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#1 Demetri_OS
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When is the Wiimote going to become the new standard for controlling FPS games?
When Metroid 3 was announced and how it would use the Wiimote, Sheep made it pretty clear that this new style would sweep the industry and set a new standard on how we control and play FPS games.Where do we stand on this?
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#2 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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You can quote me on this. The Big 3 will all be using a control scheme like the Wii's in their next gen systems. The Wii has made too much money for Sony and Microsoft to ignore this. Watch for them to jump on the bandwagon.
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#3 Meu2k7
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It was good, but it will be no standard. not this gen, possible if they perfect it even further.
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#4 leonhead
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I don't know...If i want precision i'll go with the mouse and keyboard
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#5 Demetri_OS
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You can quote me on this. The Big 3 will all be using a control scheme like the Wii's in their next gen systems. The Wii has made too much money for Sony and Microsoft to ignore this. Watch for them to jump on the bandwagon.GoldenElementXL

Ah - so, we have to "wait 'til,..."

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#6 Malta_1980
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i hope never, i mean its fun and everything but didnt find it comfortable using it... might also be i'm used to other controller designs..

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#7 IAmLegend7
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If the big 3 decide to make their controllers like the wiimote, it will be a sad day for gaming... It will also be the day I stop buying consoles.

I'm good with the normal controller, thank you very much.

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#8 Jenova_Flare
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Hopefully never. I can't play on a Wii longer than a half hour or so without my arms aching. I just cant imagine playing GTA etc on a Wiimote.
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#9 Bread_or_Decide
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I hope they don't.

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#10 Eponique
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I don't know about that, but Sony and Microsoft already got a motion-sensing controller out or in development. So there's your standard.

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#11 IAmLegend7
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MS and Sony are just going to try and make a gimmicky controller like the Wii just to ramp up their sales... they just won't magically turn away from the people who have been supporting them from day one.
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#12 Eponique
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MS and Sony are just going to try and make a gimmicky controller like the Wii just to ramp up their sales... they just won't magically turn away from the people who have been supporting them from day one.IAmLegend7

That's what they said when people said their controllers would have no motion-sensing at all to begin with.

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#13 RazMaTaz-1
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I hope they don't.

Bread_or_Decide

agreed

Its a nice idea, but i rather use my normal controllers.

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#14 falconzss
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You can quote me on this. The Big 3 will all be using a control scheme like the Wii's in their next gen systems. The Wii has made too much money for Sony and Microsoft to ignore this. Watch for them to jump on the bandwagon.GoldenElementXL

i hope that won't happen. i really enjoy playing with a standard controller even though playing with the wiimote can be fun as well.

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#15 themovi3nut
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whoever you are talking about is merely talking up the wii and the wiimote, just because he says doesn't mean it will become the standard. The keyboard and the mouse is the standard for FPS' I seriously hope the Wiimote thing will be dropped for FPS's, i find it far to clunky and incredibly unprecise.
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#16 Arjdagr8
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i hope to god they dont
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Guess what TC: we are not fortunetellers. Do you want us to just call out a random date or something? Or are you just throwing flamebait out there? i'm leaning towards the latter...

And also, your sig is not nearly as clever or funny as you think.

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#18 KungfuKitten
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Hm i guess the start of next gen, or maybe it will be introduced onto the pc or tv first and it will take one more gen.
I'm not touching a dual analogue anymore though. It's like wearing cuffs, old cuffs.
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#19 Weslii
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Well it raised the bar for FPS controlls. Microsoft likes to own that market so I think Microsoft at least will go for it too.
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#20 Silenthps
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hopefully soon. its better than Dual Analog and PC controls imo.
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#21 Always-Honest
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i would wait for E3 if i were you.
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#22 Ontain
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for the ppl that don't want any change in the user interface, do you use a mouse or just keyboard on the computer? because there was a time that the mouse was just seen as the new interface. the only thing i see that limits the wiimote right now is the lack of buttons for some games. this might be remedied by either using gestures or just having a nunchuck type attachment with more buttons. after all have you seen how many buttons a flight stick has?
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#23 samusarmada
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probably next-gen, when the technology has become even more advanced. the success of the wii has proven that motion controls do work and do sell, seeing as how nintendo is pretty much guaranteed to follow up the wiimote with even more advanced motion control it would be silly for ms or sony to ignore this.

