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#1 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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So the 3DS is pretty awesome, and it blows the PSP out of the water in every single way. The question is, assuming Sony continues with the PSP brand (and you know they will), what will the PSP successor have to do to actually have a shot at going against the 3DS? It's pretty obvious that it'll have to have the kind of killer support that the 3DS is getting, but what else? What kind of specs and features do you think it will have to have?

I'd say it has to have two analog sticks and a touch screen at the very least. The rumours peg the PSP to have a four core Cell processor, and I hope that the PSP does NOT have that, though it might still have a GPU/CPU of equivalent power. The reason I say this is because the Cell is known to be notoriously difficlut to program for. Also, I think Sony should make the next PSP a phone, because the way I see it, the PSP brand isn't a strong enough gaming brand to work, and definitely cannot counter the DS brand. Sony should therefore choose to counter the iPhone instead, and make the PSP phone Android based, enabling it to compete properly.

Finally, I'd say Sony should ditch all the useless media functionality and focus on the core of a gaming system: games.

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#2 mushi799
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Definitely Android base. Unlock phone $299. $199 w/ contract. Browsing with Chrome on psp2 would be cool.

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new games, that aren't just spin-off's of standard Console games..

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Better Online systems (PS store never works properly, and when it does, it is as slow as ****)

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#4 FIipMode
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I don't think a PSP2 is coming anytime soon, they just launched a new ad campaign for the PSP.
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Manage a consistently good library. This is where the DS has it beat currently, in that the library is huge, and has a ton of good games. PSP has some great ones, but they come few and far between.

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I don't think a PSP2 is coming anytime soon, they just launched a new ad campaign for the PSP.FIipMode
True, but I suppose Sony MUST understand the PSP stands no chance in hell against either the DS or the 3DS. I'd say a PSP2 announcement is impending. TGS. Mark my words, it'll be there at TGS.
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IMO it should stay a dedicated gaming console, not a new smart phone. I also believe it should NOT have 3D or a touch screen.

but is should have:

much more power

2 analogue sticks

a very high resolution screen, maybe 420p (maybe even 480p O.o) would be great on a PSP screen

a lot of support

uncharted psp!

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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]I don't think a PSP2 is coming anytime soon, they just launched a new ad campaign for the PSP.charizard1605
True, but I suppose Sony MUST understand the PSP stands no chance in hell against either the DS or the 3DS. I'd say a PSP2 announcement is impending. TGS. Mark my words, it'll be there at TGS.

I agree with that, TGS.

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IMO it should stay a dedicated gaming console, not a new smart phone. I also believe it should NOT have 3D or a touch screen.

but is should have:

much more power

2 analogue sticks

a very high resolution screen, maybe 420p (maybe even 480p O.o) would be great on a PSP screen

a lot of support

uncharted psp!

_Matt_
It can't be just a handheld. Sony will never win against Nintendo on the handheld front. The psp has to be more than just a handheld. They have to market the PSP as in all in one device
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i think phone is their best bet. trying to go down the psp route again won't work, the 3d on the 3ds will be far more impressive to people than wii graphics or better on a psp2. with the support the 3ds looks to be getting, sony will have to put some serious effort into the initial launch lineup to get people on board. especially if it comes out in a year or so, when the 3ds lineup will be even more solid, and will likely have software for most peoples needs. sony will be coming up with something, hopefully not a 3ds copy.
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Pokemon.

Or Playmon. PSP's take on Pokemon.

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[QUOTE="mushi799"][QUOTE="_Matt_"]

IMO it should stay a dedicated gaming console, not a new smart phone. I also believe it should NOT have 3D or a touch screen.

but is should have:

much more power

2 analogue sticks

a very high resolution screen, maybe 420p (maybe even 480p O.o) would be great on a PSP screen

a lot of support

uncharted psp!

It can't be just a handheld. Sony will never win against Nintendo on the handheld front. The psp has to be more than just a handheld. They have to market the PSP as in all in one device

Exactly. If Sony markets the new PSP as an 'iPhone killer' to the masses, it would sell like crazy.
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Pokemon.

Silverbond
Do I need to point out how wrong you are?
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I disagree with the potential TGS announcement, if it wasnt announced on E3 this year they wont do it until E3 2011
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#15 Dead-Memories
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Not release.

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I disagree with the potential TGS announcement, if it wasnt announced on E3 this year they wont do it until E3 2011AgentA-Mi6
we'll see. I can't picture sony watching it the sideline as the 3DS slaughters the PSP.
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#17 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Pokemon.

charizard1605

Do I need to point out how wrong you are?

Do you need to? Or do you want to?

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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Pokemon.

Do I need to point out how wrong you are?

Do you need to? Or do you want to?

Both, I suppose :P Btw, why the switch to Squirtle? Didn't you like Torchic the best out of all starters?
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I disagree with the potential TGS announcement, if it wasnt announced on E3 this year they wont do it until E3 2011AgentA-Mi6
No, I'm pretty sure it's gonna be there for the TGS. Sony can't afford Nintendo another head start.
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#20 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Do I need to point out how wrong you are?charizard1605

Do you need to? Or do you want to?

