Ok so having tried both services for 2+ years each I just dont see why xbl is touted as such an amazing service compared to the psn. The only feature that I dont seem to have on the psn that xbl does is cross-game voice chat. Granted my only direct comparison between the two is with CoD4, I had less problems getting in to a game and less lag once I found a game on the psn. I realize others have had different experiences and im not saying yours is wrong or anything of that nature. So I'd like to hear from you xbox lovers as to why the psn is so terrible compared. Though I prefer the xmb over xbl's interface, thats only my opinion and I'd rather not judge anything based on opinions. my opinion is that I can get everything xbl offers on my pc, and everything I need for online gaming on the psn, both of which are free. So what are the cold hard facts that make xbl worth it over free services?
Whats with all the PSN hate?
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It's that XBL users believe that since they pay they have to justify it and bash PSN. Even though PSN is a great free service.
Cross game chat for me is huge, I realize some people might not use it, but i use it alot.
Everything is way easier on 360, from inviting friends to your game, to sending messages all of it is easier on 360.
MSN, i dunno if anyone uses this but i actually like having MSN cause I can tell my friends to come play with me when they are on MSN and i'm on Xbox.
Xbox Live marketplace is a whole lot bettter organized, just like everyting is basically more organized on Live.
Another big thing for me is alot more people talk on Live than PSN, PSN feels like a ghost town to me. Also every single game has achievements on Live, not on PSN.
[QUOTE="patriots7672"]XBL is a better service in the end. Of course it is, since u have to pay. :( I doubt if XBL updates often. I can't even update my PS3 to the latest version due to connection problem.It's that XBL users believe that since they pay they have to justify it and bash PSN. Even though PSN is a great free service.
Racer850
Fanboys are going to bash because, well... that's what they do. Realistically, they're exaggerating. However, XBL is a better service.
Contrary to what other posters in this thread have suggested, it's not because I pay for that I think it's better. It's the other way around. I like it, so I pay what MS is asking.
In fact, I had the opportunity to not re-up and just stay with PSN. But I decided I liked XBL so much, I renewed my subscription. The party system, cross game invites, the community events and the thought and personnel they put behind the whole thing makes it feel like an actual service.
Damn right, screw the people who say it's useless, I use it a lot when I'm online, mainly for my friends.Cross game chat for me is huge, I realize some people might not use it, but i use it alot.
RAGINGxPONY
But I can see it being useless to them if they don't have friends:lol: or don't care for it.
Damn right, screw the people who say it's useless, I use it a lot when I'm online, mainly for my friends.[QUOTE="RAGINGxPONY"]
Cross game chat for me is huge, I realize some people might not use it, but i use it alot.
mitu123
But I can see it being useless to them if they don't have friends:lol: or don't care for it.
Having played LIVE and even steam, I have no time for the way PSN is set up. I just dont like it at all.
Jealousy -
- FREE - exclusives - Warhawk , Killzone 2 , LittleBigPlanet , Resistance 2 , Uncharted 2 , Socom , etc
- YEARLY ONLINE GAMING FEES - exclusives - Halo , Gears , and uhhhhhh , ummmmm ............... I can talk to my buddies wanytime I want!
I believe Sony caught everyone by surprise that they had so many fun online games to play this generation.It makes Live look grosslyinferior.
Party system: Most games on PSN have some kind of party system within the game. Resistance 2, for instance. I can join a party with other people (from my friends list, or clan, or just people i am in a match with) so that we can start new matches and all stay together and whatever. Why would you need a party system that extends beyond the game you are playing? If I'm playing Warhawk with some friends, and decide I want to play LBP, it's not like I'm gonna tell all my friends to quit playing Warhawk and switch games... I don't understand this feature.Fanboys are going to bash because, well... that's what they do. Realistically, they're exaggerating. However, XBL is a better service.
Contrary to what other posters in this thread have suggested, it's not because I pay for that I think it's better. It's the other way around. I like it, so I pay what MS is asking.
In fact, I had the opportunity to not re-up and just stay with PSN. But I decided I liked XBL so much, I renewed my subscription. The party system, cross game invites, the community events and the thought and personnel they put behind the whole thing makes it feel like an actual service.
VoodooHak
Live simply doesn't offer anything over PSN that is worth paying a few hundred dollars extra for over the course of the gen. That's a second console I could purchase blown on a service that should be free.
