When vita bombs horribly will lack of marketing be blamed?

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#1 meatgrinderz
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I think that will be cows excuse but I dunno how true it is. Anytime im in the car i get those stupid "buy a box at taco bell to win a vita" ads...stupid annoying ads but they are marketing this pos you cant deny.

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Besides Taco bell haven't seen or heard of any form of marketing for it just saw commercial from a 3ds/vita threat and it was 8seconds long and sucked.

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#3 Tikeio
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Cows tried that with PS3 exclusives, then shut up when Flopsistance 3 bombed even though it was advertised like hell.

Lack of consumer interest doesn't = lack of marketing. But we'll see how cows react. :lol:

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You are going to have to define "bomb." Supposedly, the PSP "bombed" too and look at how many of those were sold.

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iPhone.

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#6 meatgrinderz
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Besides Taco bell haven't seen or heard of any form of marketing for it just saw commercial from a 3ds/vita threat and it was 8seconds long and sucked.

TwistedShade

Well sony has seemed to tie their whole marketing campaign to the box at taco bell. We will see how it works out for them. Lol

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#8 Nike_Air
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No.

$249+ , February release , and how things went for PSP the last few years will be the main culprits. It's probably better to go with a softer launch now , then pick it up when the first pricecut happens (combined with the holiday and bigger 3rd party names).

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#9 Eponique
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Well you can't deny that it's a huge factor. I actually think if they advertised they can decent launch sales like they did in Japan, but at this rate you can walk into a store Day 1 and not expect any lines.
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#10 ShadowMoses900
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Trolling isn't fun anymore on here, there's no effort involved to make it funny or entertaining.

And Vita will be fine, people were saying the same about the 3DS (I'm guilty as well, but I was joking) give it time and it will be ok.

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#11 meatgrinderz
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Well you can't deny that it's a huge factor. I actually think if they advertised they can decent launch sales like they did in Japan, but at this rate you can walk into a store Day 1 and not expect any lines.Eponique
exactly. I tthought maybe it was just around where i live but im starting to think theres really no hype for this in the usa or europe..the only hype i see is here on gamespot from hardcore sony loyalists like shadowmoses.

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#12 Gen007
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yeah i haven't seen a single thing about the vita anywhere besides on gaming sites and those are news stories not ads. Sony really is messing up because many people do not even know it exists. Me and a group of friends were talking and mentioned that it was coming out in a week and they had no clue what so ever. giant ad campaigns are mighty expensive though maybe that's why their holding back or maybe they are waiting for the launch to come even closer.

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#13 zeldisco2009
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Cows will certainly blame the marketing.But to be honest if you have a garbage product it is very difficult to market it.3DS is easy for Nintendo because of the 3D hype and Nintendos popular top quality first party games.

The real problem with Vita is that it simply not an attractive product,as it contains watered-down console games,which you can play on consoles which are cheaper and contain higher quality games.

Third party is also responsible as they left Sony towards Nintendo with games like Resident Evil Revelations,Monster Hunter 3 and 4,Kingdom Hearts,MGS etc are now more or less 3DS games.

No real innovation again by Sony and copying Nintendo with the touch screen wont pay off just like the PS Move didnt pay off to fight the Wii.

Cows also can blame themselves that they also prefer third party games over Sonys first party.They hype them on the internet but in real life no one buys them and you get flops like Resistance 3 and other games which struggle to sell 1-2 millions units like Littlebigplanet,Killzone,Mototstorm,Ratchet etc.

I am really looking forward to the damage control cows will present after the 2. and 3. week sales of the Vita in the west.

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If anythings to be blamed for me not buying the Vita it would have be the lack of compelling interesting titles. I couldn't care less about another Uncharted game. I've played the exact same thing 3 times already. Gravity Rush seems like the only care worthy game on it at the moment.. But I'm not buying a handheld console at that price for one single game.

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#15 zeldisco2009
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Trolling isn't fun anymore on here, there's no effort involved to make it funny or entertaining.

And Vita will be fine, people were saying the same about the 3DS (I'm guilty as well, but I was joking) give it time and it will be ok.

ShadowMoses900

no one is trolling here.You probably thought the PSP GO and the Dreamcast fill be fine and ok too if we gave them a little bit of time.Look where they are now as some of the biggest failures and disasters in gaming history.Better start saving money for the 3DS.

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#16 eboyishere
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Cows tried that with PS3 exclusives, then shut up when Flopsistance 3 bombed even though it was advertised like hell.

