What's the point of early adoption?

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#1 nekrothing
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early adopt me

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#2 freedomfreak
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The hype can get to you. Just like buying games Day 1. It makes sense to wait for an eventual pricedrop, or possible patching, but sometimes you're just too excited.
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#3 Blabadon
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Get good systems early. If they have good games, the more the merrier, but I usually buy later ubless they're handhelds, as I bought the 3DS and Vita in their first years.
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Agreed. Get a cheaper, more reliable system with better games later.
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Playing the games now rather than a year later duhhhhhhh!

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I would never buy a console at launch due to the reasons you mentioned. Hell, even when I bought my PS3 in August '07 after the first $100 price drop it was still a barebones, overpriced console with barely any games to play. I played nothing but Ninja Gaiden Sigma for 2 months once I had my PS3 and probably completed the game 12 times since there was nothing else to play.
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#7 tagyhag
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Some people are just impatient. I've learned my lesson and will never buy a system day one. I have more than enough games to keep me occupied in the mean time.
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I don't like waiting, and Im not poor. Plus theres usually always one great launch game that makes the purchase worthwhile (unless its the Wii U :lol: )
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#9 GamerwillzPS
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Like what freedomfreak said, the hype can get to you.

I play on PC now, so for me there's no point in buying a new console from day 1 anymore. All next-gen games will come to PC, so console exclusives are vital. That's the reason why I buy a console. It's all about exclusives.

I'll buy a console near the end of the generation, if the exclusives caught my eyes. If I started playing on PC a while back, I would have bought a PS3 now, since this generation is coming to an end.

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You do realize that people buying a console at launch greatly affects the next few years of the consoles life right? If no one bought a launch console then there would be no games to purchase in the future because Devs won't make games for a console that has no sales.
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I think the most valuable aspect of buying a console at launch is the perspective. You'll get to see the console as it changes over time, you'll know what the community was like and how it changed. It's something of an experience.
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If there's a must-have game to go with a system at launch, I'll pick it up day one. Otherwise, I'm not going to bother with launch-day systems anymore.
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I would never buy a console at launch due to the reasons you mentioned. Hell, even when I bought my PS3 in August '07 after the first $100 price drop it was still a barebones, overpriced console with barely any games to play. I played nothing but Ninja Gaiden Sigma for 2 months once I had my PS3 and probably completed the game 12 times since there was nothing else to play.BPoole96

The only console I bought on launch day was the PS2. Huge mistake. I couldn't even find a memory card for it for a month, so I was stuck playing single Madden games until I could find one!

I haven't since, nor will I ever buy a console on launch day since then. I don't care about being one of the first people to own one. It's just not worth it.

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#14 organic_machine
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One reason perhaps is to keep the console manufacturer afloat.

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#15 RyanShazam
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Why buy anything at launch?
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Well somebody has to be the lab rats for the rest of us.
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You do realize that people buying a console at launch greatly affects the next few years of the consoles life right? If no one bought a launch console then there would be no games to purchase in the future because Devs won't make games for a console that has no sales.RyanShazam

In theory, if no one purchased a new console at launch, then you'd be right. The future of that console would be in serious trouble.

However, I'm talking about reality. Regardless of how many good reasons there are to not purchase a console at launch, millions of people will still purchase one. So with that in mind, knowing that the future of a console won't be affected by the decision you make, is there any legitimate reason for you or me, or anyone else here to purchase one right when it launches? Because it doesn't sound like there is, outside of the aforementioned hype.

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#18 nekrothing
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I would never buy a console at launch due to the reasons you mentioned. Hell, even when I bought my PS3 in August '07 after the first $100 price drop it was still a barebones, overpriced console with barely any games to play. I played nothing but Ninja Gaiden Sigma for 2 months once I had my PS3 and probably completed the game 12 times since there was nothing else to play.BPoole96

Same story here, although I purchased my PS3 when it first came out. Was not worth it at all, and it's gotten me thinking about how buying a system at launch isn't worth it either.

1. Too much trouble to find the system since it was out of stock everywhere for the longest time.

2. Way too expensive, both the console and the games.

3. Very few games that were worth playing for the longest time. In addition, blu-ray was still new when the PS3 came out and there were very few blu-ray movies to purchase. So a lack of games and movies.

It almost feels like the right time to purchase a PS3 would be now at the end of its life, like GamerwillzPS mentioned. It's the cheapest it's ever been, the super slim is a way more stable system than the launch model, and there are a ton of great games out now for great prices with even more great games on the way.

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There will always be a reason to wait as the purchase price will likely go down multiple times and the library will continue to grow. You can always justify waiting till the end of the generation if that is what motivates you. For instance, lots of people are just buying in to PS360 now.

