What will you do once everything becomes Free 2 Play?

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#1 parkurtommo
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I just saw this article, which makes me think that everything really will become free 2 play, even on consoles.

Now I know what you might be thinking: "Nah there will always be indie studios and smaller, more loyal devs". But this phenomenon might just take over the whole industry in the same way that linear action adventure games have dominated this gen. It's coming, you know it is.

What will you do?

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#2 Nega3
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I'll Just suck it up.

I hate F2P but it's not so bad that I need to stop.

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#3 freedomfreak
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Multiplayer is meh.

So, I'll just buy old consoles and games and play those.

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#4 ultraking
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Free to play becomes pay to win. I just saw it happen in dc universe and it sucks.
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#5 parkurtommo
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Multiplayer is meh.

So, I'll just buy old consoles and games and play those.

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You'll become a retro gamer, eh? That's what I'm inclined towards doing as well.
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#6 DethSkematik
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If they do it right, I wouldn't mind it....I mean, in most F2P games, progress just slows down to pressure you into leveling the playing field with your credit card, but for the most part it's still do-able. Although some games handicap you to a point where playing the game is utterly useless until you cave in (like APB...everything I unlocked in the game was stripped away and had a huge ass price tag slapped on it when it went F2P. Something like rent a weapon for $5 a month or buy it for $50, along the lines of that). Or Age of Conan...when I cancelled my sub and just took the free route, I was pretty shocked that all the gold I've earned was "locked" past a limit of 2 gold, and the only way I get my currency back was to subscribe again :x.
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#7 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

Multiplayer is meh.

So, I'll just buy old consoles and games and play those.

parkurtommo
You'll become a retro gamer, eh? That's what I'm inclined towards doing as well.

I suppose. Unless they release F2P SP games. Although that would be weird.
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#8 parkurtommo
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Free to play becomes pay to win. I just saw it happen in dc universe and it sucks. ultraking
Which is why Free 2 Play always sucks, because, even if it's balanced or purely cosmetic like in TF2, it will always feel incomplete and slightly unfair...

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#9 razgriz_101
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i'll wait n see, i'll come to this bridge when it actually happens.

If developers could provide episodic single players much like doom back in the day i might be intrested, if not they can take a hike.Although i dont see this as a feasable model for RPG's really.

Mind you it would work for sports games i think as long as developers could provide updates to the engine every year and improve the game.

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#10 jun_aka_pekto
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I just saw this article, which makes me think that everything really will become free 2 play, even on consoles.

Now I know what you might be thinking: "Nah there will always be indie studios and smaller, more loyal devs". But this phenomenon might just take over the whole industry in the same way that linear action adventure games have dominated this gen. It's coming, you know it is.

What will you do?

parkurtommo

Most F2P games tend to be multiplayer. I have enough backlog of singleplayer games on the PC going back a few "generations" which means I can ignore F2P altogether and still have plenty of games to play.

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#11 pelvist
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Ill play free games. What will retail outlets do?

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#12 campzor
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have free games to play! YIPEEEEE
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#13 Rocker6
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Wake up,perhaps?

There'll always be a market for the traditional model,games at retail still sell great,there's a lot of demand for them...

Despite EA's beliefs,F2P is not a goldmine that brings in instant profit.

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#14 LegatoSkyheart
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uh...I'll play the games and if I want to buy Hats, I'll buy them.

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Die.
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#16 chaoz-king
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How does F2P single player work?
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#17 parkurtommo
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How does F2P single player work?chaoz-king
Thing is, it doesn't work!
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#18 silversix_  Online
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Play free games and NEVER spend a penny in the games i play.
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#19 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="chaoz-king"]How does F2P single player work?parkurtommo
Thing is, it doesn't work!

first episode free, rest paid for content.

Used to do it in the 90's surprised with current distro channels this kinda thing didnt take off.

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#20 LegatoSkyheart
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How does F2P single player work?chaoz-king

You pay for a Subscription Fee like Playstation Plus and Download Free Games.

Or if it's a Online FPS or TPS, Download and Play!

There might be an AD or Two to Watch and you might be 5-15mins in the match, but you'll play, eventually.