Lack of consumer interest doesn't = lack of marketing. But we'll see how cows react. :lol:

Tikeio

R3 didn't really get that much tho, compared to uncharted 3 which had about 2 months of NFL commercials, EPSN commercials and all of october with the subway beta deal. I only saw about 1 week of R3 commercials and that was at 11pm on comedy central :lol:

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#17 Ravensmash
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"When"? Why not "if"?
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#18 zeldisco2009
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"When"? Why not "if"?Ravensmash

Because it has bombed in Japan already and thus the"When" is a much more likelier outcome then the"if" outcome

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#19 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]"When"? Why not "if"?zeldisco2009

Because it has bombed in Japan already and thus the"When" is a much more likelier outcome then the"if" outcome

No it's not. It's way too early to decide on the outcome of an entire region, let alone worldwide...
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#20 LovePotionNo9
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Wha? Vita will be the Xbox 360 controller of handhelds. What you on man?
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#21 dontshackzmii
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its doing bad cus its way to expensive and no one wants to game on hand helds anymore other then core gamers.

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#22 killa4lyfe
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Yes. That and the price. The games are there for sure, but the appeal in terms of price and society-awareness is not.
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#23 zeldisco2009
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[QUOTE="zeldisco2009"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]"When"? Why not "if"?Ravensmash

Because it has bombed in Japan already and thus the"When" is a much more likelier outcome then the"if" outcome

No it's not. It's way too early to decide on the outcome of an entire region, let alone worldwide...

well you probably also think that it is too early to call the Dreamcast and the PSP GO a failure.Lets give Dreamcast and PSP Go also a little bit time so we can give them both the right judgement about their performance and outcome.

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#24 supa_badman
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Nah it'll definitely be because of how poor PSP did. I still wanna get it though, there's a lot of potential in the system, even if no one else sees it.

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#25 BrunoBRS
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it's already being blamed.
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#26 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="zeldisco2009"]

Because it has bombed in Japan already and thus the"When" is a much more likelier outcome then the"if" outcome

zeldisco2009

No it's not. It's way too early to decide on the outcome of an entire region, let alone worldwide...

well you probably also think that it is too early to call the Dreamcast and the PSP GO a failure.Lets give Dreamcast and PSP Go also a little bit time so we can give them both the right judgement about their performance and outcome.

The PSP GO and the Dreamcast had been out on the market for a lot longer, and worldwide before being acknowledged as a failure. Ridiculous comparison to make.
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#27 Goyoshi12
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inb4thelock

We all know it's inevitable. Most of the threads like this one are just locked every time.

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#28 almasdeathchild
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remember when GT5 flopped.....lets see how bad the vita does.cause i dont think many cows will stand for the vita they will let it die

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#29 percech
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I think the only reason why it's gonna bomb is because everyone is expecting it to bomb and are waiting for the inevitable price cut before they get it.
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#30 mems_1224
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nope, crappy games will be the reason
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#31 Blake135
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It's Two main issues, Bad Marketing, Lack Of Games. Sony"s marketing is the worst marketing I have ever seen coming from a big named company, seriously not only is it bad but there is a huge lack of it, who has honestly seen many Vita ads? Seriously I am buying a Vita and have to remind my friends constantly just WTF it is. It also has a lack of games, yes the lineup is amazing for a launch but it also was terrible for any Japanese gamer, idk what Sony was thinking but they provided games that don't speak to a Japanese gamer no wonder it's bombing over there. And they have no games that generate the mass hype like Nintendos Italian plumber, put him in space, in a kart, in a friggen swimming pool and no matter what people recognize Mario and go Ooo new Mario game I should buy that. Sony doesn't have any Icon or game that generate that level of response from a general consumer.
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#32 F1ame_Shie1d
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If anythings to be blamed for me not buying the Vita it would have be the lack of compelling interesting titles. I couldn't care less about another Uncharted game. I've played the exact same thing 3 times already. Gravity Rush seems like the only care worthy game on it at the moment.. But I'm not buying a handheld console at that price for one single game.

Crossel777

My thoughts exactly. I went through the launch lineup and most of the game lineup for the rest of the year and found nothing interesting enough to make me want to get one. FFX HD and a Kingdom Hearts game will get me to buy one but thats a little ways away.

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#33 PillyChickle
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Lack of marketing, and a gazillion other things to go with it. Vita has shown so far that it has all the ingredients for a disaster.

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#34 Blake135
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Lack of marketing, and a gazillion other things to go with it. Vita has shown so far that it has all the ingredients for a disaster.

PillyChickle
It's ingredients are top quality, it's the "maker" that's crap. It has all the features and hardware to become great, Just Sony is a clueless idiot.
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#35 todd2r
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Marketing is definitely one of the problems, the other being the price. Ask Nintendo about releasing a 250 dollar handheld. How did that work out for them? Exactly. Drop the price.
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#36 Silverbond
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then shut up when Flopsistance 3 bombed even though it was advertised like hell.Tikeio
False, bro.
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#37 Coolyfett
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I think that will be cows excuse but I dunno how true it is. Anytime im in the car i get those stupid "buy a box at taco bell to win a vita" ads...stupid annoying ads but they are marketing this pos you cant deny.

meatgrinderz

pos?? You say Vita is POS? Does any Nintendo gamer cosign this thought?

