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#1 NielsNL
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The more the hype grows, the more I get the idea that the Halo 3 hype is more of a media thing than a justified joyful expectation. Can anyone please tell me what it is that this game offers that disctincts it from al the other FPS coming out nowadays? As I see it a (semi-)FPSlike MP3:C offers much more in terms of things that haven't been done before and therefore deserves a hype lika Halo's more than Halo 3 does.
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The hype this year is actually over the top no halo befor has had this much hyp so ignore it or join it its not going to go away one more week and it will all be over.

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The conclusion to the Master Chief storyline. It'll hopefully beat out Halo:CE's single player (at least that is what's anticipated).
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#4 Dopemonk736
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Halo 3 has no innovation thread no. 1378527
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Halo 3 is the sequel to two of the finest FPS's ever created.

(haters check gamerankings.com general consensus >>>>>>>>>>>> you)

Halo 3 will complete the epic storyline and Bungie has thrown in a bunch of great features for the multiplayer portion. Bungie seems to have built on what made the first two so great.

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i agree. This halo 3 hype has very little to do with the game.
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#7 SaintBlaze
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Halo 3 has no innovation thread no. 1378527Dopemonk736

Where did he say that Halo 3 has no innovation? :|

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It is the end in the trilogy of the most popular Xbox game ever.
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Im tierd of explaining the features, just seach.
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2007 GOTY.
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[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"]Halo 3 has no innovation thread no. 1378527SaintBlaze

Where did he say that Halo 3 has no innovation? :|

The more the hype grows, the more I get the idea that the Halo 3 hype is more of a media thing than a justified joyful expectation. Can anyone please tell me what it is that this game offers that disctincts it from al the other FPS coming out nowadays? As I see it a (semi-)FPSlike MP3:C offers much more in terms of things that haven't been done before and therefore deserves a hype lika Halo's more than Halo 3 does.

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[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"]Halo 3 has no innovation thread no. 1378527SaintBlaze

Where did he say that Halo 3 has no innovation? :|

Right, that's not what I said. More that the magnitude of the hype is reaching proportions which don't do this game (possibly not even any game) justice since it isn't something that is soinnovating that the whole (gaming)world is missing out if they don't play this. The media hype almost gives you this idea, but the fact is that Halo is just another FPS of which many good and lesser have been and will be released without such a craze of media attention and marketing. Right, the story may be good, but the only people who know that are the people who bought the first two Halo's and they'll probably buy Halo 3 anyway. Tell me: what is the justification for the media hype?

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maybe 360 might sell good from this game. 360 only moved a millon units this year
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[QUOTE="SaintBlaze"]

[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"]Halo 3 has no innovation thread no. 1378527Dopemonk736

Where did he say that Halo 3 has no innovation? :|

The more the hype grows, the more I get the idea that the Halo 3 hype is more of a media thing than a justified joyful expectation. Can anyone please tell me what it is that this game offers that disctincts it from al the other FPS coming out nowadays? As I see it a (semi-)FPSlike MP3:C offers much more in terms of things that haven't been done before and therefore deserves a hype lika Halo's more than Halo 3 does.

But he didn't say it wasn't innovative at all. :?

He was asking a simple question.

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#16 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="SaintBlaze"]

[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"]Halo 3 has no innovation thread no. 1378527NielsNL

Where did he say that Halo 3 has no innovation? :|

Right, that's not what I said. More that the magnitude of the hype is reaching proportions which don't do this game (possibly not even any game) justice since it isn't something that is soinnovating that the whole (gaming)world is missing out if they don't play this. The media hype almost gives you this idea, but the fact is that Halo is just another FPS of which many good and lesser have been and will be released without such a craze of media attention and marketing. Right, the story may be good, but the only people who know that are the people who bought the first two Halo's and they'll probably buy Halo 3 anyway. Tell me: what is the justification for the media hype?

A game doesnt have to be mind blowingly revolutionary to be a great and fun game that everyone should play.