Party system: Most games on PSN have some kind of party system within the game. Resistance 2, for instance. I can join a party with other people (from my friends list, or clan, or just people i am in a match with) so that we can start new matches and all stay together and whatever. Why would you need a party system that extends beyond the game you are playing? If I'm playing Warhawk with some friends, and decide I want to play LBP, it's not like I'm gonna tell all my friends to quit playing Warhawk and switch games... I don't understand this feature.[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]
Fanboys are going to bash because, well... that's what they do. Realistically, they're exaggerating. However, XBL is a better service.
Contrary to what other posters in this thread have suggested, it's not because I pay for that I think it's better. It's the other way around. I like it, so I pay what MS is asking.
In fact, I had the opportunity to not re-up and just stay with PSN. But I decided I liked XBL so much, I renewed my subscription. The party system, cross game invites, the community events and the thought and personnel they put behind the whole thing makes it feel like an actual service.
ianuilliam
Live simply doesn't offer anything over PSN that is worth paying a few hundred dollars extra for over the course of the gen. That's a second console I could purchase blown on a service that should be free.
See I guess because you never got to experience the Party sysytem that's why you don't think it's good.
When I'm playing GTA just messing around going on a shooting rampage, would you rather be sitting there by yourself, or ina party chat chilling with all your friends? If you say by yourself than I guess you just like to be by yourself. (Not saying anything is wrong with that)
But really, I think if people who downplay Party chat, had it, they would definitley not say it's no good, because that is simply not true.
Is it worth the $50, well to me yes, maybe not to others.
Party system: Most games on PSN have some kind of party system within the game. Resistance 2, for instance. I can join a party with other people (from my friends list, or clan, or just people i am in a match with) so that we can start new matches and all stay together and whatever. Why would you need a party system that extends beyond the game you are playing? If I'm playing Warhawk with some friends, and decide I want to play LBP, it's not like I'm gonna tell all my friends to quit playing Warhawk and switch games... I don't understand this feature.[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]
Fanboys are going to bash because, well... that's what they do. Realistically, they're exaggerating. However, XBL is a better service.
Contrary to what other posters in this thread have suggested, it's not because I pay for that I think it's better. It's the other way around. I like it, so I pay what MS is asking.
In fact, I had the opportunity to not re-up and just stay with PSN. But I decided I liked XBL so much, I renewed my subscription. The party system, cross game invites, the community events and the thought and personnel they put behind the whole thing makes it feel like an actual service.
ianuilliam
Live simply doesn't offer anything over PSN that is worth paying a few hundred dollars extra for over the course of the gen. That's a second console I could purchase blown on a service that should be free.
The simple fact that you have to qualify your comment about parties with "most games" helps prove my point. It's implemented at the dashboard level, so it doesn't matter what you're doing on the console. The purpose is to be in contact with people you know. In reference to game launching. If you wanted to go play a different game, it'd be nice if the whole group decided to play it too, and you can do it. Or, you can go play that game and still be talking to your friends. Keeps the whole experience social.
Then you have online community events very prominantly displayed from the dashboard. Game with Fame, Community Playdate, game with devs all right there. Whereas on PSN, where are the listings for the events? Or do I have to launch into Home to check? Or fire up the browser and navigate through Playstation.com?
There are XBL community managers that not disseminate information, but are out there at game releases, industry events, meeting with industry as well as the community. Community developers help fan sites get XBL content on their sites. Xbox Live Ambassadors help steer XBL newbies in the right direction. The Gamerchix provide a safe haven for the female gamers out there. They also take responsibility for things that they're not even liable for. The MW2 javelin glitch for example. MS actively doled out suspensions for cheaters as they always do while Sony didn't seem to care.
So yeah... there's plenty of servicing going on. If you choose not to use any of it, that's all on you. If all you want to do is connect to a session and play with randoms, then maybe PSN is a better fit for you.
Lemmings came out of their caves after they heard about 360 outselling PS3 so now they want to bash as much as they can.
You don't have to pay for it so it gets hate
Party system: Most games on PSN have some kind of party system within the game. Resistance 2, for instance. I can join a party with other people (from my friends list, or clan, or just people i am in a match with) so that we can start new matches and all stay together and whatever. Why would you need a party system that extends beyond the game you are playing? If I'm playing Warhawk with some friends, and decide I want to play LBP, it's not like I'm gonna tell all my friends to quit playing Warhawk and switch games... I don't understand this feature.[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]
[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]
Fanboys are going to bash because, well... that's what they do. Realistically, they're exaggerating. However, XBL is a better service.
Contrary to what other posters in this thread have suggested, it's not because I pay for that I think it's better. It's the other way around. I like it, so I pay what MS is asking.
