I've heard that people are complaining about Home.
Wha?
Why?
I see nothing wrong with Home.
Enlighten me.
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I don't think people are bashing home as much as they are bashing people that think home will make Sony the King in console and online gaming. This is the arguement that I see; granted home is a cool feature, but I bought my PS3 for games; Where are the games? I have patience though and these games will be arriving soon, I hope.I've heard that people are complaining about Home.
Wha?
Why?
I see nothing wrong with Home.
Enlighten me.
Willy105
From the Playstation 3 article on the main page, from the section about "Home":
Worlds like Second Life and There exist on the fringe and, if I may recklessly dismiss and generalize something that I deliberately choose not to understand, are only used by lunatics and shut-ins. Is that because not enough people have been exposed to these sorts of virtual worlds? Or is it because most people simply aren't interested in some creepy emote-based chat room where 30 guys are doing the robot while trying to hit on the one female avatar in the area and 30 more guys are trying to tell you that you aren't cool if you don't go buy some more virtual bucket hats and headphones for your already-far-too-metrosexual-looking avatars? As long as the PlayStation 3 keeps selling, PS Home is going to be the big mainstream experiment that finally gives us the answer. But all I want to do is accept a game invite from a friend without first having to fumble through a bunch of game-specific menus and obsolete lobbies.
You might think I'm down on PlayStation Home, but to be honest, I can't wait to try it. It all looks so creepy and marketing-driven that getting in there and messing with people is almost certain to be a good time. But considering that Sony doesn't quite have the basics of online functionality down yet, it's hard to get excited about anything that isn't directly focused on filling those basic needs first.Jeff Gerstmann, Editorial Director, Reviews
That pretty much sumes it up; great find and thanks for posting.From the Playstation 3 article on the main page, from the section about "Home":
[quote="Jeff Gerstmann, Editorial Director, Reviews"]
Worlds like Second Life and There exist on the fringe and, if I may recklessly dismiss and generalize something that I deliberately choose not to understand, are only used by lunatics and shut-ins. Is that because not enough people have been exposed to these sorts of virtual worlds? Or is it because most people simply aren't interested in some creepy emote-based chat room where 30 guys are doing the robot while trying to hit on the one female avatar in the area and 30 more guys are trying to tell you that you aren't cool if you don't go buy some more virtual bucket hats and headphones for your already-far-too-metrosexual-looking avatars? As long as the PlayStation 3 keeps selling, PS Home is going to be the big mainstream experiment that finally gives us the answer. But all I want to do is accept a game invite from a friend without first having to fumble through a bunch of game-specific menus and obsolete lobbies.
You might think I'm down on PlayStation Home, but to be honest, I can't wait to try it. It all looks so creepy and marketing-driven that getting in there and messing with people is almost certain to be a good time. But considering that Sony doesn't quite have the basics of online functionality down yet, it's hard to get excited about anything that isn't directly focused on filling those basic needs first.buuzer0
no instant voice messaging, it seems okay for a bit if you are a kid....and I already have one life, I dont need to spend 600 bucks to pretend to have one that isnt real. Sony needs to start ponying up gaming wise.
