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#1 liquidsnake1987
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everything on that site is disabled, i want to add three article links for MGS4 that havent added but everything is disabled. It seems like they are adding the bad reviews for MGS4 and leaving out the good ones.

Gameplayer 100

kikizo 100

Gaming trend 93

these reviews have been out for some time now.

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#2 WAIW
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They accepted two of those on Metacritic :|
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#3 liquidsnake1987
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nobody uses metacritic here, they count every site no matter how crappy it is
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#4 WeAreBorn
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Don't cry because MGS4 is only at 93.
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#5 liquidsnake1987
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Don't cry because MGS4 is only at 93.WeAreBorn
haha i was waiting for a comment like this
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#6 lolkie_81
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nobody uses metacritic here, they count every site no matter how crappy it isliquidsnake1987

Nobody uses gamerankings either.:| We use gamespot.;)

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#7 liquidsnake1987
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[QUOTE="liquidsnake1987"]nobody uses metacritic here, they count every site no matter how crappy it islolkie_81

Nobody uses gamerankings either.:| We use gamespot.;)

if u look back lemmings lately have been using gamerankings, although i agree with u
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#8 Willy105
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Metacritic is awful.
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#9 lancea34
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Metacritic is awful.Willy105

I agree. Gamerankings is better.;)

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#10 Riverwolf007
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The conspiracy just keeps on....conspiring.

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#11 knight-k
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Who cares MGS4=10, it owns every exclusive game on any console this gen.
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#12 WeAreBorn
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Who cares MGS4=10, it owns every exclusive game on any console this gen.knight-k

MGS 4 = 93 at Gamerankings, and is getting its ass kicked by games like Gears.

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#13 jg4xchamp
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nobody uses metacritic here, they count every site no matter how crappy it isliquidsnake1987
WHat bull crap its the other way around.

Metacritic uses less stupid sites.

Metacritic>Gamerankings.
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[QUOTE="knight-k"]Who cares MGS4=10, it owns every exclusive game on any console this gen.WeAreBorn

MGS 4 = 93 at Gamerankings, and is getting its ass kicked by games like Gears.

Thats great but, WE DONT USE GAMERANKINGS. Mgs4 got a 10 deal with it. If you agree with it or not thats just how it is.

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#15 WeAreBorn
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[QUOTE="WeAreBorn"]

[QUOTE="knight-k"]Who cares MGS4=10, it owns every exclusive game on any console this gen.lolkie_81

MGS 4 = 93 at Gamerankings, and is getting its ass kicked by games like Gears.

Thats great but, WE DONT USE GAMERANKINGS. Mgs4 got a 10 deal with it. If you agree with it or not thats just how it is.

GameSpot =/= the "I know everything site", deal with it. Gears > MGS4 in terms of average scores.

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#16 lolkie_81
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[QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="WeAreBorn"]

[QUOTE="knight-k"]Who cares MGS4=10, it owns every exclusive game on any console this gen.WeAreBorn

MGS 4 = 93 at Gamerankings, and is getting its ass kicked by games like Gears.

Thats great but, WE DONT USE GAMERANKINGS. Mgs4 got a 10 deal with it. If you agree with it or not thats just how it is.

GameSpot =/= the "I know everything site", deal with it. Gears > MGS4 in terms of average scores.

I prefer gears to mgs4, I think its a better game. I enjoyed it more, and still play online. I can also accept that mgs4 got a 10 and move on with my life.

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[QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="WeAreBorn"]

[QUOTE="knight-k"]Who cares MGS4=10, it owns every exclusive game on any console this gen.WeAreBorn

MGS 4 = 93 at Gamerankings, and is getting its ass kicked by games like Gears.

Thats great but, WE DONT USE GAMERANKINGS. Mgs4 got a 10 deal with it. If you agree with it or not thats just how it is.

GameSpot =/= the "I know everything site", deal with it. Gears > MGS4 in terms of average scores.

