what was the plot of Dark souls? i played it a crapload and have no idea....

well even if there is a plot you need to put in so much work to find out what it is its not worth it. and when i said i was level 70+ let me tell you where i was. you know what big wolf with the massive sword? i tried to beat him like 40 times and couldent do it trying varying tactics. nothing worked. so i moved on and finally got to some sort of place with alot of lava that you can clear out but by then i was just like....you know what? forget this game. i cant even beat an early boss at level 70+ when my friend beat him on his 2nd try at like level 36.

hofuldig

40 times?:lol:

well even if there is a plot you need to put in so much work to find out what it is its not worth it. and when i said i was level 70+ let me tell you where i was. you know what big wolf with the massive sword? i tried to beat him like 40 times and couldent do it trying varying tactics. nothing worked. so i moved on and finally got to some sort of place with alot of lava that you can clear out but by then i was just like....you know what? forget this game. i cant even beat an early boss at level 70+ when my friend beat him on his 2nd try at like level 36.

hofuldig

Ohh okay. This sums everything up. The game doesn;t suck, you just suck at the game. I've done 4 playthroughs and the Sif (the Wolf) has never even killed me, You didn't get far enough into the game to talk to both of the primordial serpents who give you the backstory

Dark Souls gets all this praise yet people dont bring up the low FPS performance issues and the fact that there is barely any story or enjoyable characters in the game.

[QUOTE="hofuldig"]

well even if there is a plot you need to put in so much work to find out what it is its not worth it. and when i said i was level 70+ let me tell you where i was. you know what big wolf with the massive sword? i tried to beat him like 40 times and couldent do it trying varying tactics. nothing worked. so i moved on and finally got to some sort of place with alot of lava that you can clear out but by then i was just like....you know what? forget this game. i cant even beat an early boss at level 70+ when my friend beat him on his 2nd try at like level 36.

mitu123

40 times?:lol:

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="hofuldig"]

well even if there is a plot you need to put in so much work to find out what it is its not worth it. and when i said i was level 70+ let me tell you where i was. you know what big wolf with the massive sword? i tried to beat him like 40 times and couldent do it trying varying tactics. nothing worked. so i moved on and finally got to some sort of place with alot of lava that you can clear out but by then i was just like....you know what? forget this game. i cant even beat an early boss at level 70+ when my friend beat him on his 2nd try at like level 36.

hofuldig

40 times?:lol:

You will get murdered by The Four Kings which is one of the top 5 hard bosses in the game and you face them after the wolf.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="hofuldig"]

well even if there is a plot you need to put in so much work to find out what it is its not worth it. and when i said i was level 70+ let me tell you where i was. you know what big wolf with the massive sword? i tried to beat him like 40 times and couldent do it trying varying tactics. nothing worked. so i moved on and finally got to some sort of place with alot of lava that you can clear out but by then i was just like....you know what? forget this game. i cant even beat an early boss at level 70+ when my friend beat him on his 2nd try at like level 36.

hofuldig

40 times?:lol:

Use a shield with high stability (the higher it is, the less stamin you will lose when he hits you. Hold your shield up and run towards his sides. When he tries to attack roll towards his rear legs. Dual wield a large sword (Claymore, Falchion, Bastard Sword, etc with lightning damage) and hit him ~3 times and roll away after. When he is further away and attacks non stop just stand out of his attack range and spam magic at him.

It really is an easy fight...

Also note I have beaten Dark Souls so I know what it's like.

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]LOL you all talked me out of even bothering with this game. An RPG without a story is just poop.AtariKidX

It have a story but it is very simple.....kill the demons and free the kingdom.it is the same with Diablo games......kill the demons.

You are soooo way off, Diablo does have a story and good one at that. Probably the only one Blizzard has not butchered yet.

[QUOTE="hofuldig"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Are you serious? I beat the wolf on my 1st try at lower levels than that, one of the easier bosses though not as easy as Taurus Demon, Moonlight Butterfly and Pinwheel.

40 times?:lol:

BPoole96

Use a shield with high stability (the higher it is, the less stamin you will lose when he hits you. Hold your shield up and run towards his sides. When he tries to attack roll towards his rear legs. Dual wield a large sword (Claymore, Falchion, Bastard Sword, etc with lightning damage) and hit him ~3 times and roll away after. When he is further away and attacks non stop just stand out of his attack range and spam magic at him.