Anyway like I said search for the halo 3 features because Im tierd of explaining them all.

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The ending of one of the Xbox's greatest game trilogies.
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#18 Dopemonk736
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[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"][QUOTE="SaintBlaze"]

[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"]Halo 3 has no innovation thread no. 1378527SaintBlaze

Where did he say that Halo 3 has no innovation? :|

The more the hype grows, the more I get the idea that the Halo 3 hype is more of a media thing than a justified joyful expectation. Can anyone please tell me what it is that this game offers that disctincts it from al the other FPS coming out nowadays? As I see it a (semi-)FPSlike MP3:C offers much more in terms of things that haven't been done before and therefore deserves a hype lika Halo's more than Halo 3 does.

But he didn't say it wasn't innovative at all. :?

He was asking a simple question.

hmm I see what you are saying.

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the Forge
saved films
bungie reccoments
matchmaking
custom gametypes
4 player co op
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The hype is coming from the fact that Halo 1 and 2 were the most popular Xbox games.

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#21 Spartan070
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It's not always about "doing something that hasn't been done before." Often it's simply about a near-perfect harmony of everything coming together to equal something that's collectively amazing.
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The more the hype grows, the more I get the idea that the Halo 3 hype is more of a media thing than a justified joyful expectation. Can anyone please tell me what it is that this game offers that disctincts it from al the other FPS coming out nowadays? As I see it a (semi-)FPSlike MP3:C offers much more in terms of things that haven't been done before and therefore deserves a hype lika Halo's more than Halo 3 does. NielsNL
have you played halo yet? you should, you would believe too. and if you think you've seen hype and dont like it you better hibernate for the next 3 weeks. the hype hasn't started yet. it should start this week. you'll be seeing master cheif everywhere, even in your dreams (well nightmares if you are a sony fan).
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Here is something I said in another thread, it doesnt have all the features but it has an explaination of some of the key ones.

Forge: Allows you to modify the layout of the map and create a totally new gametype for multiplayer in a hands on experience.

Back to the after-dinner party.... While we were playing in random games with and against Bungie, Bakken was busy on his own Xbox 360, setting up Rocket Race for us on Sandtrap, a wide-open, vehicle-oriented stage set in the desert. The idea is this: There are five teams of two, where one teammate is a VIP that the other must escort to certain objective points to score. Everyone has rocket launchers, and we all spawn together, near a fleet of two-man Mongoose ATVs. Bakken pictured each team running to a Mongoose (which the VIP can't drive -- he can only be the passenger in back), taking off, and firing rockets at the other duos in an attempt to prevent them from scoring.

Only one problem. When 10 players spawn together with rocket launchers, they tend to fire first and look for rides later. It was a total mess for about five minutes: spawn, boom, spawn, boom...no one really made it to a Mongoose to play the mode properly, so no one scored. But the explosive chaos was still hilarious to witness and play. Bakken decided we needed some rocket resistance, so we restarted the match with 300 percent health. That worked...for a bit. While the players were able to live long enough to drive away in Mongooses (we decided "Mongeese" sounds too ridiculous), it only took the lead team less than a minute to hit all four checkpoints to win the game. Again, Bakken needed to adjust a few things. He went back into Forge and added several more scoring markers.

In the evening's final iteration of Rocket Race, we weren't dying 0.5 seconds after spawning in, and the dozen or so objective markers were spread throughout Sandtrap enough to make it anyone's game. Rockets flew, Mongooses flipped, last-moment scoring blocks happened at every stop...what started as a frantic mess of a mode turned into a frantic good time after a few tweaks in the Forge settings.

It was interesting to watch Bungie create and playtest a new mode right in front of us. Sometimes it worked, as the final version of Rocket Race showed, sometimes it didn't. Before we got to Rocket Race, Bungie had tried another variation of the Hamster Crack mode mentioned in the EGM cover story. That one, however, was a boring, 10-minute-long stalemate. Although we'll never see this mode in the final game, Bungie Content Editor Luke Smith did come up with a name for it: "Let's call this mode, 'Let's Never Play This Again.'"

