Whats up with Lemmings and GTA4?

Why do Lemmings say that they are getting the "whole" game? There even saying that you should just say its a 360 exclusive title.

Why are people making a huge deal about DLC? DLC is just extra stuff. It's not going to change gameplay, and storyline. The only thing its going to change is probably guns, cars, cloths etc. Its probably going to give you a few more missions but its not going to effect the main storyline. I bet its a few missions from the point of few of Niko's cousin before Niko came to America.

DLC to the greatest game in the history of the world is their last hope in converting playstation fans into xbox fans.

Why do Lemmings say that they are getting the "whole" game? There even saying that you should just say its a 360 exclusive title.

Why are people making a huge deal about DLC? DLC is just extra stuff. It's not going to change gameplay, and storyline. The only thing its going to change is probably guns, cars, cloths etc. Its probably going to give you a few more missions but its not going to effect the main storyline. I bet its a few missions from the point of few of Niko's cousin before Niko came to America.

Sony_92

Lets not forget that the PS3 will be getting DLC too, only a lot later, but still, you're right, the DLC will just be a few extra tacked on, like a new neighbourhood and maybe a few new cars. It's no reason to buy a whole new console over.

What part of "Exclusive Episodic Content" don't you understand?

while the DLC is nice on the 360 side, i really think that both platforms will produce an identical game.clone01

thats my point

Because a staff member of Rockstar said The 360 version was the definitive version. I will get the 360 version just incase i ever decide to purchase the DLc. I probably wont, but will have the choice there is necessary. readingfc_1

Sam Houser clearly stated in an interview that both version were pretty much identical (a few minor details that only a fanboy would point out, or an obsessive person who set up both games side by side)

here we go again lol

It's like three exclusive sequels that you can only get on the Xbox360.BlackIsle_rip

Its because the lemmings wont have anything else to play after GTAIV they need that DLC, while you Cows will have lots of great titles in 2008 to play and move onto bigger and better games!

i havent decided if i will get it for my PS3 or 360, but we'll see.

[QUOTE="Sony_92"]

Why do Lemmings say that they are getting the "whole" game? There even saying that you should just say its a 360 exclusive title.

Why are people making a huge deal about DLC? DLC is just extra stuff. It's not going to change gameplay, and storyline. The only thing its going to change is probably guns, cars, cloths etc. Its probably going to give you a few more missions but its not going to effect the main storyline. I bet its a few missions from the point of few of Niko's cousin before Niko came to America.

donwoogie

Lets not forget that the PS3 will be getting DLC too, only a lot later, but still, you're right, the DLC will just be a few extra tacked on, like a new neighbourhood and maybe a few new cars. It's no reason to buy a whole new console over.

You guys may be right, but since we have no way to know what the DLC is gonna be (and since Rockstar already said it was going to be big), it doesn't make sense to write it off just yet. It's pretty unlikely that it'll just be a couple missions, unless said missions are pretty big. Will it be worth getting the 360 version over? Depends: If A) you don't mind paying for the DLC (which is always a distinct possibility), and B) if the DLC turns out to be "huge" as Rockstar claims. But if both of these are true, I would definitely want the version which allows me to add so much more to my game.

[QUOTE="BlackIsle_rip"]It's like three exclusive sequels that you can only get on the Xbox360.donwoogie

Three where agreed upon I think you'll find.

Its because the lemmings wont have anything else to play after GTAIV they need that DLC, while you Cows will have lots of great titles in 2008 to play and move onto bigger and better games!

i havent decided if i will get it for my PS3 or 360, but we'll see.

freediro

I hope the bolded section was a joke, because I don't even want to go into how many ways that statement is wrong.

It's like three exclusive sequels that you can only get on the Xbox360.BlackIsle_rip

They were never confirmed. And TWO exclusive 'sequels' can't remember who said it, article on CVG, but someone from Rockstar said it's going to be like procedurally generated extra missions :|

Because a staff member of Rockstar said The 360 version was the definitive version. I will get the 360 version just incase i ever decide to purchase the DLc. I probably wont, but will have the choice there is necessary. readingfc_1

That's how low lemmings are :lol:

And the VP of rockstar said theres nothing major coming out of the DLC as they are not sure if enogh people have access to XBL to make it worthwhile LINK read the last paragpraph

Its because the lemmings wont have anything else to play after GTAIV they need that DLC, while you Cows will have lots of great titles in 2008 to play and move onto bigger and better games!

freediro

I think you've cracked it :|

I feel that the DLC is just going to be a big joke in the end. If they can't ship the full game when it's released then it's not worth haveing at any time.jimm895

Totally agree.

