What would the Wii need? (lems and cows only)

There are a lot of theads out there that show the impressive lineup of Wii games for this year, but many lems and cows seem equally unimpressed, dismissing the system (once again) and saying that there aren't really any worthy games coming out for the little Wii.

 On the other hand, if games like Gears of War, Halo 3, MGS4, and FFXIII were coming out for the Wii, lems and cows would simply say, "MEh! Teh grafix sux! I will play it on my 360/PS3 instead"

Is there any way to win with you Nintendo haters?

The graphics on the Wii will never be as crisp as the PS3 or 360, so that argument is out, but if you had a choice of a game (or game series) that could be out on the Wii, what would it be? What game - no matter what company it is licenced to - would make the Wii seem appealing to you? Final Fantasy? KotOR? What would it be?

An AAA exclusive third party title. Endfinal

[QUOTE="Endfinal"]An AAA exclusive third party title. taker42

Oblivion

An AAA exclusive third party title. Endfinal

An AAA exclusive third party title. Endfinal

Add "That appeals to me" to that statement and its exactly my thoughts.

For me, right now, the Wii-Mote just simply isn't being used anywhere close to my expectations for it. But that's to be expected with new technology from its start.

[QUOTE="taker42"][QUOTE="Endfinal"]An AAA exclusive third party title. Khansoul

Oblivion

[QUOTE="taker42"][QUOTE="Endfinal"]An AAA exclusive third party title. Khansoul

Oblivion

I have a wii, and almost regret it, it has nothing I enjoy (wii sports and probably Paper mario when it comes out are the games I enjoy)

What I want to know is what it takes for a cow or sheep to buy a 360, it has awesome games,awesome online, and a decent price point, a a very promising upcoming lineup.

I have a wii, and almost regret it, it has nothing I enjoy (wii sports and probably Paper mario when it comes out are the games I enjoy)

What I want to know is what it takes for a cow or sheep to buy a 360, it has awesome games,awesome online, and a decent price point, a a very promising upcoming lineup.

deangallop

 /thread derail.

And I'm sorry that you don't enjoy your Wii. :(

I have a wii, and almost regret it, it has nothing I enjoy (wii sports and probably Paper mario when it comes out are the games I enjoy)

What I want to know is what it takes for a cow or sheep to buy a 360, it has awesome games,awesome online, and a decent price point, a a very promising upcoming lineup.

deangallop

There are a lot of theads out there that show the impressive lineup of Wii games for this year, but many lems and cows seem equally unimpressed, dismissing the system (once again) and saying that there aren't really any worthy games coming out for the little Wii.

 On the other hand, if games like Gears of War, Halo 3, MGS4, and FFXIII were coming out for the Wii, lems and cows would simply say, "MEh! Teh grafix sux! I will play it on my 360/PS3 instead"

Is there any way to win with you Nintendo haters?

The graphics on the Wii will never be as crisp as the PS3 or 360, so that argument is out, but if you had a choice of a game (or game series) that could be out on the Wii, what would it be? What game - no matter what company it is licenced to - would make the Wii seem appealing to you? Final Fantasy? KotOR? What would it be?

Maelkav

[QUOTE="deangallop"]

I have a wii, and almost regret it, it has nothing I enjoy (wii sports and probably Paper mario when it comes out are the games I enjoy)

What I want to know is what it takes for a cow or sheep to buy a 360, it has awesome games,awesome online, and a decent price point, a a very promising upcoming lineup.

karicha9

Let me break this down from a lemming/gamer standpoint..  I have a 360 and about 10 games and I plan on getting a PS3 when the price drops.  However I have no desire right now to go out and spend 250 bucks on a wii and here's why...

 Fighitng games:  I'm a big fan of fighting games and 99.9% of the good ones are coming out for the 360/PS3 ie DOA4/5(itagaki already said it's in the works), VF5 (great fighting game), Tekken 6(great group fighter)..  Oh and if I want to DL some old school fighters like MKU or SFII I can play them online with hundreds of others gamers..  

so riddle me this... what does the wii have in this category?