Average scores? I didn't know GameSpot used that...

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#19 WeAreBorn
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[QUOTE="WeAreBorn"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="WeAreBorn"]

[QUOTE="knight-k"]Who cares MGS4=10, it owns every exclusive game on any console this gen.gasmaskman

MGS 4 = 93 at Gamerankings, and is getting its ass kicked by games like Gears.

Thats great but, WE DONT USE GAMERANKINGS. Mgs4 got a 10 deal with it. If you agree with it or not thats just how it is.

GameSpot =/= the "I know everything site", deal with it. Gears > MGS4 in terms of average scores.

Average scores? I didn't know GameSpot used that...

Gamerankings

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#20 WeAreBorn
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[QUOTE="WeAreBorn"]

[QUOTE="knight-k"]Who cares MGS4=10, it owns every exclusive game on any console this gen.knight-k

MGS 4 = 93 at Gamerankings, and is getting its ass kicked by games like Gears.

HAHAHA, a crying lemming.

MGS4=10=FACT

MGS = 93 = FACT, LOL

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#21 lolkie_81
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Thats great but, WE DONT USE GAMERANKINGS. Mgs4 got a 10 deal with it. If you agree with it or not thats just how it is.

GameSpot =/= the "I know everything site", deal with it. Gears > MGS4 in terms of average scores.

Average scores? I didn't know GameSpot used that...

Gamerankings

Time to give it up.....

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#22 JIT93
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Whatever happened to "Gamespot Counts" rule? :|
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#23 knight-k
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[QUOTE="knight-k"][QUOTE="WeAreBorn"]

[QUOTE="knight-k"]Who cares MGS4=10, it owns every exclusive game on any console this gen.WeAreBorn

MGS 4 = 93 at Gamerankings, and is getting its ass kicked by games like Gears.

HAHAHA, a crying lemming.

MGS4=10=FACT

MGS = 93 = FACT, LOL

ROFL, not giving up, just accept that MGS4 owns every game on 360 and wii.

MGS4=10

Gears and co not. Now go cry... looool!

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#24 punkrocker163
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lemmings going back on their word about GS only?
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#25 rolo107
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[QUOTE="lolkie_81"]

[QUOTE="liquidsnake1987"]nobody uses metacritic here, they count every site no matter how crappy it isliquidsnake1987

Nobody uses gamerankings either.:| We use gamespot.;)

if u look back lemmings lately have been using gamerankings, although i agree with u

Cows have used it frequently in the past to prove they have AAAE....

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#26 lolkie_81
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[QUOTE="liquidsnake1987"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"]

[QUOTE="liquidsnake1987"]nobody uses metacritic here, they count every site no matter how crappy it isrolo107

Nobody uses gamerankings either.:| We use gamespot.;)

if u look back lemmings lately have been using gamerankings, although i agree with u

Cows have used it frequently in the past to prove they have AAAE....

So what, no one cared. Just like no one cares now.

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#27 st1ka
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metacritic is better than gamerankings, at least metacritic is consistent
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#28 facebooker
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gs review is only one person's opinion, why do some sony fanboys worship it so much? gamerankings is the place to go since it shows the average of multiple reviews
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#29 st1ka
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[QUOTE="WeAreBorn"][QUOTE="knight-k"][QUOTE="WeAreBorn"]

[QUOTE="knight-k"]Who cares MGS4=10, it owns every exclusive game on any console this gen.knight-k

MGS 4 = 93 at Gamerankings, and is getting its ass kicked by games like Gears.

HAHAHA, a crying lemming.

MGS4=10=FACT

MGS = 93 = FACT, LOL

ROFL, not giving up, just accept that MGS4 owns every game on 360 and wii.

MGS4=10

Gears and co not. Now go cry... looool!

:|

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#30 -Karmum-
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This is GameSpot, not GameRankings. If you want to compare GameRanking scores, do so and leave Gamespot and post at GR.

...please do.