It wont happen this gen though, peripheral controlers never sell enough to become standard. the only peripheral having any chance of actually being a viable alternative would be the balance board.

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#24 Just_Osmo
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The day all consoles use Wiimote style controlers is the day I stop buying consoles. I got sick of the motion controls after 6 months. I dont want a workout when i sit down to play a game everytime.
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#25 6matt6
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wii-mote in its current state is something i do not want to be standard.
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#26 Ontain
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The day all consoles use Wiimote style controlers is the day I stop buying consoles. I got sick of the motion controls after 6 months. I dont want a workout when i sit down to play a game everytime.Just_Osmo

moving the mouse around must be a work out too then huh?

realize that not all games require the same amount of shaking. SMG required a shake for doing it's spin attack but i don't think anyone would say they got a workout from it.

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#27 Brickz187
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Never again will i buy a console based on motion sensing. I have The wii and it barley even uses the wiimote properly. How can it be the standard when some of the biggest games that came out for it barley uses the motion at all? And the fact that the games also have an option for a gamcube controller? I mean really what is the standard here a gamcube controller or a wiimote? I will never support sony or microsoft on anything fi they ever ditch the controller and go wiimote style. Leave that crap for nintendo.
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#28 VladTheImpaler
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I would say when they work out all the bugs and it can work better than a controller, probably next-gen.
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#29 Thompsonwhore
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Hopefully never.

I'm quite content with the controller, thank you.

If Microsoft and Sony rip-off the Wiimote and ditch the controller design, I will retire console gaming entirely.

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#30 CajunShooter
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As far as FPSs go it is

K&M > Controller > Wiimote

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#31 Silenthps
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Never again will i buy a console based on motion sensing. I have The wii and it barley even uses the wiimote properly. How can it be the standard when some of the biggest games that came out for it barley uses the motion at all? And the fact that the games also have an option for a gamcube controller? I mean really what is the standard here a gamcube controller or a wiimote? I will never support sony or microsoft on anything fi they ever ditch the controller and go wiimote style. Leave that crap for nintendo. Brickz187
Did you even read the OP? He said for FPS' only.
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#32 buuzer0
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Hopefully the option to use both the current controller scheme or motion sensing will be around for a while. I don't want to be forced to use motion sensing in FPS games at this point. Give me an option to use either one.
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#33 bobbetybob
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As far as FPSs go it is

K&M > Controller > Wiimote

CajunShooter

You clearly never played MP3 or Medal of Honor Heroes 2, because their controls are much much better than any console FPS.

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#34 mixedplanet
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i hope it never does.
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#35 clone01
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i think there will always be room for both, actually.
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#36 Willy105
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It's fact that the Wiimote is great for FPS.

It's also fact that developers would rather make a FPS on another system because the genre sells better in those systems than on the Wii.

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#37 aroxx_ab
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If the big 3 decide to make their controllers like the wiimote, it will be a sad day for gaming... It will also be the day I stop buying consoles.

I'm good with the normal controller, thank you very much.

IAmLegend7

Feel exact the same, if they all come with a Wii-mote let it atleast just be a option to use "normal" controllers.

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#38 mjarantilla
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You can quote me on this. The Big 3 will all be using a control scheme like the Wii's in their next gen systems. The Wii has made too much money for Sony and Microsoft to ignore this. Watch for them to jump on the bandwagon.GoldenElementXL

They won't get it right. They'll just assume that they can just make the controls without making the games around the controls.