But I am interested in new technology. And I am fine with a small library at first since I'll continue to have multiple devices covering multiple generations simultaneously so there will never be a shortage of games to play.

And the cost is insignificant to me; consequently, there is no point in my waiting.

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#20 clr84651
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Well if not enough people buy the console in the first few months that can cause game devs to be skeptical about developing games on the console. The more people that buy it the better for game developers to get on board and get making games for it. If most people sat around waiting for more games on it then devs would see it as not worth the risk or time to make a game for it. A lot of lost games and delays of games would occur if a lot of people wait and don't early adopt a console.

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#21 clr84651
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If you want a console to be successful early adopt. Also the first PS3s came out were the best ones and why wait around for more games when you can buy th econsole early and play the first ones and all that come after without waiting around. Early adopters are the ones ensuring it's future success.

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You do realize that people buying a console at launch greatly affects the next few years of the consoles life right? If no one bought a launch console then there would be no games to purchase in the future because Devs won't make games for a console that has no sales.RyanShazam
This every system needs sales at launch or they would fail.

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#23 bionicle_lover
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get to play them earlier. Sometimes, i just want something new to play with and the extra 50 bucks doesnt bother me for the enjoyment i get.

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I remember getting a PS3 2 weeks after launch and playing Resistnce Fall of Man. It was co-op splitscreen and had 4p splitscreen multiplayer. That game kept me happy for a long time.

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#25 trollop_scat
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The hype can get to you. Just like buying games Day 1. It makes sense to wait for an eventual pricedrop, or possible patching, but sometimes you're just too excited.freedomfreak

^this. PC games always come out buggy and it's always frustrating but waiting on a title you know you wanna play badly is impossible. Fallout New Vegas and Diablo 3 are both perfect examples of this, I should've waited on both. Had I done so, I wouldn't have been so frustrated with New Vegas and could've avoided buying D3 all together. Waiting is the smart play but hype can drive gamers nuts...

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If there were no early adopters, consoles would just be released to the sound of crickets and sit on store shelves, and companies would pull out of the business since everything would get Vita'd right out of the gate.

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#27 locopatho
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]You do realize that people buying a console at launch greatly affects the next few years of the consoles life right? If no one bought a launch console then there would be no games to purchase in the future because Devs won't make games for a console that has no sales.Nintendo_Ownes7

This every system needs sales at launch or they would fail.

I;m glad there's people who do it but I don't see the appeal. Look how quickly 3DS for example was redesigned and dropped it's price. I'd be annoyed if I was an early adopter, the always get screwed.
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#28 clr84651
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The hype can get to you. Just like buying games Day 1. It makes sense to wait for an eventual pricedrop, or possible patching, but sometimes you're just too excited.freedomfreak

No, actually how many people buy the console in the beginning determine largely what kind of success it will have. It makes sense for all the people who can afford to buy the console within the first 3 months. That indicates a strong interest in the console to game devs and the console's success is much better as game devs need to make a good profit from making a game or they'll delay the game or not make it at all.

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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]The hype can get to you. Just like buying games Day 1. It makes sense to wait for an eventual pricedrop, or possible patching, but sometimes you're just too excited.clr84651

No, actually how many people buy the console in the beginning determine largely what kind of success it will have. It makes sense for all the people who can afford to buy the console within the first 3 months. That indicates a strong interest in the console to game devs and the console's success is much better as game devs need to make a good profit from making a game or they'll delay the game or not make it at all.

This.

I say being an early adopter, if you have the disposable income to do it without crippling yourself, makes a lot of sense for serious gamers.

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#30 clr84651
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]You do realize that people buying a console at launch greatly affects the next few years of the consoles life right? If no one bought a launch console then there would be no games to purchase in the future because Devs won't make games for a console that has no sales.locopatho

This every system needs sales at launch or they would fail.

I;m glad there's people who do it but I don't see the appeal. Look how quickly 3DS for example was redesigned and dropped it's price. I'd be annoyed if I was an early adopter, the always get screwed.

With the PS3 early adoption was actually the best of all the consoles as the early systems were the best ones and Sony has taken things out of the models as time has gone on. With the 360 the hardware failures lasted 3 years which sucked.

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only reason i could think of is if you don't have a good pc
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#32 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]The hype can get to you. Just like buying games Day 1. It makes sense to wait for an eventual pricedrop, or possible patching, but sometimes you're just too excited.clr84651

No, actually how many people buy the console in the beginning determine largely what kind of success it will have. It makes sense for all the people who can afford to buy the console within the first 3 months. That indicates a strong interest in the console to game devs and the console's success is much better as game devs need to make a good profit from making a game or they'll delay the game or not make it at all.