Custom Games: This isnt new to Halo but they really overhauled it for Halo 3 and with this customization mixed with Forge you can bet theres going to be some kick ass game variants.

Here is a small chunk of what you can change in the game, for a full list from the beta go here (Theres even more in the final game like making your own power up.)

Player Speed

  • Unchanged - This Trait is unchanged and may be inherited.
  • 25%, 50%, 75%, 90% - The player moves at only that percentage of their normal speed.
  • 100% - The player moves at normal speed.
  • 110%, 125%, 150%, 200%, 300% - The player moves that percentage faster than normal.


Player Gravity

  • Unchanged - This Trait is unchanged and may be inherited.
  • 50%, 75% - Gravity is at that percentage, making the player lighter.
  • 100% - Gravity affects the player normally.
  • 150%, 200% - Gravity is at that percentage, making the player heavier.


Vehicle Use

  • Unchanged - This Trait is unchanged and may be inherited.
  • None - The player may not use any vehicles, even turrets.
  • Passenger Only - The player may only ride in the passenger seat.
  • Full Use - The player may use vehicles normally

Co-op in General: Not only can you now play online with 4 players but they have now added a meta game to add competition if you want it.

Meta game- With the meta game on you get points for killing the enemies, and you get extra points for killing them with st.yle So if you stick a enemy or snipe them in the head your going to get more points than just shooting them regularly. With this you can compete with your 3 friends online and try to see who can do the best in the campaign. So you can finally see who is actually doing all the work instead of going by word of mouth.

Saved Films: Allows you to save and replay videos of any game type.

With saved films you will now be able to look back at those moments during any game mode you play whether its the 4 player co-op or the online match match you just played. You can even go back and watch the campaign from your friends view or even the enemies if you want. This is something that I dont think any PC game has done, sure you got fraps but in fraps you cant rotate the camera and go view other parts of the game that your character didnt see. Which leads me to my next part.

File Sharing: File Sharing allows you to upload anything you have made or saved to Bnet for others to download and watch or play.

You had a great game online just a min ago? save it and upload it to Bnet and show it off to your friends.

Just made a new game variant in Forge? Save it and upload it to Bnet and let others enjoy it, hell maybe Bungie might like it and put it in their Bungie recommends and even into match making.

Got a screenshot you just took and want to make it your desktop background? Upload it to Bnet and it will be saved in a higher resolution and you can use it and show it off.

(Theres more to the file sharing too but you get the point.)

Anyway theres a quick rundown on some features that makes Halo 3 leaps beyond Halo 2. Im sure I missed a lot of features, but hopefully this is enough for you.

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The more the hype grows, the more I get the idea that the Halo 3 hype is more of a media thing than a justified joyful expectation. Can anyone please tell me what it is that this game offers that disctincts it from al the other FPS coming out nowadays? As I see it a (semi-)FPSlike MP3:C offers much more in terms of things that haven't been done before and therefore deserves a hype lika Halo's more than Halo 3 does. NielsNL

....now really?? *sniffs* do i smell some jelousy??

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It's not always about "doing something that hasn't been done before." Often it's simply about a near-perfect harmony of everything coming together to equal something that's collectively amazing.Spartan070
Too bad when I click on that link in your sig there is nothing in the Halo Universe except: Server not Found. :(
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The more the hype grows, the more I get the idea that the Halo 3 hype is more of a media thing than a justified joyful expectation. Can anyone please tell me what it is that this game offers that disctincts it from al the other FPS coming out nowadays? As I see it a (semi-)FPSlike MP3:C offers much more in terms of things that haven't been done before and therefore deserves a hype lika Halo's more than Halo 3 does. NielsNL

You know what I find more annoying than game hype (Halo's in particular)?Threads EVERYDAY asking the same question: "why all the fuss?".

