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#1 Nerkcon
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We know, they're businesses, and as such, their main goal is to make as much as possible, for the survival of the company and to feed themselves. But that still doesn't mean their old long time fans can't be mad at them. :|

Forgive me if the poll doesn't have the best options as I don't know all betrayals as I was not an informed gamer for that long. And forgive me if there is no poll as sometimes when I make a poll it doesn't show. Was it...

1. When Bethersda made Elder Scrolls 4 more of a console action game, with many broken promises and ruining the lore (for more info:see here). I was not a long time Bethersada fun but it seems the worst thing they did was ruining the lore IE: The king was in good health before he died, the dark elves have bright and loving personalities like everyone else, no legal restrictions on dwarven armor(which is illegal in TES lore).

2. Ion Storm dumbing down and revamping Deus into a typical linear console FPS (which was far below Halo's quality, BTW).

3. Epic who slowed down and returned UT so it could be on consoles? (And ironically, it did bad on all three platforms! :P)

Or was it something else entirely?

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#2 Trinners
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when nintendo released the wii.

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#4 -Grieves-
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when nintendo released the wii.

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Ha Ha ^That.

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#5 TR800
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when nintendo released the wii.

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This pretty much.
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#6 Panther501
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I think when sony decided to part with nintendo and release there own console, that might have been the biggest blow ever.

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#7 leonalabasters
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I think when sony decided to part with nintendo and release there own console, that might have been the biggest blow ever.

Panther501

Nintedo is laughing at sony now.

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[QUOTE="Panther501"]

I think when sony decided to part with nintendo and release there own console, that might have been the biggest blow ever.

leonalabasters

Nintedo is laughing at sony now.

I guess it's their turn after Sony laughing at them for a decade.
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#9 ArisShadows
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I don't like the term betrayal, but Bethesda with their slice at Elder Scroll and the Fallout series.
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#10 leonalabasters
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[QUOTE="leonalabasters"]

[QUOTE="Panther501"]

I think when sony decided to part with nintendo and release there own console, that might have been the biggest blow ever.

supercubedude64

Nintedo is laughing at sony now.

I guess it's their turn after Sony laughing at them for a decade.

Whoever laughs last laughs best

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[QUOTE="supercubedude64"][QUOTE="leonalabasters"]

[QUOTE="Panther501"]

I think when sony decided to part with nintendo and release there own console, that might have been the biggest blow ever.

Nintedo is laughing at sony now.

I guess it's their turn after Sony laughing at them for a decade.

I don't see why. Nintendos consoles have always been succesful. Raking in money, maybe not selling the most, but still profitable. The PS3 ... not so much.
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#12 dommeus
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They did rape deus ex, but I think Bethesda with F3 is probably the worst.

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#13 Nerkcon
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I think when sony decided to part with nintendo and release there own console, that might have been the biggest blow ever.

Panther501
Ummm... Nintendo betrayed them first... >.>
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[QUOTE="supercubedude64"][QUOTE="leonalabasters"]Nintedo is laughing at sony now.

leonalabasters

I guess it's their turn after Sony laughing at them for a decade.

Whoever laughs last laughs best

There are going to be other gens after this one you know.
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#15 SerpentX541
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Nintendo with Nintendo Wii

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#16 leonalabasters
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[QUOTE="leonalabasters"]

[QUOTE="supercubedude64"] I guess it's their turn after Sony laughing at them for a decade.aaronmullan

Whoever laughs last laughs best

There are going to be other gens after this one you know.

Unless you can see into the future your post is pointless.

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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="leonalabasters"]Whoever laughs last laughs best

leonalabasters

There are going to be other gens after this one you know.

Unless you can see into the future your post is pointless.

Same for you. How do you know Nintendo are going to come out on top next gen?
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#18 All_that_is_Man
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when kain through me into the Lake of the Dead.

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#19 leonalabasters
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Who hasn't betrayed Sony this gen?

Square, Rockstar, Capcom, Konami, Activision.... pretyy much every third party that gave PS2 third party exclusives.

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#20 leonalabasters
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[QUOTE="leonalabasters"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] There are going to be other gens after this one you know.aaronmullan

Unless you can see into the future your post is pointless.

Same for you. How do you know Nintendo are going to come out on top next gen?

I know that they came on top this gen, and thus they have had the last laugh. You're the one who brought up the future which is pointless to discuss.