I'm aware of that. I was just pointing out the reason why some people buy it on release.
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]You do realize that people buying a console at launch greatly affects the next few years of the consoles life right? If no one bought a launch console then there would be no games to purchase in the future because Devs won't make games for a console that has no sales.nekrothing

In theory, if no one purchased a new console at launch, then you'd be right. The future of that console would be in serious trouble.

However, I'm talking about reality. Regardless of how many good reasons there are to not purchase a console at launch, millions of people will still purchase one. So with that in mind, knowing that the future of a console won't be affected by the decision you make, is there any legitimate reason for you or me, or anyone else here to purchase one right when it launches? Because it doesn't sound like there is, outside of the aforementioned hype.

Of course there is legitamite reason to buy one. Launch lineups usually have at least one great game. The only midnight console launch ive been to was the 360s and I took home CoD2, PGR3 and Kameo. All 3 were awesome games, nothing that could have been achieved on previous generation consoles.

And it was around 2 years later before the 360 got its first price cut, and in those 2 years loads of great games released for it so remind me again of these legitimate reasons to hold off buying a console?

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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]This every system needs sales at launch or they would fail.

clr84651

I;m glad there's people who do it but I don't see the appeal. Look how quickly 3DS for example was redesigned and dropped it's price. I'd be annoyed if I was an early adopter, the always get screwed.

With the PS3 early adoption was actually the best of all the consoles as the early systems were the best ones and Sony has taken things out of the models as time has gone on. With the 360 the hardware failures lasted 3 years which sucked.

PS3 people also got screwed on rumble pads (came out like 6 months later) and price drops were pretty fast too. And as you say, RROD was horrible for 360 people. I dunno, doesn't seem worth it all to me.
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#35 SaltyMeatballs
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If people want to buy a system early, why does this bother you? I am thankful that there are people out there willing to spend money on a system early on, if everyone waited... well the system would flop and be dead in a year, then there would truly never be a reason to get it.
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]I would never buy a console at launch due to the reasons you mentioned. Hell, even when I bought my PS3 in August '07 after the first $100 price drop it was still a barebones, overpriced console with barely any games to play. I played nothing but Ninja Gaiden Sigma for 2 months once I had my PS3 and probably completed the game 12 times since there was nothing else to play.nekrothing

Same story here, although I purchased my PS3 when it first came out. Was not worth it at all, and it's gotten me thinking about how buying a system at launch isn't worth it either.

1. Too much trouble to find the system since it was out of stock everywhere for the longest time.

2. Way too expensive, both the console and the games.

3. Very few games that were worth playing for the longest time. In addition, blu-ray was still new when the PS3 came out and there were very few blu-ray movies to purchase. So a lack of games and movies.

It almost feels like the right time to purchase a PS3 would be now at the end of its life, like GamerwillzPS mentioned. It's the cheapest it's ever been, the super slim is a way more stable system than the launch model, and there are a ton of great games out now for great prices with even more great games on the way.

Its basically the same thing they got me out of buying games day one. I would buy a game at launch for $60, Beta test it, eventually complete it but be too frustrated with bugs to continue playing, and then a month later a patch comes out and people are buying it used for $30 and getting a better experience than I did. It's just not worth the risk since shipping unfinished, buggy games have become more apparent. Many people who bought their PS3s in 2008-9 have no idea how terrible PSN used to be. Just like the games, I spent more money and got an inferior experience. Hopefully next gen consoles will be better about this stuff
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#37 TheEroica  Moderator
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ive bought a lot of consoles at launch, mostly as a kid, but this gen im gonna sit on it a bit... depending on a few factors, Ill probably end up buying the next playstation and xbox gonna skip nintendo for the first time since the NES. :( I dont think I can justify it given my lack of satisfaction with the wii overall.

to answer the question, i think its self-hype... some people just want to have it. it makes them happy. live and let live i say.

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#38 silversix_
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because waiting for new gen to arrive takes long enough and when its finally here its not time to wait more years.
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#39 TheEroica  Moderator
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because waiting for new gen to arrive takes long enough and when its finally here its not time to wait more years.silversix_
Theres a lot of truth to that. :)
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#40 Pug-Nasty
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It's simple economics really. For some, the prospect of new hardware and features is worth the launch entry price. For others, those things don't mean much until there is more software, which they will wait for and the price willd drop in the meantime.

There's no reason to question it, really, as it's the same with any new hardware. People were buying HD TVs before we even had any solid HD content to display on them. People were buying phones with 4G capabilities before their carriers implemented 4G in their areas (Sprint is so far behind with this, it isn't funny).

It's just the nature of technology. Content can't be made for tech that doesn't exist, and content takes time to craft once the tech hits the market (plus, content creators need to measure the potential success of the tech before they'll commit).

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#41 LegatoSkyheart
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I don't want kids right now. (lol)

Seriously though, if you want the system, just get it. You'll be waiting a long time for the price to go down.