Both, I suppose :P

Btw, why the switch to Squirtle? Didn't you like Torchic the best out of all starters?

Don't get me wrong, Torchic's the best. But no one else thought so, and I changed my avy to appeal to the masses.

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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]I disagree with the potential TGS announcement, if it wasnt announced on E3 this year they wont do it until E3 2011mushi799
we'll see. I can't picture sony watching it the sideline as the 3DS slaughters the PSP.

The 3ds dosen't have to slaughter the psp, the ds did that a long time ago.

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new games, that aren't just spin-off's of standard Console games..

Second Thumbstick

Better Online systems (PS store never works properly, and when it does, it is as slow as ****)

siddhu33
The 3DS launch lineup is basically ports of old Nintendo games and other 3rd party games, but it seems to be going well with nintendo fans. I think the PSP2 needs is just more games. The tech is there so just get better support for the thing.
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Do you need to? Or do you want to?

Both, I suppose :P

Btw, why the switch to Squirtle? Didn't you like Torchic the best out of all starters?

Don't get me wrong, Torchic's the best. But no one else thought so, and I changed my avy to appeal to the masses.

But now you can be mistaken for Aku! :(
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="siddhu33"]

new games, that aren't just spin-off's of standard Console games..

Second Thumbstick

Better Online systems (PS store never works properly, and when it does, it is as slow as ****)

The 3DS launch lineup is basically ports of old Nintendo games and other 3rd party games, but it seems to be going well with nintendo fans. I think the PSP2 needs is just more games. The tech is there so just get better support for the thing.

What about Mario Kart 3D? Saint's Row Drive By? Resident Evil Revelations? There's tons of original stuff on the 3DS as well, you just need to look at it with an open mind.
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#25 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Both, I suppose :P

Btw, why the switch to Squirtle? Didn't you like Torchic the best out of all starters?charizard1605

Don't get me wrong, Torchic's the best. But no one else thought so, and I changed my avy to appeal to the masses.

But now you can be mistaken for Aku! :(

Personally, I think that would be awesome.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="siddhu33"]

new games, that aren't just spin-off's of standard Console games..

Second Thumbstick

Better Online systems (PS store never works properly, and when it does, it is as slow as ****)

The 3DS launch lineup is basically ports of old Nintendo games and other 3rd party games, but it seems to be going well with nintendo fans. I think the PSP2 needs is just more games. The tech is there so just get better support for the thing.

What about Mario Kart 3D? Saint's Row Drive By? Resident Evil Revelations? There's tons of original stuff on the 3DS as well, you just need to look at it with an open mind.

Well of course there is original content there but what fans seem to be most excited for is the ports.
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graphics wise the psp cant go much further without breaking the SD barrier
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when i saw sony talking about creating a new ad campaign for the psp i cringed, they should really have announced the psp2 at e3 because they will be left in the dust by the 3ds if it doent get released at around the same time (i owned a psp not a ds this gen :)) i honestly cannot see the 3ds getting beat by anything at this point even in the visual deparetment it is no slouch just watch the MGS gameplay on it, it is easily as good as the ps2 id say about wii level

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] The 3DS launch lineup is basically ports of old Nintendo games and other 3rd party games, but it seems to be going well with nintendo fans. I think the PSP2 needs is just more games. The tech is there so just get better support for the thing. Ragnarok1051
What about Mario Kart 3D? Saint's Row Drive By? Resident Evil Revelations? There's tons of original stuff on the 3DS as well, you just need to look at it with an open mind.

Well of course there is original content there but what fans seem to be most excited for is the ports.

Only because it is indicative of third party support and the power of the system.
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when i saw sony talking about creating a new ad campaign for the psp i cringed, they should really have announced the psp2 at e3 because they will be left in the dust by the 3ds if it doent get released at around the same time (i owned a psp not a ds this gen :)) i honestly cannot see the 3ds getting beat by anything at this point even in the visual deparetment it is no slouch just watch the MGS gameplay on it, it is easily as good as the ps2 id say about wii level

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It's processor is supposed to be nearing X360/PS3 levels :shock:
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] What about Mario Kart 3D? Saint's Row Drive By? Resident Evil Revelations? There's tons of original stuff on the 3DS as well, you just need to look at it with an open mind. charizard1605
Well of course there is original content there but what fans seem to be most excited for is the ports.

Only because it is indicative of third party support and the power of the system.

Well yeah but its seems really hypocritical of Nintendo fans for a long time bashing the PSP for ports, but now they seem to have no problem with it.
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It needs a miracle.
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when i saw sony talking about creating a new ad campaign for the psp i cringed, they should really have announced the psp2 at e3 because they will be left in the dust by the 3ds if it doent get released at around the same time (i owned a psp not a ds this gen :)) i honestly cannot see the 3ds getting beat by anything at this point even in the visual deparetment it is no slouch just watch the MGS gameplay on it, it is easily as good as the ps2 id say about wii level

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Ooh, that MGS sounds awesome, you got a link? I am yet to see many videos of the 3DS but MGS is up my street (when the protagonist is not called Raiden)

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360 graphics and two robust analog sticks. Nothing less.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] Well of course there is original content there but what fans seem to be most excited for is the ports. Ragnarok1051
Only because it is indicative of third party support and the power of the system.