[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="BlackIsle_rip"]It's like three exclusive sequels that you can only get on the Xbox360.BlackIsle_rip

Three where agreed upon I think you'll find.

No, it was definately two. MS paid $25mill for for one episode to be released between three months of the release of the original game, and a second one to be made and released by Q1 2009. After that, it's fair game, but those two particular episodes are "exclusive" (I say exclusive, but you never know with Rockstar............)

If you can find me a credible source with information stating 3 episodes, I will gladly admit you are correct and I'm not.

Yeah, MS paid 50 million for a couple of extra side missions. Just keep telling yourselves that. The DLC will sway a lot of owners of both consoles to get the 360 version. Sony dropped the ball on GTA 4 bigtime. They let arguably their biggest exclusive go to their competitor, and let the DLC go too. The DLC might eventually get to the PS3, but by that time we will all have moved on to other games. So sorry.kevbo77

DLC to the greatest game in the history of the world is their last hope in converting playstation fans into xbox fans.

Nike_Air

That already happened to a lot of American's with Madden.

Scenario #1

I buy the 360 version and the DLC is good. So I download it. *I win*

I buy the 360 version and the DLC is bad. So I don't download it. *I win*

Scenario #2

I buy the PS3 version and the 360's Exclusive DLC is good. I can't get it *I lose*

I buy the PS3 version and the 360's Exclusive DLC is bad. *Good to know I'm not missing out*

If you won both systems I really have no idea why you would not buy the 360 version and granted I don't even like GTA. But if someone were to tell me that KOFXII was getting Exclusive DLC on PS3 and not on 360. DLC that had more characters ect well then duh its a no brainer that I'd obvoiusly get the PS3 version. You guys need to start being fans of the game instead of the system.

Now granted that there is nothing wrong if you are buying the PS3 version but come on people. Claiming that the DLC isn't going to be good is claiming that the game itself won't be good. R* is developing them both. If you don't have confidence in the exclusive DLC you might as welll not have confidence in the game itself.

There's two issues here that I find funny.

1. A hand full of these people, most likely cows, downplay the significance of the Exclusive Episodic Content. They cost $50 million dollars. So when I see people, most likely cows, say that these content would just be a few new missions, extra guns, and cars, I just find it funny.

2. Remember GTA IV was suppose to have been out last year, but because of the PS3, they delayed it. The 360 version was already set for release, so this delay just means more polish and at the same time Rockstar could've been working on the content already. So these exclusive episodic content is closer than we think. So it's just funny how people say things like, "oh by the time these content is out..blah blah", making it sound like they'll be out by next year.

There's two issues here that I find funny.

1. A hand full of these people, most likely cows, downplay the significance of the Exclusive Episodic Content. They cost $50 million dollars. So when I see people, most likely cows, say that these content would just be a few new missions, extra guns, and cars, I just find it funny.

2. Remember GTA IV was suppose to have been out last year, but because of the PS3, they delayed it. The 360 version was already set for release, so this delay just means more polish and at the same time Rockstar could've been working on the content already. So these exclusive episodic content is closer than we think. So it's just funny how people say things like, "oh by the time these content is out..blah blah", making it sound like they'll be out by next year.

ReverseCycology

One episode will be released within 3 montsh of the release of GTAIV and the second one has to be done by Q1 2009. So yes, it is pretty close.

Scenario #1

I buy the 360 version and the DLC is good. So I download it. *I win*

I buy the 360 version and the DLC is bad. So I don't download it. *I win*

Scenario #2

I buy the PS3 version and the 360's Exclusive DLC is good. I can't get it *I lose*

I buy the PS3 version and the 360's Exclusive DLC is bad. *Good to know I'm not missing out*

If you won both systems I really have no idea why you would not buy the 360 version and granted I don't even like GTA. But if someone were to tell me that KOFXII was getting Exclusive DLC on PS3 and not on 360. DLC that had more characters ect well then duh its a no brainer that I'd obvoiusly get the PS3 version. You guys need to start being fans of the game instead of the system.

Now granted that there is nothing wrong if you are buying the PS3 version but come on people. Claiming that the DLC isn't going to be good is claiming that the game itself won't be good. R* is developing them both. If you don't have confidence in the exclusive DLC you might as welll not have confidence in the game itself.