If you like the game and want to look swanky in the game you can go to the In Game Store and buy Multiple Hats and Gear for your Avatar!

Oh yeah and all of this is on a Cloud so you don't have to download anything to do it.

Future of Gaming Folks.

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#21 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="chaoz-king"]How does F2P single player work?razgriz_101

Thing is, it doesn't work!

first episode free, rest paid for content.

Used to do it in the 90's surprised with current distro channels this kinda thing didnt take off.

I guess that could work but the way things are currently it looks like F2P is a synonym to multiplayer.
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How does F2P single player work?chaoz-king
you download a game and crack it :D
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#23 SecretPolice
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Wait for XBL to go free and then quit mah job. :o

And yes, I'm serial man, supah serial. :twisted:

Ok, ok umm, I don't think everything will ever go F2P but if it does, I'll likely find a way to enjoy gaming cause that's just what I do.

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#24 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="chaoz-king"]How does F2P single player work?AmnesiaHaze
you download a game and crack it :D

shhh shh
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#25 D1zzyCriminal
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Free to play isnt bad. There are good F2P games.

Greedy pricing and poor choices in the game structure are what hurt most F2P games.

The thing about F2P is you don't get a singleplayer experience most of the time.

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#26 nameless12345
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If it would turn out good, I'd welcome it.

But if it was heavily focused on DLC and hidden fees, then no thanks.

I don't think the traditional retail model is dated yet.

We'll see more downloadable content in the near future, tho.

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#27 LegatoSkyheart
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If it would turn out good, I'd welcome it.

But if it was heavily focused on DLC and hidden fees, then no thanks.

I don't think the traditional retail model is dated yet.

We'll see more downloadable content in the near future, tho.

nameless12345

You'll more than likely see loads of ads than anything.

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There will always be traditional retail, but I think F2P is going to kill the $60 game. We'll start seeing more $30-$40 focused single player titles.

F2P is proving you can have a 100% uncompromisedexperience without paying a penny. If you decide to pay, you can usually unlock a lot of content much quicker for way less than a full retail game. It's a great system.

There is nothing wrong with throwing down like $20 in a F2P game you enjoy.

F2P is only going to get better. EA is going to fail with their freemiume model as other F2P games will never require you to pay. Once EA fails more developers will embrace F2P and everything will become better because of that.

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#29 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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As somebody that currently plays 4 free2play games that are better than most AAA games out there.... bring it on?
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#30 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Play games like normal?
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#31 ghidorah45
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It just makes me so mad that the majority of free to play games are all pay to win. : (
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#32 Heil68
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Be glad I dont have to spend $60 for games? Seriously though, I'm currently playing LoL, LOTR Online, TF2, Path of Exile and soon I'll be playing SWTOR and in the future Planetside 2, all of which will offer hundreds and hundreds of hours of game play.
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#33 Heil68
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It just makes me so mad that the majority of free to play games are all pay to win. : (ghidorah45
which ones? The ones I listed in my other post aren't and never will be.
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#34 Heil68
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As somebody that currently plays 4 free2play games that are better than most AAA games out there.... bring it on?MBirdy88
Which ones you playing?
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]As somebody that currently plays 4 free2play games that are better than most AAA games out there.... bring it on?Heil68
Which ones you playing?

Dota 2, Path or Exile, Tribes, Team Fortress 2. Soon, planetside 2 I guess :P
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#36 ghidorah45
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[QUOTE="ghidorah45"]It just makes me so mad that the majority of free to play games are all pay to win. : (Heil68
which ones? The ones I listed in my other post aren't and never will be.

Tribes ascend, Planetside 2, Blacklight retribution, League of Legends, Team Fortress 2, Combat arms, etc.
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="ghidorah45"]It just makes me so mad that the majority of free to play games are all pay to win. : (ghidorah45
which ones? The ones I listed in my other post aren't and never will be.

Tribes ascend, Planetside 2, Blacklight retribution, League of Legends, Team Fortress 2, Combat arms, etc.