In fact, I had the opportunity to not re-up and just stay with PSN. But I decided I liked XBL so much, I renewed my subscription. The party system, cross game invites, the community events and the thought and personnel they put behind the whole thing makes it feel like an actual service.
VoodooHak
Live simply doesn't offer anything over PSN that is worth paying a few hundred dollars extra for over the course of the gen. That's a second console I could purchase blown on a service that should be free.
The simple fact that you have to qualify your comment about parties with "most games" helps prove my point. It's implemented at the dashboard level, so it doesn't matter what you're doing on the console. The purpose is to be in contact with people you know. In reference to game launching. If you wanted to go play a different game, it'd be nice if the whole group decided to play it too, and you can do it. Or, you can go play that game and still be talking to your friends. Keeps the whole experience social.
Then you have online community events very prominantly displayed from the dashboard. Game with Fame, Community Playdate, game with devs all right there. Whereas on PSN, where are the listings for the events? Or do I have to launch into Home to check? Or fire up the browser and navigate through Playstation.com?
There are XBL community managers that not disseminate information, but are out there at game releases, industry events, meeting with industry as well as the community. Community developers help fan sites get XBL content on their sites. Xbox Live Ambassadors help steer XBL newbies in the right direction. The Gamerchix provide a safe haven for the female gamers out there. They also take responsibility for things that they're not even liable for. The MW2 javelin glitch for example. MS actively doled out suspensions for cheaters as they always do while Sony didn't seem to care.
So yeah... there's plenty of servicing going on. If you choose not to use any of it, that's all on you. If all you want to do is connect to a session and play with randoms, then maybe PSN is a better fit for you.
Uh you play with randoms on 360 too. So that comment made no sense what so ever. Unless you have friends you are always playing with randoms. Again I see no difference with live and PSN besides the live cross game chat and party chat that live has over psn. When I had live for 2 years and some months all that community playdate with devs didint mean jack to me and it doesint now. When people say xbl swamps psn I just cant agree since I have experianced both and I do feel live is better but by just a bit not miles.
I am neither, I own both consoles. My purpose has nothing to do with what console is better, merely why everyone seems to bash the psn for little to no reason while claiming xbl is such an amazing service compared. We are all gamers here(obviously) so why should we have to compare **** sizes of companies? While I am sure maturity is something I wont get here, please leave the cow/lemmings comments to yourself. This is not high school.
man if only that logic train hit some wii haters, and why not all the rest of the hatersThe best things in life are free, and many people here can't live with that fact.
Don't own a PS3 console? Why would PSN even concern you all?
Gxgear
Uh you play with randoms on 360 too. So that comment made no sense what so ever. Unless you have friends you are always playing with randoms. Again I see no difference with live and PSN besides the live cross game chat and party chat that live has over psn. When I had live for 2 years and some months all that community playdate with devs didint mean jack to me and it doesint now.
finalfantasy94
OF course I know you can do that on the 360 too. But you can do so much more on it. Nowadays, I play with randoms maybe a quarter of the time. And if I do, I usually have at least one friend with me.... either invited through cross game invite system or Party system.
That's fine that you didn't take advantage of the community events, but that's all you. I personally enjoy getting a chance to play with devs or with people from the fan sites out there.
Like I said, if you want the less robust experience, then PSN seems right for you. You've only helped prove my point.
Party system: Most games on PSN have some kind of party system within the game. Resistance 2, for instance. I can join a party with other people (from my friends list, or clan, or just people i am in a match with) so that we can start new matches and all stay together and whatever. Why would you need a party system that extends beyond the game you are playing? If I'm playing Warhawk with some friends, and decide I want to play LBP, it's not like I'm gonna tell all my friends to quit playing Warhawk and switch games... I don't understand this feature.[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]
[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]
Fanboys are going to bash because, well... that's what they do. Realistically, they're exaggerating. However, XBL is a better service.
Contrary to what other posters in this thread have suggested, it's not because I pay for that I think it's better. It's the other way around. I like it, so I pay what MS is asking.
In fact, I had the opportunity to not re-up and just stay with PSN. But I decided I liked XBL so much, I renewed my subscription. The party system, cross game invites, the community events and the thought and personnel they put behind the whole thing makes it feel like an actual service.
VoodooHak
Live simply doesn't offer anything over PSN that is worth paying a few hundred dollars extra for over the course of the gen. That's a second console I could purchase blown on a service that should be free.
