When GTA was the biggest thing around, did it get COD style hate?

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#1 burgeg
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I didn't really go on internet gaming sites back in the GTA3 - San Andreas era. So I'm just wondering, did GTA get the kind of hate COD gets today? In the real world everyone had and loved GTA, but the same can be said of COD today. I'm just wondering how much of the COD hate is simply because of its popularity. For the record I don't personally like COD and I'm not making this thread to make some kind of a point for or against COD haters. I'm just curious about how much of the hate is based purely on its popularity. So, was there much internet hate for the GTA series when it was super popular?

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No, because GTA San Andreas was actually a good game.
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#3 finalfantasy94
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From my memory nope.

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I don't know how much hate their was for the GTA games before COD became popular, but let me tell you something. There are some people on this thread that don't hate COD because of it's popular, but because of reasons like Activision's inabilty to fix critcal issues that have been affecting the series for the past coupleof years for their massive fanbaseand their crazy fanbase.

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#5 burgeg
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No, because GTA San Andreas was actually a good game.meetroid8
That it was. An amazing game actually. My favourite game ever. Which is exactly why I ask the question. If GTA games got hated on then it pretty much confirms people just hate on everything that's popular simply because it's popular. If not, I guess it means a lot of people genuinely don't think it's very good.

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#6 CoolSkAGuy
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GTA gets some hate, but not nearly as COD does. For good reason too CoD sucks imo.
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#7 BedBugMan
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No, because the publisher didnt forget about their fanbase. They didnt milk the franchise, they didnt oversell the franchise, and they did right by their fans.
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No, because Rockstar actually makes amazing games.

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#9 GreenGoblin2099
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No, because GTA San Andreas was actually a good game.meetroid8

There was no need to go further than this post TBH.

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#10 vashkey
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Yeah, it did receive alot of criticism. Especially when GTA IV got all those 10s.
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#11 cainetao11
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GTA gets some hate, but not nearly as COD does. For good reason too CoD sucks imo.CoolSkAGuy
If GTA was a yearly release, it would have gotten it I believe. Madden and sports games in general get some hate, not very vocal here. I really believe it's the release window and the fact that it sells regardless.
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#12 burgeg
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Yeah, it did receive alot of criticism. Especially when GTA IV got all those 10s.vashkey
GTA IV deserved criticism though, unlike the previous games. I'm talking about the good GTA games.

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#13 lamprey263
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I didn't even notice the GTA IV hate until long after the game's release, COD Black Ops is the first one I've noticed getting a lot of hate right away, my guess is that people started hating Activision for expensive DLC, glitchy ports, the West/Zampella and ex-IW staff lawsuits, other Activision related stuff like them milking Guitar Hero to death, and so on. No I don't recall GTA getting much hate ever, just people really liking it, the only badmouthing of GTA IV I noticed was long after its release, maybe even after its DLC was released, back then people only mumbled and grumbled about Xbox 360 DLC time exclusivity, and the delayed PC port having issues, but that was about it as far as I could tell.
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[QUOTE="vashkey"]Yeah, it did receive alot of criticism. Especially when GTA IV got all those 10s.burgeg

GTA IV deserved criticism though, unlike the previous games. I'm talking about the good GTA games.

I am in the minority on GTA 4, as I loved it. The episodes are great too, imo. I dont remember that much hate for the 3-SA GTA's because as I said the releases were spread out. By the time people start to lay off COD, the next one is 6 months away.
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#15 vashkey
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[QUOTE="vashkey"]Yeah, it did receive alot of criticism. Especially when GTA IV got all those 10s.burgeg

GTA IV deserved criticism though, unlike the previous games. I'm talking about the good GTA games.

GTA IV was good and the older ones did receive plenty of criticism.
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Doubt it since Rockstar is awesome

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#17 vashkey
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[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]GTA gets some hate, but not nearly as COD does. For good reason too CoD sucks imo.cainetao11
If GTA was a yearly release, it would have gotten it I believe. Madden and sports games in general get some hate, not very vocal here. I really believe it's the release window and the fact that it sells regardless.

I don't think so. Super popular games naturally recieve plenty of criticism, Halo isn't a series that does yearly releases but it's been getting plenty of hate all it's life.
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#18 burgeg
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[QUOTE="burgeg"]

[QUOTE="vashkey"]Yeah, it did receive alot of criticism. Especially when GTA IV got all those 10s.vashkey

GTA IV deserved criticism though, unlike the previous games. I'm talking about the good GTA games.

GTA IV was good and the older ones did receive plenty of criticism.

Well I will admit I and many others do tend to exaggerate how bad GTA IV was. It was a good game. Good enough for me to complete it and buy the episodes for it. It was just a major disappointment. I guess I should have said I'm talking about the better/super amazing GTA games.