Action/Adventure games:  I'm a big fan of A/A games such as DMC, NG ect.. I'm getting DMC4 when it comes out and I'll getting NG2 when it comes out next year *crosses fingers* Heavenly sword and Too Human both have potential to be great games.. 

so riddle me this... what does the wii have in this category and please don't list some mudane Deep cultured Japanese game that probably wont even make it to the states..

Shooters:  Probably my fav genre at the moment..  The 360 was practically built for these as 50% of my library consists of shooters ie Lost Planet, PDZ, GRAW, Gears ect..  And with Bioshock, UT3 and  Halo 3 coming out they'll be little need for another system. 

 So besides MP (which I disliked the previous two) what's the wii have in this category?

I'm kinda partial to Racers and RPG's but with Blue dragon hitting this summer and Forza 2 hitting next month I should get my fill...   But feel free to jump in there and offer up some wii titles in those categories...  

[QUOTE="deangallop"]

I have a wii, and almost regret it, it has nothing I enjoy (wii sports and probably Paper mario when it comes out are the games I enjoy)

What I want to know is what it takes for a cow or sheep to buy a 360, it has awesome games,awesome online, and a decent price point, a a very promising upcoming lineup.

karicha9

 I was kind of afraid of that too, but I got a deal at EB where I got a free game (GRAW), and a free 1 yr replacement plan. That made me feel better in case I get a flawed system. 

I am no fanboy, but I own a PS3 so I will awnser.

Right now the only game I would want is Zelda: TP, but I already own that on Gamecube. Im not saying that it doesnt have any other good games, they just dont intrest me. Maybe we can talk after Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Super Mario Galaxy come out.

[QUOTE="taker42"][QUOTE="Endfinal"]An AAA exclusive third party title. Khansoul

Oblivion

[QUOTE="taker42"][QUOTE="project343"][QUOTE="taker42"]
Does PS3 or even 360 has an AAA exclusive third party title now?OhSnapitz

Who published Gears of War? I thought it was Microsoft. Epic is def third party though.  

 

 Fighitng games:  I'm a big fan of fighting games and 99.9% of the good ones are coming out for the 360/PS3 ie DOA4/5(itagaki already said it's in the works), VF5 (great fighting game), Tekken 6(great group fighter)..  Oh and if I want to DL some old school fighters like MKU or SFII I can play them online with hundreds of others gamers..  

so riddle me this... what does the wii have in this category?

Action/Adventure games:  I'm a big fan of A/A games such as DMC, NG ect.. I'm getting DMC4 when it comes out and I'll getting NG2 when it comes out next year *crosses fingers* Heavenly sword and Too Human both have potential to be great games.. 

Shooters:  Probably my fav genre at the moment..  The 360 was practically built for these as 50% of my library consists of shooters ie Lost Planet, PDZ, GRAW, Gears ect..  And with Bioshock, UT3 and  Halo 3 coming out they'll be little need for another system. 

I'm kinda partial to Racers and RPG's but with Blue dragon hitting this summer and Forza 2 hitting next month I should get my fill...   But feel free to jump in there and offer up some wii titles in those categories...  

OhSnapitz

Remember, the Wii is still in its infancy. Lots of those games you mentioned didn't come out within the 1st 6 months of the 360. But to answer your question:

Fighting: DragonBallZ, Mortal Kombat (coming soon)

Action/Adenture: Nintendo always has a lot of these in 1st party, (zelda, mario, dragon quest, Fire Emblem, etc.) but it will be 3rd party devs that will round out the genre. Right now, Zelda satisfies me.