1. Home features are the same ones that already exist in the Cross Media Bar. Example - MP3 playback, demo playback, trailer viewing (via browser), messaging, et cetera. It's not *adding* features, it's simply creating a visual interface for them. 2. Lack of character interaction. You can't get in fights, hug, kiss, whatever. It's not Second Life. That's probably a good thing, but still, it means that you're essentially a ghost... 3. Advertising - the whole service is built around exposing you to advertising. The lobbies are filled with ads, the "other areas" - movie theater, store, et cetera are all sponsored by other companies which use them as ad-spaces. 4. Money-grubbing - new clothes for your character, furniture, a larger apartment, movie-viewing, et cetera all cost money. Now you may argue "I don't have to pay for that stuff" - but the service is being built around creating a market for them to deliver that content. Home is diminished as a visual interface if you have to pay real money simply to wear a green t-shirt, or in order to let more than four people (including yourself) into your apartment at a time. It costs just as much "virtual space" to show a beautiful lake outside your "virtual apartment" window as it does to show an alley full of trash, yet Sony will charge a premium for the lake. 5. Failure to address online gaming - the biggest complaint many people have about PSN is that it doesn't have the same ease as LIVE when jumping into games. If you've played on both you'll be aware that LIVE makes it incredibly easy to find your friends, say "hey we're going to play some Halo" - and boom they meet you in-game and you're all set to go. If your friend Bobby is playing VE:6 you can even send him an invite cross-game and he can join you whenever he feels like it. Home doesn't add these features - some would argue that instead it complicates meeting up by creating "lobbies" and "apartments" where you're trying to get people to meet up. What if one of your friends wasn't there when you went to your apartment to game - or they keep winding up in a different lobby? It feels like trying to meet up with someone in real life - only they're not answering their phone so you have to hope they show up in the same place at the same time you do. 6. Creepy Factor - Second Life became a place for the deviants of the 'net to meet up and do nasty things, great if that's what you're into... Home could quickly become weird with immature people just filling their apartments with porn and nasty GIF files on the walls... 7. Impermanence - with LIVE your score and achievements are a permanent thing - even if you're not signed in your tags there, you are there, people can go "cool - he finally beat Gears of War on insane" - with Home your apartment ceases to exist when you're signed off. That means it's not exactly WiiConnect24 or Live - it's more like AIM. If you leave your PS3 on all the time signed in, great - but for those of us who will turn the thing off - not so great. See really, the main complaints of HOME are that it's like Killzone 2 - it's a lot of flash and bang, but when you get down to concrete details, what is it doing? Is Killzone 2 a game I can buy yet, or anytime soon? It's been two years - where's the game? Home feels the same way - it's not coming out as a completed release until Fall, but even then it won't have the same features as LIVE. What we really want from PSN is for them to rip off LIVE but make it free, but they haven't done that yet. Please Sony, I'm glad you're improving, but start kicking butt. Until you start tearing MS a new one, they're going to keep charging $400 for an Xbox 360. I want the war to begin.I've heard that people are complaining about Home.
Wha?
Why?
I see nothing wrong with Home.
Enlighten me.
Willy105
It's not that there's something "wrong" with Home. It may very well be a fully functional "life sim" - most of the people arguing against it are doing so defensively.
For example, the people saying this is an XBL-killer. That's like saying Devil May Cry 4 is a Halo-killer. They're not in competition with one another. PSN *IS* in competition with XBL. Because it's the foundational online gaming service for the console, it's the OS for it. For all intensive purposes, Home is really... well, a game. It doesn't actually do anything for the gaming itself.
And walking through a room fully of 3D trophies to see what someone else has accomplished in a game is just waaaaaaay too much work. Much easier to click the Guide button in a lobby while you're waiting for people to file in, look through a list and see what the person's done.
nothing wrong with it. just fanboys trying to mess the stuff other companies come up with. if microsoft came up with the "Home" idea, then the lems would be defending it, the cows would be cursing it, etc. etc. you get the picture.I've heard that people are complaining about Home.
Wha?
Why?
I see nothing wrong with Home.
Enlighten me.
Willy105
I've heard that people are complaining about Home.
Wha?
Why?
I see nothing wrong with Home.
Enlighten me.
Willy105
Nothing is wrong with Home per se - it seems like a cool feature, my major complaint is with Sony's online priorities.
Home is a nice feature and all, but they need to fix the fundamentals before they start adding features like Home. They need to fix the Friends List issues (the ease at which one can invite friends and other players into games and matches,) they can't leave this up to developers to implement on a game by game basis - history has proven that if they do this it simply won't get done half of the time. They also need to fix the voice-messaging issues - voice messages should be easy to send and listen to, even in-game. They need to unify and streamline these basic features.
The heart and soul of a good online gaming service is the ease at which one can play and communicate with friends and other players within video games. Features like Home make good services better, but without the basics in place and streamlined added bonuses like Home to very little to improve the online service's most important feature - playing games online with other people. Home itself, though, seems very cool.
This has always seemed like common sense to me... even when the news was first announced I was asking these questions:
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25431026&page=1
The issue isn't what's wrong with home, it's what wrong with PSN's basic functionality.
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