whats the differences between PSN trophies and LIVE achievements?

i hear people fight about such things. I mean whats the big difference? i just earn Achievements/Trophies just for fun, i dont care about platinum or such i just want to make different challenges for fun so i can play longer... im gonna make a poll and go ahead and tell us what do you think about Achiev/Trophies

Good Day

Fun challenges with my real life friends. Who can get the first Platinum for Uncharted or first 1000 points in Star Wars or whatever.

I got 39 Platinums, and 100,000 Gamerscore from these crazy challenges so far. I like the concept of the Platinum better overall, but the 360 gets props for having achievements since the beginning. Overall, they do they nothing but are fun with friends.

The trophy levels are a better idea then flat out points. Getting a Platinum trophy on PS3 is much more compelling then trying to get 1000 GS on the 360 imo.

They're pretty much the same as far as functionality, except Achievements are integrated in every 360 game. Trophies have been standard since early 2009.Achievements only count points, while trophies counts your level as well as number of trophies. Trophies are like a meta game really.

They both serve the same purpose, but I like the presentation of Trophies more. Its easier to discern what a user has. Plus they have a little more depth to them.

The trophy levels are a better idea then flat out points. Getting a Platinum trophy on PS3 is much more compelling then trying to get 1000 GS on the 360 imo.

zarshack

i liked what solidty said actually, like me and my friend tried to finish spec ops on MW2. But then we so all the trophies for MW2 (which was pretty easy) then we tried to finish it on veteran and such and actually both of us got the platinum trophy for MW2. Like i dont like people saying im better then you just because he got 200 trophies and such sh*t

PS3 - 4 types of trophies. Bronze, silver, gold, platinum. Basically there's only 1 platinum and that's getting all the other trophies.

360 - gamerscore. Basically you get points per achievement. Designers can allow small achievements or large ones based on difficulty. Also the 360 now has avatar awards which unlock stuff for your avatar... not really achievements persay, but along the same lines.

I like the idea of trophies, but sony effed them all up trying to copy achievements instead of coming up a unique system on their own.

PS3 - 4 types of trophies. Bronze, silver, gold, platinum. Basically there's only 1 platinum and that's getting all the other trophies.

360 - gamerscore. Basically you get points per achievement. Designers can allow small achievements or large ones based on difficulty. Also the 360 now has avatar awards which unlock stuff for your avatar... not really achievements persay, but along the same lines.

I like the idea of trophies, but sony effed them all up trying to copy achievements instead of coming up a unique system on their own.

jrhawk42

You forgot that PS3 Trophies have been offering Home items and outfits, as well as Themes and pics when you unlock certain trophies in certain games, just to let you know. I would know, I have about 2500+ Trophies, and 100,000 Gamerscore, so I know all there is to know about these things. The game I got avatar stuff was L4D2, which was cool...but yeah, Home outfits were available before any of that.

[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

PS3 - 4 types of trophies. Bronze, silver, gold, platinum. Basically there's only 1 platinum and that's getting all the other trophies.

360 - gamerscore. Basically you get points per achievement. Designers can allow small achievements or large ones based on difficulty. Also the 360 now has avatar awards which unlock stuff for your avatar... not really achievements persay, but along the same lines.

I like the idea of trophies, but sony effed them all up trying to copy achievements instead of coming up a unique system on their own.

SolidTy

You forgot that PS3 Trophies have been offering Home items and outfits, as well as Themes and pics when you unlock certain trophies in certain games, just to let you know. I would know, I have about 2500+ Trophies, and 100,000 Gamerscore, so I know all there is to know about these things. The game I got avatar stuff was L4D2, which was cool...but yeah, Home outfits were available before any of that.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

PS3 - 4 types of trophies. Bronze, silver, gold, platinum. Basically there's only 1 platinum and that's getting all the other trophies.

