When did worrying about Specs and Used Games become an Issue?

Seriously.

I remember the good ol' days when it didn't matter if the System was a Over Lord of Power pumping out visuals where you can see pimples on the faces of characters.

I remember what made a game console good was the Games it had, it's what made the Sega Genesis a good console, The Super Nintendo, The N64 despite being overly inferior to the PS1 has some of the most memorable games of all time, and of course the PS2 while technically inferior to the Xbox and Gamecube it was the Leading Game System of it's time. 

Suddenly when usered in with the Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii we are now worrying about What the Specs are What's the System's Graphics Card? How Much Ram will this system have? Which is better?

This was only a gradual thing during this era but NOW It's more apparent that it EVER was with the PS4, Xbox ONE and WiiU.

There are Gamers laughing at the WiiU because the Graphics "aren't up to snuff", Dissapointed with the Xbox ONE because it focuses too much on things not related to gaming, and Think the PS4 is the second coming of Christ because Sony showed off Killzone.

It's like all that Today's Gamers care about is if games are going to look like Real life or not, yet some of the best games out there have nothing to do with Graphics or Teraflops or whatever, Some of them are very techinically inferior.

TL;DR SPECS: Not every Game has to be the Next Crysis.

On Used Games, When did this ever become an Issue? Used Games are great! Someone bought a game new because they were curious about it. They played it didn't think it was anything special so they trade the game in. Someone comes in, sees the used game buys it, keeps it forever. So Simple. And that game may not even be in Print anymore so even if bought new the Developer wouldn't see any money from it.

Back in the Day that's how it was done, and in fact it's still being done in this fashion today for Older games. But now we got DRM policies coming from Microsoft on the Xbox One giving out these huge loops and bounds just so they can find out if you're not stealing a game or what not and of course Sony is probably going to do something simlar or at least other Developers will because come on, People Steal. You may not, but there's a lot of that type of stuff going around.

But the Best way to Deal with Priacy is to Not Deal with it at all.

TL;DR USED GAMES:Yes it's a problem, but it's something that just can't be stopped.

Erm, all of this happened back then aswell (regaurding power/specs arguements) you was simply too young to remember or care at the time (as was I.). The Systems are so much more complex now, you didn't have to worry about the companies finding new ways to take your money. Piracy and Used games kills the middle and lower markets ..... and the greedy big guns want more of their moneys worth.MBirdy88

And yet, here we are talking about Specs and not looking back on the issue back when we were kids.

The Specs never mattered and never will. Those who say it does are blind to that. They'll give out whatever reason, but history says otherwise. 

and I suppose the Big Corporations are just trying to get rid of the middle man (used game industry)

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Erm, all of this happened back then aswell (regaurding power/specs arguements) you was simply too young to remember or care at the time (as was I.). The Systems are so much more complex now, you didn't have to worry about the companies finding new ways to take your money. Piracy and Used games kills the middle and lower markets ..... and the greedy big guns want more of their moneys worth.LegatoSkyheart

And yet, here we are talking about Specs and not looking back on the issue back when we were kids.

The Specs never mattered and never will. Those who say it does are blind to that. They'll give out whatever reason, but history says otherwise. 

and I suppose the Big Corporations are just trying to get rid of the middle man (used game industry)

Yeah sorry that's a bunch of shit. 16 BITS MOTHERFVCKER! WE HAVE BLAST PROCESSING ASSHOLE! WELL WE HAVE MORE POLYGONS DICK MONGREL! WELL WE HAVE BIGGER SPRITES ASS PIRATE! And so on. That shit always went on with specs. The used game thing is new and horrible I agree.locopatho

yet I don't remember seeing stuff like this during the Bit Era.

Since N64 got anniliated due to Carts

Since Saturn got destroyed due to complex programming design

Since GC was limited with small discs

Since Wii didn't get tons of 3rd Party due to weak hardware

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Yeah sorry that's a bunch of shit. 16 BITS MOTHERFVCKER! WE HAVE BLAST PROCESSING ASSHOLE! WELL WE HAVE MORE POLYGONS DICK MONGREL! WELL WE HAVE BIGGER SPRITES ASS PIRATE! And so on. That shit always went on with specs. The used game thing is new and horrible I agree.LegatoSkyheart

yet I don't remember seeing stuff like this during the Bit Era.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Yeah sorry that's a bunch of shit. 16 BITS MOTHERFVCKER! WE HAVE BLAST PROCESSING ASSHOLE! WELL WE HAVE MORE POLYGONS DICK MONGREL! WELL WE HAVE BIGGER SPRITES ASS PIRATE! And so on. That shit always went on with specs. The used game thing is new and horrible I agree.LegatoSkyheart

yet I don't remember seeing stuff like this during the Bit Era.

yet I don't remember seeing stuff like this during the Bit Era.