Oh please, excuses. all you can pay to do in most of those is speed up the process in which you get items. in Tribes' case most of the alternative weapons you can buy are just ALTERNATIVES and are in many ways worse. Same with team fotress. I dunno, saying team fotress is pay 2 win is laughable, you gain items at a fast rate, and there are 1000s of trading servers to easily get the weapons you want. Other than a few exceptions I use the default weapons, because most of the alternatives are gimmicks.
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#38 Heil68
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="ghidorah45"][QUOTE="Heil68"] which ones? The ones I listed in my other post aren't and never will be.

Tribes ascend, Planetside 2, Blacklight retribution, League of Legends, Team Fortress 2, Combat arms, etc.

Oh please, excuses. all you can pay to do in most of those is speed up the process in which you get items. in Tribes' case most of the alternative weapons you can buy are just ALTERNATIVES and are in many ways worse. Same with team fotress. I dunno, saying team fotress is pay 2 win is laughable, you gain items at a fast rate, and there are 1000s of trading servers to easily get the weapons you want. Other than a few exceptions I use the default weapons, because most of the alternatives are gimmicks.

Yup, not to mention PS2 isnt out yet so you blew his whole post out of the water. In fact, I cant think of single pay to win game(not saying there aren't any).
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="ghidorah45"][QUOTE="Heil68"] which ones? The ones I listed in my other post aren't and never will be.

Tribes ascend, Planetside 2, Blacklight retribution, League of Legends, Team Fortress 2, Combat arms, etc.

Oh please, excuses. all you can pay to do in most of those is speed up the process in which you get items. in Tribes' case most of the alternative weapons you can buy are just ALTERNATIVES and are in many ways worse. Same with team fotress. I dunno, saying team fotress is pay 2 win is laughable, you gain items at a fast rate, and there are 1000s of trading servers to easily get the weapons you want. Other than a few exceptions I use the default weapons, because most of the alternatives are gimmicks.

Yeah they are all excuses, I had to go to the steam forums to find a list of pay to win games. My post is a failure, you win.
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#40 lowe0
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I'll Just suck it up.

I hate F2P but it's not so bad that I need to stop.

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This. It's not ideal, but it's better than no gaming at all.
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#41 NaturalDisplay
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F2P will kill gaming if not done properly. I use to be a strong advocate for F2P during my MMO days but I realised the problems commonly associated with F2P MMOs. One of the biggest problem is pay to win. It is not uncommon to see players spend more on cash shop items than say someone else who spends $20 a month on subscription fees.

If console games were to adopt the F2P format, I will definitely quit gaming. You know why? Because you they will start charging you $$$ every time you want to progress through the game. e.g: Want to unlock the final boss? Pay $10. Want another save file? Pay another $10. You get the idea.

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#42 Animal-Mother
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Multiplayer is meh.

So, I'll just buy old consoles and games and play those.

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Pretty much the same as you smarty pants.
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#43 mitu123
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Free to play becomes pay to win. I just saw it happen in dc universe and it sucks. ultraking
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Bake a cake.

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was that a command like YOU WILL DIE, or what you will do if everything becomes F2P? because the context changes wheather I agree with you or not.

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#46 demon-returns
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There will always be traditional retail, but I think F2P is going to kill the $60 game. We'll start seeing more $30-$40 focused single player titles.

F2P is proving you can have a 100% uncompromisedexperience without paying a penny. If you decide to pay, you can usually unlock a lot of content much quicker for way less than a full retail game. It's a great system.

There is nothing wrong with throwing down like $20 in a F2P game you enjoy.

F2P is only going to get better. EA is going to fail with their freemiume model as other F2P games will never require you to pay. Once EA fails more developers will embrace F2P and everything will become better because of that.

Wasdie

I wonder what planet you live on..... no way it's earth if you believed ANY of what you just wrote

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Single player games are almost never free to play, and single player games will always exist.
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#48 Mozuckint
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Play free games and NEVER spend a penny in the games i play.silversix_
^^That and some GOG on the side.
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#49 locopatho
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Play old games. The whole notion of "the more money you spend the more fun you have" utterly breaks gaming, imo.
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#50 illmatic87
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Play old games. The whole notion of "the more money you spend the more fun you have" utterly breaks gaming, imo. locopatho
I enjoyed my premium $30 for this one F2P title over the $60 I dropped on BF3. Fancy that.