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#39 Puckhog04
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I guess for console players it could become the standard next generation. Not this one however. Us PC players still have the KB/Mouse though which outdoes everything in everyway for every genre.
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#40 waynehead895
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Oh God please no. No no no no no. Motion sensing standard would be horrible.
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#41 DaBrainz
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[QUOTE="IAmLegend7"]

If the big 3 decide to make their controllers like the wiimote, it will be a sad day for gaming... It will also be the day I stop buying consoles.

I'm good with the normal controller, thank you very much.

aroxx_ab

Feel exact the same, if they all come with a Wii-mote let it atleast just be a option to use "normal" controllers.

It's short sighted to call a controller with analog sticks "normal". N64 controllers didn't come around until the late 90's.

Controllers will always evolve, there is no reason why a controller can't have motion sensing/IR and all the buttons you use on your "normal"" controller. So what's the problem?

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#42 Narcadox
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When controllers like the WiiMote become standard is when I quit console gaming...My uncle has a Wii and no matter how many times I play it, it never gets any better.
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#43 mjarantilla
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Oh God please no. No no no no no. Motion sensing standard would be horrible.waynehead895

Motion sensing standard would be the best thing that happened to gaming since gaming went 3D. Just because the first generation screwed it up doesn't mean it's not the avenue of the future. What if people had said, "But 3D characters look so blocky!" with the PS1?

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#44 treyskillz
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I hope they it doesn't I mean I already rather use a gamecube or classic controller for games like Smash and Kart, and those are my current favs for wii.
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#45 foxhound_fox
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Hopefully never. Not every game benefits from either IR pointers or accelerometers and many Wii games prove this point. It is good and great for some but not for all thus, hopefully, defeating any possibility of it becoming "standard."
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#46 mjarantilla
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Hopefully never. Not every game benefits from either IR pointers or accelerometers and many Wii games prove this point. It is good and great for some but not for all thus, hopefully, defeating any possibility of it becoming "standard."foxhound_fox

A lot of games WOULD benefit from IR pointers, actually, even if it's for as minor a reason as a better way to manage inventory, like on the DS.

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#47 fishfake
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the most here never played MP3 or Medal of Honor 2, they dont know that it work good. they just think that sheep only hyping that kind of control course they have no other options but that's wrong. look at the reviews of those games, why should reviewers lie about the controls ? its really great for FPS and i really hopes it Go's more in that direction for future fps.
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#48 Cooldude224
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Never, hopefully.
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#49 Thompsonwhore
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[QUOTE="waynehead895"]Oh God please no. No no no no no. Motion sensing standard would be horrible.mjarantilla

Motion sensing standard would be the best thing that happened to gaming since gaming went 3D. Just because the first generation screwed it up doesn't mean it's not the avenue of the future. What if people had said, "But 3D characters look so blocky!" with the PS1?

Why would motion sensing be such a great thing were it to become a standard?

Sensing of complete body movement I could see the potential in, but as a handheld device, I'm just not seeing the reward.

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#50 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="waynehead895"]Oh God please no. No no no no no. Motion sensing standard would be horrible.Thompsonwhore

Motion sensing standard would be the best thing that happened to gaming since gaming went 3D. Just because the first generation screwed it up doesn't mean it's not the avenue of the future. What if people had said, "But 3D characters look so blocky!" with the PS1?

Why would motion sensing be such a great thing were it to become a standard?

Sensing of complete body movement I could see the potential in, but as a handheld device, I'm just not seeing the reward.

If haptic technology were better understood, the benefit might be more obvious, but complete body movement is sort of an overkill. In truth, there are only a couple of points on the human body that need to be referenced by a computer for near-total motion control: both hands, and the eyes (which are near-impossible to track for the purposes of direct control). There also needs to be a method of moving the on-screen character (the left analog stick). You don't really need torso tracking, and you CERTAINLY don't want leg tracking, and arm movement can be extrapolated from hand movement.

The Wii is not quite there yet. It does track both hands, but only to a very limited degree. The next generation of Wiimote should be far more accurate. It might even be that the Wii 2 will put the camera on the TV instead of in the Wiimote itself.