LegatoSkyheart

Sheep still can't differentiate between the concepts of hardware power and graphical fidelity, huh.

Totally different era, today's gamer is far more tech savvy and shit like that actually means something.OhJayDubya

and that's what I'm talking about!

Total Snobs!

Heck the 3DS is technically inferior to the PSVita, but guess which system is getting the most games?

Since N64 got anniliated due to Carts

Since Saturn got destroyed due to complex programming design

Since GC was limited with small discs

Since Wii didn't get tons of 3rd Party due to weak hardware

Blackbond

yet the N64 had some of the best games of it's generation, It didn't have all of the best games, but a lot of people remember N64 games than some PS1 titles.

Saturn had great Fighting Games if I remember correctly and actually had a strong presence in Japan. 

Gamecube's only problem was the Discs, but that didn't stop them from putting Resident Evil 4 on there.

Wii didn't get the High Profile 3rd Party due to weak hardware which is true. Didn't mean it didn't get any 3rd Party.

[QUOTE="OhJayDubya"]Totally different era, today's gamer is far more tech savvy and shit like that actually means something.LegatoSkyheart

and that's what I'm talking about!

Total Snobs!

Heck the 3DS is technically inferior to the PSVita, but guess which system is getting the most games?

Since N64 got anniliated due to Carts

Since Saturn got destroyed due to complex programming design

Since GC was limited with small discs

Since Wii didn't get tons of 3rd Party due to weak hardware

Blackbond

yet the N64 had some of the best games of it's generation, It didn't have all of the best games, but a lot of people remember N64 games than some PS1 titles.

Saturn had great Fighting Games if I remember correctly and actually had a strong presence in Japan. 

Gamecube's only problem was the Discs, but that didn't stop them from putting Resident Evil 4 on there.

Wii didn't get the High Profile 3rd Party due to weak hardware which is true. Didn't mean it didn't get any 3rd Party.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

yet I don't remember seeing stuff like this during the Bit Era.

locopatho

But now it feels like that's ALL everyone cares about.

Don't like WiiU because it's weak and can't play Call of Duty correctly hurr hurr.

Xbox 1 doesn't have GDDR5 Teraflops Maximum makes Call of Duty look crappy next to Battlefield.

OMG PS4 has Hair!

Yes let's forget that all three console will probably in one way or another bring dissapointment just like this gen.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

yet I don't remember seeing stuff like this during the Bit Era.

LegatoSkyheart

But now it feels like that's ALL everyone cares about.

Don't like WiiU because it's weak and can't play Call of Duty correctly hurr hurr.

Xbox 1 doesn't have GDDR5 Teraflops Maximum makes Call of Duty look crappy next to Battlefield.

OMG PS4 has Hair!

Yes let's forget that all three console will probably in one way or another bring dissapointment just like this gen.

 They all still lost miserablylocopatho

You're right, but that doesn't mean those systems didn't have amazing games either.

Sometimes the Failures have the Greatest Achievements.

TL;DR USED GAMES: Yes it's a problem, but it's something that just can't be stopped.LegatoSkyheart

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]TL;DR USED GAMES: Yes it's a problem, but it's something that just can't be stopped.AmazonTreeBoa

Maybe you're looking at it the wrong way.

Pirates, or those who download games from Torrent sites or whatever are going to do it, whether you like it or not.

Those DRM practices will only hurt the actual consumer in the end.

You're right we have the power to speak with our wallets if we don't like a certain practice of a certain company.

Like Capcom, I didn't buy Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom or Street Fighter X Tekken New, I didn't give Capcom my Money for those games, I didn't even bat an Eyelash for Resident Evil Operation Racoon or 6.

However I did buy Monster Hunter and Resident Evil Revelations New because that's what I want from Capcom not the trash they been spewing out.

But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about crappy DRM that goes through leaps and bounds to make sure YOU bought the game, making certain Accounts to different sites, entering a key code, only registering the game to one system, that crap.

That's going to hurt the Consumer in the end and not the Pirate because there's always a turn around. Obviously the best way to fight them is to not do anything and actually make the game worth the $60.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Erm, all of this happened back then aswell (regaurding power/specs arguements) you was simply too young to remember or care at the time (as was I.). The Systems are so much more complex now, you didn't have to worry about the companies finding new ways to take your money. Piracy and Used games kills the middle and lower markets ..... and the greedy big guns want more of their moneys worth.LegatoSkyheart

And yet, here we are talking about Specs and not looking back on the issue back when we were kids.