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#38 Another48hours
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I think that will be cows excuse but I dunno how true it is. Anytime im in the car i get those stupid "buy a box at taco bell to win a vita" ads...stupid annoying ads but they are marketing this pos you cant deny.

meatgrinderz
All they need is Crash Bandicoot for free bundled and mass marketed all over the box, it worked 3 times have no idea why Sony is being stupid now.
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#39 Another48hours
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[QUOTE="Blake135"]It's Two main issues, Bad Marketing, Lack Of Games. Sony"s marketing is the worst marketing I have ever seen coming from a big named company, seriously not only is it bad but there is a huge lack of it, who has honestly seen many Vita ads? Seriously I am buying a Vita and have to remind my friends constantly just WTF it is. It also has a lack of games, yes the lineup is amazing for a launch but it also was terrible for any Japanese gamer, idk what Sony was thinking but they provided games that don't speak to a Japanese gamer no wonder it's bombing over there. And they have no games that generate the mass hype like Nintendos Italian plumber, put him in space, in a kart, in a friggen swimming pool and no matter what people recognize Mario and go Ooo new Mario game I should buy that. Sony doesn't have any Icon or game that generate that level of response from a general consumer.

They have Crash b- why is everyone here and Sony so stupid? Saves 3 things they make and they think they can do it without. ugh.
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#40 SW__Troll
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Cows tried that with PS3 exclusives, then shut up when Flopsistance 3 bombed even though it was advertised like hell.

Lack of consumer interest doesn't = lack of marketing. But we'll see how cows react. :lol:

Tikeio

That could be spot on too.

Even if they threw $200 million to advertise the Vita I still doubt many would buy it simply because there's so much competition in the marketplace today, and Sony doesn't have the software to sell the Vita.

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[QUOTE="meatgrinderz"]

I think that will be cows excuse but I dunno how true it is. Anytime im in the car i get those stupid "buy a box at taco bell to win a vita" ads...stupid annoying ads but they are marketing this pos you cant deny.

Coolyfett

pos?? You say Vita is POS? Does any Nintendo gamer cosign this thought?

this Nintendo gamer does not cosign this. will be getting a vita when FF Type 0 comes out

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#42 PraetorianMan
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Cows tried that with PS3 exclusives, then shut up when Flopsistance 3 bombed even though it was advertised like hell.

Lack of consumer interest doesn't = lack of marketing. But we'll see how cows react. :lol:

Tikeio
LMAO! You seriously believe that Resistance 3 had competent marketing!?
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I think that will be cows excuse but I dunno how true it is. Anytime im in the car i get those stupid "buy a box at taco bell to win a vita" ads...stupid annoying ads but they are marketing this pos you cant deny.

meatgrinderz
Pos? Its a gaming handheld that technically puts most tablets to shame and does it for about half the price . Stop being a hater and go get a job then maybe you can afford one.
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Anyway, as for the OP. I think it will be blamed, and it deserves it.

Have you seen any commercials for the Vita that aren't Taco Bell? Go around and ask peole, does anyone know what a Vita is? I walked into a nearby GameCraze and asked about this, the public awareness for this thing is ROCK BOTTOM. This thing launches in what, a week? Seriously, the **** is Sony doing?

From what I can tell the Vita hardware itself is still excellent, regardless of Sony's retarded marketing team. I will still be getting one [still don't know if I'm going to be a launch buyer; college courses], but the closer and closer this thing gets, the more critical the situation looks.

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#45 SilverSterls
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[QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

Lack of marketing, and a gazillion other things to go with it. Vita has shown so far that it has all the ingredients for a disaster.

Blake135
It's ingredients are top quality, it's the "maker" that's crap. It has all the features and hardware to become great, Just Sony is a clueless idiot.

Yet overall they possess the most successful gaming brand of all time. Dont listen to the idiots on SW simply try the system yourself. Its going to have a slow start because of the price but in the long run I think it will succeed.
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#46 SilverSterls
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Anyway, as for the OP. I think it will be blamed, and it deserves it.

Have you seen any commercials for the Vita that aren't Taco Bell? Go around and ask peole, does anyone know what a Vita is? I walked into a nearby GameCraze and asked about this, the public awareness for this thing is ROCK BOTTOM. This thing launches in what, a week? Seriously, the **** is Sony doing?

From what I can tell the Vita hardware itself is still excellent, regardless of Sony's retarded marketing team. I will still be getting one [still don't know if I'm going to be a launch buyer; college courses], but the closer and closer this thing gets, the more critical the situation looks.

