whats Sony going to do if Blu-Ray fails???

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IMO I highly doubt Blu-ray will take over as the norm over DVD. So when movie co. see they are spending too much money making movies that are not selling in a format and discontinue said format what will sony do then????

I live in a pretty big area and very few people are even talking about or know about the whole blu-ray thing anyway. It's expensive and if the only supporters are PS3 owners which make up what 15 million which is not that much.

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lol at poll
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apparently people are moving on to bluray faster than they did when DVD was first introduced.
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#4 jimm895
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Blu-Ray will be around for a long time. The reason is it has a lot of backing from it's developers and the movie industry has one of it's backers big in the movie buisiness.
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I prefer Blu ray over DVD, but I usually try to find deals because they are so expensive. My local FYE sells them for $40, so I usually get mine off of Amazon.
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IMO I highly doubt Blu-ray will take over as the norm over DVD. So when movie co. see they are spending too much money making movies that are not selling in a format and discontinue said format what will sony do then????

I live in a pretty big area and very few people are even talking about or know about the whole blu-ray thing anyway. It's expensive and if the only supporters are PS3 owners which make up what 15 million which is not that much.

xxyetixx

Blu ray is selling very well actually and its not just PS3 owners. I dont think people remember how DVD won. It did just overtake VHS, it was pushed by the movie studios just like blu ray. First DVD was advertised behind VHS, then it was advertised in front, then it got exclusive special features, then it got exclusive TV series's and movies only on DVD, and by that time the players were very very cheap.

The same thing is happening to blu ray. What you seem to think is only Sony is invested in Blu ray but thats not true. Sony isnt the only company invested in Blu ray. Its owned by a group of companies and all the major movie studios are invested on blu ray. The same people who are making DVD the popular format are supporting Blu ray so dont be surprised when they push Blu ray in front.

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lol at pollTMontana1004
Yea really. It is as if he took a question and just added random answers for you to pick that have no relation to the question.
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#8 crispytheone88
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I'm looking at getting a PS3, and I think Blu-Ray has a tough road ahead

Besides the fact that Toshiba seems hell bent on pushing regular DVD's to wher they can produce 960p images and still be compatable with old DVD players, and advanced upscaling using the Cell, yes the same one in the PS3, Sony sold the rights to Toshiba, ironic

The diffrence between Blu-Ray and upscaled DVD is not enough for most people to care, everyone I know that is not into electronic, is still buying DVD's and has ZERO intrest on upgrading in any way shape of form, I feel this is how the vast majority of people feel, look how popular the Wii is and its not even a hi-def machine

The advantages DVD had over VHS were numerous

Better picture

didn't get eaten and destroyed by malfunctioning player

does not degrade, and can last decades

smaller package

significantly better sound

ability to skip around the picture, view special fetures, and other goodies put on the disk

The advantages of Blu-Ray over DVD is a much shorter list

Better picture, DVD still look amazing when upscaled

Better sound, no one cares, everyone is listening to Ipods with seriously compressed audio

Some better menu and interactive features, but nothing as groundbreaking as DVD menu, and chapter skip, I remember fast forwarding trying to find a part in a movie

The there is Digital Downloads, I will probably always buy CD's and DVD for the rest of my life, it makes me feel better having a hard copy of the music and movies I paid for, But some people may not care, and may move into download movies, which could be a cheaper way of buying movies, no cost for the medium, or the printed box and materials

Blu-Ray has a tough road ahead

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#9 MadExponent
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Personally I think that digital downloads will end up killing off Bluray. I mean make no mistake, Bluray is the official HD format if you want a hard copy. I just think that buying games and movies online will become the norm. Bluray won't have a ten to fifteen year lifespan like DVD did, it just won't.
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#10 Franklinstein
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lol at pollTMontana1004

Seriously, wtf, I don't know how to answer.

My answer: I like blu-ray, I wish it was a bit cheaper. But the quality of movie truly looks better to me.

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apparently people are moving on to bluray faster than they did when DVD was first introduced.TheKonspiracy

PS2 acutally helped DVD a lot! The reason DVD took so long to take off is because it was expensive at first many people were very skeptical to the new format. I remember Laser Disc which didn't last long, and I know that was in the back of peoples minds when DVD came out.