Well yeah but its seems really hypocritical of Nintendo fans for a long time bashing the PSP for ports, but now they seem to have no problem with it.

I'm actually worried that this might become the trend myself, but I don't see it happening, if only because Nintendo will show the way with proper unique experiences, and because the 3DS has enough quirky features to encourage some nice twists to traditional games.
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360 graphics and two robust analog sticks. Nothing less.

2-10-08

agreed. I can settle for slightly less than 360 graphics, but it still has to look kick ass!

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360 graphics and two robust analog sticks. Nothing less.

2-10-08
It needs a miracle.SaltyMeatballs
You both said about the same thing :P
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[QUOTE="icyseanfitz"]

when i saw sony talking about creating a new ad campaign for the psp i cringed, they should really have announced the psp2 at e3 because they will be left in the dust by the 3ds if it doent get released at around the same time (i owned a psp not a ds this gen :)) i honestly cannot see the 3ds getting beat by anything at this point even in the visual deparetment it is no slouch just watch the MGS gameplay on it, it is easily as good as the ps2 id say about wii level

_Matt_

Ooh, that MGS sounds awesome, you got a link? I am yet to see many videos of the 3DS but MGS is up my street (when the protagonist is not called Raiden)

here that is off screen though, and the video is not too great of quality.

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It needs a miracle.SaltyMeatballs
Or just games. It doesn't need to blow the 3DS away.
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]It needs a miracle.Ragnarok1051
Or just games. It doesn't need to blow the 3DS away.

If the first PSP is any indication, Sony might find the going to be tough.
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[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

[QUOTE="icyseanfitz"]

when i saw sony talking about creating a new ad campaign for the psp i cringed, they should really have announced the psp2 at e3 because they will be left in the dust by the 3ds if it doent get released at around the same time (i owned a psp not a ds this gen :)) i honestly cannot see the 3ds getting beat by anything at this point even in the visual deparetment it is no slouch just watch the MGS gameplay on it, it is easily as good as the ps2 id say about wii level

Mckenna1845

Ooh, that MGS sounds awesome, you got a link? I am yet to see many videos of the 3DS but MGS is up my street (when the protagonist is not called Raiden)

here that is off screen though, and the video is not too great of quality.

Wow. All i can say. Wow. cheers for th link. I would never have expected Nintendo to get these sort of graphics in a handheld. That is impressive. Also I heard Splinter cell cahos theory is coming to the 3DS, is this true? Is there any video for it if so?

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]It needs a miracle.charizard1605
Or just games. It doesn't need to blow the 3DS away.

If the first PSP is any indication, Sony might find the going to be tough.

I can see a lot of 3DS/PSP2 multiplats. The real draw of the 3DS will be the exclusive games which utilise its features well, much like the DS' games..
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Its not gonna beat the 3ds as a gaming device and it won't touch the iphone as a phone/all in one device, dunno what they could do really.

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[QUOTE="Mckenna1845"]

here that is off screen though, and the video is not too great of quality.

_Matt_

Wow. All i can say. Wow. cheers for th link. I would never have expected Nintendo to get these sort of graphics in a handheld. That is impressive. Also I heard Splinter cell cahos theory is coming to the 3DS, is this true? Is there any video for it if so?

nope but there are some screens of various 3ds games here, although some look like bullshots or videos like the resident evil pics. i would imagine all the nintendo game shots are real like the paper mario and mario kart ones.

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[QUOTE="Mckenna1845"]

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

[QUOTE="Mckenna1845"]

here that is off screen though, and the video is not too great of quality.

Wow. All i can say. Wow. cheers for th link. I would never have expected Nintendo to get these sort of graphics in a handheld. That is impressive. Also I heard Splinter cell cahos theory is coming to the 3DS, is this true? Is there any video for it if so?

nope but there are some screens of various 3ds games here, although some look like bullshots or videos like the resident evil pics. i would imagine all the nintendo game shots are real like the paper mario and mario kart ones.

Mario Kart looks sweet :D
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wont outsell 3ds. The only way the psp2 would be able to if it somehow was only like 100 bucks but that wont happen.
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Not be a horrible failure like the 1st Psp. The 3DS is going to destroy whatever sony has in store next for its flop handheld so I dont think theres anything sony can do.
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Mario Kart looks insane. Ooh, and dont forget, its Riddge Raceeer! Riiiiiidge Racer! lol

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Mario Kart looks insane. Ooh, and dont forget, its Riddge Raceeer! Riiiiiidge Racer! lol

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Someone in the audience actually shouted that out :P
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#50 inggrish
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[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

Mario Kart looks insane. Ooh, and dont forget, its Riddge Raceeer! Riiiiiidge Racer! lol

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Someone in the audience actually shouted that out :P

seriously? lol, major lol. I watched Nintendos conference live, and I was so thoroughly bored until they showed this console. I am still slightly skeptical though. a 3D screen, a 3D camera, impressive visuals, a great quality screen; how much is this going to kill my wallet?