Shooters: you already mentioned MP, so I won't. Unfortunatley, shooters on the Wii suck. But I didn't buy a Wii for that

Party games/family friendly: It's in THIS category (which you didn't mention) that the Wii shines. Some people don't consider this important, but I do. I like having a dozen people over to play the Wii. Everyone has fun. Everyone can play it. If I can even THINK of a dozen 360 or PS3 owners who would agree on the same game, the night would degenerate into name-calling and game-swapping. Not for me. I had enough of that with Halo 2 on the XBOX.

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

 

Fighitng games: I'm a big fan of fighting games and 99.9% of the good ones are coming out for the 360/PS3 ie DOA4/5(itagaki already said it's in the works), VF5 (great fighting game), Tekken 6(great group fighter).. Oh and if I want to DL some old school fighters like MKU or SFII I can play them online with hundreds of others gamers..

so riddle me this... what does the wii have in this category?

Action/Adventure games: I'm a big fan of A/A games such as DMC, NG ect.. I'm getting DMC4 when it comes out and I'll getting NG2 when it comes out next year *crosses fingers* Heavenly sword and Too Human both have potential to be great games..

Shooters: Probably my fav genre at the moment.. The 360 was practically built for these as 50% of my library consists of shooters ie Lost Planet, PDZ, GRAW, Gears ect.. And with Bioshock, UT3 and Halo 3 coming out they'll be little need for another system.

I'm kinda partial to Racers and RPG's but with Blue dragon hitting this summer and Forza 2 hitting next month I should get my fill... But feel free to jump in there and offer up some wii titles in those categories...

Maelkav

Remember, the Wii is still in its infancy. Lots of those games you mentioned didn't come out within the 1st 6 months of the 360. But to answer your question:

Fighting: DragonBallZ, Mortal Kombat (coming soon)

Action/Adenture: Nintendo always has a lot of these in 1st party, (zelda, mario, dragon quest, Fire Emblem, etc.) but it will be 3rd party devs that will round out the genre. Right now, Zelda satisfies me.

Shooters: you already mentioned MP, so I won't. Unfortunatley, shooters on the Wii suck. But I didn't buy a Wii for that

Party games/family friendly: It's in THIS category (which you didn't mention) that the Wii shines. Some people don't consider this important, but I do. I like having a dozen people over to play the Wii. Everyone has fun. Everyone can play it. If I can even THINK of a dozen 360 or PS3 owners who would agree on the same game, the night would degenerate into name-calling and game-swapping. Not for me. I had enough of that with Halo 2 on the XBOX.

That's where it gets too casual for me. I don't like having a lot of people around my systems, because most of them don't exactly know how to work the system, and I don't want any accidentals. Also, Dragonball Z sucks, and Mortal Kombat doesn't compare to Virtua Fighter, Tekken, or even Dead or Alive 4. Also, isn't Fire Emblem an RPG, not action/adventure? Me and my friends can have a lot of fun out of Sports games like NBA 2k7, because you can have more than one person on a team. 

Super Smash Bros is a great fighting game. That should be enough if your into fighters.

[QUOTE="Maelkav"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

 

Fighitng games: I'm a big fan of fighting games and 99.9% of the good ones are coming out for the 360/PS3 ie DOA4/5(itagaki already said it's in the works), VF5 (great fighting game), Tekken 6(great group fighter).. Oh and if I want to DL some old school fighters like MKU or SFII I can play them online with hundreds of others gamers..

so riddle me this... what does the wii have in this category?

Action/Adventure games: I'm a big fan of A/A games such as DMC, NG ect.. I'm getting DMC4 when it comes out and I'll getting NG2 when it comes out next year *crosses fingers* Heavenly sword and Too Human both have potential to be great games..

Shooters: Probably my fav genre at the moment.. The 360 was practically built for these as 50% of my library consists of shooters ie Lost Planet, PDZ, GRAW, Gears ect.. And with Bioshock, UT3 and Halo 3 coming out they'll be little need for another system.

I'm kinda partial to Racers and RPG's but with Blue dragon hitting this summer and Forza 2 hitting next month I should get my fill... But feel free to jump in there and offer up some wii titles in those categories...