Okay, you don't like it. Other people do. It is a new series. Metroid came out in the 80's. Kinda hard to get too excited for a game who's name I've been hearing for over 20 years.

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with all the halo adds on game spot can we really turst what they say?
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The more the hype grows, the more I get the idea that the Halo 3 hype is more of a media thing than a justified joyful expectation. Can anyone please tell me what it is that this game offers that disctincts it from al the other FPS coming out nowadays? As I see it a (semi-)FPSlike MP3:C offers much more in terms of things that haven't been done before and therefore deserves a hype lika Halo's more than Halo 3 does. NielsNL

It's the end of a trilogy, for those who play Halo they want to see how it ends, plus its some of the best multiplayer you'll get on the consoles (not PC), Halo is one of those things, that either you get it or you don't, period.

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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]It's not always about "doing something that hasn't been done before." Often it's simply about a near-perfect harmony of everything coming together to equal something that's collectively amazing.smokeydabear076
Too bad when I click on that link in your sig there is nothing in the Halo Universe except: Server not Found. :(

:o OMG your right!!! Must get new sig asap:x

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Its multiplayer will be really fun. I was playing 4 player split screen Halo 2 yesterday, and (if the players were a bit better) it could've been more fun. But for something that was a slaughterfest becasue everyone sucked, it was quite fun
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I believe Halo is a good game. Hell great even if you will. I just don't get why so much money is pumped into a marketing campaing for a game that will be succesful anyway. It's better to create such a hype for a new game offering a new type of gameplay or a very interesting story that will be continued in sequels or whatever. It just seems like throwing away your money hyping a game that doesn't need t o be hyped to sell. The final part in the most popular trilogy on the Xbox you people are calling it here yourelves. Shouldn't this game sell itself then, whitout all the fuss? You make more money on it if you don't spend any on (an uneccesary amount of) marketing.

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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]The more the hype grows, the more I get the idea that the Halo 3 hype is more of a media thing than a justified joyful expectation. Can anyone please tell me what it is that this game offers that disctincts it from al the other FPS coming out nowadays? As I see it a (semi-)FPSlike MP3:C offers much more in terms of things that haven't been done before and therefore deserves a hype lika Halo's more than Halo 3 does. TBoogy

You know what I find more annoying than game hype (Halo's in particular)?Threads EVERYDAY asking the same question: "why all the fuss?".

Okay, you don't like it. Other people do. It is a new series. Metroid came out in the 80's. Kinda hard to get too excited for a game who's name I've been hearing for over 20 years.

Dude.. if you find it that annoying, what the HELL are you doing on this forum then?

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I believe Halo is a good game. Hell great even if you will. I just don't get why so much money is pumped into a marketing campaing for a game that will be succesful anyway. It's better to create such a hype for a new game offering a new type of gameplay or a very interesting story that will be continued in sequels or whatever. It just seems like throwing away your money hyping a game that doesn't need t o be hyped to sell. The final part in the most popular trilogy on the Xbox you people are calling it here yourelves. Shouldn't this game sell itself then, whitout all the fuss? You make more money on it if you don't spend any on (an uneccesary amount of) marketing.

NielsNL

Halo 3 is offering new gameplay.

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It's the: Excellent gameplay, Great music, nice story to follow, forge, online setup that probably makes the best social online environment, 4 player coop and huge costumizability. Oh, and the saved films thing.
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[QUOTE="TBoogy"]

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]The more the hype grows, the more I get the idea that the Halo 3 hype is more of a media thing than a justified joyful expectation. Can anyone please tell me what it is that this game offers that disctincts it from al the other FPS coming out nowadays? As I see it a (semi-)FPSlike MP3:C offers much more in terms of things that haven't been done before and therefore deserves a hype lika Halo's more than Halo 3 does. NielsNL

You know what I find more annoying than game hype (Halo's in particular)?Threads EVERYDAY asking the same question: "why all the fuss?".

Okay, you don't like it. Other people do. It is a new series. Metroid came out in the 80's. Kinda hard to get too excited for a game who's name I've been hearing for over 20 years.