The simple fact that you have to qualify your comment about parties with "most games" helps prove my point. It's implemented at the dashboard level, so it doesn't matter what you're doing on the console. The purpose is to be in contact with people you know. In reference to game launching. If you wanted to go play a different game, it'd be nice if the whole group decided to play it too, and you can do it. Or, you can go play that game and still be talking to your friends. Keeps the whole experience social.
Then you have online community events very prominantly displayed from the dashboard. Game with Fame, Community Playdate, game with devs all right there. Whereas on PSN, where are the listings for the events? Or do I have to launch into Home to check? Or fire up the browser and navigate through Playstation.com?
There are XBL community managers that not disseminate information, but are out there at game releases, industry events, meeting with industry as well as the community. Community developers help fan sites get XBL content on their sites. Xbox Live Ambassadors help steer XBL newbies in the right direction. The Gamerchix provide a safe haven for the female gamers out there. They also take responsibility for things that they're not even liable for. The MW2 javelin glitch for example. MS actively doled out suspensions for cheaters as they always do while Sony didn't seem to care.
So yeah... there's plenty of servicing going on. If you choose not to use any of it, that's all on you. If all you want to do is connect to a session and play with randoms, then maybe PSN is a better fit for you.
Sony don't have power to dedect that, since they don't have access to IW servers that MW2 game session menagment running.
Because you can only play games with random people on PSN.So yeah... there's plenty of servicing going on. If you choose not to use any of it, that's all on you. If all you want to do is connect to a session and play with randoms, then maybe PSN is a better fit for you.
VoodooHak
[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]
Uh you play with randoms on 360 too. So that comment made no sense what so ever. Unless you have friends you are always playing with randoms. Again I see no difference with live and PSN besides the live cross game chat and party chat that live has over psn. When I had live for 2 years and some months all that community playdate with devs didint mean jack to me and it doesint now.
VoodooHak
OF course I know you can do that on the 360 too. But you can do so much more on it. Nowadays, I play with randoms maybe a quarter of the time. And if I do, I usually have at least one friend with me.... either invited through cross game invite system or Party system.
That's fine that you didn't take advantage of the community events, but that's all you. I personally enjoy getting a chance to play with devs or with people from the fan sites out there.
Like I said, if you want the less robust experience, then PSN seems right for you. You've only helped prove my point.
So I like less robust experiance since I dont want to play with a dev or freaking werid al? Thats doesint make any sense. Well from what you said it seems you have a good amount of friends on live so you rarely play with randoms. That has nothing to do with the service. It has to do if you have friends on live or psn.
[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]
[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]
Uh you play with randoms on 360 too. So that comment made no sense what so ever. Unless you have friends you are always playing with randoms. Again I see no difference with live and PSN besides the live cross game chat and party chat that live has over psn. When I had live for 2 years and some months all that community playdate with devs didint mean jack to me and it doesint now.
finalfantasy94
OF course I know you can do that on the 360 too. But you can do so much more on it. Nowadays, I play with randoms maybe a quarter of the time. And if I do, I usually have at least one friend with me.... either invited through cross game invite system or Party system.
That's fine that you didn't take advantage of the community events, but that's all you. I personally enjoy getting a chance to play with devs or with people from the fan sites out there.
Like I said, if you want the less robust experience, then PSN seems right for you. You've only helped prove my point.
So I like less robust experiance since I dont want to play with a dev or freaking werid al? Thats doesint make any sense. Well from what you said it seems you have a good amount of friends on live so you rarely play with randoms. That has nothing to do with the service. It has to do if you have friends on live or psn.
Did I hurt your feelings or something? There's nothing wrong with preferring PSN over XBL.
Having an ample friends list has everything to do with the way Xbox Live is set up. I meet people through those community events. I get to find about those fan sites through those events. I retain current friends by employing the Party system and game invite system. The point is that the system keeps me connected and provides plenty of opportunity to find new people to add to my friends list.
Sony don't have power to dedect that, since they don't have access to IW servers that MW2 game session menagment running.
ShadowriverUB
Of course they don't. MS sure doesn't have to. Neither are required to lift a finger. But one of them is sure doing more than the other. Just shows more a more active concern for the gaming community and the integrity of the service.
MW2 doesn't live in a vacuum. If people have a bad experience in that game, people associate that bad experience with XBL as well whether they 're conscious of it or not. It's human nature. Even if it's not true for everyone, I'm glad to see that MS would rather put out the effort just to be sure.
LIke I said, one is doing something. The other, nada.
