forcing you to perform a series of mind-numbing errands before you can begin your adventure in earnest.PasteMagzine

Demigod - looks great, but I'm affraid it'll be shallow.

Dragon Age: Origins - affraid of dumbing down after the console version announcement.

Anno 1404 - looks incredible, but since Ubisoft bought the dev, I'm affraid of yet another Ubisoft screwup towards PC gamers.

Batman: Arkham Asylum - looks great, but it'll probably be pretty shallow.

That's it for now.

50 Cent is actually going to be marginally good this time. Around a 7. I think he was joking, though.Nike_Air

Hey! I actually want Matt Hazard. It'll bomb, but I loved Dead Head Fred, and this is from the same developer. They have lots of good humor.

Demigod - looks great, but I'm affraid it'll be shallow.

Dragon Age: Origins - affraid of dumbing down after the console version announcement.

Anno 1404 - looks incredible, but since Ubisoft bought the dev, I'm affraid of yet another Ubisoft screwup towards PC gamers.

Batman: Arkham Asylum - looks great, but it'll probably be pretty shallow.

That's it for now.

IgGy621985

The Conduit. CleanPlayer

I agree.

Batman Arkham Asylum.

I'm a huge Batman fan and I really want this game to be good; the problem is, I can't recall a single Batman game that ever did the capred cursader any justice so I'm worried that this will continue that recurring trend

Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days

I know I'll love it, but from recent previews of there being slowdown and with FFCC on DS dropping in framerate for every person that joins in... it isn't a good sign for this game.

Regardless, I'm getting it and I'll love it.