Dude.. if you find it that annoying, what the HELL are you doing on this forum then?

I am on this forum for new info. Yes, often I have to look past threads that have been done a million times, but this one has been done a dozen time TODAY, probably.

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How many ****ing times are us lemmings gonna have to ****ing explain to you people all the features of Halo 3?
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

I believe Halo is a good game. Hell great even if you will. I just don't get why so much money is pumped into a marketing campaing for a game that will be succesful anyway. It's better to create such a hype for a new game offering a new type of gameplay or a very interesting story that will be continued in sequels or whatever. It just seems like throwing away your money hyping a game that doesn't need t o be hyped to sell. The final part in the most popular trilogy on the Xbox you people are calling it here yourelves. Shouldn't this game sell itself then, whitout all the fuss? You make more money on it if you don't spend any on (an uneccesary amount of) marketing.

justforlotr2004

Halo 3 is offering new gameplay.

Don't even bother, people will only see what they want to believe. Despite all of the media surrounding the massive amount of changes, additions, etc. people still claim it isn't doing much different -- apparently completely oblivious to all of the reports and logic.

I can guarentee that no matter what Halo 3 scores, it will either be met with critism that it didn't do anything new -- whether it gets AAA (used to say it's over-scored) or AA (used to justify the score). These same people will either have never:
a) Played Halo 1, 2, and/or 3.

b) Heard of any of the new features -- and didn't care to look into it.

c) Played any of the games it will inevitably be compared with when determining the score. If the game lasts 7 hours and scores higher than Heavenly Sword, Cows will scream in protest about why Halo 3 wasn't heavily marked down for length.

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Halo 3 is the final installment to a critically acclaimed franchise with a massive (some would argue unsurpassed) fan base. The Master Chief is almost as big of an icon in gaming as Mario himself.

The amount of hate it generates on this board is just proof of how powerful of a series it really is.

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New info? On system wars? Any new info found on system wars can also be found elsewhere. Period.
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="NielsNL"]

I believe Halo is a good game. Hell great even if you will. I just don't get why so much money is pumped into a marketing campaing for a game that will be succesful anyway. It's better to create such a hype for a new game offering a new type of gameplay or a very interesting story that will be continued in sequels or whatever. It just seems like throwing away your money hyping a game that doesn't need t o be hyped to sell. The final part in the most popular trilogy on the Xbox you people are calling it here yourelves. Shouldn't this game sell itself then, whitout all the fuss? You make more money on it if you don't spend any on (an uneccesary amount of) marketing.

Apathetic-Irony

Halo 3 is offering new gameplay.

Don't even bother, people will only see what they want to believe. Despite all of the media surrounding the massive amount of changes, additions, etc. people still claim it isn't doing much different -- apparently completely oblivious to all of the reports and logic.

I can guarentee that no matter what Halo 3 scores, it will either be met with critism that it didn't do anything new -- whether it gets AAA (used to say it's over-scored) or AA (used to justify the score). These same people will either have never:
a) Played Halo 1, 2, and/or 3.

b) Heard of any of the new features -- and didn't care to look into it.

c) Played any of the games it will inevitably be compared with when determining the score. If the game lasts 7 hours and scores higher than Heavenly Sword, Cows will scream in protest about why Halo 3 wasn't heavily marked down for length.

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Halo 3 is the final installment to a critically acclaimed franchise with a massive (some would argue unsurpassed) fan base. The Master Chief is almost as big of an icon in gaming as Mario himself.

The amount of hate it generates on this board is just proof of how powerful of a series it really is.

Why is noone answering my question? You state yourself that Halo has a lot of fans and will be a great game whatever happens. Why does a game like this needs a marketing campaign that's as massive and expensive as it is.

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#40 justforlotr2004
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Why is noone answering my question? You state yourself that Halo has a lot of fans and will be a great game whatever happens. Why does a game like this needs a marketing campaign that's as massive and expensive as it is.