Blackbond

I'm getting the PS3 version because I prefer the controller.

Also, if any company is going to make good on their promise to use Sixaxis in a meaningful and useful way, it's Rockstar (Sixaxis helicopter control! or even integrating it into the duck and cover system? :D)

Lastly, I hate the profile system on the Xbox 360 to death. The whole saving to your profile and not to the general hard drive space irritates me to no end.

I remember reading that the DLC will not be just extra weapons, cars or something like that. But a set a missions that I heard around the size (mission wise) of Vice City or San Andreas. Kinda like expansion packs. They will be nice to have the option of downloading them, anda reason why I am going to pick it up for the 360, if they aren't that great I will not download them. But if they are I will.

If the tables were turned the cows will be hyping this too.

Scenario #1

I buy the 360 version and the DLC is good. So I download it. *I win*

I buy the 360 version and the DLC is bad. So I don't download it. *I win*

Scenario #2

I buy the PS3 version and the 360's Exclusive DLC is good. I can't get it *I lose*

I buy the PS3 version and the 360's Exclusive DLC is bad. *Good to know I'm not missing out*

If you won both systems I really have no idea why you would not buy the 360 version and granted I don't even like GTA. But if someone were to tell me that KOFXII was getting Exclusive DLC on PS3 and not on 360. DLC that had more characters ect well then duh its a no brainer that I'd obvoiusly get the PS3 version. You guys need to start being fans of the game instead of the system.

Now granted that there is nothing wrong if you are buying the PS3 version but come on people. Claiming that the DLC isn't going to be good is claiming that the game itself won't be good. R* is developing them both. If you don't have confidence in the exclusive DLC you might as welll not have confidence in the game itself.

Blackbond

The problem is not that people are claiming the DLC will not be good. The problem is MS fans are claiming the 360 to be the true version because it has the "amazing" DLC. Yet the truth is we have no clue what the DLC will contain or how much it will cost, rumors are claiming 15 dollars. So for 90 dollars you get the "true" GTA.

I have played many games that had DLC and enjoyed them immensly without purchasing the DLC. The truth is most people who buy GTA dont even beat the game 100%. They mostly play as far as they can stay interested then get the cheat codes to have all the weapons and create havock till they get chased by tanks. And to top it off, GTA will have multiplayer which will pull even more gamers away from the single player mode.

DLC is great to have if you like that sort of thing but its nothing to brag about, it comes out 4-6 months later after most people have moved on to a new game like MGS4 or whatever and it could cost you almost as much as GT: P.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Scenario #1

I buy the 360 version and the DLC is good. So I download it. *I win*

I buy the 360 version and the DLC is bad. So I don't download it. *I win*

Scenario #2

I buy the PS3 version and the 360's Exclusive DLC is good. I can't get it *I lose*

I buy the PS3 version and the 360's Exclusive DLC is bad. *Good to know I'm not missing out*

If you won both systems I really have no idea why you would not buy the 360 version and granted I don't even like GTA. But if someone were to tell me that KOFXII was getting Exclusive DLC on PS3 and not on 360. DLC that had more characters ect well then duh its a no brainer that I'd obvoiusly get the PS3 version. You guys need to start being fans of the game instead of the system.

Now granted that there is nothing wrong if you are buying the PS3 version but come on people. Claiming that the DLC isn't going to be good is claiming that the game itself won't be good. R* is developing them both. If you don't have confidence in the exclusive DLC you might as welll not have confidence in the game itself.

Javy03

The problem is not that people are claiming the DLC will not be good. The problem is MS fans are claiming the 360 to be the true version because it has the "amazing" DLC. Yet the truth is we have no clue what the DLC will contain or how much it will cost, rumors are claiming 15 dollars. So for 90 dollars you get the "true" GTA.

I have played many games that had DLC and enjoyed them immensly without purchasing the DLC. The truth is most people who buy GTA dont even beat the game 100%. They mostly play as far as they can stay interested then get the cheat codes to have all the weapons and create havock till they get chased by tanks. And to top it off, GTA will have multiplayer which will pull even more gamers away from the single player mode.

DLC is great to have if you like that sort of thing but its nothing to brag about, it comes out 4-6 months later after most people have moved on to a new game like MGS4 or whatever and it could cost you almost as much as GT: P.