The Specs never mattered and never will. Those who say it does are blind to that. They'll give out whatever reason, but history says otherwise. 

and I suppose the Big Corporations are just trying to get rid of the middle man (used game industry)

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Yeah sorry that's a bunch of shit. 16 BITS MOTHERFVCKER! WE HAVE BLAST PROCESSING ASSHOLE! WELL WE HAVE MORE POLYGONS DICK MONGREL! WELL WE HAVE BIGGER SPRITES ASS PIRATE! And so on. That shit always went on with specs. The used game thing is new and horrible I agree.LegatoSkyheart

yet I don't remember seeing stuff like this during the Bit Era.

Seriously.

I remember the good ol' days when it didn't matter if the System was a Over Lord of Power pumping out visuals where you can see pimples on the faces of characters.

I remember what made a game console good was the Games it had, it's what made the Sega Genesis a good console, The Super Nintendo, The N64 despite being overly inferior to the PS1 has some of the most memorable games of all time, and of course the PS2 while technically inferior to the Xbox and Gamecube it was the Leading Game System of it's time. 

Suddenly when usered in with the Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii we are now worrying about What the Specs are What's the System's Graphics Card? How Much Ram will this system have? Which is better?

This was only a gradual thing during this era but NOW It's more apparent that it EVER was with the PS4, Xbox ONE and WiiU.

There are Gamers laughing at the WiiU because the Graphics "aren't up to snuff", Dissapointed with the Xbox ONE because it focuses too much on things not related to gaming, and Think the PS4 is the second coming of Christ because Sony showed off Killzone.

It's like all that Today's Gamers care about is if games are going to look like Real life or not, yet some of the best games out there have nothing to do with Graphics or Teraflops or whatever, Some of them are very techinically inferior.

TL;DR SPECS: Not every Game has to be the Next Crysis.

On Used Games, When did this ever become an Issue? Used Games are great! Someone bought a game new because they were curious about it. They played it didn't think it was anything special so they trade the game in. Someone comes in, sees the used game buys it, keeps it forever. So Simple. And that game may not even be in Print anymore so even if bought new the Developer wouldn't see any money from it.

Back in the Day that's how it was done, and in fact it's still being done in this fashion today for Older games. But now we got DRM policies coming from Microsoft on the Xbox One giving out these huge loops and bounds just so they can find out if you're not stealing a game or what not and of course Sony is probably going to do something simlar or at least other Developers will because come on, People Steal. You may not, but there's a lot of that type of stuff going around.

But the Best way to Deal with Priacy is to Not Deal with it at all.

TL;DR USED GAMES:Yes it's a problem, but it's something that just can't be stopped.

LegatoSkyheart

Because the next gens mean that the tech is up with the times of hardware out for gaming. Wii U is only tech on par with PS3/360 therefore it's not next gen.

[QUOTE="OhJayDubya"]Totally different era, today's gamer is far more tech savvy and shit like that actually means something.LegatoSkyheart

and that's what I'm talking about!

Total Snobs!

Heck the 3DS is technically inferior to the PSVita, but guess which system is getting the most games?

Since N64 got anniliated due to Carts

Since Saturn got destroyed due to complex programming design

Since GC was limited with small discs

Since Wii didn't get tons of 3rd Party due to weak hardware

Blackbond

yet the N64 had some of the best games of it's generation, It didn't have all of the best games, but a lot of people remember N64 games than some PS1 titles.

Saturn had great Fighting Games if I remember correctly and actually had a strong presence in Japan. 

Gamecube's only problem was the Discs, but that didn't stop them from putting Resident Evil 4 on there.

Wii didn't get the High Profile 3rd Party due to weak hardware which is true. Didn't mean it didn't get any 3rd Party.

And yet the new kid on the block Sony still destroyed them effortlessly.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Yeah sorry that's a bunch of shit. 16 BITS MOTHERFVCKER! WE HAVE BLAST PROCESSING ASSHOLE! WELL WE HAVE MORE POLYGONS DICK MONGREL! WELL WE HAVE BIGGER SPRITES ASS PIRATE! And so on. That shit always went on with specs. The used game thing is new and horrible I agree.LegatoSkyheart

yet I don't remember seeing stuff like this during the Bit Era.

"Blast Proccesing" was used back then because if they instead said "The Genesis has a faster CPU clocked @ 7.6 Mhz wile the SNES is clocked @ 3.5 Mhz" kids wouldn't know what the f*ck that means. Nowadays we have a much broader demographic. It's a natural evolution, so your gonna get a much more detailed spec war then what you had 21 years go.