Blu-Ray isn't that different from DVD and that's its problem. Way too many people don't care they just want to watch a movie. I know everyone knows someone that has thousands of VHS tapes and those people are still pissed they have to get DVD now.

I think Blu-ray will fail in the movie department, but it will stay for gaming and a storage medium. I'll admit it is great with all that space and everything but for movies why?

And were is the confusion in the poll. I would like to know how many people that own a PS3 buy blu ray movies.

yes you do

no you don't

$25 and up is too expensive and you'll wait and buy movies when they are cheaper

you don't care the format will fail

I don't understand what you can be confused by

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IMO I highly doubt Blu-ray will take over as the norm over DVD. So when movie co. see they are spending too much money making movies that are not selling in a format and discontinue said format what will sony do then????

I live in a pretty big area and very few people are even talking about or know about the whole blu-ray thing anyway. It's expensive and if the only supporters are PS3 owners which make up what 15 million which is not that much.

xxyetixx


Just wait till the HD era smashes us in the face.
The era of Blu-Ray will come after that... But until theres a price drop in HDTVs and those become norms, you wont see many people make the switch.
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#13 Tiefster
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I thought Blu Ray already won? Since it has no competition I don't see how it can fail once HD becomes more of the norm in more regions.
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[QUOTE="TheKonspiracy"]apparently people are moving on to bluray faster than they did when DVD was first introduced.xxyetixx

PS2 acutally helped DVD a lot! The reason DVD took so long to take off is because it was expensive at first many people were very skeptical to the new format. I remember Laser Disc which didn't last long, and I know that was in the back of peoples minds when DVD came out.

Blu-Ray isn't that different from DVD and that's its problem. Way too many people don't care they just want to watch a movie. I know everyone knows someone that has thousands of VHS tapes and those people are still pissed they have to get DVD now.

I think Blu-ray will fail in the movie department, but it will stay for gaming and a storage medium. I'll admit it is great with all that space and everything but for movies why?

And were is the confusion in the poll. I would like to know how many people that own a PS3 buy blu ray movies.

yes you do

no you don't

$25 and up is too expensive and you'll wait and buy movies when they are cheaper

you don't care the format will fail

I don't understand what you can be confused by



Because the first 2 are an answer to 'Do you have BD movies' and the second two are 'Why are/aren't you getting BD movies'
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Judging by the polls.

We could always look to the lemmings too make the PS3 look bad :lol:

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Personally I think that digital downloads will end up killing off Bluray. I mean make no mistake, Bluray is the official HD format if you want a hard copy. I just think that buying games and movies online will become the norm. Bluray won't have a ten to fifteen year lifespan like DVD did, it just won't.MadExponent

It's conceivable since Napster/Itunes pretty much killed off the record industry.

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How is BLu-Ray gonna fail? it's the only HD medium that's alive.... IT's not going to surpass DVD anytime soon but Sony don't care, it's gradually gaining sales as HD userbase grows.
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[QUOTE="xxyetixx"]

[QUOTE="TheKonspiracy"]apparently people are moving on to bluray faster than they did when DVD was first introduced.fluxorator

PS2 acutally helped DVD a lot! The reason DVD took so long to take off is because it was expensive at first many people were very skeptical to the new format. I remember Laser Disc which didn't last long, and I know that was in the back of peoples minds when DVD came out.

Blu-Ray isn't that different from DVD and that's its problem. Way too many people don't care they just want to watch a movie. I know everyone knows someone that has thousands of VHS tapes and those people are still pissed they have to get DVD now.

I think Blu-ray will fail in the movie department, but it will stay for gaming and a storage medium. I'll admit it is great with all that space and everything but for movies why?

And were is the confusion in the poll. I would like to know how many people that own a PS3 buy blu ray movies.

yes you do

no you don't

$25 and up is too expensive and you'll wait and buy movies when they are cheaper

you don't care the format will fail

I don't understand what you can be confused by



Because the first 2 are an answer to 'Do you have BD movies' and the second two are 'Why are/aren't you getting BD movies'

the last one answer is the only one that doesn't really apply I myself don't care and think it will fail.

