Whats wrong with Red Steel?

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#1 DriftRS
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I don't want stupid fanboy banter in here, I'm honestly wondering what people have against it. I rented the game out twice now, plan on renting it a third time to finish it off, and then maybe again for some multiplayer which I havn tried yet. If you want you can stop reading here, otherwise continue for my rant :P

I'm at the very last level, so I have played through it alot. First thing is the graphics, why did everyone say they sucked? All the reviewers attacked the graphics, and yet it still remains one of the BEST looking Wii game. The duel in the rain at the end of one of the levels looked brilliant. The game looks great, and I just don't see why everyone was complaining about it, it was a launch title and really showed how much better a Wii game can look compared to a GC game.

The next issue is the controls, I think alot of people were simply spoilt and had imagined amazing FPS mouse-like controls, that can be forgiven. But I don't see how reviewers let thier assumptions on the Wii controls get in the way of a proper review. I played the game for about 5min before I was cumfortable with the controls, after that it took about 20min to fully master them and be perfectly comfortable. I never once had enemies sneaking up on me and shooting me in the back. I don't even know why people complained about the slow turning. In real life, would you just walk into the middle of a room full of guys wielding guns and then stand there while you get surrounded? Cause if you wouldn't in real life, why would you in this game? When I played, I made sure to enter new rooms slowly and kill people BEFORE they got behind me, no problem at all. In the off chance someone did get behind me, it took a second to spin around and shoot him in the head, same as a gamepad, except as soon as I could see him, I could take him down without the trouble of dual analog aiming. Honestly I don't understand how people could complain about that.

The game also had a fair bit of depth, the time stop skill was brialliant and fun to pull off, so was balancing your time stop meter. The lead NPC's you could shoot to make everyone else surrender was also a nice feature, add the motion controls for things like opening doors, and it all felt nice and fresh. I enjoyed this game sooo much more then CoD3 on Wii, which just kind of seemed.. ordinary. I played CoD3 after I had tried Red Steel, and yeah, just didn't find it as fun on Wii and it definetly didn't look as good.

Lastly the sword fighting, why did I hear so much about how awful and hard it was? After the first 2 or 3 training fights, sword fighting was easy, and had a fair bit of depth to it as well. It was also fun after the shooting segments to stand up off your couch and kick some ass melee style. Again, everyone was hoping for 1:1 controls, no fault of the developer, nobody got those controls, so everyone, including reviewers, who are meant to act PROFESSIONALLY and not fanboyish, decided to complain about it. Thats like me ****ing cause mario galaxy won't let me control each arm seperatly with nunchuck and remote, well no duh, it isn't meant to either.

Oh and lastly, when u finally get to the highest level and learn all your skills, the game again gets a refreshing new change when you realise there's no longer a reason to not kill everyone, thats when you go all rambo on everyone and the game picks up imensly for the last few levels as you race around slaughtering everyone :P

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#2 JiveT
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I'll have to get my brother to get this game I'd like to try it out.
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#3 Cpt_Meh
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I didn't think it was that bad. My only complaint was that it get's tedious. I thought the controls were excellent, and it had just a cool feel to it as a whole. I look forward to a sequel.
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#4 Ganon_919
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troubled control scheme and inconsistent graphically, some parts were nice while others were... Red Steel-ish?
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#5 keyhunter
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First of all, what kind of jerk rents games? Either buy them or borrow them from a friend. You coulda bought red steel by now.

Anyways, for the most part red steel is an unremarkable shooter. It ranks below last gens DOOM 3 for graphics and lighting. The storyline and voice acting are aweful. The levels are confusing and horribly designed, and the conrols are terrible as one button does everything.

I guess we could compare it to goldeneye. Exept goldeneye is 10 years old.

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#6 _en1gma_
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ive tried to play it once, but i couldnt. the controls i found were just horribly bad and the actual shooting too dull for my taste. just my opinion though
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#7 Ganon_919
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ive tried to play it once, but i couldnt. the controls i found were just horribly bad and the actual shooting too dull for my taste. just my opinion though_en1gma_

Yeah I'm glad I borrowed it and didn't buy it myself.

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#8 _en1gma_
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[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]ive tried to play it once, but i couldnt. the controls i found were just horribly bad and the actual shooting too dull for my taste. just my opinion thoughGanon_919

Yeah I'm glad I borrowed it and didn't buy it myself.

ditto
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#9 Cpt_Meh
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I don't get how people found the controls to be bad, considering my friends without Wii's were kicking my @$$ part of the time in multiplayer. They seemed to pick up on it quick. They keep trying to get me to buy it now.
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#10 DriftRS
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First of all, what kind of jerk rents games? Either buy them or borrow them from a friend. You coulda bought red steel by now.

Anyways, for the most part red steel is an unremarkable shooter. It ranks below last gens DOOM 3 for graphics and lighting. The storyline and voice acting are aweful. The levels are confusing and horribly designed, and the conrols are terrible as one button does everything.

I guess we could compare it to goldeneye. Exept goldeneye is 10 years old.

keyhunter

Ahh, in australia games cost 100AUD, now rentinga game costs $2, I rented twice, so thats $4 vs $100, you deicde which is better : /

And yes I agree, the storyline was pretty bad and the voice acting worse. But strangely I was playing the game for well... the game, and not the few cutscenes so that really didn't bother me at all. The levels are pretty linear so dunno how you were confused. And the controls only used one button for everything? We had a button to jump, a button to duck, one for reloading, another for throwing nades, movment with control stick, another button for targeting enemies, another for shooting them, one motion handled the freeze time move, and another was used for opening doors.

hmm, so, when you say one button is used to control everything, which button out of all of them are you refering to exactly :?