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#31 lolkie_81
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gs review is only one person's opinion, why do some sony fanboys worship it so much? gamerankings is the place to go since it shows the average of multiple reviewsfacebooker

I dont think people worship it, at least I dont thats just the way it is here. Keeps things simple, I dont always agree with there scores either but I accept it at least on these forums. When I buy games I dont use GS scores as law. I read a few different sites.

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[QUOTE="WeAreBorn"][QUOTE="knight-k"][QUOTE="WeAreBorn"]

[QUOTE="knight-k"]Who cares MGS4=10, it owns every exclusive game on any console this gen.knight-k

MGS 4 = 93 at Gamerankings, and is getting its ass kicked by games like Gears.

HAHAHA, a crying lemming.

MGS4=10=FACT

MGS = 93 = FACT, LOL

ROFL, not giving up, just accept that MGS4 owns every game on 360 and wii.

MGS4=10

Gears and co not. Now go cry... looool!

Its ok children calm down mummy will come to tuck you into bed soon.

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#33 deactivated-5fc39ee132cf4
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I thought they'd both be much the same, since they're part of the Cnet network.
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#34 Tylendal
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[QUOTE="facebooker"]gs review is only one person's opinion, why do some sony fanboys worship it so much? gamerankings is the place to go since it shows the average of multiple reviewslolkie_81

I dont think people worship it, at least I dont thats just the way it is here. Keeps things simple, I dont always agree with there scores either but I accept it at least on these forums. When I buy games I dont use GS scores as law. I read a few different sites.

So you yourself admit that Gamespot reviews aren't necisarilly indicative of the true quality of a game. If, theoretically, Gamespot gave a game a score of about 6, and it's average on GameRankings, MetaCritic, etc is much higher, AA or AAA, then, other than for comparing it to the official hype, it shouldn't be considered a mediocre game. Or, if a person is trying to say that that theoretical game is a good game, and someone responds with the fact that Gamespot rated it 6, the first person should be able to respond with saying that it's AA on Gamerankings. The reason for this is, going exclusively by Gamespot reviews basically means that you consider Gamespot to be the last word in a games quality as far as discussing within the forums is concerned. This is a very flawed system.

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I thought they'd both be much the same, since they're part of the Cnet network.Neontope

The ironic part is that Gamespot actually refers to the Gamerankings score on the review pages for games.

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[QUOTE="WeAreBorn"][QUOTE="knight-k"][QUOTE="WeAreBorn"]

[QUOTE="knight-k"]Who cares MGS4=10, it owns every exclusive game on any console this gen.knight-k

MGS 4 = 93 at Gamerankings, and is getting its ass kicked by games like Gears.

HAHAHA, a crying lemming.

MGS4=10=FACT

MGS = 93 = FACT, LOL

ROFL, not giving up, just accept that MGS4 owns every game on 360 and wii.

MGS4=10

Gears and co not. Now go cry... looool!

this is like a very sh!te game of literary internet ping pong.

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#37 Cipher92
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[QUOTE="WeAreBorn"]Don't cry because MGS4 is only at 93.liquidsnake1987
haha i was waiting for a comment like this

Seems like you're upset that MGS4 only got 93. Unfortunately, the TC's attempt to "pad" the score a little higher has failed. Guess cows gotta face the fact that the overall concensus of MGS4 is only 93% and not 11/10 like ign says or 10/10 like gamespot says. Those two web sites seemed to rate the game based on hype anyways. I mean take GTA4 for example, has glitches. How can ANY game with even ONE glitch get a perfect score?
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#38 ganon546
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Personally I used to use gamerankings but now I just compile reviews from just IGN, GameSpot, and Game Informer to judge games.
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[QUOTE="WeAreBorn"][QUOTE="knight-k"][QUOTE="WeAreBorn"]

[QUOTE="knight-k"]Who cares MGS4=10, it owns every exclusive game on any console this gen.knight-k

MGS 4 = 93 at Gamerankings, and is getting its ass kicked by games like Gears.