Then the other answer is no you don't get the BD movies

and then there are basically the 2 answers of yes, yes you buy BD movies, or yes I do or want to buy movies they are just expensive right now and one people look for deals or two they are just waiting 'til BD movies are the same price of DVD.

Maybe I didn't not word it correctly or it's being interrepted differently then what I wanted, oh well I guess.

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How is BLu-Ray gonna fail? it's the only HD medium that's alive.... IT's not going to surpass DVD anytime soon but Sony don't care, it's gradually gaining sales as HD userbase grows.Kratos_OMEGA

i believe the question is, will blu-ray become mainstream in time to face the direct download threat?

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[QUOTE="MadExponent"]Personally I think that digital downloads will end up killing off Bluray. I mean make no mistake, Bluray is the official HD format if you want a hard copy. I just think that buying games and movies online will become the norm. Bluray won't have a ten to fifteen year lifespan like DVD did, it just won't.ragek1ll589

It's conceivable since Napster/Itunes pretty much killed off the record industry.

Downloading music and downloading HD movies are two very different things. The only connection that could download a HD movie in under 2 hours would be a a FiOS connection and thats a minority right there. DTD will replace physical copy renting but thats probably it as far as movies go.

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Judging by the polls.

We could always look to the lemmings too make the PS3 look bad :lol:

sam280992

No I would not consider myself I lemming, yes I own a 360, I also have a wii and would like to eventually get a PS3.

MGS4 looks like a good game, and the deal breaker for me will be the new Twisted Metal, which is when I'll probably get a PS3.

Right now all my friends have a 360 and I play online with them, that is major reason why I don't have a PS3 yet. I play mostly online.

But probably in 2009 i'll sell or trade in one of my 360's and get a PS3 if the price is right. I hate that it will have a feature that I'll never use i.e. BD movies. Which is one of the reasons I chose 360 in the first place, I wasn't forced into buying HD movie player.

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#22 ragek1ll589
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[QUOTE="ragek1ll589"]

[QUOTE="MadExponent"]Personally I think that digital downloads will end up killing off Bluray. I mean make no mistake, Bluray is the official HD format if you want a hard copy. I just think that buying games and movies online will become the norm. Bluray won't have a ten to fifteen year lifespan like DVD did, it just won't.Shadow2k6

It's conceivable since Napster/Itunes pretty much killed off the record industry.

Downloading music and downloading HD movies are two very different things. The only connection that could download a HD movie in under 2 hours would be a a FiOS connection and thats a minority right there. DTD will replace physical copy renting but thats probably it as far as movies go.

But I'm speaking in 10-15 years, where Internet connections will most likely be extremely quick and standard computer storage devices will be TB. Then I can see DD for movies being as popular as they are for music.

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IMO I highly doubt Blu-ray will take over as the norm over DVD. So when movie co. see they are spending too much money making movies that are not selling in a format and discontinue said format what will sony do then????

I live in a pretty big area and very few people are even talking about or know about the whole blu-ray thing anyway. It's expensive and if the only supporters are PS3 owners which make up what 15 million which is not that much.

xxyetixx
People said similar things when DVD was new. "I doubt DVD's will take over VHS tapes." When the time comes that having HDTV is similar to having a Color TV, Blu-ray will hit its stride. Mainly because it'll be necessary at that point, you'll STILL be able to watch DVDs, and on top of that, it'll be cheaper by then.
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IMO I highly doubt Blu-ray will take over as the norm over DVD. So when movie co. see they are spending too much money making movies that are not selling in a format and discontinue said format what will sony do then????

I live in a pretty big area and very few people are even talking about or know about the whole blu-ray thing anyway. It's expensive and if the only supporters are PS3 owners which make up what 15 million which is not that much.

xxyetixx

How can it fail when it already won the Format war? don't worry it won't fail, it can store 50GB, the tested limit is 100gb and the theoretical limit is 200gb, blu-ray FTW!!oh...and it has a cool name as well :P

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Let me set this thread on fire.