360 - gamerscore. Basically you get points per achievement. Designers can allow small achievements or large ones based on difficulty. Also the 360 now has avatar awards which unlock stuff for your avatar... not really achievements persay, but along the same lines.

I like the idea of trophies, but sony effed them all up trying to copy achievements instead of coming up a unique system on their own.

zarshack

You forgot that PS3 Trophies have been offering Home items and outfits, as well as Themes and pics when you unlock certain trophies in certain games, just to let you know. I would know, I have about 2500+ Trophies, and 100,000 Gamerscore, so I know all there is to know about these things. The game I got avatar stuff was L4D2, which was cool...but yeah, Home outfits were available before any of that.

He has the right to! He makes me look like a kid with only 5 plats =[

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

PS3 - 4 types of trophies. Bronze, silver, gold, platinum. Basically there's only 1 platinum and that's getting all the other trophies.

360 - gamerscore. Basically you get points per achievement. Designers can allow small achievements or large ones based on difficulty. Also the 360 now has avatar awards which unlock stuff for your avatar... not really achievements persay, but along the same lines.

I like the idea of trophies, but sony effed them all up trying to copy achievements instead of coming up a unique system on their own.

zarshack

You forgot that PS3 Trophies have been offering Home items and outfits, as well as Themes and pics when you unlock certain trophies in certain games, just to let you know. I would know, I have about 2500+ Trophies, and 100,000 Gamerscore, so I know all there is to know about these things. The game I got avatar stuff was L4D2, which was cool...but yeah, Home outfits were available before any of that.

All that hard work I did just for SW :P ...and I have to admit, SW is the most fun place to let folks know about it.

Plus I have 100,000 Gamerscore and 2500+ trophies, I have to tell someone. :lol:

No really, it's just lols on my end. I just love threads about this topic, it's my time to shine. :P

All that hard work I did just for SW :P ...and I have to admit, SW is the most fun place to let folks know about it.

Plus I have 100,000 Gamerscore and 2500+ trophies, I have to tell someone. :lol:

No really, it's just lols on my end. I just love threads about this topic, it's my time to shine. :P

SolidTy

The trophy levels are a better idea then flat out points. Getting a Platinum trophy on PS3 is much more compelling then trying to get 1000 GS on the 360 imo.

zarshack

I like both the achievement and trophy systems. They're pretty much the same but I slightly prefer the trophy system, I like the whole levelling thing and I find the platinum trophy slightly more rewarding than getting 1K gamerscore for a game (even though I've only got 1).

Fun challenges with my real life friends. Who can get the first Platinum for Uncharted or whatever.

I got 39 Platinums, and 100,000 Gamerscore from these crazy challenges so far. I like the concept of the Platinum better overall, but the 360 gets props for having achievements since the beginning. Overall, they do they nothing but are fun with friends.

SolidTy

[QUOTE="zarshack"]

The trophy levels are a better idea then flat out points. Getting a Platinum trophy on PS3 is much more compelling then trying to get 1000 GS on the 360 imo.

bobbleheadrogue

The trophy levels are a better idea then flat out points. Getting a Platinum trophy on PS3 is much more compelling then trying to get 1000 GS on the 360 imo.

[QUOTE="bobbleheadrogue"][QUOTE="zarshack"]

The trophy levels are a better idea then flat out points. Getting a Platinum trophy on PS3 is much more compelling then trying to get 1000 GS on the 360 imo.

savagetwinkie

Fun challenges with my real life friends. Who can get the first Platinum for Uncharted or whatever.

I got 39 Platinums, and 100,000 Gamerscore from these crazy challenges so far. I like the concept of the Platinum better overall, but the 360 gets props for having achievements since the beginning. Overall, they do they nothing but are fun with friends.

SolidTy

Agreed, getting trophies and achievements is great fun and trying to get a Platinum is awesome.

I too prefer the Platinum trophy since you it shows that you've gained every single trophy in a certain game whereas your gamerscore doesn't but I'm guessing that there's a way to check what achievements a person has anyway so it's cool.

