When did exclusives become such a determining factor?

Cows are really using this exclusive thing and beating it over people's heads like it means something and determines who wins system wars. Last time I checked system wars rules, this was not one of htem. Just thought I'd reiterate that. I've read so many threads recently with cows correcting 360 posts saying those games don't count because they aren't exclusive and the ps3 clearly wins somehow. I suggest cows reread the rules of the forum because it's not one of them. 360/pc multiplats do indeed count in other words. Stop correcting posts like they don't count. Cows are getting desparate.

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Exclusives are important because NOBODY walks into a store looking for a console, and basis their decision on a multiplat game. They ultimately base their console decision on price, and which games that console offers that they want that the competition doesn't. It is stupid to buy a console if your sole reasoning is because it has a multiplat game. I would then argue that other features are third.

Exclusives are important because NOBODY walks into a store looking for a console, and basis their decision on a multiplat game. They ultimately base their console decision on price, and which games that console offers that they want that the competition doesn't. It is stupid to buy a console if your sole reasoning is because it has a multiplat game. I would then argue that other features are third.

ZIMdoom

I just have heard it so many times like it's a rule here and 360/pc multiplats don't count and are somehow being erased like they don't. They do count. Those are games the competition doesn't offer. They aren't on playstation. Maybe they aren't exclusive, but correcting posts like they don't count at all is silly and not some rule here at system wars like i've heard people say it is.

I'm going to make all my posts of games "not on playstation" from here on out and see how cows correct my post saying it isn't right, when it is right according to the rules here. If they can make claims like "only on playstation". I can say "not on playstation". Microsoft is clearly winning that war. It also means more and holds more weight if you look at sales of the consoles.

They've always been important and even a determining factor at times:|

Atleast ever since I joined in 2004

Exclusives are important because NOBODY walks into a store looking for a console, and basis their decision on a multiplat game. They ultimately base their console decision on price, and which games that console offers that they want that the competition doesn't. It is stupid to buy a console if your sole reasoning is because it has a multiplat game. I would then argue that other features are third.

ZIMdoom

They've been important ever since gaming began.

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

Exclusives are important because NOBODY walks into a store looking for a console, and basis their decision on a multiplat game. They ultimately base their console decision on price, and which games that console offers that they want that the competition doesn't. It is stupid to buy a console if your sole reasoning is because it has a multiplat game. I would then argue that other features are third.

waynehead895

what's funny is the 360 actually has more exclusives and also more multiplats you can't play on the ps3 at all. There really needs to be a term for games you can't play on playstation 3, because this whole argument like it's for people who don't care abotu exclusives and just want madden and multiplats and go for the cheaper console is silly. The 360 has more games you can't play on playstation. it also has more exclusives.

[QUOTE="waynehead895"][QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

Exclusives are important because NOBODY walks into a store looking for a console, and basis their decision on a multiplat game. They ultimately base their console decision on price, and which games that console offers that they want that the competition doesn't. It is stupid to buy a console if your sole reasoning is because it has a multiplat game. I would then argue that other features are third.

Walker34

what's funny is the 360 actually has more exclusives and also more multiplats you can't play on the ps3 at all. There really needs to be a term for games you can't play on playstation 3, because this whole argument like it's for people who don't care abotu exclusives and just want madden and multiplats is silly. The 360 has more games you can't play on playstation. it also has more exclusives.

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

Exclusives are important because NOBODY walks into a store looking for a console, and basis their decision on a multiplat game. They ultimately base their console decision on price, and which games that console offers that they want that the competition doesn't. It is stupid to buy a console if your sole reasoning is because it has a multiplat game. I would then argue that other features are third.

waynehead895

[QUOTE="Walker34"]

[QUOTE="waynehead895"] I'd say you're wrong on this. My brother bought an Xbox 360 only for his next gen NBA 2K fix. If the PS3 was cheaper he would've got a PS3 instead. Gears of War was just a bonus for him. But if the 360 had no exclusives he'd be fine with that. I'm sure he isn't the only one. There guys who only really play Madden and they probably will get it on the least expensive console.thepwninator

what's funny is the 360 actually has more exclusives and also more multiplats you can't play on the ps3 at all. There really needs to be a term for games you can't play on playstation 3, because this whole argument like it's for people who don't care abotu exclusives and just want madden and multiplats is silly. The 360 has more games you can't play on playstation. it also has more exclusives.

I've done that though and fanboys still remove games from the ones i list and say they don't count. It's hilarious after a while. Saying i bought a console because it's cheaper and i just like multiplats and madden is silly. the 360 has more exclusives and more multiplat games i can't play on ps3. That's the cold hard truth to cows everywhere.

When Sony sheeple realised they need to have a new argument to try to give the illusion that PS3 is somehow overtaking 360. After exclusives, it will be something else...