It really is an easy fight...

Its possible to beat just about any fight in Dark Souls with just a few tries or less if you prepare for it. Most bosses have an exploitable weakness, and the ones that don't are easy enough to hack away at and avoid. I rarely need more then 5 Estus Flasks, and in most cases I get 10 from improving my bonfire anyways.

Its really not that difficult if you are willing to strategize and explore and use anything you can to your advantage, especially if you are at an obviously high level. At level 70 I'd be shocked someone couldn't beat Sif, especially when freaking level 12's have gotten past Sen's Fortress over in Japan.

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]LOL you all talked me out of even bothering with this game. An RPG without a story is just poop.Deevoshun

It have a story but it is very simple.....kill the demons and free the kingdom.it is the same with Diablo games......kill the demons.

You are soooo way off, Diablo does have a story and good one at that. Probably the only one Blizzard has not butchered yet.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="hofuldig"] Im not kidding you. i really tried ALOT of times and never could beat the wolf. i tried heavy weapons light weapons magic shields light armor heavy armor bows noting worked. heck i even had my estus flasks at i think +4 and had 10 of them but i never had enough time to heal. every time i would stop to heal i would either get hit multiple times and die or get hit once and die. The Taurus demon was the first boss right? if so i beat him in like 1 minute flat he was super easy. i did have more trouble with the demon in that small box room with the 2 dogs but i did defeat him. the game is just to hard to be worth playing and most of my other friend who also bought the game (because of hype) agreed it wasnt worth the time.SPYDER0416

Use a shield with high stability (the higher it is, the less stamin you will lose when he hits you. Hold your shield up and run towards his sides. When he tries to attack roll towards his rear legs. Dual wield a large sword (Claymore, Falchion, Bastard Sword, etc with lightning damage) and hit him ~3 times and roll away after. When he is further away and attacks non stop just stand out of his attack range and spam magic at him.

It really is an easy fight...

Its possible to beat just about any fight in Dark Souls with just a few tries or less if you prepare for it. Most bosses have an exploitable weakness, and the ones that don't are easy enough to hack away at and avoid. I rarely need more then 5 Estus Flasks, and in most cases I get 10 from improving my bonfire anyways.

Its really not that difficult if you are willing to strategize and explore and use anything you can to your advantage, especially if you are at an obviously high level. At level 70 I'd be shocked someone couldn't beat Sif, especially when freaking level 12's have gotten past Sen's Fortress over in Japan.

There wasnt one.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="hofuldig"] Im not kidding you. i really tried ALOT of times and never could beat the wolf. i tried heavy weapons light weapons magic shields light armor heavy armor bows noting worked. heck i even had my estus flasks at i think +4 and had 10 of them but i never had enough time to heal. every time i would stop to heal i would either get hit multiple times and die or get hit once and die. The Taurus demon was the first boss right? if so i beat him in like 1 minute flat he was super easy. i did have more trouble with the demon in that small box room with the 2 dogs but i did defeat him. the game is just to hard to be worth playing and most of my other friend who also bought the game (because of hype) agreed it wasnt worth the time.SPYDER0416

Use a shield with high stability (the higher it is, the less stamin you will lose when he hits you. Hold your shield up and run towards his sides. When he tries to attack roll towards his rear legs. Dual wield a large sword (Claymore, Falchion, Bastard Sword, etc with lightning damage) and hit him ~3 times and roll away after. When he is further away and attacks non stop just stand out of his attack range and spam magic at him.

It really is an easy fight...

Its possible to beat just about any fight in Dark Souls with just a few tries or less if you prepare for it. Most bosses have an exploitable weakness, and the ones that don't are easy enough to hack away at and avoid. I rarely need more then 5 Estus Flasks, and in most cases I get 10 from improving my bonfire anyways.

Its really not that difficult if you are willing to strategize and explore and use anything you can to your advantage, especially if you are at an obviously high level. At level 70 I'd be shocked someone couldn't beat Sif, especially when freaking level 12's have gotten past Sen's Fortress over in Japan.

The only Boss fights that are difficult for me at this point are the Four Kings and Ornstein + Smough. Gwyn was kind of tough at first but now I just put on the Honet's Ring, Parrying Dagger in my left hand, Enchant my Great Sword +15, and just reposte him 3-4 times and he's dead

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Use a shield with high stability (the higher it is, the less stamin you will lose when he hits you. Hold your shield up and run towards his sides. When he tries to attack roll towards his rear legs. Dual wield a large sword (Claymore, Falchion, Bastard Sword, etc with lightning damage) and hit him ~3 times and roll away after. When he is further away and attacks non stop just stand out of his attack range and spam magic at him.