Trophies and achievements are identical and I think both are great, they add replay value and it's fun to compare them with friends.

[QUOTE="NoobisMaxcimus"]

[QUOTE="Quintinius"]

The thing is though is that you've had 100,000 gamerscore for ages. I remember last summer (roughly) you had about 93,000 GP. In the time since you've only gotten 7,000 GP. That's very little points, especially compared to how many you had. At one point you even went months without playing any 360 games. Your gamercard just showed that the last game you played was C&C. IMO, this all means that you've been playing PS3 far more and are naturally more biased towards it. I wouldn't mind that so much exceptthat you put this facade on to cover it. You claim you're a completly neutral gamer who just wants to enjoy gaming but so many times I've seen a PS3 fanboy poke it's head out. Just admit it already.

Richymisiak

Oh snap, someone just called out SolidTy for what a bunch of people were thinking.

took long enough

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[QUOTE="NoobisMaxcimus"]

Oh snap, someone just called out SolidTy for what a bunch of people were thinking.

Anjunaddict

took long enough

The trophy levels are a better idea then flat out points. Getting a Platinum trophy on PS3 is much more compelling then trying to get 1000 GS on the 360 imo.

zarshack

Well most importantly, one goes "Bling" and one goes "Bloop". Floppy_Jim

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Well most importantly, one goes "Bling" and one goes "Bloop". RTUUMM

PS3 - 4 types of trophies. Bronze, silver, gold, platinum. Basically there's only 1 platinum and that's getting all the other trophies.

360 - gamerscore. Basically you get points per achievement. Designers can allow small achievements or large ones based on difficulty. Also the 360 now has avatar awards which unlock stuff for your avatar... not really achievements persay, but along the same lines.

I like the idea of trophies, but sony effed them all up trying to copy achievements instead of coming up a unique system on their own.

jrhawk42

Live achievements cost people money to obtain them, PSN trophies don't.

Live achievements cost people money to obtain them, PSN trophies don't.

Bigboi500

I don't really care about gamerscore, but there's nothing more satisfying than seeing "Achievement Unlocked" and the sound it makes :P

Also, I'm not even sure if this comes with PSN trophies, but I think it's cool that you can unlock Avatar stuff by getting achievements.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Live achievements cost people money to obtain them, PSN trophies don't.

Richymisiak

About five bank accounts, three ounces and two vehicles.

Both are the same thing, I mean Exactly the same.

Find a new multiplat at least a 2008 release, check the requirements for each achievement/trophy and you'll see they are the same.

Differences are Acheivements are point values, where trophies are more like ranks or types (Bronze, Silver, Gold)

Trophies for most games offer a platinum for earning all other trophies (that come with the game meaning DLC trophies are extras)

Achievements are a total sum of all acheivements for each game (giving each player a total gamerscore), Trophies give the player different levels where Bronze, Silver, Gold and Platinum each count more towards that level, I think bronze = 1, silver = 2, gold = 3, and platinum = 6. (meaning it will take 6 bronze trophies to equal the value of 1 platinum)

Every Retail 360 Game has Achievements, I think, and Most PS3 games have them (2008 releases to present) but not all.

Other than that, however, they are the same.

they are the same

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Fun challenges with my real life friends. Who can get the first Platinum for Uncharted or whatever.

I got 39 Platinums, and 100,000 Gamerscore from these crazy challenges so far. I like the concept of the Platinum better overall, but the 360 gets props for having achievements since the beginning. Overall, they do they nothing but are fun with friends.

MizFitAwesome

I do and I did. That's why my gamerscore and PSN account are high, because we do challenges on both. They gave up on 360 when I hit 100,000+, and moved to conquer me on PS3, that's all.

[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

PS3 - 4 types of trophies. Bronze, silver, gold, platinum. Basically there's only 1 platinum and that's getting all the other trophies.