When one version has exclusive content and the other doesn't you really only need to put two and two together. Or do we need to put two and $50 million together. Most people won't beat GTA 100% just like most people don't beat gaems 100%. But if some GTA is good more is always better. Moving on to another game doesn't matter. This is GTA4. Not GTA4 then another game.

Like when people say who cares about the EDLC we are getting La Norie exclusive. Yeah okay that's cool and all but what does La Noire have to do with my GTA4 game?

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Scenario #1

I buy the 360 version and the DLC is good. So I download it. *I win*

I buy the 360 version and the DLC is bad. So I don't download it. *I win*

Scenario #2

I buy the PS3 version and the 360's Exclusive DLC is good. I can't get it *I lose*

I buy the PS3 version and the 360's Exclusive DLC is bad. *Good to know I'm not missing out*

If you won both systems I really have no idea why you would not buy the 360 version and granted I don't even like GTA. But if someone were to tell me that KOFXII was getting Exclusive DLC on PS3 and not on 360. DLC that had more characters ect well then duh its a no brainer that I'd obvoiusly get the PS3 version. You guys need to start being fans of the game instead of the system.

Now granted that there is nothing wrong if you are buying the PS3 version but come on people. Claiming that the DLC isn't going to be good is claiming that the game itself won't be good. R* is developing them both. If you don't have confidence in the exclusive DLC you might as welll not have confidence in the game itself.

Javy03

The problem is not that people are claiming the DLC will not be good. The problem is MS fans are claiming the 360 to be the true version because it has the "amazing" DLC. Yet the truth is we have no clue what the DLC will contain or how much it will cost, rumors are claiming 15 dollars. So for 90 dollars you get the "true" GTA.

I have played many games that had DLC and enjoyed them immensly without purchasing the DLC. The truth is most people who buy GTA dont even beat the game 100%. They mostly play as far as they can stay interested then get the cheat codes to have all the weapons and create havock till they get chased by tanks. And to top it off, GTA will have multiplayer which will pull even more gamers away from the single player mode.

DLC is great to have if you like that sort of thing but its nothing to brag about, it comes out 4-6 months later after most people have moved on to a new game like MGS4 or whatever and it could cost you almost as much as GT: P.

[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Scenario #1

I buy the 360 version and the DLC is good. So I download it. *I win*

I buy the 360 version and the DLC is bad. So I don't download it. *I win*

Scenario #2

I buy the PS3 version and the 360's Exclusive DLC is good. I can't get it *I lose*

I buy the PS3 version and the 360's Exclusive DLC is bad. *Good to know I'm not missing out*

If you won both systems I really have no idea why you would not buy the 360 version and granted I don't even like GTA. But if someone were to tell me that KOFXII was getting Exclusive DLC on PS3 and not on 360. DLC that had more characters ect well then duh its a no brainer that I'd obvoiusly get the PS3 version. You guys need to start being fans of the game instead of the system.

Now granted that there is nothing wrong if you are buying the PS3 version but come on people. Claiming that the DLC isn't going to be good is claiming that the game itself won't be good. R* is developing them both. If you don't have confidence in the exclusive DLC you might as welll not have confidence in the game itself.

Blackbond

The problem is not that people are claiming the DLC will not be good. The problem is MS fans are claiming the 360 to be the true version because it has the "amazing" DLC. Yet the truth is we have no clue what the DLC will contain or how much it will cost, rumors are claiming 15 dollars. So for 90 dollars you get the "true" GTA.

I have played many games that had DLC and enjoyed them immensly without purchasing the DLC. The truth is most people who buy GTA dont even beat the game 100%. They mostly play as far as they can stay interested then get the cheat codes to have all the weapons and create havock till they get chased by tanks. And to top it off, GTA will have multiplayer which will pull even more gamers away from the single player mode.

DLC is great to have if you like that sort of thing but its nothing to brag about, it comes out 4-6 months later after most people have moved on to a new game like MGS4 or whatever and it could cost you almost as much as GT: P.

When one version has exclusive content and the other doesn't you really only need to put two and two together. Or do we need to put two and $50 million together. Most people won't beat GTA 100% just like most people don't beat gaems 100%. But if some GTA is good more is always better. Moving on to another game doesn't matter. This is GTA4. Not GTA4 then another game.

Like when people say who cares about the EDLC we are getting La Norie exclusive. Yeah okay that's cool and all but what does La Noire have to do with my GTA4 game?