Because you can only play games with random people on PSN.[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]
So yeah... there's plenty of servicing going on. If you choose not to use any of it, that's all on you. If all you want to do is connect to a session and play with randoms, then maybe PSN is a better fit for you.
ianuilliam
Oh, I'm well aware that PSN has a party feature on a game-by-game basis and that games like DIRT2 are leading the charge with a more universal implentation of cross-game invites.
My point was that MS just does it much better. I can stay connected with my friends much more easily on XBL.
Community events? Really? I guess lemmings really are reaching to justify Live's price.Dystopian-X
Really? Is that all you have? I gave plenty of other reasons and THAT's what you focus on?
You know, PSN has events as well. Just not as many and not as well-publicized. All I know is that one is more conducive in forming a community... the other isn't.
BTW, you can check my other reasons as well... posted conveniently for you in this very thread.
I am neither, I own both consoles. My purpose has nothing to do with what console is better, merely why everyone seems to bash the psn for little to no reason while claiming xbl is such an amazing service compared. We are all gamers here(obviously) so why should we have to compare **** sizes of companies? While I am sure maturity is something I wont get here, please leave the cow/lemmings comments to yourself. This is not high school.
Chubith
To be clear, don't bash PSN. I use plenty and have a nice-sized friends list as well..which is why I think I can offer a qualified opinion on both. PSN is just fine. But I also recognize that Xbox Live is better.
[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]
[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]
OF course I know you can do that on the 360 too. But you can do so much more on it. Nowadays, I play with randoms maybe a quarter of the time. And if I do, I usually have at least one friend with me.... either invited through cross game invite system or Party system.
That's fine that you didn't take advantage of the community events, but that's all you. I personally enjoy getting a chance to play with devs or with people from the fan sites out there.
Like I said, if you want the less robust experience, then PSN seems right for you. You've only helped prove my point.
VoodooHak
So I like less robust experiance since I dont want to play with a dev or freaking werid al? Thats doesint make any sense. Well from what you said it seems you have a good amount of friends on live so you rarely play with randoms. That has nothing to do with the service. It has to do if you have friends on live or psn.
Did I hurt your feelings or something? There's nothing wrong with preferring PSN over XBL.
Having an ample friends list has everything to do with the way Xbox Live is set up. I meet people through those community events. I get to find about those fan sites through those events. I retain current friends by employing the Party system and game invite system. The point is that the system keeps me connected and provides plenty of opportunity to find new people to add to my friends list.
I have plenty of friends on my PSN from actual RL, or that I've known for years from past MMO's and the like. I also get friend invites from people I meet in random games. And If I really cared to go just chill in a community and socialize in order to meet people, there's always Home, which, say what you want about it (I think it's kinda lame, myself, just like I think Second Life is lame), is a better purely social networking service than anything on Live. And still free. Plenty of ways to meet people to add as friends on PSN too, and as the other poster said playing with randoms vs playing with friends has nothing to do with which service (and whether you are paying for it), it's just a matter of whether you have a lot of active friends or not. I have friends on 360 with far fewer friends on LIVE as I have on PSN.Yes, I have to pick on this one because you put so much emphasis on it, it's sure seems like reaching, kinda like when cows tried to justify the $600 price tag back then.Really? Is that all you have? I gave plenty of other reasons and THAT's what you focus on?
You know, PSN has events as well. Just not as many and not as well-publicized. All I know is that one is more conducive in forming a community... the other isn't.
BTW, you can check my other reasons as well... posted conveniently for you in this very thread.
VoodooHak
To be clear, don't bash PSN. I use plenty and have a nice-sized friends list as well..which is why I think I can offer a qualified opinion on both. PSN is just fine. But I also recognize that Xbox Live is better.
VoodooHak
I never once claimed the psn was the better service. From my own experience xbl is far more community oriented. But at the same time I can get the exact same functions out of my pc, and I dont have to pay. I am not saying I cant afford xbl, just that I dont see reasons why I should have to pay for something that has always been free on my pc and for the most part I get for free on the psn. I am not bashing either service, just trying to find a reason to actually reactivate my xbl service. :)
[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]
[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]
OF course I know you can do that on the 360 too. But you can do so much more on it. Nowadays, I play with randoms maybe a quarter of the time. And if I do, I usually have at least one friend with me.... either invited through cross game invite system or Party system.
That's fine that you didn't take advantage of the community events, but that's all you. I personally enjoy getting a chance to play with devs or with people from the fan sites out there.
Like I said, if you want the less robust experience, then PSN seems right for you. You've only helped prove my point.