HAHAHA, a crying lemming.

MGS4=10=FACT

MGS = 93 = FACT, LOL

ROFL, not giving up, just accept that MGS4 owns every game on 360 and wii.

MGS4=10

Gears and co not. Now go cry... looool!



its cluster of regulars formed their heriarchy of rules and dogma and i can honestly say that the SW "rules" are garbage. why would any sane person argue to have discourse that excludes the real world? keep your "officially" sanctioned bragging rights. id rather make sense
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its cluster of regulars formed their heriarchy of rules and dogma and i can honestly say that the SW "rules" are garbage. why would any sane person argue to have discourse that excludes the real world? keep your "officially" sanctioned bragging rights. id rather make senseliberty71441

Thanks for putting into words what I've been trying to say in every thread on this issue.

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#42 jharv
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It goes like this

If an exclusive game is rated higher on Gamerankings but lower than Gamespot (ala Twilight Princess) people will use Game rankings

If an exclusive game is rated lower on Gamerankings but higher on Gamespot (ala MGS4) people will use Gamespot.

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#43 subrosian
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Anyone who uses aggregated reviews given the number of times the statistical deception employed by all of the sites that create them has been demonstrated... and the stupidity of utilizing numerical scoring as a quality-indicator has been showcased... and when legitimate review sites have been tryign to move away from doing so... well, there's no other word for it: they're an idiot.

The site may be being freaky, but frankly let's not ignore the bigger problem: aggregated review scores are the schizophrenia of the gaming world - a mental cancer that distorts reality, destroys reason, and shatters meaning.

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#44 subrosian
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[QUOTE="liberty71441"]



its cluster of regulars formed their heriarchy of rules and dogma and i can honestly say that the SW "rules" are garbage. why would any sane person argue to have discourse that excludes the real world? keep your "officially" sanctioned bragging rights. id rather make senseTylendal

Thanks for putting into words what I've been trying to say in every thread on this issue.

The official rule (as voted in) on GameSpot is anarchy - forever, permanent, anarchy. Neither sales nor review scores may be used to declare the "winner" of a generation, nor their combination, nor any derivative, be it aggregated data or otherwise. By making anarchy the rule we effectively prevented idiots from trying to define reality by numbers made up by random people.

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#45 bungie93
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everything on that site is disabled, i want to add three article links for MGS4 that havent added but everything is disabled. It seems like they are adding the bad reviews for MGS4 and leaving out the good ones.

Gameplayer 100

kikizo 100

Gaming trend 93

these reviews have been out for some time now.

liquidsnake1987

OMG Gamerankings is biased against MGS4!!!!

Seriously would those raise it by even .1%? Who cares?

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Who cares MGS4=10, it owns every exclusive game on any console this gen.knight-k

^^^lol @ this

its good but not that good

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Anyone who uses aggregated reviews given the number of times the statistical deception employed by all of the sites that create them has been demonstrated... and the stupidity of utilizing numerical scoring as a quality-indicator has been showcased... and when legitimate review sites have been tryign to move away from doing so... well, there's no other word for it: they're an idiot.

The site may be being freaky, but frankly let's not ignore the bigger problem: aggregated review scores are the schizophrenia of the gaming world - a mental cancer that distorts reality, destroys reason, and shatters meaning.

subrosian

You act as if the matter will determine the fate of the world. Last time I checked, videogames are for entertainment. They are a luxury for anyone and if someone would like to know whether the so-called "acclaimed" critics like it or not, let them be convinced by a number and later debate it on an internet forum. I generally see that scores reflect public demand for a game, whether or not one is a product of the other is besides the point, because none of this really matters on a scale you seem to be alluding to.