NielsNL

Right now it seems weird because years before Gaming was just a pass time, now its the leader of media entertainment meaning it has passed movies and even music. So as that medium advances we are going to start seeing more and more advertisments like this for the bigger games.

Right now they have spent only 10 million on marketing, and with analyst predicting they will be making 200 million on day one in sales that 10 million becomes nothing.

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#41 Apathetic-Irony
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[QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="NielsNL"]

I believe Halo is a good game. Hell great even if you will. I just don't get why so much money is pumped into a marketing campaing for a game that will be succesful anyway. It's better to create such a hype for a new game offering a new type of gameplay or a very interesting story that will be continued in sequels or whatever. It just seems like throwing away your money hyping a game that doesn't need t o be hyped to sell. The final part in the most popular trilogy on the Xbox you people are calling it here yourelves. Shouldn't this game sell itself then, whitout all the fuss? You make more money on it if you don't spend any on (an uneccesary amount of) marketing.

NielsNL

Halo 3 is offering new gameplay.

Don't even bother, people will only see what they want to believe. Despite all of the media surrounding the massive amount of changes, additions, etc. people still claim it isn't doing much different -- apparently completely oblivious to all of the reports and logic.

I can guarentee that no matter what Halo 3 scores, it will either be met with critism that it didn't do anything new -- whether it gets AAA (used to say it's over-scored) or AA (used to justify the score). These same people will either have never:
a) Played Halo 1, 2, and/or 3.

b) Heard of any of the new features -- and didn't care to look into it.

c) Played any of the games it will inevitably be compared with when determining the score. If the game lasts 7 hours and scores higher than Heavenly Sword, Cows will scream in protest about why Halo 3 wasn't heavily marked down for length.

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Halo 3 is the final installment to a critically acclaimed franchise with a massive (some would argue unsurpassed) fan base. The Master Chief is almost as big of an icon in gaming as Mario himself.

The amount of hate it generates on this board is just proof of how powerful of a series it really is.

Why is noone answering my question? You state yourself that Halo has a lot of fans and will be a great game whatever happens. Why does a game like this needs a marketing campaign that's as massive and expensive as it is.

*sigh*

Scroll up and read justforlotr2004's post.

For a simpler rundown on gameplay: Halo takes 30 seconds of fun and throws them at you over and over again. Halo 3 does that too, but then has that extra "HOLY SH!T" factor as well.

Seriously, what more do you want to be said? The game is incredibly fun. Unlike some games, I don't need a story to keep me driven to continue the game. That's not a knock against those type of games (like Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy, as FFX10 and KH1/2 are a few of my favorite games), but it's merely that people always try to compare Halo's story to other games as if Halo needs a story to succeed.

EDIT: Sorry, I wasn't fully reading your post. Ignore this post, I guess. The one below me helps shed some light.

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#42 TBoogy
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[QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="NielsNL"]

I believe Halo is a good game. Hell great even if you will. I just don't get why so much money is pumped into a marketing campaing for a game that will be succesful anyway. It's better to create such a hype for a new game offering a new type of gameplay or a very interesting story that will be continued in sequels or whatever. It just seems like throwing away your money hyping a game that doesn't need t o be hyped to sell. The final part in the most popular trilogy on the Xbox you people are calling it here yourelves. Shouldn't this game sell itself then, whitout all the fuss? You make more money on it if you don't spend any on (an uneccesary amount of) marketing.

NielsNL

Halo 3 is offering new gameplay.

Don't even bother, people will only see what they want to believe. Despite all of the media surrounding the massive amount of changes, additions, etc. people still claim it isn't doing much different -- apparently completely oblivious to all of the reports and logic.

I can guarentee that no matter what Halo 3 scores, it will either be met with critism that it didn't do anything new -- whether it gets AAA (used to say it's over-scored) or AA (used to justify the score). These same people will either have never:
a) Played Halo 1, 2, and/or 3.

b) Heard of any of the new features -- and didn't care to look into it.

c) Played any of the games it will inevitably be compared with when determining the score. If the game lasts 7 hours and scores higher than Heavenly Sword, Cows will scream in protest about why Halo 3 wasn't heavily marked down for length.