Again, my point is the exclusive content is blown out of proportion. Its not free, its not launching with the game, and most GTA gamers will care more about getting chased by tanks or playing the multiplayer then spending another 30 dollars or so for extra missions, especially if they havnt finished all their current missions.

I dont care about La Norie, my point is the GTA DLC is made a bigger deal then it is. By the time it comes out only a handfull of the audience will actually still be playing GTA and a smaller handful will actually purchase it. So again for 4-6 months both 360 and PS3 fans will be playing the same game.

DLC = more ganeplay = why you buy a game in the 1st place, to play it. Simple enough or do I need a fifth grader to explain it to you?DXGreat1_HGL

GTA is far from a largely story driven game. Most people play it to create havock and get chased by cops not to beat every single mission. Then to top it off GTA4 will have multiplayer which will add alot more gameplay and replayability then DLC. I just think its funny MS fans bash Sony fans for wanting to buy GT: P for 40 but will wait four to six months for DLC and pay possibly thirty for a few extra missions.

Again, my point is the exclusive content is blown out of proportion. Its not free, its not launching with the game, and most GTA gamers will care more about getting chased by tanks or playing the multiplayer then spending another 30 dollars or so for extra missions, especially if they havnt finished all their current missions.

I dont care about La Norie, my point is the GTA DLC is made a bigger deal then it is. By the time it comes out only a handfull of the audience will actually still be playing GTA and a smaller handful will actually purchase it. So again for 4-6 months both 360 and PS3 fans will be playing the same game.

Javy03

I don't think it is. If your a fan of the game then you'd want more of the game. More of the game I want is better. It doesn't matter who plays it or isn't playing it how many play it. Fact of the matter is one version is going to have more content then the other. People need to start playing by the game instead of playing by the system. Again I state I don't even like the series. But if one version has the potential to get more content then the other then its a no brainer. Even if you don't want it now who's to say that you won't want it tomorrow, next month, next year, three years.

Its just a simple fact that one version has more content then another. If people don't care then fine. I'm not saying that you need to. But I know that if a game I really liked was coming on two consoles and it had exclusive content on one console then I'd buy it on that console.

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]DLC = more ganeplay = why you buy a game in the 1st place, to play it. Simple enough or do I need a fifth grader to explain it to you?Javy03

GTA is far from a largely story driven game. Most people play it to create havock and get chased by cops not to beat every single mission. Then to top it off GTA4 will have multiplayer which will add alot more gameplay and replayability then DLC. I just think its funny MS fans bash Sony fans for wanting to buy GT: P for 40 but will wait four to six months for DLC and pay possibly thirty for a few extra missions.

Yeah words like that. They don't go over so well. See people know that the full fledged GT5 is coming and hell even most cows are passing on GT5P and waiting for the whole deal.

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]DLC = more ganeplay = why you buy a game in the 1st place, to play it. Simple enough or do I need a fifth grader to explain it to you?Javy03

GTA is far from a largely story driven game. Most people play it to create havock and get chased by cops not to beat every single mission. Then to top it off GTA4 will have multiplayer which will add alot more gameplay and replayability then DLC. I just think its funny MS fans bash Sony fans for wanting to buy GT: P for 40 but will wait four to six months for DLC and pay possibly thirty for a few extra missions.

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]DLC = more ganeplay = why you buy a game in the 1st place, to play it. Simple enough or do I need a fifth grader to explain it to you?Blackbond

GTA is far from a largely story driven game. Most people play it to create havock and get chased by cops not to beat every single mission. Then to top it off GTA4 will have multiplayer which will add alot more gameplay and replayability then DLC. I just think its funny MS fans bash Sony fans for wanting to buy GT: P for 40 but will wait four to six months for DLC and pay possibly thirty for a few extra missions.

Yeah words like that. They don't go over so well. See people know that the full fledged GT5 is coming and hell even most cows are passing on GT5P and waiting for the whole deal.

Pre orders dont seem to reflect that idea. If I recall it was preordered like crazy, and some Sony fans actually already imported it and own it. I am curious as to where you think most Sony fans are passing on it?