Blu Ray Sales Are Down..........

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9932311-7.html

kuu2

OMG !!! FIRE FIRE SOMEBODY HEEEEEEEEEEEEELP !!!

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[QUOTE="xxyetixx"]

IMO I highly doubt Blu-ray will take over as the norm over DVD. So when movie co. see they are spending too much money making movies that are not selling in a format and discontinue said format what will sony do then????

I live in a pretty big area and very few people are even talking about or know about the whole blu-ray thing anyway. It's expensive and if the only supporters are PS3 owners which make up what 15 million which is not that much.

Al3x_n90

How can it fail when it already won the Format war? don't worry it won't fail, it can store 50GB, the tested limit is 100gb and the theoretical limit is 200gb, blu-ray FTW!!oh...and it has a cool name as well :P

it won against another unproven format, the real battle is between DVDS and Digital distribution and whatever new formats come out in the future

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Blu ray is not going to fail. It has too many backers from the movie and entertainment industry. Its funny that people mention prices of the blu ray movies. How many of you remember when dvd's came out? I sure do. Movies where around $30 and $40 on them also. People also need to realize that digital distrubution is a long way off from being the norm. Aprox 73% of the US use the internet. Of those, only 42% have high speed internet. (thats only the US, think about other countries that arent as advanced technological) Think about it.. yes it is increasingly becoming something that people will do, but it will never have the widespread appeal that walking into a store and having a hard copy of what you own.
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Blu ray is not going to fail. It has too many backers from the movie and entertainment industry. Its funny that people mention prices of the blu ray movies. How many of you remember when dvd's came out? I sure do. Movies where around $30 and $40 on them also. People also need to realize that digital distrubution is a long way off from being the norm. Aprox 73% of the US use the internet. Of those, only 42% have high speed internet. (thats only the US, think about other countries that arent as advanced technological) Think about it.. yes it is increasingly becoming something that people will do, but it will never have the widespread appeal that walking into a store and having a hard copy of what you own.Dilrod

and how many americans have hdtvs?

tell that to the music industry, most people would rather download a movie instead of driving 20 minutes to a blockbuster wasting gas just to rent a movie

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people seem to forget that when the dvd first came out, the dvd player and dvd's cost just as much as the blu-ray player and blu-ray discs
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[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="xxyetixx"]

IMO I highly doubt Blu-ray will take over as the norm over DVD. So when movie co. see they are spending too much money making movies that are not selling in a format and discontinue said format what will sony do then????

I live in a pretty big area and very few people are even talking about or know about the whole blu-ray thing anyway. It's expensive and if the only supporters are PS3 owners which make up what 15 million which is not that much.

ParadiddleFill

How can it fail when it already won the Format war? don't worry it won't fail, it can store 50GB, the tested limit is 100gb and the theoretical limit is 200gb, blu-ray FTW!!oh...and it has a cool name as well :P

it won against another unproven format, the real battle is between DVDS and Digital distribution and whatever new formats come out in the future

All the movie companies are going with blu-ray now, i think this pretty much means a bright future for Blu-ray,The future is bright, the future is blu :lol:

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people seem to forget that when the dvd first came out, the dvd player and dvd's cost just as much as the blu-ray player and blu-ray discsULTIMATEZWARRIO

but you didnt need to buy a whole other tv set to play dvds which for a 42 inch lcd sharp will run you 2,000 dollars alone. when dvd players came out you just bought the standalone player and you were good to go.

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#33 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="xxyetixx"]

IMO I highly doubt Blu-ray will take over as the norm over DVD. So when movie co. see they are spending too much money making movies that are not selling in a format and discontinue said format what will sony do then????

I live in a pretty big area and very few people are even talking about or know about the whole blu-ray thing anyway. It's expensive and if the only supporters are PS3 owners which make up what 15 million which is not that much.