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#21 aaronmullan
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="leonalabasters"]Unless you can see into the future your post is pointless.

leonalabasters

Same for you. How do you know Nintendo are going to come out on top next gen?

I know that they came on top this gen, and thus they have had the last laugh. You're the one who brought up the future which is pointless to discuss.

But the whole "last laugh" doesn't make sense if this isn't going to be the last gen.
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Probably when Ace Combat became a Xbox 360 exclusive. :P
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#24 Tragic_Kingdom7
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I don't like the term betrayal, but Bethesda with their slice at Elder Scroll and the Fallout series.ArisShadows

I don't like the term betraya eitherl because a) it's not correct. Just because one may not like how something turned out doesn't mean they were betrayed b) using the word betrayed makes one sound like he or she has an entitlement complex.

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#25 SerpentX541
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Who hasn't betrayed Sony this gen?

Square, Rockstar, Capcom, Konami, Activision.... pretyy much every third party that gave PS2 third party exclusives.

leonalabasters

How the hell did they betray Sony.....

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#26 aaronmullan
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="leonalabasters"]I know that they came on top this gen, and thus they have had the last laugh. You're the one who brought up the future which is pointless to discuss.

leonalabasters

But the whole "last laugh" doesn't make sense if this isn't going to be the last gen.

The Pitsburg Penguins just won the Stanley cup. They are the 'last' team to win the Stanley Cup.

No, they are the latest team to win it.
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#27 leonalabasters
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[QUOTE="leonalabasters"]

Who hasn't betrayed Sony this gen?

Square, Rockstar, Capcom, Konami, Activision.... pretyy much every third party that gave PS2 third party exclusives.

SerpentX541

How the hell did they betray Sony.....

If the PS3 dominated like the PS2 did, they would have kept games like DMC4, FF, Metal Gear franchise ect. exclusive, but since PS3 is the last place lagger, they went multiplat with their franchises.

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#28 Eddie-Vedder
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When Blizzard made warlocks OP, as a Mage I felt like Blizz had backstabbed me! True story :P

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#30 WasntAvailable
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Betrayal? You mean change of direction you don't like. People like to dramatise everything. It's not as if someone developed a video game that was actually a blank disc and then ran off with all your money.

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#31 aaronmullan
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="leonalabasters"]The Pitsburg Penguins just won the Stanley cup. They are the 'last' team to win the Stanley Cup.

leonalabasters

No, they are the latest team to win it.

Sigh..... Cows living in the past.

I don't even own a PS3 and I'm a cow?
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[QUOTE="SerpentX541"]

[QUOTE="leonalabasters"]

Who hasn't betrayed Sony this gen?

Square, Rockstar, Capcom, Konami, Activision.... pretyy much every third party that gave PS2 third party exclusives.

leonalabasters

How the hell did they betray Sony.....

If the PS3 dominated like the PS2 did, they would have kept games like DMC4, FF, Metal Gear franchise ect. exclusive, but since PS3 is the last place lagger, they went multiplat with their franchises.

Even MGS2 and the GTA games were ported from the dominant PS2 to the Xbox, which was a relative flop. So they still could have gone multiplat if the PS3 were on top anyway.
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#33 leonalabasters
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[QUOTE="leonalabasters"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] No, they are the latest team to win it.aaronmullan

Sigh..... Cows living in the past.

I don't even own a PS3 and I'm a cow?

So why are you defending consoles you dont own?

You're wrong about the word 'last'. The word last is used to imply the latest, most recent, here in the present, without consideration of the future because in that case, nothing would ever be the last, as there would always be something coming after it, which is the loophole you're trying to revolve your argument around.

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I think the only ones that count are series that used to be on one console, then not only does the latest game get on another console, it's exclusive to that console. That sucks IMO. Activison is pretty much about to do this with Sony.

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#35 Tragic_Kingdom7
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="leonalabasters"]Sigh..... Cows living in the past.

leonalabasters

I don't even own a PS3 and I'm a cow?

So why are you defending consoles you dont own?

Maybe because, unlike you,he lives in the real world instead of the fanboy world, where everybody must bow to machines and defending the one they don't own is an act of heresy.

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#36 leonalabasters
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[QUOTE="leonalabasters"]

[QUOTE="SerpentX541"]

How the hell did they betray Sony.....