VoodooHak
So I like less robust experiance since I dont want to play with a dev or freaking werid al? Thats doesint make any sense. Well from what you said it seems you have a good amount of friends on live so you rarely play with randoms. That has nothing to do with the service. It has to do if you have friends on live or psn.
Did I hurt your feelings or something? There's nothing wrong with preferring PSN over XBL.
Having an ample friends list has everything to do with the wayXbox Liveis set up. I meet people through those community events. I get to find about those fan sites through those events. I retain current friends by employing the Party system and game invite system. The point is that the system keeps me connected and provides plenty of opportunity to find new people to add to my friends list.
You say live is better at it cause you meet people through live community eventsand I meet people through bords and playing on psn. Doesint make it better it jsut a different way to meet someone.On the feelings thing no you didint. Your just trying to say I dont likerobust things just cause I dont like to use what you use.
[QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"]Because PSN is a crappy online service. Sony is horrible at online. Very low userbase. XBL >>> PSNFIipModeI'm considering putting this in my sig.:lol:
Lol, that can't beat your current sig...which is funny as hell
[QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"]Because PSN is a crappy online service. Sony is horrible at online. Very low userbase. XBL >>> PSNFIipModeI'm considering putting this in my sig.:lol:
Same.
I'm just waiting to bash on some lemming that thinks that we will have to pay online too... :p
[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]
[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]Party system: Most games on PSN have some kind of party system within the game. Resistance 2, for instance. I can join a party with other people (from my friends list, or clan, or just people i am in a match with) so that we can start new matches and all stay together and whatever. Why would you need a party system that extends beyond the game you are playing? If I'm playing Warhawk with some friends, and decide I want to play LBP, it's not like I'm gonna tell all my friends to quit playing Warhawk and switch games... I don't understand this feature.
Live simply doesn't offer anything over PSN that is worth paying a few hundred dollars extra for over the course of the gen. That's a second console I could purchase blown on a service that should be free.
ShadowriverUB
The simple fact that you have to qualify your comment about parties with "most games" helps prove my point. It's implemented at the dashboard level, so it doesn't matter what you're doing on the console. The purpose is to be in contact with people you know. In reference to game launching. If you wanted to go play a different game, it'd be nice if the whole group decided to play it too, and you can do it. Or, you can go play that game and still be talking to your friends. Keeps the whole experience social.
Then you have online community events very prominantly displayed from the dashboard. Game with Fame, Community Playdate, game with devs all right there. Whereas on PSN, where are the listings for the events? Or do I have to launch into Home to check? Or fire up the browser and navigate through Playstation.com?
There are XBL community managers that not disseminate information, but are out there at game releases, industry events, meeting with industry as well as the community. Community developers help fan sites get XBL content on their sites. Xbox Live Ambassadors help steer XBL newbies in the right direction. The Gamerchix provide a safe haven for the female gamers out there. They also take responsibility for things that they're not even liable for. The MW2 javelin glitch for example. MS actively doled out suspensions for cheaters as they always do while Sony didn't seem to care.
So yeah... there's plenty of servicing going on. If you choose not to use any of it, that's all on you. If all you want to do is connect to a session and play with randoms, then maybe PSN is a better fit for you.
Sony don't have power to dedect that, since they don't have access to IW servers that MW2 game session menagment running.
I'd also add that its not Sony's problem that IW doesn't patch the game to stop it from happening.
I'm considering putting this in my sig.:lol:[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"]Because PSN is a crappy online service. Sony is horrible at online. Very low userbase. XBL >>> PSNKillerWabbit23
Same.
I'm just waiting to bash on some lemming that thinks that we will have to pay online too... :p
Many users prefer to play it on Xbox Live than on PlayStation Network. Having an install base around 8 million more than the PS3. The subscription fee allows Microsoft to create a better, more robust service with more features. With things like Facebook, Netflix, Twitter and Last.fm, they more value into what a Gold subscription brings to the table. For a lot of people, paying $50 year for multiplayer is fine. Only $4 a month; you get a better, less-crappier service, has cross-game chat rather than PSN 8)With things like Facebook, Netflix, Twitter and Last.fm, they more value into what a Gold subscription brings to the table. For a lot of people, paying $50 year for multiplayer is fine. Only $4 a month; you get a better, less-crappier service, has cross-game chat rather than PSN 8)BloodSeeker1337
Lets see...