Al3x_n90

How can it fail when it already won the Format war? don't worry it won't fail, it can store 50GB, the tested limit is 100gb and the theoretical limit is 200gb, blu-ray FTW!!oh...and it has a cool name as well :P

it won against another unproven format, the real battle is between DVDS and Digital distribution and whatever new formats come out in the future

All the movie companies are going with blu-ray now, i think this pretty much means a bright future for Blu-ray,The future is bright, the future is blu :lol:

that doesnt guarantee success. Movie companys want to make money so why not re-release movies onto another format? The problem is that bluray sales is still way below that of dvds and if they dont pick up drastically in the next couple of years you will see alot of movie studios leave

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[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="xxyetixx"]

IMO I highly doubt Blu-ray will take over as the norm over DVD. So when movie co. see they are spending too much money making movies that are not selling in a format and discontinue said format what will sony do then????

I live in a pretty big area and very few people are even talking about or know about the whole blu-ray thing anyway. It's expensive and if the only supporters are PS3 owners which make up what 15 million which is not that much.

ParadiddleFill

How can it fail when it already won the Format war? don't worry it won't fail, it can store 50GB, the tested limit is 100gb and the theoretical limit is 200gb, blu-ray FTW!!oh...and it has a cool name as well :P

it won against another unproven format, the real battle is between DVDS and Digital distribution and whatever new formats come out in the future

All the movie companies are going with blu-ray now, i think this pretty much means a bright future for Blu-ray,The future is bright, the future is blu :lol:

that doesnt guarantee success. Movie companys want to make money so why not re-release movies onto another format? The problem is that bluray sales is still way below that of dvds and if they dont pick up drastically in the next couple of years you will see alot of movie studios leave

I'm sure they'll pick up, after all, it's HD baby, soon people will get along with blu-ray just like they did with DVDs :)

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[QUOTE="Dilrod"]Blu ray is not going to fail. It has too many backers from the movie and entertainment industry. Its funny that people mention prices of the blu ray movies. How many of you remember when dvd's came out? I sure do. Movies where around $30 and $40 on them also. People also need to realize that digital distrubution is a long way off from being the norm. Aprox 73% of the US use the internet. Of those, only 42% have high speed internet. (thats only the US, think about other countries that arent as advanced technological) Think about it.. yes it is increasingly becoming something that people will do, but it will never have the widespread appeal that walking into a store and having a hard copy of what you own.ParadiddleFill

and how many americans have hdtvs?

tell that to the music industry, most people would rather download a movie instead of driving 20 minutes to a blockbuster wasting gas just to rent a movie

About 40 million people own hi def tv's in America. "NPD reports that 45 percent of high-def owners are aware of Blu-ray, an increase from 35 percent in June 2007. Within that group, nine percent say they plan to buy a Blu-ray player in the next six months."

http://www.tvpredictions.com/npd060308.htm

Music is way different than movies. You can download a cd quality song in 30 seconds. You cant download a 1080p movie in a decent time frame. Renting will benefit from digital download way moreso than buying.

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[QUOTE="ULTIMATEZWARRIO"]people seem to forget that when the dvd first came out, the dvd player and dvd's cost just as much as the blu-ray player and blu-ray discsParadiddleFill

but you didnt need to buy a whole other tv set to play dvds which for a 42 inch lcd sharp will run you 2,000 dollars alone. when dvd players came out you just bought the standalone player and you were good to go.


Funny, I got my 1080p 42inch Sharp Aquas LCD for $1244 AFTER tax. If you are a patient shopper, you can get good deals.

http://electronics.pricegrabber.com/plasma-lcd-televisions/m/26497890/

Its well known that this is the hidef era. Even broadcast tv is going fully digital which is going to spike a huge push on hdtvs with digital tuners in them .

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I buy some blu-ray movies.
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

[QUOTE="Dilrod"]Blu ray is not going to fail. It has too many backers from the movie and entertainment industry. Its funny that people mention prices of the blu ray movies. How many of you remember when dvd's came out? I sure do. Movies where around $30 and $40 on them also. People also need to realize that digital distrubution is a long way off from being the norm. Aprox 73% of the US use the internet. Of those, only 42% have high speed internet. (thats only the US, think about other countries that arent as advanced technological) Think about it.. yes it is increasingly becoming something that people will do, but it will never have the widespread appeal that walking into a store and having a hard copy of what you own.Dilrod

and how many americans have hdtvs?