PraetorianMan
Why do people act like TV commercials are all that matters? The average person doesnt even pay attention to TV commercials. The best forms of advertising are on the internet and if you want to see some good adds check your PS3. There advertising it first to that 60 million + fanbase that owns a PS3 then from there you bring out the casual commercials to get a wider audience. You can say its gonna flop all you want but I doubt very seriously they have a hardtime selling out of the launch systems.
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#47 PraetorianMan
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[QUOTE="PraetorianMan"]

Anyway, as for the OP. I think it will be blamed, and it deserves it.

Have you seen any commercials for the Vita that aren't Taco Bell? Go around and ask peole, does anyone know what a Vita is? I walked into a nearby GameCraze and asked about this, the public awareness for this thing is ROCK BOTTOM. This thing launches in what, a week? Seriously, the **** is Sony doing?

From what I can tell the Vita hardware itself is still excellent, regardless of Sony's retarded marketing team. I will still be getting one [still don't know if I'm going to be a launch buyer; college courses], but the closer and closer this thing gets, the more critical the situation looks.

SilverSterls
Why do people act like TV commercials are all that matters? The average person doesnt even pay attention to TV commercials. The best forms of advertising are on the internet and if you want to see some good adds check your PS3. There advertising it first to that 60 million + fanbase that owns a PS3 then from there you bring out the casual commercials to get a wider audience. You can say its gonna flop all you want but I doubt very seriously they have a hardtime selling out of the launch systems.

The launch systems will probably sell easily enough, but I don't think Sony can keep the sales going for too long after that. In all likelyhood the sales will sink like the 3DS and, like Nintendo, Sony will be forced to cut the price [or at the very least make a game/memory card bundle]. The ads on PS3 are a clever idea but I seriously doubt its enough. Again, public awareness for this thing looks.... not good.
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[QUOTE="PraetorianMan"]

Anyway, as for the OP. I think it will be blamed, and it deserves it.

Have you seen any commercials for the Vita that aren't Taco Bell? Go around and ask peole, does anyone know what a Vita is? I walked into a nearby GameCraze and asked about this, the public awareness for this thing is ROCK BOTTOM. This thing launches in what, a week? Seriously, the **** is Sony doing?

From what I can tell the Vita hardware itself is still excellent, regardless of Sony's retarded marketing team. I will still be getting one [still don't know if I'm going to be a launch buyer; college courses], but the closer and closer this thing gets, the more critical the situation looks.

SilverSterls
Why do people act like TV commercials are all that matters? The average person doesnt even pay attention to TV commercials. The best forms of advertising are on the internet and if you want to see some good adds check your PS3. There advertising it first to that 60 million + fanbase that owns a PS3 then from there you bring out the casual commercials to get a wider audience. You can say its gonna flop all you want but I doubt very seriously they have a hardtime selling out of the launch systems.

That is so true. I didn't even know about psp tell I was at best buy and handed one to play and I ended up buying it.
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#49 SilverSterls
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[QUOTE="SilverSterls"][QUOTE="PraetorianMan"]

Anyway, as for the OP. I think it will be blamed, and it deserves it.

Have you seen any commercials for the Vita that aren't Taco Bell? Go around and ask peole, does anyone know what a Vita is? I walked into a nearby GameCraze and asked about this, the public awareness for this thing is ROCK BOTTOM. This thing launches in what, a week? Seriously, the **** is Sony doing?

From what I can tell the Vita hardware itself is still excellent, regardless of Sony's retarded marketing team. I will still be getting one [still don't know if I'm going to be a launch buyer; college courses], but the closer and closer this thing gets, the more critical the situation looks.

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Why do people act like TV commercials are all that matters? The average person doesnt even pay attention to TV commercials. The best forms of advertising are on the internet and if you want to see some good adds check your PS3. There advertising it first to that 60 million + fanbase that owns a PS3 then from there you bring out the casual commercials to get a wider audience. You can say its gonna flop all you want but I doubt very seriously they have a hardtime selling out of the launch systems.

The launch systems will probably sell easily enough, but I don't think Sony can keep the sales going for too long after that. In all likelyhood the sales will sink like the 3DS and, like Nintendo, Sony will be forced to cut the price [or at the very least make a game/memory card bundle]. The ads on PS3 are a clever idea but I seriously doubt its enough. Again, public awareness for this thing looks.... not good.

Yes it needs more marketing but in all honesty its not smart to do all your marketing at launch. Those units are going to sell anyways its two and three monthes later when you want to do the big marketing push. Hell look at the Sega Dreamcast it had a extremly successful launch and great hype and after the launch it went down the toilet and advertising went to 0. Word of mouth is the number 1 way a product sells and I think once people play it they will like it. I wouldnt be surprised if it gets a slow start but I do beleive it will be a successful system.
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#50 ebrezzy1
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Wii U bombs harder is my prediction