Facebook: I can access the full normal version of Facebook with the same interface I'm used to from PC using the PS3 internet browser, not some half-featured version using the xbox interface. And if I want, I can have PSN post notices on my Facebook for trophies and things like that, just like the 360 Facebook integration. Oh, and it's free.
Twitter: Pretty much same as above. Full integrated web browser > tacked on feature. Oh, and it's still free.
Multiplayer: Paying $50 for multiplayer may be fine for a lot of people. I'd rather buy an extra game every year, and get the multiplayer... for free.
Cross-game chat: Really, this is what it comes down to. The only real feature Live has over PSN. If you really think cross-game chat is worth $50 a year, good for you. You can keep it.
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]Party system: Most games on PSN have some kind of party system within the game. Resistance 2, for instance. I can join a party with other people (from my friends list, or clan, or just people i am in a match with) so that we can start new matches and all stay together and whatever. Why would you need a party system that extends beyond the game you are playing? If I'm playing Warhawk with some friends, and decide I want to play LBP, it's not like I'm gonna tell all my friends to quit playing Warhawk and switch games... I don't understand this feature.
Live simply doesn't offer anything over PSN that is worth paying a few hundred dollars extra for over the course of the gen. That's a second console I could purchase blown on a service that should be free.
The simple fact that you have to qualify your comment about parties with "most games" helps prove my point. It's implemented at the dashboard level, so it doesn't matter what you're doing on the console. The purpose is to be in contact with people you know. In reference to game launching. If you wanted to go play a different game, it'd be nice if the whole group decided to play it too, and you can do it. Or, you can go play that game and still be talking to your friends. Keeps the whole experience social.
Then you have online community events very prominantly displayed from the dashboard. Game with Fame, Community Playdate, game with devs all right there. Whereas on PSN, where are the listings for the events? Or do I have to launch into Home to check? Or fire up the browser and navigate through Playstation.com?
There are XBL community managers that not disseminate information, but are out there at game releases, industry events, meeting with industry as well as the community. Community developers help fan sites get XBL content on their sites. Xbox Live Ambassadors help steer XBL newbies in the right direction. The Gamerchix provide a safe haven for the female gamers out there. They also take responsibility for things that they're not even liable for. The MW2 javelin glitch for example. MS actively doled out suspensions for cheaters as they always do while Sony didn't seem to care.
So yeah... there's plenty of servicing going on. If you choose not to use any of it, that's all on you. If all you want to do is connect to a session and play with randoms, then maybe PSN is a better fit for you.
Uh you play with randoms on 360 too. So that comment made no sense what so ever. Unless you have friends you are always playing with randoms. Again I see no difference with live and PSN besides the live cross game chat and party chat that live has over psn. When I had live for 2 years and some months all that community playdate with devs didint mean jack to me and it doesint now. When people say xbl swamps psn I just cant agree since I have experianced both and I do feel live is better but by just a bit not miles.
most of the features of live are built in, truskill voice chat, party, party chat, so the dev's can just use it. On psn its up to the dev to include most features, in fact if you look at a game like armored core, low budget, when it came out for ps3 it didn't support voice chat. There was an old article I doubt i can find it now, but a dev was talking about how they didin't need to leave room for certian things, like voice chat, since thy can use live. Not only are we helping the dev's out a little, we are getting a standard of features integrated in almost all games for xbox, thats the biggest difference between live and psn. Also M$ acts as an admin, which is nice, where ps3 is not only easier to cheat on since you have access to any save files, (i did with armored core shhhh...) but sony does nothing to stop any one from cheating.[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]
[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]Party system: Most games on PSN have some kind of party system within the game. Resistance 2, for instance. I can join a party with other people (from my friends list, or clan, or just people i am in a match with) so that we can start new matches and all stay together and whatever. Why would you need a party system that extends beyond the game you are playing? If I'm playing Warhawk with some friends, and decide I want to play LBP, it's not like I'm gonna tell all my friends to quit playing Warhawk and switch games... I don't understand this feature.
Live simply doesn't offer anything over PSN that is worth paying a few hundred dollars extra for over the course of the gen. That's a second console I could purchase blown on a service that should be free.
The simple fact that you have to qualify your comment about parties with "most games" helps prove my point. It's implemented at the dashboard level, so it doesn't matter what you're doing on the console. The purpose is to be in contact with people you know. In reference to game launching. If you wanted to go play a different game, it'd be nice if the whole group decided to play it too, and you can do it. Or, you can go play that game and still be talking to your friends. Keeps the whole experience social.
