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#1 PBSnipes
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Seriously, why is it going to flop? I've seen dozens of posts saying "lolz Too Human is teh suxxors!" but I've never seen anyone actually post a logical reason why. So go ahead collective trolls, fanboys and haters, explain to me why Too Human won't be a great game.
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#3 dracula_16
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In the gameplay videos they do the same combo's over and over again. They either knock someone in the air and shoot them or knock someone in the air and slam them to the ground.
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#4 PBSnipes
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In the gameplay videos they do the same combo's over and over again. They either knock someone in the air and shoot them or knock someone in the air and slam them to the ground. dracula_16
But couldn't you say that about every WRPG?
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#5 Veterngamer
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I'll tell you why it sucks..... 1st of all, its not playable on the PS3.... secondly, you cannot play it on the Wii.... and the 3rd and greatest reason why it'll suck is because you can't play it on the PC.
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#6 GazzaB
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I know next to nothing about the title. Ive never bashed it myself, but i agree that im always hearing people say it'll flop etc.
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[QUOTE="dracula_16"]In the gameplay videos they do the same combo's over and over again. They either knock someone in the air and shoot them or knock someone in the air and slam them to the ground. PBSnipes
But couldn't you say that about every WRPG?

Too Human is only half RPG. It supposedly has a deep combat system similar to Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden games. It's basically been described as DMC meets WoW by the developers.

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#8 Verge_6
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The horrid gameplay vids from a while back are still haunting it.
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#9 PBSnipes
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]In the gameplay videos they do the same combo's over and over again. They either knock someone in the air and shoot them or knock someone in the air and slam them to the ground. dracula_16

But couldn't you say that about every WRPG?

Too Human is only half RPG. It supposedly has a deep combat system similar to Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden It's basically been described as DMC meets WoW by the developers.

I'd like to see the link for that, because I've been following the game pretty religiously and have never heard the combat described as a pure action game like DMC or Ninja Gaiden. It certainly has some characteristics of those games, but at the end of the day Too Human is a WRPG in the same vein as The Witcher and the Diablo titles rather than a pure action title.
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#10 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]In the gameplay videos they do the same combo's over and over again. They either knock someone in the air and shoot them or knock someone in the air and slam them to the ground. dracula_16

But couldn't you say that about every WRPG?

Too Human is only half RPG. It supposedly has a deep combat system similar to Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden games. It's basically been described as DMC meets WoW by the developers.

too human's combat system is nothing like DMC or the NG series..which is why it's been treated so poorly.

and the developers NEVER compared the game to DMC and WOW.

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#11 beast667
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Cuz its not on teh PS3!:x

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#12 -Sniper99-
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I think it looks awesome, the like 1000 years it's been in development is really scary though:(
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#13 lawlessx
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I think it looks awesome, the like 1000 years it's been in development is really scary though:(-Sniper99-

it shouldn't considering it's been through 3 consoles and has gone through alot of major changes.

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#14 PBSnipes
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I think it looks awesome, the like 1000 years it's been in development is really scary though:(-Sniper99-
But you have to consider the context of that development. While yes, Too Human has been in development for the past 10 years, the game was put on hold so Silicon Knights could focus on Eternal Darkness and MGS: Twin Snakes, so serious development didn't start until 2004 IIRC. It's not like Duke Nukem Forever where the development team has spent the better part of the past 10 years playing WoW and Everquest.
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#15 beast667
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[QUOTE="-Sniper99-"]I think it looks awesome, the like 1000 years it's been in development is really scary though:(PBSnipes
But you have to consider the context of that development. While yes, Too Human has been in development for the past 10 years, the game was put on hold so Silicon Knights could focus on Eternal Darkness and MGS: Twin Snakes, so serious development didn't start until 2004 IIRC. It's not like Duke Nukem Forever where the development team has spent the better part of the past 10 years playing WoW and Everquest.

I don't think there is anything to worry about. Twin Snakes and Eternal Darkness were both fantastic, a couple of my favorite games on the 'Cube last gen.
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#16 PBSnipes
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The horrid gameplay vids from a while back are still haunting it.Verge_6
Seems to be the case. Hooray for judging games by outdated videos?
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#17 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]The horrid gameplay vids from a while back are still haunting it.PBSnipes
Seems to be the case. Hooray for judging games by outdated videos?

happened with halo3 and the pre-alpha screenshots.

this game has improved alot since it's E3 2006 showing and i cant wait until it releases.