tell that to the music industry, most people would rather download a movie instead of driving 20 minutes to a blockbuster wasting gas just to rent a movie

About 40 million people own hi def tv's in America. "NPD reports that 45 percent of high-def owners are aware of Blu-ray, an increase from 35 percent in June 2007. Within that group, nine percent say they plan to buy a Blu-ray player in the next six months."

http://www.tvpredictions.com/npd060308.htm

Music is way different than movies. You can download a cd quality song in 30 seconds. You cant download a 1080p movie in a decent time frame. Renting will benefit from digital download way moreso than buying.

and that means there are way more people with high speed internet then hdtvs. In a few years most people will be able to download high quality movies in just the same time as music today. You didnt start out being able to download music in 30 seconds sometimes it took you 15 minutes but the technology progressed very quickly and the same thing will happen with movies

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We already know its not going to fail because it won the HD format war. Even if it did fail though, it would have little effect on Sony. They would still make games on Bluray anyways.
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[QUOTE="Dilrod"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

[QUOTE="Dilrod"]Blu ray is not going to fail. It has too many backers from the movie and entertainment industry. Its funny that people mention prices of the blu ray movies. How many of you remember when dvd's came out? I sure do. Movies where around $30 and $40 on them also. People also need to realize that digital distrubution is a long way off from being the norm. Aprox 73% of the US use the internet. Of those, only 42% have high speed internet. (thats only the US, think about other countries that arent as advanced technological) Think about it.. yes it is increasingly becoming something that people will do, but it will never have the widespread appeal that walking into a store and having a hard copy of what you own.ParadiddleFill

and how many americans have hdtvs?

tell that to the music industry, most people would rather download a movie instead of driving 20 minutes to a blockbuster wasting gas just to rent a movie

About 40 million people own hi def tv's in America. "NPD reports that 45 percent of high-def owners are aware of Blu-ray, an increase from 35 percent in June 2007. Within that group, nine percent say they plan to buy a Blu-ray player in the next six months."

http://www.tvpredictions.com/npd060308.htm

Music is way different than movies. You can download a cd quality song in 30 seconds. You cant download a 1080p movie in a decent time frame. Renting will benefit from digital download way moreso than buying.

and that means there are way more people with high speed internet then hdtvs. In a few years most people will be able to download high quality movies in just the same time as music today. You didnt start out being able to download music in 30 seconds sometimes it took you 15 minutes but the technology progressed very quickly and the same thing will happen with movies

And yet music is something that when downloaded is taken on the go with the biggest percentage of people. Movies will not be. Also it has been proven that owning a hard copy of something is the preferred method of "ownership". HDTV sales are predicted to double and maybe even triple over the next year as the technology is embraced and prices stabalize. I now see 32inch hd tvs for less than $500 that get good reveiws. Digital download will be a good medium for rental, but never for owning. What happens when your digital download device breaks or messes up? Do you want to be the person to either have to pay for all them again, or take the time to do so? Exactly why its going to be many years before its the norm. I can see it being the norm, but not for at least 15 years or so based on the technology today.

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Will it become mainstream? It could because no medium (DVD) lasts forever. However it WILL take awhile for it to start off (if it ever starts off) for full effect of BD you need an HDTV, not to mention to take full effect you need a 1080P which both require much $$$, not to mention the price of the BD disks. Also with the bad shape of the country (high food/gas prices) in the mix it's not going to become mainstream for a very long time. Also there was an article here on gamespot that video games are outselling DVD movies. It will take awhile for it to start off by the the time it does I can see faster internet and DD starting to become more and more popular.
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Dilrod"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

[QUOTE="Dilrod"]Blu ray is not going to fail. It has too many backers from the movie and entertainment industry. Its funny that people mention prices of the blu ray movies. How many of you remember when dvd's came out? I sure do. Movies where around $30 and $40 on them also. People also need to realize that digital distrubution is a long way off from being the norm. Aprox 73% of the US use the internet. Of those, only 42% have high speed internet. (thats only the US, think about other countries that arent as advanced technological) Think about it.. yes it is increasingly becoming something that people will do, but it will never have the widespread appeal that walking into a store and having a hard copy of what you own.Dilrod

and how many americans have hdtvs?