And I say possibly because we have no definite info on price, heck we have no definite info on the content of the DLC. I know fanboys will harp on that word but I am not gonna pretend that there is certainty when there isnt.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Javy03"]

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]DLC = more ganeplay = why you buy a game in the 1st place, to play it. Simple enough or do I need a fifth grader to explain it to you?Javy03

GTA is far from a largely story driven game. Most people play it to create havock and get chased by cops not to beat every single mission. Then to top it off GTA4 will have multiplayer which will add alot more gameplay and replayability then DLC. I just think its funny MS fans bash Sony fans for wanting to buy GT: P for 40 but will wait four to six months for DLC and pay possibly thirty for a few extra missions.

Yeah words like that. They don't go over so well. See people know that the full fledged GT5 is coming and hell even most cows are passing on GT5P and waiting for the whole deal.

Pre orders dont seem to reflect that idea. If I recall it was preordered like crazy, and some Sony fans actually already imported it and own it. I am curious as to where you think most Sony fans are passing on it?

And I say possibly because we have no definite info on price, heck we have no definite info on the content of the DLC. I know fanboys will harp on that word but I am not gonna pretend that there is certainty when there isnt.

When pre-orders are oer 50% of the PS3 user base then come tell me. Until then it is not most. Especially when past GT games have sold more then the entire GT5P reserves.

If you're a 360 owner and the DLC is good then yay for you. If its bad then don't waste your money. All you can do if you buy it for PS3 is hope to god that its not good.

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

Again, my point is the exclusive content is blown out of proportion. Its not free, its not launching with the game, and most GTA gamers will care more about getting chased by tanks or playing the multiplayer then spending another 30 dollars or so for extra missions, especially if they havnt finished all their current missions.

I dont care about La Norie, my point is the GTA DLC is made a bigger deal then it is. By the time it comes out only a handfull of the audience will actually still be playing GTA and a smaller handful will actually purchase it. So again for 4-6 months both 360 and PS3 fans will be playing the same game.

Blackbond

I don't think it is. If your a fan of the game then you'd want more of the game. More of the game I want is better. It doesn't matter who plays it or isn't playing it how many play it. Fact of the matter is one version is going to have more content then the other. People need to start playing by the game instead of playing by the system. Again I state I don't even like the series. But if one version has the potential to get more content then the other then its a no brainer. Even if you don't want it now who's to say that you won't want it tomorrow, next month, next year, three years.

Its just a simple fact that one version has more content then another. If people don't care then fine. I'm not saying that you need to. But I know that if a game I really liked was coming on two consoles and it had exclusive content on one console then I'd buy it on that console.

I don't understand how this is even up for debate. How do you defend not buying the 360 version, if both games are equal in your eyes? Some people have pointed out that they prefer the sixaxis controller, or that hopefully there will be motion controls in the game, both of which are valid points; I can understand why you'd purchase the game for your PS3 under these circumstances. However, if you have no preference on controller (or very little preference), how is the opportunity to download extra content not a selling point? It's a no brainer: Which do I buy, the game that has the content (in case I ever want it), or the one that doesn't?

There's no reason people who only own a PS3 shouldn't buy this game, and there's no reason people can't come up with their own reasons for preferring it on the PS3. However, downplaying the DLC makes absolutely no sense--It's like saying, "who cares about how much I can play the game?" The bottom line is, having the OPTION to get more content for the game is always the winning scenario.

What's up with Cows saying DLC is no big deal?EuroMafia

I own both consoles and I dont think its a big deal. I'm going to get the PS3 version because I think its going to run better and have better graphics. And the fact that i've played every GTA game to date on a Playstation console with a Playstation controller also makes me prefer the Playstation version of the game. Also if the DLC was a big enough deal to make or break the game they would have put it into the origional product.

Its because the lemmings wont have anything else to play after GTAIV they need that DLC, while you Cows will have lots of great titles in 2008 to play and move onto bigger and better games!

i havent decided if i will get it for my PS3 or 360, but we'll see.

freediro

are you serious?

I have all the multiplats (which have been some of the better games this gen) plus I have Fable 2 (loved the first one), and NG2, Bioshock, Mass Effect, and Ace Combat 6, THATS RIGHT, I let my dont automatically run out and get a game on day one just to have it, no rush).

Hell, i also have a Wii and have yet to play Mario Galaxy and Paper Mario, oh, and Mario Kart is coming real soon.

So i ask you, how is it that I'm going to have nothing to play after GTA4 drops? I still play halo 3, COD4 and FNr3 religiously online. Soon I'll add soul calibur 4 to the mix.

Stop limiting your gaming expectations to exclusives, it makes you sound like an idiot.