It really is an easy fight...

BPoole96

Its possible to beat just about any fight in Dark Souls with just a few tries or less if you prepare for it. Most bosses have an exploitable weakness, and the ones that don't are easy enough to hack away at and avoid. I rarely need more then 5 Estus Flasks, and in most cases I get 10 from improving my bonfire anyways.

Its really not that difficult if you are willing to strategize and explore and use anything you can to your advantage, especially if you are at an obviously high level. At level 70 I'd be shocked someone couldn't beat Sif, especially when freaking level 12's have gotten past Sen's Fortress over in Japan.

The only Boss fights that are difficult for me at this point are the Four Kings and Ornstein + Smough. Gwyn was kind of tough at first but now I just put on the Honet's Ring, Parrying Dagger in my left hand, Enchant my Great Sword +15, and just reposte him 3-4 times and he's dead

Don't die. That seems to be the only story element.

The whole "it makes it more mysterious because there is no story element" is plain retarded.

Don't die. That seems to be the only story element.

The whole "it makes it more mysterious because there is no story element" is plain retarded.

lild1425

However there is a story.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="hofuldig"] Im not kidding you. i really tried ALOT of times and never could beat the wolf. i tried heavy weapons light weapons magic shields light armor heavy armor bows noting worked. heck i even had my estus flasks at i think +4 and had 10 of them but i never had enough time to heal. every time i would stop to heal i would either get hit multiple times and die or get hit once and die. The Taurus demon was the first boss right? if so i beat him in like 1 minute flat he was super easy. i did have more trouble with the demon in that small box room with the 2 dogs but i did defeat him. the game is just to hard to be worth playing and most of my other friend who also bought the game (because of hype) agreed it wasnt worth the time.SPYDER0416

Use a shield with high stability (the higher it is, the less stamin you will lose when he hits you. Hold your shield up and run towards his sides. When he tries to attack roll towards his rear legs. Dual wield a large sword (Claymore, Falchion, Bastard Sword, etc with lightning damage) and hit him ~3 times and roll away after. When he is further away and attacks non stop just stand out of his attack range and spam magic at him.

It really is an easy fight...

Its possible to beat just about any fight in Dark Souls with just a few tries or less if you prepare for it. Most bosses have an exploitable weakness, and the ones that don't are easy enough to hack away at and avoid. I rarely need more then 5 Estus Flasks, and in most cases I get 10 from improving my bonfire anyways.

Its really not that difficult if you are willing to strategize and explore and use anything you can to your advantage, especially if you are at an obviously high level. At level 70 I'd be shocked someone couldn't beat Sif, especially when freaking level 12's have gotten past Sen's Fortress over in Japan.

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Use a shield with high stability (the higher it is, the less stamin you will lose when he hits you. Hold your shield up and run towards his sides. When he tries to attack roll towards his rear legs. Dual wield a large sword (Claymore, Falchion, Bastard Sword, etc with lightning damage) and hit him ~3 times and roll away after. When he is further away and attacks non stop just stand out of his attack range and spam magic at him.

It really is an easy fight...

hofuldig

Its possible to beat just about any fight in Dark Souls with just a few tries or less if you prepare for it. Most bosses have an exploitable weakness, and the ones that don't are easy enough to hack away at and avoid. I rarely need more then 5 Estus Flasks, and in most cases I get 10 from improving my bonfire anyways.

Its really not that difficult if you are willing to strategize and explore and use anything you can to your advantage, especially if you are at an obviously high level. At level 70 I'd be shocked someone couldn't beat Sif, especially when freaking level 12's have gotten past Sen's Fortress over in Japan.

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]LOL you all talked me out of even bothering with this game. An RPG without a story is just poop.Deevoshun

It have a story but it is very simple.....kill the demons and free the kingdom.it is the same with Diablo games......kill the demons.

You are soooo way off, Diablo does have a story and good one at that. Probably the only one Blizzard has not butchered yet.