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Halo 3 is the final installment to a critically acclaimed franchise with a massive (some would argue unsurpassed) fan base. The Master Chief is almost as big of an icon in gaming as Mario himself.

The amount of hate it generates on this board is just proof of how powerful of a series it really is.

Why is noone answering my question? You state yourself that Halo has a lot of fans and will be a great game whatever happens. Why does a game like this needs a marketing campaign that's as massive and expensive as it is.

Easy.

Just beacause some gamers on a forum know the game is coming doesn't mean everyone does. My best friend is a gamer and fan of both Halo's, but if I didn't tell him the game was coming out on the 25th (or, if he hadn't now seen the commercials on G4), he wouldn't know it was coming. Hype or no hype, you don't sell millions of copies of anything on day 1 without advertising. Halo CE sold well. Slowly. Because of word of mouth. Halo 2 sold more, and quickly, because of advertising.

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#43 NielsNL
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Why is noone answering my question? You state yourself that Halo has a lot of fans and will be a great game whatever happens. Why does a game like this needs a marketing campaign that's as massive and expensive as it is.

justforlotr2004

Right now it seems weird because years before Gaming was just a pass time, now its the leader of media entertainment meaning it has passed movies and even music. So as that medium advances we are going to start seeing more and more advertisments like this for the bigger games.

Right now they have spent only 10 million on marketing, and with analyst predicting they will be making 200 million on day one in sales that 10 million becomes nothing.

So it's safe to say that Halo 3 marketing is a milestone in VG marketing and VG marketing in the future will be comparable to the marketing for large blockbuster movies?

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#44 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Why is noone answering my question? You state yourself that Halo has a lot of fans and will be a great game whatever happens. Why does a game like this needs a marketing campaign that's as massive and expensive as it is.

NielsNL

Right now it seems weird because years before Gaming was just a pass time, now its the leader of media entertainment meaning it has passed movies and even music. So as that medium advances we are going to start seeing more and more advertisments like this for the bigger games.

Right now they have spent only 10 million on marketing, and with analyst predicting they will be making 200 million on day one in sales that 10 million becomes nothing.

So it's safe to say that Halo 3 marketing is a milestone in VG marketing and VG marketing in the future will be comparable to the marketing for large blockbuster movies?

Yeah pretty much. I think MS is testing a lot of different ad techniques to see which works best for future reference's.

With Gears of war they took a small step and got a famous director to do an ad, and with Halo 3 they are expanding on that.

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#45 NielsNL
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Great development then. I think it's good to see the game industry grow up to being on par with settled industries like the movie industry.

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#46 justforlotr2004
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Great development then. I think it's good to see the game industry grow up to being on par with settled industries like the movie industry.

NielsNL

lol I think the main problem people have is that MS really didnt ease into the situation, they basicly just went full on and did everything possible which caused everyone to be overwhelmed. It will be ok though, they just broke the silence and many others should follow suit now.

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#47 NielsNL
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I think Sony should do the same. I'm convinced they will though.

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#48 11Marcel
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I think Sony should do the same. I'm convinced they will though.

NielsNL
First they need to launch an exclusive that is actually worth this kind of hype, and has as much natural appeal as halo. It'll probably happen with killzone or MGS.
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It seems MGS will be the first game coming which could profit of this strategy. Still, like I mentioned before, hyping a game that is relatively less known to this extent could also work as long as it's incredibly fun to play. Haze might be an option imo, since the guys at free radical know how to make games that play incredibally well (goldeneye, perfect dark, etc)
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It ends the storyark of Halo, has a very balanced multiplayer, adds tons of new weapons and vehicles, and lots of new features such as Forge, Saved films/Screenshots, Four player Co-op, and very detailed stats with a great ranking system.