tell that to the music industry, most people would rather download a movie instead of driving 20 minutes to a blockbuster wasting gas just to rent a movie

About 40 million people own hi def tv's in America. "NPD reports that 45 percent of high-def owners are aware of Blu-ray, an increase from 35 percent in June 2007. Within that group, nine percent say they plan to buy a Blu-ray player in the next six months."

http://www.tvpredictions.com/npd060308.htm

Music is way different than movies. You can download a cd quality song in 30 seconds. You cant download a 1080p movie in a decent time frame. Renting will benefit from digital download way moreso than buying.

and that means there are way more people with high speed internet then hdtvs. In a few years most people will be able to download high quality movies in just the same time as music today. You didnt start out being able to download music in 30 seconds sometimes it took you 15 minutes but the technology progressed very quickly and the same thing will happen with movies

And yet music is something that when downloaded is taken on the go with the biggest percentage of people. Movies will not be. Also it has been proven that owning a hard copy of something is the preferred method of "ownership". HDTV sales are predicted to double and maybe even triple over the next year as the technology is embraced and prices stabalize. I now see 32inch hd tvs for less than $500 that get good reveiws. Digital download will be a good medium for rental, but never for owning. What happens when your digital download device breaks or messes up? Do you want to be the person to either have to pay for all them again, or take the time to do so? Exactly why its going to be many years before its the norm. I can see it being the norm, but not for at least 15 years or so based on the technology today.

why would you want to carry a movie around? the point of a movie is to sit down and watch it. With music you just need to listen to it which means you can pretty much listen to music in any situation. Movies are meant to be watched at home. perfect means for digital distribution. Also your records are stored in a database so if you ever erase your files you can easily redownload them without paying for it again sort of like the way xbox live works. I would think that losing or breaking your hard copy is much more annoying because once its lost or broken thats it you have to rebuy it all over again. If you really believe that digital distro is going to take 15 years to become popular you really have very little knowledge of the progression of technology.

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It wont fail though,

DVD wont last forever, its silly to think so. Many people are getting HD TV's now die to their falling price so they will want to be able to watch HD films In the UK you can now get HD channels for free so people will start to expect more. The transition from standard definition to HD has already started.

And as blu ray technology gets cheaper people will start to buy blu ray players and DVD will end. It will happen withing a few years at the most.

People dont want standard def now, just like decades ago when people were tired of black and white tv. Blu ray is now in an excellent postition to become the new standard disk.

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It will take years before Blu-Ray even comes close to being mainstream. All of these huge HDTV's you can't even tell the difference between DVD and Blu-Ray.
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why would you want to carry a movie around? the point of a movie is to sit down and watch it. With music you just need to listen to it which means you can pretty much listen to music in any situation. Movies are meant to be watched at home. perfect means for digital distribution. Also your records are stored in a database so if you ever erase your files you can easily redownload them without paying for it again sort of like the way xbox live works. I would think that losing or breaking your hard copy is much more annoying because once its lost or broken thats it you have to rebuy it all over again. If you really believe that digital distro is going to take 15 years to become popular you really have very little knowledge of the progression of technology.

ParadiddleFill

You have kind of proven my point without even knowing it. Of course you dont carry movies around. They are bigger and longer files to download than songs. With the technology that is currently available, and also what people are currently wanting to use (heck, quite a few people dont even want to stop using dial up) http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/04/most-dial-up-users-dont-want-to-upgrade-their-connections/

Records stored on a database that can that easily be redownloaded just like xbox live huh? Well in theory thats all good, but in reality..

http://www.breakitdownblog.com/xbox-360-drm-cant-handle-rrod/

Digital download is the future, I cant spell that out enough, but it will be a long time before it overtakes hard copy media.

I like how you attack my knowledge of anything without even knowing me. I seem to have struck a chord with you. I worked at Dell up until January, and have seen the progression of technology. Yes, the technology is there, but it is nowhere near mainstream enough to catch on to what you are thinking it is going to be. At least not for many years to come as most people it is just impossible to have the technology available to them for a long time.