Exclusive is the whole point of SW. Exclusive are the reason why people buy a console over the other. ***Exclusives makes sure the doesnt die***. Why are lemming acting like exclusive dont matter now??? Exclusives and taking exclusives away from another console was all the rage for lemmings back in 06-08. RTUUMM

Just to correct you, in System Wars, multi-platform titles have never counted on exclusive comparison lists. It doesn't matter if it's only on 360/PC, or PC/PS3 or even PS3/360. There's no such thing as exclusive if a title is on multiple platforms.

It's not been made up recently, it's been around for a long time, and in fact, the only reason it seems to be talked about much here, is Lemmings wanting to get some extra titles to pad their lists.

Stop trying to reinvent System Wars because it suits your console of choice.

great exclusives are primarly what determine the choice of which console/sytem to get... if there were only multiplats I'd just choose the cheapest console...

I got a Ps3 cause of the exclusives i can ONLY play on it and same thing for the 360...

I have been lurking here but wan't going to post for this exact thing. I have never heard of a forum that is allowed to pretend like games don't exist. I see people posting that no one buys systems for Multiplats? Uh I and most of my friends got 360's for Mass Effect, Gears 1 etc... when I decided to purchase a console these games were not on PS3 so obviously they DO matter. Seems like the rules were setup to favor PS3 owners becuase really if you count games that are on 360 and not on PS3 then, oh I see it wouldn't really be fair to PS3 owners. That's rediculous to have a forum where games can be overlooked to help PS3 owners feel better about themselves. Guess I'll stay in Off Topic Gamma_crush

I agree. The thing is though it isn't a rule. That's the point even though cows will like you to think it is. It's the biggest farce on system wars. I just thought I'd point out the hypocrisy that are cows. what's funny is they don't even have more exclusives that's the thing. Even though they'd like you to think that as well.

someone tell me why this system isn't fair:

* exclusivity doesn't matter
* if a game that comes out for all systems gets AAA, then all system's AAA count goes up by one. no system gains ground on the others
* a completely exclusive game comes out and gets AAA. this console gains ground on every other by 1 AAA.
* a game comes out for a number of consoles but not all of them and gets AAA. every console that has the game gains ground on every console without it but obviously not on a console that did have this game aswell.

this would mean that ps3/360 games have something over the wii, but shouldn't they? its not like the wii doesn't get help by virtue of the fact that most of its games are exclusive anyways? ff xiv would have something over 360. mlb 09 would have something over 360 (which it should. i was a little shocked that people weren't considering this exclusive anyways). left 4 dead 2 would have something over the ps3. doesn't that sound fair? true exclusives would still count more because that console would gain ground on all others. please dont say anything to the extent of "thats not the rules" in a reply. i'm just asking what the problem with this system is.

Just to correct you, in System Wars, multi-platform titles have never counted on exclusive comparison lists. It doesn't matter if it's only on 360/PC, or PC/PS3 or even PS3/360. There's no such thing as exclusive if a title is on multiple platforms.

It's not been made up recently, it's been around for a long time, and in fact, the only reason it seems to be talked about much here, is Lemmings wanting to get some extra titles to pad their lists.

Stop trying to reinvent System Wars because it suits your console of choice.

jonnyt61

I made a post yesterday that wasn't an exclusive list. It was a list of games not on playstation. not on 360 and vice versa. It was still corrected. Maybe cows should stop trying to reinvent the wheel. That's what i'm saying. I listed games as multiplats and they were still taken off the list like they didn't count. They do count. I didn't list them as exclusive. I listed them as games that aren't available on the other system. MY only point is cows have taken this exclusive thing to another level at this point where suddenly multiplat games dont count at all.

[QUOTE="jonnyt61"]

Just to correct you, in System Wars, multi-platform titles have never counted on exclusive comparison lists. It doesn't matter if it's only on 360/PC, or PC/PS3 or even PS3/360. There's no such thing as exclusive if a title is on multiple platforms.

It's not been made up recently, it's been around for a long time, and in fact, the only reason it seems to be talked about much here, is Lemmings wanting to get some extra titles to pad their lists.

Stop trying to reinvent System Wars because it suits your console of choice.

Walker34

I made a post yesterday that wasn't an exclusive list. It was a list of games not on playstation. not on 360 and vice versa. It was still corrected. Maybe cows should stop trying to reinvent the wheel. That's what i'm saying. I listed games as multiplats and they were still taken off the list like they didn't count. They do count.

[QUOTE="waynehead895"][QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

Exclusives are important because NOBODY walks into a store looking for a console, and basis their decision on a multiplat game. They ultimately base their console decision on price, and which games that console offers that they want that the competition doesn't. It is stupid to buy a console if your sole reasoning is because it has a multiplat game. I would then argue that other features are third.

FloWeN-UK

[QUOTE="Walker34"]

[QUOTE="jonnyt61"]

Just to correct you, in System Wars, multi-platform titles have never counted on exclusive comparison lists. It doesn't matter if it's only on 360/PC, or PC/PS3 or even PS3/360. There's no such thing as exclusive if a title is on multiple platforms.