Impex

Remember, the Wii is still in its infancy. Lots of those games you mentioned didn't come out within the 1st 6 months of the 360. But to answer your question:

Fighting: DragonBallZ, Mortal Kombat (coming soon)

Action/Adenture: Nintendo always has a lot of these in 1st party, (zelda, mario, dragon quest, Fire Emblem, etc.) but it will be 3rd party devs that will round out the genre. Right now, Zelda satisfies me.

Shooters: you already mentioned MP, so I won't. Unfortunatley, shooters on the Wii suck. But I didn't buy a Wii for that

Party games/family friendly: It's in THIS category (which you didn't mention) that the Wii shines. Some people don't consider this important, but I do. I like having a dozen people over to play the Wii. Everyone has fun. Everyone can play it. If I can even THINK of a dozen 360 or PS3 owners who would agree on the same game, the night would degenerate into name-calling and game-swapping. Not for me. I had enough of that with Halo 2 on the XBOX.

That's where it gets too casual for me.I don't like having a lot of people around my systems, because most of them don't exactly know how to work the system, and I don't want any accidentals. Also, Dragonball Z sucks, and Mortal Kombat doesn't compare to Virtua Fighter, Tekken, or even Dead or Alive 4. Also, isn't Fire Emblem an RPG, not action/adventure? Me and my friends can have a lot of fun out of Sports games like NBA 2k7, because you can have more than one person on a team. 

Actually, the exact opposite is true. Anyone can pick up and be competent at Wii bowling in about 3 minutes. Almost anyone can know "how to work the system" in a very short amount of time. And as for casual, you have to revamp your opinion on what is "casual". The Wii-mote is amazingly sensitive and accurate, and on games like Tiger Woods golf, you need to be precise. Same thing with SSX:Blur.

And for DBZ sucking? Hmmm. Lots of people liked it. I liked it because of the control scheme. 'Fighting game' is not a good genre to fight (*ahem*) over. I could say quite easily that Tekken and Virtua Fighter 5 suck, but that's because I'm a DOA fan.

Super Smash Bros is a great fighting game. That should be enough if your into fighters.

Flaminglips1

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

 

 Fighitng games:  I'm a big fan of fighting games and 99.9% of the good ones are coming out for the 360/PS3 ie DOA4/5(itagaki already said it's in the works), VF5 (great fighting game), Tekken 6(great group fighter)..  Oh and if I want to DL some old school fighters like MKU or SFII I can play them online with hundreds of others gamers..  

so riddle me this... what does the wii have in this category?

Action/Adventure games:  I'm a big fan of A/A games such as DMC, NG ect.. I'm getting DMC4 when it comes out and I'll getting NG2 when it comes out next year *crosses fingers* Heavenly sword and Too Human both have potential to be great games.. 

Shooters:  Probably my fav genre at the moment..  The 360 was practically built for these as 50% of my library consists of shooters ie Lost Planet, PDZ, GRAW, Gears ect..  And with Bioshock, UT3 and  Halo 3 coming out they'll be little need for another system. 

I'm kinda partial to Racers and RPG's but with Blue dragon hitting this summer and Forza 2 hitting next month I should get my fill...   But feel free to jump in there and offer up some wii titles in those categories...  

Maelkav

Remember, the Wii is still in its infancy. Lots of those games you mentioned didn't come out within the 1st 6 months of the 360. But to answer your question:

Fighting: DragonBallZ, Mortal Kombat (coming soon)

Action/Adenture: Nintendo always has a lot of these in 1st party, (zelda, mario, dragon quest, Fire Emblem, etc.) but it will be 3rd party devs that will round out the genre. Right now, Zelda satisfies me.