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#11 creativeminded
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First of all, what kind of jerk rents games?

keyhunter

Perhapsyouarenotawareofitbutit'snotnicetocallsomeoneajerk

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#12 Dark_Link142
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It's an ok game but it's a glitchety dump-fest with fairly bad graphics and lag. The multiplayer is also lame and dialogue is pretty painful. The actual shooting and swordfighting are fun for the most part though.
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#13 GunSmith1_basic
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I think red steel is actually a great game, it was just released too early. It is underdeveloped, and lacks polish. Framerates can be bad, I found the swordfighting had problems, and anything that wasn't in game was obviously rushed. Controls could have been more finely tuned. Red steel 2 will be better
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#14 Michael85
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First of all, what kind of jerk rents games? Either buy them or borrow them from a friend. You coulda bought red steel by now.

Anyways, for the most part red steel is an unremarkable shooter. It ranks below last gens DOOM 3 for graphics and lighting. The storyline and voice acting are aweful. The levels are confusing and horribly designed, and the conrols are terrible as one button does everything.

I guess we could compare it to goldeneye. Exept goldeneye is 10 years old.

keyhunter

I was with you up until there, where I decided that you haven't played the game. At all.

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#15 osan0
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it wasnt finished basically. its buggy, has some framerate probs and balancing issues. gamespot was a bit too harsh though, its definately better than a 5.5. when it works it works very well. sword fighting is fun for the most part and the shooting controls work quite nicely after a bit of practice. but at the end of the day parts of it are broken. it could have been so much better. personally id give it a 7. i hope the devs pull it off properly with RS2.
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#16 Link5687
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I personlly love the game. Its not a gme for casual gamers, as in its not one of those games your grandparents can play on the Wii, but for any actual gamer, it is awsome. I just think it is a lover it or hate it title. I love it
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#17 shoeman12
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most of the people who bashed it never played it, they only heard what other people said and jumped on it
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#18 Bread_or_Decide
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1. It was hyped to be AWESOME and ony turned out to be moderately tolerable.

2. Some may say its not oven tolerable but downright bad.

3. Sometimes you want to like a game so bad....you'll like it even if it sucks.

Pick a reason.

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#19 out0v0rder
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i love the multiplayer. FPS WITHOUT AUTOAIM!!! me and my roomies call it "red skill".
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#20 TrueReligion_
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It's a terrible game. The AI was absolutely pathetic, and the controls were frustrating--the graphics were mediocre at best--but the soundtrack was exceptional for such a terrible game.
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#21 -The-G-Man-
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The graphics were decent at best; nothing mind-blowing and certainly nothing that couldn't have been done on the Gamecube.

The gameplay of Red Steel was not very good by the standards of most of today's considered-great first-person shooters. Think about it: would you still have liked to play the game without the Wii remote? The Wii remote was the gameplay's only redeeming factor; otherwise the game really wasn't all that good.

This is just my opinion of course. If you decide you like this game more than those other great FPSes out there it's fine by me.

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#22 UKNintendoFreak
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TC, I agree with every word you said! Red Steel is a great game, definitely one of my favourite FPS's...
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#23 TyrantDragon55
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I tried some multiplayer Red Steel with a friend, and honestly, I hated it. The controls just felt awkward and I could not find one redeeming quality. Maybe I just haven't spent enough time with it but from my experience it deserves the negative reviews and bashing.

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#24 Taz-Bone
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too many glitches
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#25 Ogloff
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I thought it was a pretty decent game. It showed a lot of potential. I don't get peoples beef with the controls, after 20 minutes of play I had no problems with it. The Car garage level in LA and the Crazy rabbit level were pretty sweet. ONe thing I didn't like was the Sniping. IMO it should have scorred at least a 7
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#26 aroxx_ab
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It had been alot better without the swordfighing...and they could named it "Red bullets" or something else :lol:
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#27 dracula_16
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Ugly graphics, horrible sword fights, no blood, generic gun fights, terrible voice acting.

What isn't bad about it? :|

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#28 -Sora
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ive tried to play it once, but i couldnt. the controls i found were just horribly bad and the actual shooting too dull for my taste. just my opinion though_en1gma_

thats how i felt too.

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#29 playstation2004
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Horrible Sword Fights.
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#30 PotatoSan
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It isn't fun.
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#31 Homesrfan
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I thought it was okay, but the review was pretty fair. It was fun for the most part, but it really didn't do much... Red Steel 2 will be much better since Ubisoft won't have to rush it. Online please...
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#32 NobuoMusicMaker
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It's taking you this long to finish it? :lol: Typical.

I win every sword fight with a waggle, shooting is so pathetic, I breezed through the game in one play.

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#33 Verge_6
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I gave it a try, and agree that it's a bit underrated. I would have given it something in the low 7's, really. But, the flawed control scheme, Godawful sword fights,and thegeneral premise hurt the game. Still, not a bad start.
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#34 Verge_6
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Horrible Sword Fights.playstation2004

Oh, God, those were the absolute worst parts of the game...