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#18 Rockman999
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I like it,it seems like a great game and when i get a 360 that'll be the first game i get.
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#19 colmusterd28
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I think it will do fine... The vids I've seen recently show great promise and all that customizing sounds awesome. I think I'm willing to say 8.5-9.0 on this game... I don't hype offen but it looks really deep.
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#20 flatline711
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I'm extremely excited for Too Human. It's basically gonna be my Diablo III till Diablo III actually comes out.
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#21 PBSnipes
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I don't think there is anything to worry about. Twin Snakes and Eternal Darkness were both fantastic, a couple of my favorite games on the 'Cube last gen. beast667
Exactly. It's not like Silicon Knights has been screwing around for the past 10 years.
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#22 tmntPunchout
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I haven't seen any recent videos so I'm guessing my gripe w/ Too Human has probably been majorly improved, but I disliked how combat looked in those videos.
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#23 xxastrocreepxx
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[QUOTE="dracula_16"]

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]In the gameplay videos they do the same combo's over and over again. They either knock someone in the air and shoot them or knock someone in the air and slam them to the ground. lawlessx

But couldn't you say that about every WRPG?

Too Human is only half RPG. It supposedly has a deep combat system similar to Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden games. It's basically been described as DMC meets WoW by the developers.

too human's combat system is nothing like DMC or the NG series..which is why it's been treated so poorly.

and the developers NEVER compared the game to DMC and WOW.

he said diablo and if he spent time working on this game instead of blabbing about it every 5 minutes it would have scored AAA, been out 2 years ago with the sequal ready for winter 08.
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#24 epic_pets
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The gameplay isn't the best.
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#25 Renegade_Fury
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It just looks...boring
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#26 ganon546
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To be honest I have no clue why I think its going to flop lol its just one of those games I have a bad feeling about. I'm hoping its awesome though.
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#27 PBSnipes
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Those of you saying it looks boring or something similar, what videos have you seen?
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#28 FrozenLiquid
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PBSnipes weren't you originally a skeptic of Too Human's awesomeness?

This game is gonna rock anyhow.

Any developer that tries to push themselves into helping define "the eighth art" has a game worthy of anticipation IMO.

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#29 PBSnipes
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PBSnipes weren't you originally a skeptic of Too Human's awesomeness?

FrozenLiquid
Nope, I've been riding the Too Human bandwagon ever since I did some quality research on the game. I suppose I was a little skeptical before seeing the 2nd developer diary (which was a life-changing experience :P), but I've always thought Too Human would turn out to be a quality title.
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#30 user_nat
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It just hasn't look that good in the videos I've seen. (I honestly don't remember with videos they were). Cutting the co op from 4 to 2 was a bit disappointing also. Also if it had local co op, I would definently get it.
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#31 bstarter29
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It just looks...boringRenegade_Fury

QFT.

Seriously, I can't even watch a full trailer of this game. I'm so bored even looking at screenshots of it. I don't know what it is about it. I love RPGs (both J and W), but this one does nothing for me. I don't have anything against it, I'm just not looking foward to it.

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#32 murat8
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Ive never said it will flop or anything but im not hyped for it unless it has co-op offline if it does then im getting it, it reminds me of games like X-Men Legends and Marvel:UA and i love games like that with friends ever though their repetitive for some people
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#33 Locke562
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[QUOTE="dracula_16"]

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]In the gameplay videos they do the same combo's over and over again. They either knock someone in the air and shoot them or knock someone in the air and slam them to the ground. lawlessx

But couldn't you say that about every WRPG?

Too Human is only half RPG. It supposedly has a deep combat system similar to Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden games. It's basically been described as DMC meets WoW by the developers.

too human's combat system is nothing like DMC or the NG series..which is why it's been treated so poorly.

and the developers NEVER compared the game to DMC and WOW.

They certainly have compared it to both those games. You should check out some of the Developer Diary's as the comparisons are made in nearly every one, Not to mention the numerous comparisons to Diablo.