Shooters: you already mentioned MP, so I won't. Unfortunatley, shooters on the Wii suck. But I didn't buy a Wii for that

Party games/family friendly: It's in THIS category (which you didn't mention) that the Wii shines. Some people don't consider this important, but I do. I like having a dozen people over to play the Wii. Everyone has fun. Everyone can play it. If I can even THINK of a dozen 360 or PS3 owners who would agree on the same game, the night would degenerate into name-calling and game-swapping. Not for me. I had enough of that with Halo 2 on the XBOX.

[QUOTE="Impex"][QUOTE="Maelkav"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

 

Fighitng games: I'm a big fan of fighting games and 99.9% of the good ones are coming out for the 360/PS3 ie DOA4/5(itagaki already said it's in the works), VF5 (great fighting game), Tekken 6(great group fighter).. Oh and if I want to DL some old school fighters like MKU or SFII I can play them online with hundreds of others gamers..

so riddle me this... what does the wii have in this category?

Action/Adventure games: I'm a big fan of A/A games such as DMC, NG ect.. I'm getting DMC4 when it comes out and I'll getting NG2 when it comes out next year *crosses fingers* Heavenly sword and Too Human both have potential to be great games..

Shooters: Probably my fav genre at the moment.. The 360 was practically built for these as 50% of my library consists of shooters ie Lost Planet, PDZ, GRAW, Gears ect.. And with Bioshock, UT3 and Halo 3 coming out they'll be little need for another system.

I'm kinda partial to Racers and RPG's but with Blue dragon hitting this summer and Forza 2 hitting next month I should get my fill... But feel free to jump in there and offer up some wii titles in those categories...

Maelkav

Remember, the Wii is still in its infancy. Lots of those games you mentioned didn't come out within the 1st 6 months of the 360. But to answer your question:

Fighting: DragonBallZ, Mortal Kombat (coming soon)

Action/Adenture: Nintendo always has a lot of these in 1st party, (zelda, mario, dragon quest, Fire Emblem, etc.) but it will be 3rd party devs that will round out the genre. Right now, Zelda satisfies me.

Shooters: you already mentioned MP, so I won't. Unfortunatley, shooters on the Wii suck. But I didn't buy a Wii for that

Party games/family friendly: It's in THIS category (which you didn't mention) that the Wii shines. Some people don't consider this important, but I do. I like having a dozen people over to play the Wii. Everyone has fun. Everyone can play it. If I can even THINK of a dozen 360 or PS3 owners who would agree on the same game, the night would degenerate into name-calling and game-swapping. Not for me. I had enough of that with Halo 2 on the XBOX.

That's where it gets too casual for me.I don't like having a lot of people around my systems, because most of them don't exactly know how to work the system, and I don't want any accidentals. Also, Dragonball Z sucks, and Mortal Kombat doesn't compare to Virtua Fighter, Tekken, or even Dead or Alive 4. Also, isn't Fire Emblem an RPG, not action/adventure? Me and my friends can have a lot of fun out of Sports games like NBA 2k7, because you can have more than one person on a team.

Actually, the exact opposite is true. Anyone can pick up and be competent at Wii bowling in about 3 minutes. Almost anyone can know "how to work the system" in a very short amount of time. And as for casual, you have to revamp your opinion on what is "casual". The Wii-mote is amazingly sensitive and accurate, and on games like Tiger Woods golf, you need to be precise. Same thing with SSX:Blur.

And for DBZ sucking? Hmmm. Lots of people liked it. I liked it because of the control scheme. 'Fighting game' is not a good genre to fight (*ahem*) over. I could say quite easily that Tekken and Virtua Fighter 5 suck, but that's because I'm a DOA fan.

Well, I happen to be cautious around expensive things that I own. (A friend once got angry and decided to throw the controller, fortunately it was fine, but still...) 

On my 360, my friends are always asking "What button do I press!?", and I have to baby them through everything.  

I pretty much consider the Wii in general, casual. Most of the games are party games, and just doesn't interest me.  

I've heard many things that the Wii isn't always accurate (FPS), and when I played Excite Truck at the store, it didn't pick up my turning very well.