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#48 facebooker
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Who cares MGS4=10, it owns every exclusive game on any console this gen.knight-k

i agree that mgs4 is a great game, but there's a world outside gamespot too you know...only fanboys would weigh one person's opinion over the mass critic's

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#49 subrosian
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[QUOTE="subrosian"]

Anyone who uses aggregated reviews given the number of times the statistical deception employed by all of the sites that create them has been demonstrated... and the stupidity of utilizing numerical scoring as a quality-indicator has been showcased... and when legitimate review sites have been tryign to move away from doing so... well, there's no other word for it: they're an idiot.

The site may be being freaky, but frankly let's not ignore the bigger problem: aggregated review scores are the schizophrenia of the gaming world - a mental cancer that distorts reality, destroys reason, and shatters meaning.

GabeRamos

You act as if the matter will determine the fate of the world. Last time I checked, videogames are for entertainment. They are a luxury for anyone and if someone would like to know whether the so-called "acclaimed" critics like it or not, let them be convinced by a number and later debate it on an internet forum. I generally see that scores reflect public demand for a game, whether or not one is a product of the other is besides the point, because none of this really matters on a scale you seem to be alluding to.

Public demand is not an indicator of quality, only popularity. Popular does not mean good - McDonalds hamburgers are the best selling in the world. Does that mean they're the best tasting?

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Review scores are not an indicator of quality - they can vary wildly from site to site, and over the life of a game. They are an opinion of one person or group of people at one point in time that tries (awkwardly and I would argue unsuccessfully) to summarize the hundreds of metrics by which we may judge a game as one meaningless numerical value.

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Sites that attempt to combine these numbers that were generated by dozens of different methods, and actually are intended to mean hundreds of different things, into one number, which does not reflect any of the systems used, are further from reality, and are ultimately complete failures.

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And actually, yes, the fate of the world DOES depend on it. We've seen shoddy statistics used to justify everything from energy policy to what countries we should go to war with. The "wikification" of knowledge has resulted in a generation that is far stupider than its predecessor. The inability to properly recognize source-attribution errors, false-beliefs, propaganda, winner-oriented history, and faulty precedent has cost millions of people their lives over the ages.

Stupid beliefs, held for the wrong reasons - be it the Salem Witchhunts or our modern day wikified clueless youth, are the root cause of pointless wars, pointless death, poor economic policy, and poor political decision making.

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Simple gaming? No - it's a reflection of something far worse - mental laziness. Gamerankings, metacritic, etc - only a moron would use those sites - and someone who, despite knowing their statistical fraudulence, continue to use them, deserves nothing but the utmost scorn. After all, why should anyone who chooses to be stupid be granted social priveledges?

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And this is a gaming site, really, please, we're here to discuss gaming. When people are proven wrong on complex issues they say things like "lolz people are dying in Iraq, and that's what you care about?" Does this say political wars on the board title? No, it's System Wars. However you want the deeper reason why we will NEVER, EVER use Gamerankings, Metacritic, etc? Because people believe they are legitimate, when they are, in fact, not.

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Using just GameSpot scores, people are far more inclined to question the validity of a review, and that's healthy, people *should question* reviewers, they should challenge journalists, they should think for themselves. The day (which will never come) that we switch to an aggregated review score is the day that an even larger number of people shut off their brains.

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#50 GabeRamos
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[QUOTE="GabeRamos"][QUOTE="subrosian"]

Anyone who uses aggregated reviews given the number of times the statistical deception employed by all of the sites that create them has been demonstrated... and the stupidity of utilizing numerical scoring as a quality-indicator has been showcased... and when legitimate review sites have been tryign to move away from doing so... well, there's no other word for it: they're an idiot.

The site may be being freaky, but frankly let's not ignore the bigger problem: aggregated review scores are the schizophrenia of the gaming world - a mental cancer that distorts reality, destroys reason, and shatters meaning.

subrosian

You act as if the matter will determine the fate of the world. Last time I checked, videogames are for entertainment. They are a luxury for anyone and if someone would like to know whether the so-called "acclaimed" critics like it or not, let them be convinced by a number and later debate it on an internet forum. I generally see that scores reflect public demand for a game, whether or not one is a product of the other is besides the point, because none of this really matters on a scale you seem to be alluding to.