360 - gamerscore. Basically you get points per achievement. Designers can allow small achievements or large ones based on difficulty. Also the 360 now has avatar awards which unlock stuff for your avatar... not really achievements persay, but along the same lines.

I like the idea of trophies, but sony effed them all up trying to copy achievements instead of coming up a unique system on their own.

SolidTy

You forgot that PS3 Trophies have been offering Home items and outfits, as well as Themes and pics when you unlock certain trophies in certain games, just to let you know. I would know, I have about 2500+ Trophies, and 100,000 Gamerscore, so I know all there is to know about these things. The game I got avatar stuff was L4D2, which was cool...but yeah, Home outfits were available before any of that.

Trophies>>Achievements.

At least with trophies you can tell theres ones that were actually difficult to get, unlike with gamerscore, where your just given tons for playing a game.

You get almost 500 just from beating halo 3 on normal, like its some accomplishment or something.

They essentially serve the same purpose. So they're in the same category, but on different systems.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="zarshack"]I love how you always manage to bring up your trophies/gamerscore in conversations :P

Quintinius

All that hard work I did just for SW :P ...and I have to admit, SW is the most fun place to let folks know about it.

Plus I have 100,000 Gamerscore and 2500+ trophies, I have to tell someone. :lol:

No really, it's just lols on my end. I just love threads about this topic, it's my time to shine. :P

The thing is though is that you've had 100,000 gamerscore for ages. I remember last summer (roughly) you had about 93,000 GP. In the time since you've only gotten 7,000 GP. That's very little points, especially compared to how many you had. At one point you even went months without playing any 360 games. Your gamercard just showed that the last game you played was C&C. IMO, this all means that you've been playing PS3 far more and are naturally more biased towards it. I wouldn't mind that so much exceptthat you put this facade on to cover it. You claim you're a completly neutral gamer who just wants to enjoy gaming but so many times I've seen a PS3 fanboy poke it's head out. Just admit it already.

Only 7,000 within a year you say? That's more than I have altogether since May of 2006 (then again, my situation is a bit complicated and unique). So, he's biased towards the PS3 because of the amount of 360 he's played within the last year? That's literally one of the worst accusations I've seen on this board :?. I guess that initial 93,000 gamerscore proves he was biased toward the 360 at that point?

What's more important I think, is how one feels about gaming and come across as a gamer. It's obvious SolidTy likes both the PS3 and 360 and has frankly invested more time into his 360 than many people who point this non-issue out.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

You forgot that PS3 Trophies have been offering Home items and outfits, as well as Themes and pics when you unlock certain trophies in certain games, just to let you know. I would know, I have about 2500+ Trophies, and 100,000+ Gamerscore, so I know all there is to know about these things. The game I got avatar stuff was L4D2, which was cool...but yeah, Home outfits were available before any of that.

Zar - "I love how you always manage to bring up your trophies/gamerscore in conversations :P"

All that hard work I did just for SW :P ...and I have to admit, SW is the most fun place to let folks know about it.

Plus I have 100,000 Gamerscore and 2500+ trophies, I have to tell someone. :lol:

No really, it's just lols on my end. I just love threads about this topic, it's my time to shine. :P

Quintinius

The thing is though is that you've had 100,000 gamerscore for ages. I remember last summer (roughly) you had about 93,000 GP. In the time since you've only gotten 7,000 GP. That's very little points, especially compared to how many you had. At one point you even went months without playing any 360 games. Your gamercard just showed that the last game you played was C&C. IMO, this all means that you've been playing PS3 far more and are naturally more biased towards it. I wouldn't mind that so much exceptthat you put this facade on to cover it. You claim you're a completly neutral gamer who just wants to enjoy gaming but so many times I've seen fanboy poke it's head out. Just admit it already.