Anyway when you say criticism, are we talking COD style hate or just the occasional person criticising certain aspects of the game? I mean are you just talking about the kind of criticisms you see being mentioned in critic reviews of the games?

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[QUOTE="burgeg"]

[QUOTE="vashkey"]Yeah, it did receive alot of criticism. Especially when GTA IV got all those 10s.cainetao11

GTA IV deserved criticism though, unlike the previous games. I'm talking about the good GTA games.

I am in the minority on GTA 4, as I loved it. The episodes are great too, imo. I dont remember that much hate for the 3-SA GTA's because as I said the releases were spread out. By the time people start to lay off COD, the next one is 6 months away.

I'll admit I've hated on GTAIV... while I still loved it, I felt it abandoned the formula that made the previous games so amazing.
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No, because Rockstar actually makes amazing games.

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And it wasn't yearly, though Vice City was pretty quick, there was no reason to get sick of GTA.
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#21 Masculus
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I have yet to met a person that disliked San Andreas. It was probably one of the most fun games ever made. The only thing about it was that it's graphics were bad even for it's time, but nobody gives a **** when the games is so awesome.

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#22 BedBugMan
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I have yet to met a person that disliked San Andreas. It was probably one of the most fun games ever made. The only thing about it was that it's graphics were bad even for it's time, but nobody gives a **** when the games is so awesome.

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No way, the graphics werent bad for it's time. The game was HUGE and the game still had a decent draw distance and beautiful landscapes. My main gripe with SA was having to drive all the way across the map... it didnt have the taxi feature that made GTAIV a breeze to get around in. I'm dieing for GTA Trilogy HD remake. Man that would be so awesome.
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No because GTA was never an annual series and Rockstar actually tries to improve the formula each time

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#24 Dragerdeifrit
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GTA were actually good games with lots of things to do, and rockstar tries to innovate with each new entry on the series. CoD... well u get one every year with crap content, addictive but cheap multiplayer, all CoDs are almost the same just with few diferent weapons, ohh and they sell u just half of the game , then they sell u the other half via DLC, also.. activision says "innovation" is counterproductive. enough reasons for u?

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No, they didn't release every year, and a lot of work was clearly put into every game.
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#27 dercoo
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GTA 3, VC, and SA: No, because they were pretty fun and at the time innovative games (GTA3 made sandbox games big after all). You may not like the games, but could respect them.

GTA4: Got and still get allot of hate for several reasons

1. HYPE INFLATION!!!: 4 got 10's across the board, which made no sense. It not a bad game, but nobody would argue it deserves 10's. For most gamers it's around 8-9 (tops). GTA4 getting perfect scores quite frankly pissed off gamers, because games of equal quality were reviewed much harsher.

2. IT TOOK STUFF AWAY: SA is still one of the most content packed games of all time. 4 took allot of stuff out, shrunk the city, and went for a more realistic approach. Realism = cars handle like **** now.:evil:

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Nah, instead it got laws made to prevent M games being sold to minors.
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#29 glez13
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Like any game that gets hate they got it for the same reason. Fanboys were exaggerating about GTA games and proclaiming them as the epitome of gaming. Like always this created haters. Also many thought that GTA invented the sandbox genre, that also created haters. There were probably other reasons but these two are the ones I remember.

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#30 campzor
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no cause nothing was really rehashed.... and they were ALL awesome.
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COD isn't hated because its popular, its hated because its basically the same game released every year with almost no effort put into changing it up at all and yet it still suckers in the masses into buying it.
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#32 EddieTheHead84
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No, because the GTA series are some of the best games ever made unlike crappy COD.

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#33 James161324
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GTA is actually good, even though i didn't love the main story of iv.

Cod is the same bs since they first made it back on pc with cod1. Cod 1,2,4 were good. Then it all went down hill

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[QUOTE="BedBugMan"][QUOTE="Masculus"]

I have yet to met a person that disliked San Andreas. It was probably one of the most fun games ever made. The only thing about it was that it's graphics were bad even for it's time, but nobody gives a **** when the games is so awesome.

No way, the graphics werent bad for it's time. The game was HUGE and the game still had a decent draw distance and beautiful landscapes. My main gripe with SA was having to drive all the way across the map... it didnt have the taxi feature that made GTAIV a breeze to get around in. I'm dieing for GTA Trilogy HD remake. Man that would be so awesome.

I would castrate myself with a butter knife if they made a GTA HD remake.
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#35 eboyishere
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No, because GTA San Andreas was actually a good game.meetroid8

this.and the fact there wasnt a new one EVERY single year..

absence makes the heart grow fonder

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#36 vashkey
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[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="burgeg"]GTA IV deserved criticism though, unlike the previous games. I'm talking about the good GTA games.

burgeg

GTA IV was good and the older ones did receive plenty of criticism.