Public demand is not an indicator of quality, only popularity. Popular does not mean good - McDonalds hamburgers are the best selling in the world. Does that mean they're the best tasting?

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Review scores are not an indicator of quality - they can vary wildly from site to site, and over the life of a game. They are an opinion of one person or group of people at one point in time that tries (awkwardly and I would argue unsuccessfully) to summarize the hundreds of metrics by which we may judge a game as one meaningless numerical value.

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Sites that attempt to combine these numbers that were generated by dozens of different methods, and actually are intended to mean hundreds of different things, into one number, which does not reflect any of the systems used, are further from reality, and are ultimately complete failures.

-

And actually, yes, the fate of the world DOES depend on it. We've seen shoddy statistics used to justify everything from energy policy to what countries we should go to war with. The "wikification" of knowledge has resulted in a generation that is far stupider than its predecessor. The inability to proper grasp source-attribution errors, false-beliefs, propaganda, winner-oriented history, and faulty precedent has cost millions of people their lives over the ages.

Stupid beliefs, held for the wrong reasons - be it the Salem Witchhunts or our modern day wikified clueless youth, are the root cause of pointless wars, pointless death, poor economic policy, and poor political decision making.

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Simple gaming? No - it's a reflection of something far worse - mental laziness. Gamerankings, metacritic, etc - only a moron would use those sites - and someone who, despite know their statistical fraudulence, continue to use them, deserves nothing but the utmost scorn. After all, why should anyone who chooses to be stupid be granted social priveledges?

-

And this is a gaming site, really, please, we're here to discuss gaming. When people are proven wrong on complex issues they say things like "lolz people are dying in Iraq, and that's what you care about?" Does this say political wars on the board title? No, it's System Wars. However you want the deeper reason why we will NEVER, EVER use Gamerankings, Metacritic, etc? Because people believe they are legitimate, when they are, in fact, not.

-

Using just GameSpot scores, people are far more inclined to question the validity of a review, and that's healthy, people *should question* reviewers, they should challenge journalists, they should think for themselves. The day (which will never come) that we switch to an aggregated review score is the day that an even larger number of people shut off their brains.

Although I agree with you very much upon the "stupidization" of culture and knowledge, i still beleive we are talking about videogames. I never said anything about iraq or anything outside the scope of videogames, so while it did strengthen your arguement, do not hold it against me that i related any information of the sort. I can tell you know your stuff, so to speak, so i am not going to argue senslessly.

But I do have one question for you, and as I ask i am not advocating any sort of aggregated oppinion, but asking a simple, albeit loaded, question.

Assuming that the score measures Enjoyment out of a game along with technical proficieny, do YOU not agree with the "final" scores alloted to these games, not considering the process in which they were conceived?

I usually agree with the scores despite their "faulty" means of acquisition. i dont take them as an end-all-be-all, but certainly i find they usually have an idea within my ballpark, after playing and carefully contemplating each game myself. I declared before that the public generally agrees with the scores, no matter how apathetic they may be. Thus, if you do not agree with these scores, you go against public oppinion, which is not a bad thing, it just means that it is obvious these scores were meant to please the public, not intellectuals such as yourself.

So that takes us back to the origional point. We are still dealing with entertainment. I do not have the time or resources to carefully research every single one of my products of entertainment, so someimes if i just want a game to play over the weekend and dont want to go through that process, i can just check gamerankings and see what people liked this week. So i have a game that I assume is probably a safe bet, not 100%, but ost likely, and the world continues to turn.

Sure wiki-zation is probably not good for everything, but that doesnt mean it isnt good for anything. People can wiki games and still be culturally literate, questioning and healthy. I understand your frustration, but besides me and maybe a few others, you are not really making a lot of sense to most forum-goers.