Then you have online community events very prominantly displayed from the dashboard. Game with Fame, Community Playdate, game with devs all right there. Whereas on PSN, where are the listings for the events? Or do I have to launch into Home to check? Or fire up the browser and navigate through Playstation.com?
There are XBL community managers that not disseminate information, but are out there at game releases, industry events, meeting with industry as well as the community. Community developers help fan sites get XBL content on their sites. Xbox Live Ambassadors help steer XBL newbies in the right direction. The Gamerchix provide a safe haven for the female gamers out there. They also take responsibility for things that they're not even liable for. The MW2 javelin glitch for example. MS actively doled out suspensions for cheaters as they always do while Sony didn't seem to care.
So yeah... there's plenty of servicing going on. If you choose not to use any of it, that's all on you. If all you want to do is connect to a session and play with randoms, then maybe PSN is a better fit for you.
Sony don't have power to dedect that, since they don't have access to IW servers that MW2 game session menagment running.
Its sony's service, and sony is effectively the admin for their service, therefore its their responsibility to help regulate cheaters. The patch also has to go through a testing and approval by sony. And patches don't just appear randomly, sometimes they take time to debug and figure out what is wrong, then they have to write the patch. Sony's the only one that can protect their player base from cheaters, so who in their right mind would defend sony for not giving a ****, and letting them player grief as much as they want.PSN is a pretty solid online service that just happens to lack many of the bells and whistles offered by Xbox Live such as in-game chat, in-game announcements etc.
I think the source of most people's complaints is the relative barrenness of the the PlayStation Store compared to the wide range of third party titles on the Xbox Live Arcade, which has recently been expanded to include indie games. What's more is that (although things aren't as bad as they were), Xbox Live users always had some exciting demos of unreleased games to look forward to while PSN users were often left with the scraps month or two later.
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The simple fact that you have to qualify your comment about parties with "most games" helps prove my point. It's implemented at the dashboard level, so it doesn't matter what you're doing on the console. The purpose is to be in contact with people you know. In reference to game launching. If you wanted to go play a different game, it'd be nice if the whole group decided to play it too, and you can do it. Or, you can go play that game and still be talking to your friends. Keeps the whole experience social.
Then you have online community events very prominantly displayed from the dashboard. Game with Fame, Community Playdate, game with devs all right there. Whereas on PSN, where are the listings for the events? Or do I have to launch into Home to check? Or fire up the browser and navigate through Playstation.com?
There are XBL community managers that not disseminate information, but are out there at game releases, industry events, meeting with industry as well as the community. Community developers help fan sites get XBL content on their sites. Xbox Live Ambassadors help steer XBL newbies in the right direction. The Gamerchix provide a safe haven for the female gamers out there. They also take responsibility for things that they're not even liable for. The MW2 javelin glitch for example. MS actively doled out suspensions for cheaters as they always do while Sony didn't seem to care.
So yeah... there's plenty of servicing going on. If you choose not to use any of it, that's all on you. If all you want to do is connect to a session and play with randoms, then maybe PSN is a better fit for you.
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Uh you play with randoms on 360 too. So that comment made no sense what so ever. Unless you have friends you are always playing with randoms. Again I see no difference with live and PSN besides the live cross game chat and party chat that live has over psn. When I had live for 2 years and some months all that community playdate with devs didint mean jack to me and it doesint now. When people say xbl swamps psn I just cant agree since I have experianced both and I do feel live is better but by just a bit not miles.
most of the features of live are built in, truskill voice chat, party, party chat, so the dev's can just use it. On psn its up to the dev to include most features, in fact if you look at a game like armored core, low budget, when it came out for ps3 it didn't support voice chat. There was an old article I doubt i can find it now, but a dev was talking about how they didin't need to leave room for certian things, like voice chat, since thy can use live. Not only are we helping the dev's out a little, we are getting a standard of features integrated in almost all games for xbox, thats the biggest difference between live and psn. Also M$ acts as an admin, which is nice, where ps3 is not only easier to cheat on since you have access to any save files, (i did with armored core shhhh...) but sony does nothing to stop any one from cheating.Almost all games that are online have copy-protected save files. And as for cheating? I think it's pretty common knowledge which console has the bigger problem with modders/hackers/pirates. Isn't that why MS just had to ban some million or so users? And did I read that right? Are you implying ownage by which console had the superior version of Armored Core?If you take away the price aspect then yes XBL>PSN. When you add the XBL fees it's a different thing. It's simply up to consumer to debate whether $50 a year is a justifiable service. To me it is but some people many dissagree. I still think that PSN is good but to me I would still pay the XBL fees.
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