I've never been a fan of DBZ, so I could care less for any of its titles. I like anime, but DBZ is a no no. I'm cool with any of the fighting games except DBZ or any other crap anime fighters/movie fighters and the like. Virtua Fighter and Tekken are fun imo.  

[QUOTE="Endfinal"]An AAA exclusive third party title. taker42

Super Smash Bros is a great fighting game. That should be enough if your into fighters.

Flaminglips1

Well, I happen to be cautious around expensive things that I own. (A friend once got angry and decided to throw the controller, fortunately it was fine, but still...) 

On my 360, my friends are always asking "What button do I press!?", and I have to baby them through everything.  

I pretty much consider the Wii in general, casual. Most of the games are party games, and just doesn't interest me.  

I've heard many things that the Wii isn't always accurate (FPS), and when I played Excite Truck at the store, it didn't pick up my turning very well.

I've never been a fan of DBZ, so I could care less for any of its titles. I like anime, but DBZ is a no no. I'm cool with any of the fighting games except DBZ or any other crap anime fighters/movie fighters and the like. Virtua Fighter and Tekken are fun imo.  

Impex

I can understand wanting to be cautious. Give the Wii some time. Everyone was told to "give the 360 some time" when people saw that the release titles were largely crap. Me, I "gave the 360 some time" and I haven't been disappointed. Nintendo deserves the same courtesy.

Super Smash Bros is a great fighting game. That should be enough if your into fighters.

Flaminglips1

You have got to be kidding me.

Less Wife-o-meter, more serious gaming.

The wii might be the most sold w/e. But good luck playing with your grandma while getting flooded by games design for people who have no idea what combos mean.

[QUOTE="Flaminglips1"]

Super Smash Bros is a great fighting game. That should be enough if your into fighters.

-The-G-Man-

You have got to be kidding me.

[QUOTE="Impex"]

Well, I happen to be cautious around expensive things that I own. (A friend once got angry and decided to throw the controller, fortunately it was fine, but still...)

On my 360, my friends are always asking "What button do I press!?", and I have to baby them through everything.

I pretty much consider the Wii in general, casual. Most of the games are party games, and just doesn't interest me.

I've heard many things that the Wii isn't always accurate (FPS), and when I played Excite Truck at the store, it didn't pick up my turning very well.

I've never been a fan of DBZ, so I could care less for any of its titles. I like anime, but DBZ is a no no. I'm cool with any of the fighting games except DBZ or any other crap anime fighters/movie fighters and the like. Virtua Fighter and Tekken are fun imo.

Maelkav

I can understand wanting to be cautious. Give the Wii some time. Everyone was told to "give the 360 some time" when people saw that the release titles were largely crap. Me, I "gave the 360 some time" and I haven't been disappointed. Nintendo deserves the same courtesy.

Well, of course it needs time to get out its good titles, but there's nothing to warrant a purchase (for me) right now. When SSB:B comes out, I may have to pick up a Wii. :( 

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"][QUOTE="Flaminglips1"]

Super Smash Bros is a great fighting game. That should be enough if your into fighters.

shungokustasu

You have got to be kidding me.

Yeah.  I mean, I love Super Smash Bros.  But saying that one game is enough if you're a fan of fighters?  Come on.

[QUOTE="Flaminglips1"]

Super Smash Bros is a great fighting game. That should be enough if your into fighters.

beldugo

Smash brothers is the best fighting game there is.  ALTHOUGH its not a "true" fighting game like DOA,Tekken, Virtua Fighter and such.  Its basically in its own category.  "True" fighting games are on a decline and just arent as fun as they used to be.

[QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="Flaminglips1"]

Super Smash Bros is a great fighting game. That should be enough if your into fighters.

MasterChumly

Smash brothers is the best fighting game there is. ALTHOUGH its not a "true" fighting game like DOA,Tekken, Virtua Fighter and such. Its basically in its own category. "True" fighting games are on a decline and just arent as fun as they used to be.