Actually, I have more than 100,000, lol, hence the 100,0000 +. Secondly, I don't get Gamerscore for maxed out gamerscore games I play all the time on LIVE like Marvel Vs. Capcom 2, Street Fighter, GeoW2, etc...so when I play those games and more, my score is not going to move up. lol. I have been playing the Halo Reach Beta, but since I don't get Gamerscore I better watch out for guys looking at my wonderful score. I also have a Wii, a different 360 account, and a PS3 to enjoy, lol. :lol:

Call me when you get a high gamerscore and high PSN account. I love your 124 trophies.:roll: BTW, my gamercard is on private, so you have no idea what I've recently played, however, I do play C&C with friends all the time. But I don't get gamerscore for that...uh oh. I shouldn't play my game collection because my gamerscore is being spyed on?;)

As far as admitting anything, all I see in these threads about gamerscore is jealous 360 fans that get angry at my awesomeness. Get on my posts when you detect whatever it is you are trying to detect. Your post above just jumps aggressively at me for being awesome. That's what I see. What about my post above was wrong? Nothing, so you made it personal. The anger I see here in SW is usually guys that either have no PS3, or hardly use their PS3 with almost no trophies and over 10,000 Gamerscore, or just angry gamers that want to knock me down a peg because it's SW or whatever...whereas I have a giant Gamerscore they cry at due to my awesomeness. I have a level 18 PSN account due to awesomeness. True story. This isn't the first thread filled with wonderful spies that try so hard. :P

What I have accomplished with both my accounts no one in SW has done with both, and there is no problems with me strutting my stuff in a thread about that topic. What's the problem? It's jealousy, I know it. Go ahead and roll the eyes, but that's what I see. Haters are going to hate, drinking some haterade.

I am an active 360 gamer as I pay for Xbox Live GOLD since the beginning (Xbox days), and I'm not letting my gold go to waste...besides, I have a real life to worry about in addition to gaming no matter how hard you spy.

I guess I can't play Street Fighter now, since I get no more gamerscore for it in MP matches...:( What am I to do? Let my 360 game collection rot because it doesn't get me any gamerscore?
Can I help it if my friends challenge me to a PS3 or Wii game? Oh no! That means no Gamerscore! But what about the Xbox spys? I guess they will be unhappy.:(

I play MGS4, MvC2, and Street Fighter games on PS3 from time to time as well, and I get no Trophies from those either...Maybe I shouldn't play my PS3 games now? I get no Trophies?:( Oh No!

My cousin has had a 360 since 2005 like me, and guess what, his gamerscore is almost at 19.000...I guess he doesn't play the 360 as much as you'd assume...but you'd be wrong. He has that thing on almost every day, but he loves certain games and gets no gamerscore for playing the games he loves, Halo 3, GeoW, GeoW2, COD, etc. He has those games maxed, but keeps playing them. He is going to be sad when I tell him what that means.

Also, When I got 3 RROD's and E74 once, I couldn't play my 360...does that mean I should report that to you? When My 360 went down?

You need to keep in mind I have other consoles to play, friends to compete with on a variety of consoles/PC, and a life to live.;)

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="zarshack"]I love how you always manage to bring up your trophies/gamerscore in conversations :P

Quintinius

All that hard work I did just for SW :P ...and I have to admit, SW is the most fun place to let folks know about it.

Plus I have 100,000 Gamerscore and 2500+ trophies, I have to tell someone. :lol:

No really, it's just lols on my end. I just love threads about this topic, it's my time to shine. :P

The thing is though is that you've had 100,000 gamerscore for ages. I remember last summer (roughly) you had about 93,000 GP. In the time since you've only gotten 7,000 GP. That's very little points, especially compared to how many you had. At one point you even went months without playing any 360 games. Your gamercard just showed that the last game you played was C&C. IMO, this all means that you've been playing PS3 far more and are naturally more biased towards it. I wouldn't mind that so much exceptthat you put this facade on to cover it. You claim you're a completly neutral gamer who just wants to enjoy gaming but so many times I've seen a PS3 fanboy poke it's head out. Just admit it already.