It's not been made up recently, it's been around for a long time, and in fact, the only reason it seems to be talked about much here, is Lemmings wanting to get some extra titles to pad their lists.

Stop trying to reinvent System Wars because it suits your console of choice.

loco145

I made a post yesterday that wasn't an exclusive list. It was a list of games not on playstation. not on 360 and vice versa. It was still corrected. Maybe cows should stop trying to reinvent the wheel. That's what i'm saying. I listed games as multiplats and they were still taken off the list like they didn't count. They do count.

it has nothing for you. thats why any kind of list of games (exclusive or not) means nothing to personal factors and tastes.

the only purpose for lists is for general comparisons, not to prove any one person's tastes wrong.

as far as my personal factors go: i haven't bought a nice pc yet. i'm a college student who needs to conserve his money. starting from a blank slate, i chose the 360 because it has a good list of pc games that i wanted to play plus all the console game i wanted to play (minus mgs4 and certainty that i will play every final fantasy game).

when i get my own foundation set, i plan on getting a nice pc. until then, a 360 suites me nicely.

Lemmings were using the exclusive card against the cows all through 06 and 07, but now they can't take the heat when their exclusive lineup takes a hit.

I have been lurking here but wan't going to post for this exact thing. I have never heard of a forum that is allowed to pretend like games don't exist. I see people posting that no one buys systems for Multiplats? Uh I and most of my friends got 360's for Mass Effect, Gears 1 etc... when I decided to purchase a console these games were not on PS3 so obviously they DO matter. Seems like the rules were setup to favor PS3 owners becuase really if you count games that are on 360 and not on PS3 then, oh I see it wouldn't really be fair to PS3 owners. That's rediculous to have a forum where games can be overlooked to help PS3 owners feel better about themselves. Guess I'll stay in Off Topic Gamma_crush

tell me would u buy a PS3 if it has exactly the same games as the 360 ( vice versa) yeah i don't think so

tell me would u buy a PS3 if it has exactly the same games as the 360 ( vice versa) yeah i don't think so

da_illest101

who was this to?

[QUOTE="jonnyt61"]

Just to correct you, in System Wars, multi-platform titles have never counted on exclusive comparison lists. It doesn't matter if it's only on 360/PC, or PC/PS3 or even PS3/360. There's no such thing as exclusive if a title is on multiple platforms.

It's not been made up recently, it's been around for a long time, and in fact, the only reason it seems to be talked about much here, is Lemmings wanting to get some extra titles to pad their lists.

Stop trying to reinvent System Wars because it suits your console of choice.

Walker34

I made a post yesterday that wasn't an exclusive list. It was a list of games not on playstation. not on 360 and vice versa. It was still corrected. Maybe cows should stop trying to reinvent the wheel. That's what i'm saying. I listed games as multiplats and they were still taken off the list like they didn't count. They do count. I didn't list them as exclusive. I listed them as games that aren't available on the other system. MY only point is cows have taken this exclusive thing to another level at this point where suddenly multiplat games dont count at all.

Nobody is limited to one console, so listing multi-plats is irrelevant. Yes, I know not every one who owns a PS3 owns a PC capable of playing the games, but some do, and nobody is prevented from doing as such. The reasons exclusives count for so much, is simply because they can not be played on any other system, regardless.

If a game is available elsewhere, there's no way it can be used for a systems advantage, since, as I said, nobody is limited in what platforms they own.

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

Exclusives are important because NOBODY walks into a store looking for a console, and basis their decision on a multiplat game. They ultimately base their console decision on price, and which games that console offers that they want that the competition doesn't. It is stupid to buy a console if your sole reasoning is because it has a multiplat game. I would then argue that other features are third.

waynehead895

[QUOTE="Walker34"]

[QUOTE="jonnyt61"]

Just to correct you, in System Wars, multi-platform titles have never counted on exclusive comparison lists. It doesn't matter if it's only on 360/PC, or PC/PS3 or even PS3/360. There's no such thing as exclusive if a title is on multiple platforms.

It's not been made up recently, it's been around for a long time, and in fact, the only reason it seems to be talked about much here, is Lemmings wanting to get some extra titles to pad their lists.

Stop trying to reinvent System Wars because it suits your console of choice.

loco145

I made a post yesterday that wasn't an exclusive list. It was a list of games not on playstation. not on 360 and vice versa. It was still corrected. Maybe cows should stop trying to reinvent the wheel. That's what i'm saying. I listed games as multiplats and they were still taken off the list like they didn't count. They do count.

Imo it does justify a purchase. Exclusives are games you can't play ANYWHERE else, it's a key element in defining a platform.

It's not as big a deal now as it used to be. Hopefully we'll reach a point where publishers need to put every game on every platform so they can make enough money and so that everyone can play every game and this fanboy fervor will one day die out.supercubedude64

because cows hide behind so that they can try to compare to the 360 list. If it is 360 vs. PS3 than those are the only systems that matter in the aargument so it's games that are on one but not the other. cows don't like logic because it hurts them.Zero5000X

This really is System Wars :|