Floppy_Jim

If the PS3 dominated like the PS2 did, they would have kept games like DMC4, FF, Metal Gear franchise ect. exclusive, but since PS3 is the last place lagger, they went multiplat with their franchises.

Even MGS2 and the GTA games were ported from the dominant PS2 to the Xbox, which was a relative flop. So they still could have gone multiplat if the PS3 were on top anyway.

Games like Metalgear, GTA ect. remained exclsuive on the PS2 for years before being ported. This generation is different in that games like FF, DMC, GTA, Metalgear ect are appearing on other platforms on day 1. Sony is no longer getting treated like they were because they make up a much smaller piece of the pie in console sales.

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#37 leonalabasters
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[QUOTE="leonalabasters"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] I don't even own a PS3 and I'm a cow?Tragic_Kingdom7

So why are you defending consoles you dont own?

Maybe because, unlike you,he lives in the real world instead of the fanboy world, where everybody must bow to machines and defending the one they don't own is an act of heresy.

Then again .... maybe not. Guess work on your part.

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Betrayal? You mean change of direction you don't like. People like to dramatise everything. It's not as if someone developed a video game that was actually a blank disc and then ran off with all your money.

WasntAvailable

This is what I was trying to say, but you said it better.

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[QUOTE="leonalabasters"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] I don't even own a PS3 and I'm a cow?Tragic_Kingdom7

So why are you defending consoles you dont own?

Maybe because, unlike you,he lives in the real world instead of the fanboy world, where everybody must bow to machines and defending the one they don't own is an act of heresy.

*gives cookie* Pretty much what I was going to say.
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#40 aaronmullan
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[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="leonalabasters"]So why are you defending consoles you dont own?leonalabasters

Maybe because, unlike you,he lives in the real world instead of the fanboy world, where everybody must bow to machines and defending the one they don't own is an act of heresy.

Then again .... maybe not. Guess work on your part.

Nah. He/she was right. I'm not a fanboy, and I admit when I am biased. Unlike you, who only bows down to a certain console (obviously not the PS3).
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#41 leonalabasters
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[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="leonalabasters"]So why are you defending consoles you dont own?aaronmullan

Maybe because, unlike you,he lives in the real world instead of the fanboy world, where everybody must bow to machines and defending the one they don't own is an act of heresy.

*gives cookie* Pretty much what I was going to say.

Oh.... I thought you were going to continue with our argument which you were proven wrong in.

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#42 Tragic_Kingdom7
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[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="leonalabasters"]So why are you defending consoles you dont own?leonalabasters

Maybe because, unlike you,he lives in the real world instead of the fanboy world, where everybody must bow to machines and defending the one they don't own is an act of heresy.

Then again .... maybe not. Guess work on your part.

Perhaps, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. Your assumption that he must be a cow because he defends a console he doesn't own is a pretty typical fanboy knee-jerk reaction.

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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

Maybe because, unlike you,he lives in the real world instead of the fanboy world, where everybody must bow to machines and defending the one they don't own is an act of heresy.

leonalabasters

*gives cookie* Pretty much what I was going to say.

Oh.... I thought you were going to continue with our argument which you were proven wrong in.

No point in even trying.

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I wouldn't exactly call it "betrayal", since I am not PC Gaming, but Unreal Tournament 3 really did suck compared to the previous ones in the series. They took one of the fastest paced, reflex intensive, vertically based FPS series ever and turned it into basically afirst person Gears of War without a cover system. It's so slow and cumbersome, removing the insane jumps got rid of a lot of intensity, and the weapons look ridiculously stupid. Epic should be ashamed of themselves.

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Guild Wars 2 is going to be a bad betrayal (they are removing most of the skills, which means all characters are going to be generic).

I hate to seegreat PC franchisesbecomes dumbed down and slow so they work on consoles.

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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]

[QUOTE="leonalabasters"]Oh.... I thought you were going to continue with our argument which you were proven wrong in.

leonalabasters

No point in even trying.

You look cold.

Good comeback :lol:

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Not exactly a betrayal, but the saddest moment in my gaming life was when MS bought out Bungie. Sad day that was :(... But it turned out OK in the end ;)
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Who hasn't betrayed Sony this gen?

Square, Rockstar, Capcom, Konami, Activision.... pretyy much every third party that gave PS2 third party exclusives.

leonalabasters

Square is still with them.

The worst betrayal, Rare being bought by MS.

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#50 psychobrew
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Wow, where did Bethsoft go wrong?