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Use a shield with high stability (the higher it is, the less stamin you will lose when he hits you. Hold your shield up and run towards his sides. When he tries to attack roll towards his rear legs. Dual wield a large sword (Claymore, Falchion, Bastard Sword, etc with lightning damage) and hit him ~3 times and roll away after. When he is further away and attacks non stop just stand out of his attack range and spam magic at him.

It really is an easy fight...

hofuldig

Its possible to beat just about any fight in Dark Souls with just a few tries or less if you prepare for it. Most bosses have an exploitable weakness, and the ones that don't are easy enough to hack away at and avoid. I rarely need more then 5 Estus Flasks, and in most cases I get 10 from improving my bonfire anyways.

Its really not that difficult if you are willing to strategize and explore and use anything you can to your advantage, especially if you are at an obviously high level. At level 70 I'd be shocked someone couldn't beat Sif, especially when freaking level 12's have gotten past Sen's Fortress over in Japan.

[QUOTE="musalala"]

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] Now I can see doing that. Even if I ended up not liking it, so what. It is so cheap it wouldn't matter. mitu123

Demon souls is actually alot better than Dark souls...YEAH I SAID IT.

[QUOTE="Deevoshun"]

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

It have a story but it is very simple.....kill the demons and free the kingdom.it is the same with Diablo games......kill the demons.

AmazonTreeBoa

You are soooo way off, Diablo does have a story and good one at that. Probably the only one Blizzard has not butchered yet.

Yes it has multiplayer.

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]LOL you all talked me out of even bothering with this game. An RPG without a story is just poop.GD1551

It have a story but it is very simple.....kill the demons and free the kingdom.it is the same with Diablo games......kill the demons.

:s diablo story goes more indepth than that, it's actually about a war between heaven and hell to put it simply.

[QUOTE="Deevoshun"]

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

It have a story but it is very simple.....kill the demons and free the kingdom.it is the same with Diablo games......kill the demons.

AmazonTreeBoa

You are soooo way off, Diablo does have a story and good one at that. Probably the only one Blizzard has not butchered yet.

Yep, but its very specific. You should REALLY find out more about DS before writting it off.

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Use a shield with high stability (the higher it is, the less stamin you will lose when he hits you. Hold your shield up and run towards his sides. When he tries to attack roll towards his rear legs. Dual wield a large sword (Claymore, Falchion, Bastard Sword, etc with lightning damage) and hit him ~3 times and roll away after. When he is further away and attacks non stop just stand out of his attack range and spam magic at him.

It really is an easy fight...

hofuldig

Its possible to beat just about any fight in Dark Souls with just a few tries or less if you prepare for it. Most bosses have an exploitable weakness, and the ones that don't are easy enough to hack away at and avoid. I rarely need more then 5 Estus Flasks, and in most cases I get 10 from improving my bonfire anyways.

Its really not that difficult if you are willing to strategize and explore and use anything you can to your advantage, especially if you are at an obviously high level. At level 70 I'd be shocked someone couldn't beat Sif, especially when freaking level 12's have gotten past Sen's Fortress over in Japan.

I honestly have no idea how you got that far without it shield. Its a core game mechanic afaik...

[QUOTE="hofuldig"][QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Its possible to beat just about any fight in Dark Souls with just a few tries or less if you prepare for it. Most bosses have an exploitable weakness, and the ones that don't are easy enough to hack away at and avoid. I rarely need more then 5 Estus Flasks, and in most cases I get 10 from improving my bonfire anyways.

Its really not that difficult if you are willing to strategize and explore and use anything you can to your advantage, especially if you are at an obviously high level. At level 70 I'd be shocked someone couldn't beat Sif, especially when freaking level 12's have gotten past Sen's Fortress over in Japan.

BlbecekBobecek

I honestly have no idea how you got that far without it shield. Its a core game mechanic afaik...

That's what I said.

If you play like a n00b, you die like a n00b, and clearly that happened.

The beginning:

After the toturoial, Skyrim throws you straight into an overwhelming world, couple of markers on your map and a ton of beauitfull vistas.

- Skyrim may have bugged on me continuisly but I've yet to see the absolute "Do you want this character" screen, unlike Oblivion and the Fallouts, so deciding on my perfect starting character took several replays of the entire intro.-

So we go to Whitefall, get a few quests and look through the personal belongings of everyone.... Very soon, I find myself checking books exclusively for the possibility of quest or a skillpoint, I fastforeward through most conversations as well.