Well I will admit I and many others do tend to exaggerate how bad GTA IV was. It was a good game. Good enough for me to complete it and buy the episodes for it. It was just a major disappointment. I guess I should have said I'm talking about the better/super amazing GTA games.

Anyway when you say criticism, are we talking COD style hate or just the occasional person criticising certain aspects of the game? I mean are you just talking about the kind of criticisms you see being mentioned in critic reviews of the games?

CoD style hate. Not on the same level, but it still got a fair ammount.
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#37 tomarlyn
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It got hate for different reasons, but not as much.
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#38 Pug-Nasty
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GTA started getting hate this gen, because this gen the only GTA sucks. At least they only have one bad GTA game though, whereas the CoD series has more horrible games than good ones.

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#39 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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Rockstar actually referred to COD and said they wouldn't milk GTA because it'd get hated quickly.
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Now why would i rip on a local developer?

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[QUOTE="meetroid8"]No, because GTA San Andreas was actually a good game.burgeg

That it was. An amazing game actually. My favourite game ever. Which is exactly why I ask the question. If GTA games got hated on then it pretty much confirms people just hate on everything that's popular simply because it's popular. If not, I guess it means a lot of people genuinely don't think it's very good.

Mine too, still playing it a lot even today!

I don't hate CoD, Nor do I hate Sports games, but I definitely think it's ridiculous that both come out each year with minimal updates for a full $60 price tag. and with CoD $15 map packs. It's just too much. But I just let people enjoy their CoD every year, why not? if it's still fun and entertaining, and you don't mind the price then more power to those people! :D

I actually do like the game, but again, just too much for me to shell out full game price each year, for the same exact thing.

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#42 dakan45
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Gta iv ws close. The rest no.
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#43 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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Gta iv ws close. The rest no.dakan45
A majority of people loved GTA 4, COD on the other hand, even bro gamers are hating on it now.
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^because it's too much....activision is it's own worst enemy
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]Gta iv ws close. The rest no.ocstew
A majority of people loved GTA 4, COD on the other hand, even bro gamers are hating on it now.

Most gamers thought GTA4 was a downgrade from SA.

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#46 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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[QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="dakan45"]Gta iv ws close. The rest no.dercoo

A majority of people loved GTA 4, COD on the other hand, even bro gamers are hating on it now.

Most gamers thought GTA4 was a downgrade from SA.

I'm not sure about other people but, I played SA for hundreds of hours, modding the game and playing multiplayer and yet GTA 4 still seemed better.
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#47 SkaRy_RuLeZ
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GTA4 did get its fair share of hate, mostly for being crap, and still getting 10's from everywhere, but overall any 1 title of CoD surpasses it in hate because you don't get a GTA game every freakin year with a 5 hour campaign, and crappy MP that you still want to play because it's where the majority of the online FPS community is at.

Besides, GTA3-VC-SA were freakin awesome.

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#48 UnrealLegend
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[QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="dakan45"]Gta iv ws close. The rest no.dercoo

A majority of people loved GTA 4, COD on the other hand, even bro gamers are hating on it now.

Most gamers thought GTA4 was a downgrade from SA.

It's average user score is 9.2 out of 10, so plenty of people loved it still. I personally really liked the changes and the realistic approach, but I am hoping that the next GTA will be a bit more like SA (as far as craziness goes)

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I don't think so, because GTA evolved dramatically from game to game. CoD generally sticks to the same thing with each game. I enjoy CoD games regardless, but look at the jump in CoD games, it's not really that huge.

GTAIII to Vice City: Vice City set a HUGE tone and atmosphere that is one of the best in any game created imo

Vice City to San Andreas: San Andreas was HUGE with a ton to do, deep, amazing, really pushed the series forward.

San Andreas to GTAIV: While I don't think it deserved 10's, it was still a GREAT game, the city felt truly alive, with stuff to do all over, it was an amazing technical leap, and the episodes really gave it back that atmosphere of a GTA game, especially ballad of gay tony

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#50 dakan45
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[QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="dakan45"]Gta iv ws close. The rest no.dercoo

A majority of people loved GTA 4, COD on the other hand, even bro gamers are hating on it now.

Most gamers thought GTA4 was a downgrade from SA.

This. Also the "majority of people" love cod. I have no idea from where the haters come from since most of them either dont buy cod games with the usual recyclement excuse and also on 16 million, ofcourse there will be 5 if not more millions people who did not like the game...and again, most people did not even buy the cod games, yet they bash them. Still cod has a majority of people who liked the game. Dont trust sw forums for proper numbers.