What's the worst argument that people actually take seriously?

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#1 GreySeal9
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There's a thread on the worst argument against or in favor of a certain system, but that thread seems to focus on the absurd arguments. So I wanted to make a thread on the worst arguments that a lot of people take seriously. So these arguments will not necessarily be the worst as the worst arguments are the ones that not a single person but the most rabid of cheerleaders take seriously, but they should be extremely flawed nonetheless.

Anyway, I think the worst argument that many people take seriously is that the "PS3 is futureproof." In the context of console hardware, future proofing is a pretty ridiculous concept. Yes, there are certain parts of the system that could be seen as having an eye to the future (such as the storage medium), but these features are only relevant to the future in that they might carry over into other gens, which does not make the PS3 futureproof. The PS3 will become outdated like any other console because the core technology will become outdated. Actually, it could be argued that the tech is ALL READY outdated.

In short, PS3 fanboys that tout this talking point can name all the features they want, but that will not make the tech in the PS3 any younger. It will go through all the cycles of life that consoles usually do.

PC comes closer to being future proof than a PS3, but even it is by no means future proof.

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#2 DraugenCP
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Anything implying that sales, popularity, and/or review scores are conclusive evidence of a game's quality.

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#3 jedikevin2
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Using GS Review score as a measure of how good a game or console is. (The Whole AAAAE, AAAE, AAE,AA, A argument) They come up almost daily and are just sickening to see.

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#4 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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The relevance of exclusivity, GS scores (yes, they are taken way too seriosuly, even outside the SW metagame) and companies being "good" and "caring".
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#5 ActicEdge
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That lack of exclusives makes your year bad. What the hell?

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#6 i5750at4Ghz
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GS scores are all that matters.

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#7 mayforcebeyou
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exclusives and sales
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#8 Cherokee_Jack
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That graphics don't matter, and subsequently that criticizing a game's graphical fidelity is mere nitpicking in any situation and is a sign of bias on the critic's part.

Also, that all forms of paid DLC are exploitative and show that the developer is greedy.

and companies being "good" and "caring".IronBass

Or that companies become evil when we happen to hear about enough of the unpleasant things they do, and that in the absence of such reports they're good and caring until proven otherwise.

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The relevance of exclusivity, GS scores (yes, they are taken way too seriosuly, even outside the SW metagame) and companies being "good" and "caring".IronBass

Agreed. I've always believed that anyone who is hung up on exclusivity is more of a cheerleader than a gamer anyway.

Also, the logic that being exclusive automatically makes a game "higher quality" is ridiculous.

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#10 GreySeal9
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That graphics don't matter, and subsequently that criticizing a game's graphical fidelity is mere nitpicking in any situation and is a sign of bias on the critic's part. [QUOTE="IronBass"] and companies being "good" and "caring".Cherokee_Jack
Or that companies become evil when we happen to hear about enough of the unpleasant things they do, and that in the absence of such reports they're good and caring until proven otherwise.

That's a great point.

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#11 Game-fu
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Sales. More specifically the effect that it implies; so many people can't be wrong, eh?

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#12 TacticalDesire
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Definitely exclusivity. Just because a game is exclusive and scores an 8.5 or a 9.0 it is somehow so much better than all the multi-plat 8.5-9.0 games out there.

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The great graphics make a game great, its absourd

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#14 Cherokee_Jack
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The great graphics make a game great, its absourd

Cruse34
Who's taken that seriously? I've really never seen anyone other than trolls say that graphics are all a game needs to be good.
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#15 hakanakumono
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Any argument that decides a consoles' worth solely on exclusives and not by overall library.

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#16 2-10-08
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PC gaming is affordable. I guess $3000 every 2 years is affordable nowadays.

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#17 i5750at4Ghz
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PC gaming is affordable. I guess $3000 every 2 years is affordable nowadays.

2-10-08
Troll?
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#18 TheColbert
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Reviews spawn far to many arguments. Especially the point system. A game gets a 9 and you will see threads popping up on how it is an "epic fail!!!!" I don't understand.
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#19 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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Good graphics being important.
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#20 VendettaRed07
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PC gaming is affordable. I guess $3000 every 2 years is affordable nowadays.

2-10-08

... erm. Your doing it wrong if you are paying 3000$ every two years... Or every 10 years for that matter

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#21 Hakkai007
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PC gaming is affordable. I guess $3000 every 2 years is affordable nowadays.

2-10-08

Probably or troll otherwise he has never listened to a hermit explain to him that a 500 USD PC is 4x more power than any console and can max out just about any game at 1680x1050 res.

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#22 HFkami
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owning all systems making your gaming experince better is a pretty silly one

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#23 NVIDIATI
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[QUOTE="2-10-08"]

PC gaming is affordable. I guess $3000 every 2 years is affordable nowadays.

i5750at4Ghz

Troll?

Yes, he's obviously trolling.

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That consoles are "Casualizing" gaming as a whole.

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#25 lundy86_4
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PC gaming is affordable. I guess $3000 every 2 years is affordable nowadays.

2-10-08

Lol, you just reminded me of that thread you made where nobody agreed with your views on PC gaming, and then it got locked... Therefore why would people take your statements regarding PC seriously?

Don't spread misconceptions. I spent $1500 building mine 2 years ago, and for the most part it runs games on highest at 1920x1200.

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#26 WhenCicadasCry
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PC gaming is affordable. I guess $3000 every 2 years is affordable nowadays.

2-10-08

I was about to say Pc gaming cost 3000 dollars a year to play games. All you do is troll. I'm suprised you havn't been banned.

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#27 hd5870corei7
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PC gaming is affordable. I guess $3000 every 2 years is affordable nowadays.

2-10-08
Maybe for you.
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#28 LegatoSkyheart
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Well just awhile ago there was thread that said that "Hardcore Games don't work with Motion Controls."

I'll go with that.

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#29 LegatoSkyheart
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owning all systems making your gaming experince better is a pretty silly one

HFkami

That's only true if you started out with an Atari, Sega Genesis, NES or SNES.

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#30 DesiGhost
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It's probably, "Which is better? 360 or PS3? (It's 360 by the way..)

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#31 LegatoSkyheart
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It's probably, "Which is better? 360 or PS3? (It's 360 by the way..)

DesiGhost

Seriously? a system that requires you to Pay to Play Online is Better than a System that has Free Online and has an Optional Pay for Extra Content (that you really don't need) and Discounts?

lol

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#32 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I don't know, but I've seen a few folks say RDR is better on Xbox 360 because it's in higher resolution. I find that a bit silly.
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#33 felipebo
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That consoles are "Casualizing" gaming as a whole.

xYamatox

Thank you.

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#34 HoolaHoopMan
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Exclusives and Gamespot scores.
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#35 Sp4rtan_3
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Well this is a brand new one I saw today:

"GoW3 is the best selling HD exclusive game of half the year" :roll:

and " Mass effect 2 is exclusive because it isnt on a sony console."

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#36 Fizzman
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The argument that the idea's/opinions in SW = reality.

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#37 88mphSlayer
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my list is bigger than your list

stupidest argument ever, and people always fall over themselves clamoring to top it

because 9 times out of 10, not one person anywhere on this planet cares about the entire library a console offers