You check your journal, visit one of the nearby dungeons, and emerge victorius, time to check out skills.

Lock Picking/pick pocketing? Extra carry weight is nice, otherwise these trees have very little value, you'll overcome most obstacles, simply by using the respective skills.

Speech? This skill is called "speech" to attract RPG enthusiasts, it's litteral name is "value of everything in relation to you". robably the least used skill in the game. Veterans and newcomers alike neglec this waste of time.

Stealth: Want to be a stealthy character? I suppose that aforementioned thievery-related skills may look more attractive but remember that you will have to endure a lot of glitches, (both good and bad), before your skill is so high that you're invisible, even when crouched in front of an NPC in full day-light.

Spells: Duration and power buffs....

Weapons: Durations and power buffs....

Armor: Mitigation buff and penalty reduction...

So 1 hour after escaping excecution; my dual-wielding, light armour wearing conjuration orc is personally involved with several individuals and their personal agenda. By now, I'm constantly checking my journal, map and inventory to make sure I'm on the right track.

Conclusion: The thrill of improving a perk, the impressive vistas and the urge the craft completely absorbs me; I'm lost in the engrossing universe of Skyrim.

Dark Souls: You're an undead soul, given the chance of making your own mark. There you are, that raven looked cool but what now?

Did a boulder run over you when ascending a flight of stairs? Did you receive a so called "Estus Flask" from a dying person and defeat a large monster boss?

Welcome to firelink Shrine.

A couple of people around..... You're told to ring a bell from two different locations; one far above you and one far below you..... Checking out the immediate area provides a couple of items and a graveyard guarded by fierce undeads....

You die a few times and realize that the morning star you found, is a bludgeoning weapoing, unlike your current axe; suddenly you can actually hurt those skeletons in the graveyard, even if engaging them is a cautious endeavour... Where do we go from here by the way????

10 hours in:

Skyrim keeps throwing lore at me..... My persistance in book reading has taken a certain nature upon itself: I find a book -> read it -> cancel....

I no longer read quests, it's actually easier to just press onwards and consult gamefaqs, when you forget that someone dropped the claw item for this particular quest.

Muppet, (my character), is an Orc.

I'm below level 20 with a build that leans towards Dual Wielding, Destruction and Conjuration.... Between my flame atronach, my companion and my two conjured blades, everything dies fast; I have'nt seen anything that implies that the dificulty curve intends to play tricks on me. I finish all fights by conjuring my, (very much), prolonged flame atronach summoning and the I melee everything to death with the help from my pet and companion.

Quests feel a little like checking off markers on a list now.

Suddenly, I become aware that I have no idea what the main plot is all about.

I'm a dragonborn but everyone seems rather neutral about it... Soon, I realize that everyone fanatically believes in the concept of water under the bridge.

Kill the local annoying alchemy lady and rob her blind? Even if you get caught, you can go back a week later, noone remembers...

Turns out they really meant the thing about choice! Everyone in Skyrim is waiting for me to come and affect their world....

Dark Souls left me near that damn cemetary. So I'm an undead, chosen to challenge the age of fire.

I've searched the area for a few neat items and now I'm told that I need to ring two certain bells, both located in opposite directions: Up and down.

Ignoring that, there's a cemetary next to me.... I methodically work my way through every undead in the graveyard, harvesting my Winged Spear, (along with other things), then I check out my gear......

Creating a new Skyrim character is a rollrcoaster; you can focus on every character aspect, create any ****you desire, as long as you remember that there is no depth to be found.

15 hous into Dark Souls, you may be looking at certain descriptions and wonder where they came from. 15 hours into Skyrim and you're autoskipping almost every single piece of text you see.

It was to become King of the Pirates or at least that's what I'm thinking it was about when I played it.

That Water Snake dude told me what I was destined to be, but I didn't care I just rang bells and ran around killing things.

It was to become King of the Pirates or at least that's what I'm thinking it was about when I played it.

That Water Snake dude told me what I was destined to be, but I didn't care I just rang bells and ran around killing things.

LegatoSkyheart

Theres no story.No narrative what so ever.

The DS fanboys will always try to defend it with "the mystery is better then an actual story bullsh*t ofcourse.Complete nonsense if you ask me.

Great RPGs are mostly for thier amazing and epic storys. DS is mostly know for... its cheepness.

beganoo

That rules out Skyrim then.

You guy, you kill baddy.