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It wont fail though,

DVD wont last forever, its silly to think so. Many people are getting HD TV's now die to their falling price so they will want to be able to watch HD films In the UK you can now get HD channels for free so people will start to expect more. The transition from standard definition to HD has already started.

And as blu ray technology gets cheaper people will start to buy blu ray players and DVD will end. It will happen withing a few years at the most.

People dont want standard def now, just like decades ago when people were tired of black and white tv. Blu ray is now in an excellent postition to become the new standard disk.

NinjaMunkey01

color is a big leap from black and white bluray isnt a very big leap from dvds

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#47 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

why would you want to carry a movie around? the point of a movie is to sit down and watch it. With music you just need to listen to it which means you can pretty much listen to music in any situation. Movies are meant to be watched at home. perfect means for digital distribution. Also your records are stored in a database so if you ever erase your files you can easily redownload them without paying for it again sort of like the way xbox live works. I would think that losing or breaking your hard copy is much more annoying because once its lost or broken thats it you have to rebuy it all over again. If you really believe that digital distro is going to take 15 years to become popular you really have very little knowledge of the progression of technology.

Dilrod

You have kind of proven my point without even knowing it. Of course you dont carry movies around. They are bigger and longer files to download than songs. With the technology that is currently available, and also what people are currently wanting to use (heck, quite a few people dont even want to stop using dial up) http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/04/most-dial-up-users-dont-want-to-upgrade-their-connections/

Records stored on a database that can that easily be redownloaded just like xbox live huh? Well in theory thats all good, but in reality..

http://www.breakitdownblog.com/xbox-360-drm-cant-handle-rrod/

Digital download is the future, I cant spell that out enough, but it will be a long time before it overtakes hard copy media.

I like how you attack my knowledge of anything without even knowing me. I seem to have struck a chord with you. I worked at Dell up until January, and have seen the progression of technology. Yes, the technology is there, but it is nowhere near mainstream enough to catch on to what you are thinking it is going to be. At least not for many years to come as most people it is just impossible to have the technology available to them for a long time.

if you actually read your own link you would know that live doesnt work that way. Most people who had to replace their xbox 360's have commented that they still were able to download their content for free. Maybe you should actually use live before reading some random blogs and posting them as facts. The fact is that if your records are stored in a database and you have an account even if your hardware is destroyed and you buy a new one you could still redownload your content for free.

Just because you worked for dell doesnt mean you know how technology is going to progress. The gap of technology gets shorter and shorter. About five years ago very few people had broadband now millions of american homes have them.

its also funny how your article that says 62 percent of dial up users dont want to switch to broadband stating that price is a big factor yet on the other hand you are quick to make the assumption that those people will go out and purchase a thousand dollar plus tv set

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WHAT IF the 360 becomes a giant death machine and eats everyone ahhhhhhh
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[QUOTE="Stan Glasgow"]Looking ahead, you're only just getting into Blu-ray. How do you see the future penetration of the format compared with DVD? Glasgow: That's a good question. DVD took 10 years to really penetrate. We're now in the second year of Blu-ray. My guess is it will probably happen a little quicker in terms of penetration. The pricing is already coming down more quickly than DVD came down. I don't think it will take as long as 10 years, but I don't think it will penetrate to the same percentage because there's a couple of conflicting forces. Certainly, people that want the best picture are going to want it, without a doubt. People that are OK with upconverting DVD players, which is somewhere close to 600, 650, maybe 700 (lines of resolution)--that's not a bad picture either. So a lot of people may be happy with an upconverting DVD player. And (Blu-ray) may not turn over, it may not penetrate to the same extent, because (DVD) was such a big medium change from tape. But I see it being the major format. It's won the war, that's done. Now it's a matter of: Can we provide an exceptional experience? Can we provide a social part? And can we involve the overall community in, let's say, designing applets and coming up with new things that we can't even think of today?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/cnet/20080703/tc_cnet/830110784399831677

So basically not even Sony's head of Electronics in the US thinks Blu-ray will fully replace DVD.

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Why would you have a HDTV and no HD movies???? No Blue-Ray will not fail.