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#34 II-FBIsniper-II
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I don't see why you are surprised people think the game is going to flop or suck. It happens to every major/big titles that are exclusive to a platform.
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#35 Locke562
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I don't see why you are surprised people think the game is going to flop or suck. It happens to every major/big titles that are exclusive to a platform.II-FBIsniper-II

Yes. Of course. What were we thinking. :roll:

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Seriously, why is it going to flop? I've seen dozens of posts saying "lolz Too Human is teh suxxors!" but I've never seen anyone actually post a logical reason why. So go ahead collective trolls, fanboys and haters, explain to me why Too Human won't be a great game.PBSnipes

You're actually trying to uncover reason behind the actions of fanboys?

Better to try and find a hamburger in India :)

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#37 FrozenLiquid
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Better to try and find a hamburger in India :)

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You've never heard of the Maharaja burger courtesy of McDonalds, India?

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#38 Locke562
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Better to try and find a hamburger in India :)

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You've never heard of the Maharaja burger courtesy of McDonalds, India?

:lol: You lie!

:P

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#39 MetroidPrimePwn
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The problem with Too Human is that you're on System Wars. Here, every game sucks until it is released, when it is either terrible because it flopped or overrated because it scored well.

Well, unless the game is Portal. Then it's awesome.

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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Better to try and find a hamburger in India :)

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You've never heard of the Maharaja burger courtesy of McDonalds, India?

The McDonald's in India serves veggie burgers, not beef. Now don't try to undermine my metaphors please :P :P :P

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#41 SolidTy
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Seriously, why is it going to flop? I've seen dozens of posts saying "lolz Too Human is teh suxxors!" but I've never seen anyone actually post a logical reason why. So go ahead collective trolls, fanboys and haters, explain to me why Too Human won't be a great game.PBSnipes

I really hope it doesn't. I have The Original Legacy of Kain and Eternal Darkness, I see the game as being a sleeper hit, but hopefully more. I have it reserved and am awaiting as long as it takes for them to do it right.

Then again, Free Radical did let me down recently.

I think the trolls are speculating because of their bad E3 showing 2 years ago, and Silicone's suing EPIC because of the Unreal Engine.

That being said, I have high hopes for Dennis Dyack and team.

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#42 jg4xchamp
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I know what I like about it

Norse Mythology with a Scifi view with a Silicon Knights spin. based on how much I enjoyed the presentation and story of Eternal Darkness, I will enjoy the story in Too Human.

The combat is DMC meets Diablo. Alot of depth, but it isn't point and click combat. OR that garbage from Oblivion. It is a bit more fluid, looks generic, but the RPG elements, the skill system make it seem like it could be an addictive combat system in terms of customization.

The visuals look good, seriousaly I think it looks good.

Multiple cla-sses and COOP are never a bad thing.

So IMO it will be AA worthy when it releases. Do i expect it to turn the world upside down and completely change the face of gaming. No. But it will be a good game.
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#43 thepwninator
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PBSnipes weren't you originally a skeptic of Too Human's awesomeness?

This game is gonna rock anyhow.

Any developer that tries to push themselves into helping define "the eighth art" has a game worthy of anticipation IMO.

FrozenLiquid

I know I was.

I'm one of those people who likes to know about what I'm bashing on, though, so, as I researched Too Human, I came to realize that it was not deserving of the bashing I was about to dish out, and, in fact, worthy of praise.

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#44 NaiKoN9293
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why it could be good: sk made eternal darkness

why it could be bad: ???

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#45 thepwninator
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why it could be good: sk made eternal darkness

why it could be bad: ???

NaiKoN9293

Pretty much...

But I would add more to the "why it could be good" list :P

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#46 heretrix
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To me it looks promising enough to give it a chance.
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#47 Javy03
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I dont bash games I dont play but IMO Too Human's gameplay looks very dull. I hate the fact that the sword action is done with the right thumbstick as oppossed to a button and the juggling and overall action looks very slow.

However I am very interested in the whole mythology concept behind Too Human. The game just looks very dull and unispired to me.

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#48 Snowboarder99
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I think it looks great, wish it had 4 player co op though
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#49 horrowhip
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]In the gameplay videos they do the same combo's over and over again. They either knock someone in the air and shoot them or knock someone in the air and slam them to the ground. dracula_16

But couldn't you say that about every WRPG?

Too Human is only half RPG. It supposedly has a deep combat system similar to Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden games. It's basically been described as DMC meets WoW by the developers.

they never described the combat as "Deep." They described it as fast, and similar to DMC in terms of feel. Not depth.

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#50 Sig12047
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I've heard it described as "Diabloesque" so I will keep an eye on it.